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Back and better than ever before in 2012.

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interview with Dan Lyle on all things USA Sevens:

http://traffic.libsyn.com/rmamerica/Rug ... _Vegas.mp3

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RuggaMatrix America Show 78: All Eyes to Vegas

How are ticket sales going? Why did the USA 7s move from San Diego to Las Vegas? Are they staying in Las Vegas? How have they improved the event, and the player amenities?

What lessons can USA Rugby learn from the USA 7s event? What can fans learn about the evolution of TV coverage and building a big-time rugby event in the USA?

USA 7s LLC Executive VP and Tournament Director Dan Lyle talks about all of this with Alex, Bruce and Pat.

And more ... as Lyle also chimes in on the USA MNT Coach search.


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Do we really need "#2" in the thread title since it is the only one on the new bored?

On the topic, I thought that interview with Dan Lyle was excellent. He really is becoming a great professional in the sports business.


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So, any word on Ticket sales.

Heard Caitlin Koch will be singing at the USA 7s..

I love her.


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kovana wrote:
So, any word on Ticket sales.


double the number of tickets sold and ticket revenue of this point in time last year per the podcast

some recent results:

BYU 76, Central Washington 7 (Thursday)
BYU 48, Washington 5 (Friday)
BYU 19, Old Puget Sound Beach 15 (Saturday)

St. Mary's 41, Utah 10 (Friday)
San Francisco Golden Gate 58, Utah 19 (Saturday)
St. Marys' 36, Chico State 22 (Saturday)

UCLA 39, Cal Poly 24

Cal 109, Stanford 0
Cal 48, Sacramento State 3 (both games Saturday, I imagine Cal's first string played Stanford and the second string played Sac. St.)

in Division I-AA, Claremont dropped down this year and proceeded to lose to San Diego 50-17


I know they were travelling but the size of the loss Utah had to St. Mary's surprises me. On the other hand you look at BYU and they're able to defeat an RSL side on the road.


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Flyin Ryan wrote:
kovana wrote:
So, any word on Ticket sales.


double the number of tickets sold and ticket revenue of this point in time last year per the podcast

some recent results:

BYU 76, Central Washington 7 (Thursday)
BYU 48, Washington 5 (Friday)
BYU 19, Old Puget Sound Beach 15 (Saturday)

St. Mary's 41, Utah 10 (Friday)
San Francisco Golden Gate 58, Utah 19 (Saturday)
St. Marys' 36, Chico State 22 (Saturday)

UCLA 39, Cal Poly 24

Cal 109, Stanford 0
Cal 48, Sacramento State 3 (both games Saturday, I imagine Cal's first string played Stanford and the second string played Sac. St.)

in Division I-AA, Claremont dropped down this year and proceeded to lose to San Diego 50-17


I know they were travelling but the size of the loss Utah had to St. Mary's surprises me. On the other hand you look at BYU and they're able to defeat an RSL side on the road.


That is some great news. The event has continually grown year on year. There will surely be a full stadium on Day 2.

Also, like it was dont last year. Will the Cup finals be player BEFORE the Bowl and Plate?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:54 pm 
Any word on the eagles June test schedule yet? Other than the test against Canada.


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Also, like it was dont last year. Will the Cup finals be player BEFORE the Bowl and Plate?


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CanNZ: Any word on the eagles June test schedule yet? Other than the test against Canada.


as far as definite dates and stadiums? no

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The USA Men’s National Team Head Coaching job seems to be down to a short list of …
(In alphabetical order)

Les Cusworth
Dave Hodges
Paul Keeler
Mike Tolkin

All four are apparently going to meet with the USA Rugby Board in Las Vegas during the USA 7s February 10-12, and will give a presentation on how they will tackle the job.

Les Cusworth, 57, is a former England flyhalf who played for Leicester back when they had letters instead of numbers on their jerseys. Cusworth coached at Leicester and also with the Argentina national team, where he was also Director of Rugby. If he were to be hired, he is expected to at least consult with former Argentina Head Coach Marcelo Loffreda.

Dave Hodges, 43, was a rugby and football All American at Occidental College and played 54 times for the USA, 27 as captain. During his professional career at Llanelli he also served as the team’s strength and conditioning coach, and was Head Coach of the Collegiate All Americans and the Denver Barbarians. He has been an assistant with the USA Men’s National Team since 2009 in charge of the forwards and performance analysis.

Paul Keeler, 40, is the Director of Rugby at San Francisco Golden Gate, where he led the club to appearances in the last three Super League finals, winning two. Before that he was Head Coach of Old Blue in New York City. His elite-level coaching includes several union all-star teams at the senior and collegiate level. He also coached the USA Selects in the first incarnation of the Americas Rugby Championship.

Mike Tolkin, 44, is the Head Coach of Xavier High School, where he also teaches, Head Coach of the New York Athletic Club men’s team, and assistant coach for the USA MNT, in charge of defense. In 2010 Tolkin coached Xavier and NYAC to national titles. He was also a national champion for Xavier as a student.


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Hodges should be a lay up don't you think ?

Did we ever learn why Bell was fired ?


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Hodges or Tolkin please.


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goeagles wrote:
Hodges or Tolkin please.


Tolkin


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Tend to agree. Hodges could be on the staff and groomed to be his successor though.


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NBC Sports (FKA Versus) showing the Wellington 7s on Sunday. Indicative of their plans for rugby you'd hope.


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NBC Sports (FKA Versus) showing the Wellington 7s on Sunday. Indicative of their plans for rugby you'd hope.


Woo-Hoo! :thumbup: Starting at 10pm. I hope Super Bowl does not go into overtime.


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Huesos wrote:
NBC Sports (FKA Versus) showing the Wellington 7s on Sunday. Indicative of their plans for rugby you'd hope.


They didnt do that for last year ey? Only the LV 7s.

Thats some great news for the game in USA IMO.


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NBC Sports (FKA Versus) showing the Wellington 7s on Sunday. Indicative of their plans for rugby you'd hope.


Woo-Hoo! :thumbup: Starting at 10pm. I hope Super Bowl does not go into overtime.


The Super Bowl will overlap that without OT. Kickoff is 6:30 Eastern and between the extra long halftime show and the pass-happy offenses, this game will go more than 3.5 hours.


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goeagles wrote:
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NBC Sports (FKA Versus) showing the Wellington 7s on Sunday. Indicative of their plans for rugby you'd hope.


Woo-Hoo! :thumbup: Starting at 10pm. I hope Super Bowl does not go into overtime.


The Super Bowl will overlap that without OT. Kickoff is 6:30 Eastern and between the extra long halftime show and the pass-happy offenses, this game will go more than 3.5 hours.


let's be honest, it's not like a lot of people are going to check their watch stressing so when the Super Bowl is over they flip to tape-delayed Wellington 7s highlights on NBC Sports :lol:

if you are one, use your DVR


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Screw the Super Bowl, bring on 7s


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Screw the Super Bowl, bring on 7s


sure, one will have 60+% of the country watching it and the other will be happy to get 100k :D , I'm just saying basing one audience off the other event ending is a little off kilter when you consider the difference in scale


For the folks that are going to setup a professional rugby league here at some point, for lessons on what not to do I hope they're following the bullsh*t going on with Women's Professional Soccer (WPS).

1. Be intelligent when choosing your business partners. Don't allow in some random asshole just because he shows you a pile of money.
2. Plan ahead. Uncertainty kills. Setup contingencies.
3. Have a business plan that makes sense.


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Talked to my cousin in Vegas and he says there is definitely more of a buzz around the event this year amongst locals. He said it can take a couple years for that to happen because there is always so much going on in Vegas. Good to hear and good for the event's future.


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Flyin Ryan wrote:

For the folks that are going to setup a professional rugby league here at some point, for lessons on what not to do I hope they're following the bullsh*t going on with Women's Professional Soccer (WPS).

1. Be intelligent when choosing your business partners. Don't allow in some random asshole just because he shows you a pile of money.
2. Plan ahead. Uncertainty kills. Setup contingencies.
3. Have a business plan that makes sense.


4. No James Paterson.


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Flyin Ryan wrote:

let's be honest, it's not like a lot of people are going to check their watch stressing so when the Super Bowl is over they flip to tape-delayed Wellington 7s highlights on NBC Sports :lol:


Good point. I forgot it will be tape-delayed. :lol:


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Lavalla was back in Ireland for a couple of nights at the start of the week. He signed a new contract with Stade a few weeks ago for a couple of years (I think).


Good news.


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Good stuff Nolan. Seems like he made a bit of an impression in his time in Ireland (on and off the field?).


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http://www.rugbymag.com/index.php?optio ... Itemid=260

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Smith Testing NFL Waters

A report from the National Football Post has Saracens and Eagle lock Hayden Smith pursuing an NFL contract.The report says Smith has already worked out for the New York Jets and was scheduled to work out for the New Orleans Saints Thursday.

The report says teams are unsure at what position Smith might best fit, mentioning tight end, defensive end and linebacker as possibilities.

“To play in the NFL would undoubtedly be the pinnacle of my career," Smith told NFP. "I will do whatever it takes to make my dream a reality."

"We expect to have a very surgical tour of workouts in February and March of this this year," Smith's NFL agent, Jack Bechta, said. "We have targeted interested NFL clubs who will be committed to developing Hayden’s physical skills. Hayden is pursuing his dream of playing in the NFL with the full support of the Saracens management. Club CEO Edward Griffiths is a progressive leader who has been behind Hayden's NFL endeavors."

The report says Smith will finish the season with the Sarries but may travel back to the U.S. for some additional workouts in the near future. Bechta also represents fellow Australian Pro Bowl punter, Matt McBriar.

“Although Hayden most likely will be a candidate for the development roster in his first year, I sincerely believe he can contribute this season on special teams because of his athletic ability and polished tackling skills," Bechta told NFP. "With some good coaching, I believe he can be a starter caliber player during the 2013 season.”

Smith is not the first "crossover" athlete to get a tryout in the NFL. USA goalkeeper Tony Meola tried his hand at place kicking, George Mason basketball big man Jai Lewis tried out for NFL teams after a run to the Final Four, and WWE-turned-MMA star Brock Lesnar spent a training camp with the Minnesota Vikings.

In case you were wondering, The 2010/2011 Aviva Premiership salary cap hovered at around $5.5 million, while the 2011 NFL salary cap was $120 million.


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I see rugbymag scrapped their comments. More demand than ever for an American rugby forum methinks.


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I see rugbymag scrapped their comments. More demand than ever for an American rugby forum methinks.


Agree. I'll create one, charge $5/month. 8)


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I'll create one and charge $4.


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I'll create one and charge $4.


Launching in a few minutes... $3.99. :x


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Huesos wrote:
I'll create one and charge $4.


Launching in a few minutes... $3.99. :x


or you could join together and charge $10 :lol:

had a thought in the past that a good idea for a board would be to get together with the Canucks and Argies, have a Pan-Am focused board to cover the two main languages in the hemisphere, English and Spanish; at least for U.S. domestic stuff there's nowhere to discuss the game beyond Goff's site and the axe-grinding asshole's site


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Flyin Ryan wrote:
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Huesos wrote:
I'll create one and charge $4.


Launching in a few minutes... $3.99. :x


or you could join together and charge $10 :lol:

thought a good idea for a board would be to get together with the Canucks and Argies, have a Pan-Am focused board to cover the two main languages in the hemisphere, English and Spanish


I don't speak Spanish so no.


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Flyin Ryan wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Huesos wrote:
I'll create one and charge $4.


Launching in a few minutes... $3.99. :x


or you could join together and charge $10 :lol:

thought a good idea for a board would be to get together with the Canucks and Argies, have a Pan-Am focused board to cover the two main languages in the hemisphere, English and Spanish


I don't speak Spanish so no.


that's what the Argies would be for

could serve as an expansionary mechanism for Spanish-speaking rugby supporters (all of South America except Brazil and the 3 Caribbean sea states, Central America, Mexico, people in the U.S. more comfortable with Spanish)


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*taking notes*


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*taking notes*


I charge $40/hour consulting fees and then I can give you some more half-baked ideas. :P


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*taking notes*


Stop trying to cater to the minority to win votes. :x


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good luck with the forum idea. It will take a lot of time and effort to get people to use it.


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Interesting article from RugbyMag reposted in Gainline comments. Goff's thoughts on the Pac-12 rugby possibilities.
My own concern is that they overestimate the willingness of Pac-12 TV network to broadcast rugby.
The Big-10 Network has existed for a few years now, and even though they show all kinds of shit sports like field hockey and other filler programming, they do not seem to be interested in showing Big 10 rugby.

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Does anyone really doubt that if University of California Head Coach Jack Clark wants to make something happen – I mean really wants to make something happen – it won’t happen?

Say what you want about the hugely successful and often polarizing coach, he’s tenacious. So I have watched with interest his talk about Pac-12 rugby.

Clark has brought up the Pac-12 several times in the past few months, before and after Cal pulled out of D1-A, and before and after Cal was not admitted on late notice into the NorCal D1-AA. He’s pointed out that the Pac-12 has a network and needs content, and that the network doesn’t have football, because those rights were sold separately.

He has pointed out in an intriguing RuggaMatrix America podcast that Pac-12 competitions don’t have to include all 12 teams (interestingly, the Pac-12 soccer conference has six teams, and one of them is San Diego State).

Now comes Cal’s press release on their tour of Arizona to play the Arizona Wildcats on Friday and Arizona State on Sunday. It’s not the game previews that caught my eye, but the repeated reference to the Pac-12.

This from the release:

Arizona is a postseason contender whose head coach, Dave Sitton, has expressed his program's "strong commitment to playing Pac-12 games."

Asked whether Arizona supports the development of a traditional conference-based rugby structure, coach Sitton said, "We've been attempting to build our future schedules to make Pac-12 games a priority. We'd love to host a Pac-12 conference tournament every year and we're kicking it off with this visit by the Bears."

Arizona State head coach Gary Lane echoed Sitton's hope for a Pac-12-based build-out in college rugby.

"I'm a very big supporter of it," coach Lane said. "We already play Arizona, Colorado and Utah. It would make sense to align ourselves, like our football program, with the Pac-12. We'd support that strongly."

Obviously Cal is pushing for the competition, and it’s not been hard to find supoporters. We’ve talked to a few colleges, too, and found interest. Adminstrations and students would embrace a Pac-12 rugby league, and really the only major hurdle is money.

Now not everyone … the Pac-12 teams in the Northwest aren’t quite as energetic (or flush) as those in the south, but that, as we’ve heard, is OK. Colorado and Utah? Yeah, they might be in. Why not invite BYU into the Pac-12 for rugby? (If San Diego State can play Pac-12 in soccer …).

Conference rugby is not new. The Big 10 holds a tournament, as did the SEC. The Atlantic Coast Conference is unofficially mirrored by the ACRL. The Ivy League plays as such and plays a full league schedule.

The Pac-12, if it gets the type of TV coverage some think it can, and with the prestige of the conference as an athletic entity, could be a game-changer.

Imagine a conference that starts out with Cal, Stanford, Arizona, Arizona State, UCLA, and Utah. Then as momentum grows, Oregon State and Colorado get in on the action. That’s a pretty great rugby conference, and a compelling competition for fans of college sports.

But the point is not for me to sell you on the idea, or sell anyone on the idea. The point is, somebody is already selling the idea, Cal's Jack Clark, and he's not going to let it go.

When you have an idea like that, you often need someone to right herd with a singularity of purpose. So watch ... this will happen.


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^ Going to be hard to sell games when Cal's winning games against Stanford by a scoreline of 109-0, Arizona State 59-7 with a B+ lineup, and Arizona 82-0. Part of broadcasting a sport is you want there to be a contest. You only want to broadcast games that have a crowd, which means games at Utah and Cal, and they want them to at least be competitive contests which means...?

Watching the Wellington 7s show on Universal. The one U.S. game they showed was the loss to Scotland. Durutalo made a few mistakes in the game and I thought the best players were the Suniula brothers.

FYI, Hosea Gear's da man. 8)

USA Sevens' broadcasting schedule (all times eastern), I think this is all looking it up:

Saturday:

3:30pm-6pm - NBC
7pm-9pm - NBC Sports

Sunday:

12:30pm-2:30pm - Universal
2:30pm-4:30pm - NBC Sports
4:30pm-6pm - NBC


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CU just added women's lacrosse because the Pac 12 has asked them to add sports for content for the P12 network. It is the first but won't be the last. I'm going to be writing a letter to CU Athletic Director Mike Bohn suggesting men's and women's rugby as the next sports added. The amount of money coming in plus the network is a real game changer for fringe sports like rugby IMO and we need to be as proactive as possible no matter how much of a long shot it seems. If you have any suggestions for points to include in the letter, please suggest them before I send it off. Here some general ideas I have:

When looking at sports to add in the future, CU should be looking at sports for the following reasons:

-Title IX balance. Cannot be a sport that is only men's.

-Makes use of existing facilities. Sports that need large financial investments to build facilities for them are not prudent to add at this time.

-Is an Olympic sport. Olympic sports produce Olympians which get CU wonderful free publicity during the Olympics.

-Ability to compete at a high level quickly.

-The sport is growing. It is better to add sports that are growing than those that are in decline. The latest Sporting Goods Manufacturers Association report on sports participation in America is an excellent source for this.

There is only one sport as far as I can tell that checks all of these boxes and that is rugby. Rugby can use existing facilities in place for lacrosse and soccer and requires little investment in the way of equipment or facilities. According to the latest SGMA study, rugby now has 1.1 million participants in America and is the fastest growing sport in the country with 50% growth since just 2009. With the sport growing at such a rate, you can be sure other colleges will be looking to sponsor rugby and we have the opportunity to get in early and cement ourselves as a rugby power. The only current Pac 12 school that sponsors rugby is Cal. In doing so, 8 of the 30 man roster for the USA Rugby team in last year's Rugby World Cup (the 3rd largest sporting event in the world) were Cal alumni or current players and you can be sure a similar percentage of USA rugby players in the 2016 Olympics will be Cal alumni. With minimal investment, CU can also have many players on the US National Team, giving the CU brand excellent free publicity.


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CU just added women's lacrosse because the Pac 12 has asked them to add sports for content for the P12 network. It is the first but won't be the last. I'm going to be writing a letter to CU Athletic Director Mike Bohn suggesting men's and women's rugby as the next sports added. The amount of money coming in plus the network is a real game changer for fringe sports like rugby IMO and we need to be as proactive as possible no matter how much of a long shot it seems. If you have any suggestions for points to include in the letter, please suggest them before I send it off. Here some general ideas I have:

When looking at sports to add in the future, CU should be looking at sports for the following reasons:

-Title IX balance. Cannot be a sport that is only men's.

-Makes use of existing facilities. Sports that need large financial investments to build facilities for them are not prudent to add at this time.

-Is an Olympic sport. Olympic sports produce Olympians which get CU wonderful free publicity during the Olympics.

-Ability to compete at a high level quickly.

-The sport is growing. It is better to add sports that are growing than those that are in decline. The latest Sporting Goods Manufacturers Association report on sports participation in America is an excellent source for this.

There is only one sport as far as I can tell that checks all of these boxes and that is rugby. Rugby can use existing facilities in place for lacrosse and soccer and requires little investment in the way of equipment or facilities. According to the latest SGMA study, rugby now has 1.1 million participants in America and is the fastest growing sport in the country with 50% growth since just 2009. With the sport growing at such a rate, you can be sure other colleges will be looking to sponsor rugby and we have the opportunity to get in early and cement ourselves as a rugby power. The only current Pac 12 school that sponsors rugby is Cal. In doing so, 8 of the 30 man roster for the USA Rugby team in last year's Rugby World Cup (the 3rd largest sporting event in the world) were Cal alumni or current players and you can be sure a similar percentage of USA rugby players in the 2016 Olympics will be Cal alumni. With minimal investment, CU can also have many players on the US National Team, giving the CU brand excellent free publicity.


The Pac-12 Rugby programs should be looking to put forth a unified effort to get the game onto the network. As you say it could be a huge game changer particularly for teams within Pac-12. With exposure comes the prospect of increased funding, which could assist the other to not only quickly close the gap between Cal and the rest but to start really competing for talent.


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