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At the moment Edinburgh are their own worst enemies. Dominating possession and territory but making too many mistakes and not clinical enough. Meanwhile Toulon are much more efficient.

As soon as Toulon get territory you feel they will score. Embra will need to cut the errors out and try score first second half, a bit of scoreboard pressure and Toulon may crack a bit


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What a try! :shock:

Embra 28-12 up in control


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Whoop, whoop.


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Bit of a teargassing before the game, but a great night nonetheless.


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Good performance. Really good to see some of the Scottish guys continue their good form.

Graham continues to impress. I can't see any reason he shouldn't start v Italy.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/46801295

Hardie signs on for two more years at Newcastle. Good stuff, unless they get relegated.


he opned up on his ban for drugs, even though a sample cleardd him. why did he get banned if the sample proved him innocent?


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That big Bill offload is the play of the season for me. Unbelievable skills.


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We were a bounce of the ball away from another amazing try too.


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That big Bill offload is the play of the season for me. Unbelievable skills.


Should not be shown pre watershed though.


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Fraser Dingwall looking good for Northampton.


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Steamin Beamin wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/46801295

Hardie signs on for two more years at Newcastle. Good stuff, unless they get relegated.


he opned up on his ban for drugs, even though a sample cleardd him. why did he get banned if the sample proved him innocent?


Coke only stays in your system for a few days. He was apparently dropped in it by a "concerned citizen", so maybe he admitted it but still had to take the test as part of the club/ union protocols and it was out of his system by then.


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HKCJ wrote:
That big Bill offload is the play of the season for me. Unbelievable skills.


This.


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HKCJ wrote:
That big Bill offload is the play of the season for me. Unbelievable skills.


Should not be shown pre watershed though.


No indeed. I’ve just watched it and it’s basically rugby porn.


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Almost forgot about the Edinburgh game as I was travelling to Australia. What a result but we must finish off Montpellier to get the seeding.


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Lovely offload also from Ritchie for Graham's try, great skills!


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dargotronV.1 wrote:
Lovely offload also from Ritchie for Graham's try, great skills!


Yeah, it was silky. Poor lad pulls that off in a big game, then up pops Mata to top it :D Two class tries though. Loved seeing Graham bump of their fullback so easily.


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Almost forgot about the Edinburgh game as I was travelling to Australia. What a result but we must finish off Montpellier to get the seeding.


Have a great time mate. If you can google the Mata offload it will make a great accompaniment to your beer


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Embra were top class and bossed Toulon in Toulon! All 15 players looked good and no weak links and played the game to beat Toulon - keep the ball, play the phases, keep it moving around the park and attack their big unfit forwards when they are in the defensive line. In the second half Embra could have scored any number of tries but for a few unlucky bounces, forward passes, etc.

Toulon were, or made to look, shit! They were disorganised, unfit and generally had no structure or gameplan. Even their pitch was a feckin disgrace. I have no idea how a team with that much resource can be so bad and so poorly prepared. Amateur in their prep and execution.

Interesting that the 'weakest' league of the three will likely have the most teams go into the play offs, even without the Welsh turning up. The English teams, apart from Sarries, have generally been awful and play awful rugby with some seriously poor teams. You really have to question what the feck they have done with all the overdrafts they have spent? Like Toulon they look unfit, unstructured and very limited in their game plans and skill sets. Some of the French teams have had a bit more about them and the likes of Racing and Toulouse playing a pretty expansive game but then you have the likes of Toulon and Lyon.

No doubt money will talk and we will see another restructuring of the Euro comps so that they drag us down to their level!


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Embra were top class and bossed Toulon in Toulon! All 15 players looked good and no weak links and played the game to beat Toulon - keep the ball, play the phases, keep it moving around the park and attack their big unfit forwards when they are in the defensive line. In the second half Embra could have scored any number of tries but for a few unlucky bounces, forward passes, etc.

Toulon were, or made to look, shit! They were disorganised, unfit and generally had no structure or gameplan. Even their pitch was a feckin disgrace. I have no idea how a team with that much resource can be so bad and so poorly prepared. Amateur in their prep and execution.

Interesting that the 'weakest' league of the three will likely have the most teams go into the play offs, even without the Welsh turning up. The English teams, apart from Sarries, have generally been awful and play awful rugby with some seriously poor teams. You really have to question what the feck they have done with all the overdrafts they have spent? Like Toulon they look unfit, unstructured and very limited in their game plans and skill sets. Some of the French teams have had a bit more about them and the likes of Racing and Toulouse playing a pretty expansive game but then you have the likes of Toulon and Lyon.

No doubt money will talk and we will see another restructuring of the Euro comps so that they drag us down to their level!


It is a mix of things:
1. English under achieving.
2. Pro 14 regularly see fully rotated teams, Not so much in England.
3. Imagine condensing the best players in England to 4 teams. They'd be far far stronger.

I don't think people see the teams in the pro 14 as weak. They see the league as poorer quality because the best players regularly miss games.


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Allan Dell to London Irish apparently.


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I know Toulon haven't been setting the cup on fire, but that's a great win for Edinburgh.


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A journalist from SA is saying Edinburgh have signed Michael Willemse, hooker from the Kings. I'm assuming he's Ford's replacement.


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Some very interesting selections coming up for Scotland. Wing, from being a problem position is suddenly one of the most contested. Hadn’t realised that Duncan Taylor has missed 4 of the last 5 6N through injury, what a contest that would be in the centre with him firing. Back row is interesting if badly lacking at 8, and a few combinations at 2nd row.

Having said that, I do fear for us this 6N


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Some very interesting selections coming up for Scotland. Wing, from being a problem position is suddenly one of the most contested. Hadn’t realised that Duncan Taylor has missed 4 of the last 5 6N through injury, what a contest that would be in the centre with him firing. Back row is interesting if badly lacking at 8, and a few combinations at 2nd row.

Having said that, I do fear for us this 6N


You are barred for games btw!


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Allan Dell to London Irish apparently.


Saw that. Is he second choice for Edinburgh these days?


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dpedin wrote:
Embra were top class and bossed Toulon in Toulon! All 15 players looked good and no weak links and played the game to beat Toulon - keep the ball, play the phases, keep it moving around the park and attack their big unfit forwards when they are in the defensive line. In the second half Embra could have scored any number of tries but for a few unlucky bounces, forward passes, etc.

Toulon were, or made to look, shit! They were disorganised, unfit and generally had no structure or gameplan. Even their pitch was a feckin disgrace. I have no idea how a team with that much resource can be so bad and so poorly prepared. Amateur in their prep and execution.

Interesting that the 'weakest' league of the three will likely have the most teams go into the play offs, even without the Welsh turning up. The English teams, apart from Sarries, have generally been awful and play awful rugby with some seriously poor teams. You really have to question what the feck they have done with all the overdrafts they have spent? Like Toulon they look unfit, unstructured and very limited in their game plans and skill sets. Some of the French teams have had a bit more about them and the likes of Racing and Toulouse playing a pretty expansive game but then you have the likes of Toulon and Lyon.

No doubt money will talk and we will see another restructuring of the Euro comps so that they drag us down to their level!


It is a mix of things:
1. English under achieving.
2. Pro 14 regularly see fully rotated teams, Not so much in England.
3. Imagine condensing the best players in England to 4 teams. They'd be far far stronger.

I don't think people see the teams in the pro 14 as weak. They see the league as poorer quality because the best players regularly miss games.


It is why the English teams underachieve that I asked the question! All the leagues rotate the players, there is no difference between the leagues, just depth of squad that is different. Re point 3 - imagine if Scotland had 10 x the population and 10x the players as per England does! I'm afraid thats another old argument that just doesn't hold water, we have only a fraction of the players and only a fraction of them make it to top level. We have pro rata the same number of good players as Ireland, Wales or England.

I think there is something about the way the game is played down south, the way they are coached (badly in most cases), an over reliance on a lot of SH hemisphere journeymen rather than home grown talent and an over confidence in their teams' abilities. It was best exemplified by all the hype pre match from the broadcasters, mostly English, about Danny Cipriani who was then given a lesson in 10 play by Carberry, the Munster 2nd choice 10. The difference in the two teams was marked and the quality of the coaching was there to see. I suspect that England is now too far down of the road of the french model where throwing money at the team seems to be the only response.


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Allan Dell to London Irish apparently.


Saw that. Is he second choice for Edinburgh these days?


Behind Schoemann, yes. We're a bit spoiled for choice at Loosehead as we also have Sutherland returning to form and Marfo in the mix. From a budgetary point of view it makes sense for one of them to go.

OK for Dell provided that Irish do actually go back up.


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Allan Dell to London Irish apparently.


Saw that. Is he second choice for Edinburgh these days?


Behind Schoemann, yes. We're a bit spoiled for choice at Loosehead as we also have Sutherland returning to form and Marfo in the mix. From a budgetary point of view it makes sense for one of them to go.

OK for Dell provided that Irish do actually go back up.


Cheers. Sounds like it may be a done deal and guessing he'll have the option built in of bailing and finding somewhere else at short notice if we don't go up.

How's he doing on the pitch post injury? Always worry a bit with props and back injuries.


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Struggling to keep to my new year resolution of not blaming/moaning about refs....


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Struggling to keep to my new year resolution of not blaming/moaning about refs....


Ok i’ll Bite how many penalties on the line do Cardiff need to concede before yellow card? At least half a dozen in first half and 3 already in 2nd half?


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What am I missing with the ERC permutations. Everyone saying both Edinburgh and Glasgow require a a losing bonus point, however with Exeter only able to get 18 with an unlikely 5 pointer in Limerick, leaving Muster on 17 possibly 18, surely both are already guaranteed with 19


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What am I missing with the ERC permutations. Everyone saying both Edinburgh and Glasgow require a a losing bonus point, however with Exeter only able to get 18 with an unlikely 5 pointer in Limerick, leaving Muster on 17 possibly 18, surely both are already guaranteed with 19

OJ reporting via TOTM that Embra winning on Friday night qualifies Glasgow too. Which probably means they lose.

If Embra lose then they will qualify still if they get a LBP. If they do this, then Glasgow will need to match or better the Ulster result v Leicester to progress, I think?


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What am I missing with the ERC permutations. Everyone saying both Edinburgh and Glasgow require a a losing bonus point, however with Exeter only able to get 18 with an unlikely 5 pointer in Limerick, leaving Muster on 17 possibly 18, surely both are already guaranteed with 19


Only three second place teams go through,
Toulouse and Ulster are playing teams out the comp already, so likely to take points.

Edinburgh Glasgow and Exeter fighting out for third spot unless Edinburgh top group and in doing so they will ensure Montpellier have under 19 points, sorting the weegies as well.

I say should ringer george Horne and Hogg for the bench if it wasn’t for those pesky registration rules!


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Maitland limped off for Sarries after 20 mins today :uhoh:


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Maitland limped off for Sarries after 20 mins today :uhoh:


You have far FAR better than him these days.

Who was the winger playing for embra that bumped a player to get over in the right corner?

He has MOVEZZZZ!


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What am I missing with the ERC permutations. Everyone saying both Edinburgh and Glasgow require a a losing bonus point, however with Exeter only able to get 18 with an unlikely 5 pointer in Limerick, leaving Muster on 17 possibly 18, surely both are already guaranteed with 19


Only three second place teams go through,
Toulouse and Ulster are playing teams out the comp already, so likely to take points.

Edinburgh Glasgow and Exeter fighting out for third spot unless Edinburgh top group and in doing so they will ensure Montpellier have under 19 points, sorting the weegies as well.

I say should ringer george Horne and Hogg for the bench if it wasn’t for those pesky registration rules!


Sorry mate. Being dozy as f#ck!!


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dargotronV.1 wrote:
Maitland limped off for Sarries after 20 mins today :uhoh:


You have far FAR better than him these days.

Who was the winger playing for embra that bumped a player to get over in the right corner?

He has MOVEZZZZ!

Darcy Graham. He's got to start v Italy.


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Could Edinburgh or Glasgow knock the other out of the CC knockouts?


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If the other doesn't get a lbp I think so aye.


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dargotronV.1 wrote:
Maitland limped off for Sarries after 20 mins today :uhoh:


You have far FAR better than him these days.

Who was the winger playing for embra that bumped a player to get over in the right corner?

He has MOVEZZZZ!

Graham is in the mix yes, very impressive though he is inexperienced at international level. You underestimate Maitland though, he's been very good for Scotland, one of our most consistent performers in the last 12 months. Kinghorn and Seymour also in the mix. With all fit I would bet on Maitland and Seymour with Kinghorn on the bench.


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