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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:32 am 
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I'd put Malazan well above Wheel of Time, but it does somewhat suffer from some of the same issues. The last few books were a bit of a slog - way too many PoV characters, and often not ones you really gave a shit about. And in a series that size, with the sheer number of characters involved, having the same characters use multiple different names through the series is not really helpful.

It's well written, has some excellent world and character building, but I'm not really a fan of fantasy series where you have to take cliff notes/keep referring back to Google.


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Just started "Promise me You'll Shoot Yourself : The Downfall of Ordinary Germans in 1945" by Florian Huber.

It's pretty bloody depressing already and I'm only 60 pages in. But rivetting reading, and essential, I think, to understand post war Germany.


This does sound interesting. How is it going?


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Just started the first book in the Wheel of Time series. Hope it gets better soon, 50 pages of nothing to engage my interest as yet. Not as immediate as LOTR or AGoT but I need to give it, cough, time I guess.


It's Pish.

Get thee to Malazan!


This, Malazan is great. WoT simply isn't that good imo, and yes I've read them all. :blush:


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"My name is Nynaeve ti al’Meara Mandragoran. The message I want sent is this. My husband rides from World’s End toward Tarwin’s Gap, toward Tarmon Gai’don. Will he ride alone?"


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Interview with the author: https://alondonjournal.net/2019/09/01/s ... -richards/


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Just started this.. so far just as good as the previous in the series


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A recommendation from the Literary Review newsletter:

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Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Just started "Promise me You'll Shoot Yourself : The Downfall of Ordinary Germans in 1945" by Florian Huber.

It's pretty bloody depressing already and I'm only 60 pages in. But rivetting reading, and essential, I think, to understand post war Germany.


This does sound interesting. How is it going?

Sorry, only saw this now.

It is very good, and traces how the German people embraced Hitler, how propaganda shaped their views right through to the suicide 'epidemic' at wars end.

I've also just finished this :

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Essential reading if you want to understand Brexit, how the UK got there, and why the EU takes the positions it does.


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Just started this.. so far just as good as the previous in the series


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:thumbup: Had no idea this was due out, not long read 'London Rules'.


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camroc1 wrote:
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camroc1 wrote:
Just started "Promise me You'll Shoot Yourself : The Downfall of Ordinary Germans in 1945" by Florian Huber.

It's pretty bloody depressing already and I'm only 60 pages in. But rivetting reading, and essential, I think, to understand post war Germany.


This does sound interesting. How is it going?

Sorry, only saw this now.

It is very good, and traces how the German people embraced Hitler, how propaganda shaped their views right through to the suicide 'epidemic' at wars end.


Cheers!

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Finally read Red Notice there.
Went through it in almost one sitting.

I know it's grim subject matter, bit it reads like a thriller.


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Anyone read the Rivers of London books by Ben Aaronovitch? Just finished the first one and about to start the second. I'm usually wary of series like this but the writing is top notch, very amusing.


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Only getting around to reading the great North road now, read all his stuff in no particular order.
Glorious day sitting in the garden reading.


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Dobbin wrote:
Anyone read the Rivers of London books by Ben Aaronovitch? Just finished the first one and about to start the second. I'm usually wary of series like this but the writing is top notch, very amusing.


I've read the first few (three perhaps) a few years ago. Not bad books and have some unexpectedly gruesome bits in them. I've been meaning to pick up the next one, but never get round to it,


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I'm just waiting for this to arrive.

Platform Seven (From the Sunday Times Bestselling Author of Apple Tree Yard)
by Louise Doughty

It's actually based around Peterborough station, which is just up the road, hence my interest.


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Dobbin wrote:
Anyone read the Rivers of London books by Ben Aaronovitch? Just finished the first one and about to start the second. I'm usually wary of series like this but the writing is top notch, very amusing.

They're good fun


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camroc1 wrote:
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camroc1 wrote:
Just started "Promise me You'll Shoot Yourself : The Downfall of Ordinary Germans in 1945" by Florian Huber.

It's pretty bloody depressing already and I'm only 60 pages in. But rivetting reading, and essential, I think, to understand post war Germany.


This does sound interesting. How is it going?

Sorry, only saw this now.

It is very good, and traces how the German people embraced Hitler, how propaganda shaped their views right through to the suicide 'epidemic' at wars end.

I've also just finished this :

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Essential reading if you want to understand Brexit, how the UK got there, and why the EU takes the positions it does.

Gonna see if I can try find it today. :thumbup:


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Despite being an avid remainer, that book irked me.

I can't put my finger on exactly and agreed with most of it, but I felt awkward while reading it.

Tbf that cover most of my interactions with camroc on the bored, so no surprise there then.


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Read Cormac McCarthys The Road this evening.. read it in one sitting as I couldn’t put it down. Contrary to many opinions I’ve read previously I found it quite beautiful.. I mean yes it’s a depressing apocalyptic shithole of a setting but the overall tone was quite optimistic I felt. Anyway I fcuking lived it.. best book I’ve read this year I think.


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Which Phillip Pullman book to start with please.


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Which Phillip Pullman book to start with please.


Well the Dark Materials trilogy is the only thing I’ve read by him but I found it hugely overrated. Started ok but trailed off hugely (maybe would have liked it better when I was a kid though)


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Which Phillip Pullman book to start with please.


Well the Dark Materials trilogy is the only thing I’ve read by him but I found it hugely overrated. Started ok but trailed off hugely (maybe would have liked it better when I was a kid though)


Same for me, and they fared worse on a second reading years later.


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Have had it on the list for years, couldn't believe how much I enjoyed it. Never saw the film but was expecting a thoroughly depressing book, it's sad in parts but absolutely hilarious throughout. A child's take on the dirt poor ultra conservative Catholic country Ireland once was. Made me guffaw every few pages.

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Followed by this which takes up where Angela's Ashes finishes and covers the start of his life in America. Between the two it tells the Irish emigration story really well. Hadn't planned on it but enjoyed the first so much I jumped into this.

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Autobiography. He's an incredibly smart individual and wasn't aware of his early stuff in US and his background. A lot of the stuff covers what you see on TV but it's still entertaining as he put himself in so many absurd situations. Good read and well written, reflects on his relationship with Saville a lot and you can tell it's something that still bothers him.

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Read this after Theroux book and it actually touches on a lot of the same themes. Autobiography of a woman who grew up in a batshit Mormon family by a father who was a survivalist, thought the Feds were going to murder his family at any moment etc. She somehow went on to study in Harvard and Cambridge despite being "homeschooled" by a pair of lunatics on a junkyard. Highly recommend.

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Read after reading "Prisoners of Geography" by the same author. Preferred Prisoners but this is still quite good, basically a history of flags and what they represent around the world in different countries/areas/continents throughout the past and right up to the present day.


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Can anyone suggest a good/relevant/worth-while book on the history of Iraq? I am not particularly interested in the ancient history period, but a good read on that would work as well. I'd say from the Ottomon period to present would work.

In terms of modern history I think I'll give 'The Modern History of Iraq' by Marr and 'A History of Iraq' by Tripp a read. Any suggestions welcome.


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HKCJ wrote:
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Which Phillip Pullman book to start with please.


Well the Dark Materials trilogy is the only thing I’ve read by him but I found it hugely overrated. Started ok but trailed off hugely (maybe would have liked it better when I was a kid though)


Same for me, and they fared worse on a second reading years later.


Agreed. I thought the first half of the first book was sensational, but it began dropping off significantly after that. Never hit those heights again at any point in the remaining 2.5 books, although there were some good moments here and there.

I remember reading that Pullman didn't like to outline or plan ahead, instead preferring to write 'as it happened' by the seat of his pants. It showed ...


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Just started this.. so far just as good as the previous in the series


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:thumbup: Had no idea this was due out, not long read 'London Rules'.


should one read them in order?


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MZ - yes, you need to read them in order, otherwise there are key plot points that won't make any sense, particularly later on.


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So I scooted through a few Pullmans and thought they were just ok, finished Tombland by CJ Stander and that was good.
The latest Jack Reacher is awful, I hear Lee Child is getting a mick passport over Brexit.


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So I scooted through a few Pullmans and thought they were just ok, finished Tombland by CJ Stander and that was good.
The latest Jack Reacher is awful, I hear Lee Child is getting a mick passport over Brexit.


All Jack Reachers are bloody awful. God knows why it’s so popular when there are Mick Heron books to devour


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Mick Heron "slow horses" up next


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Mick Heron "slow horses" up next


The series gets better as it goes along FYI but slow horses is a nice introduction.


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If anyone likes sci-fi.


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HKCJ wrote:
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Mick Heron "slow horses" up next


The series gets better as it goes along FYI but slow horses is a nice introduction.


The short story at the end of Joe Country is as good as Le Carre. I'm assuming he's carrying the series on?


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You should put it in the sci-fi thread, Groucho. Will give it a read.


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You should put it in the sci-fi thread, Groucho. Will give it a read.

I’ll give it a read.


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are you the poster formerly known as groucho?


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Mick Heron "slow horses" up next


The series gets better as it goes along FYI but slow horses is a nice introduction.


The short story at the end of Joe Country is as good as Le Carre. I'm assuming he's carrying the series on?


I read it on my kindle and just checked there isn’t any short story. Looks like a trip to the library for me!

After a bad start to the year I’ve been on a very decent run of late with some belting books. A Gentleman in Moscow, Kill the Father, We Need to Talk about Kevin and The Road all very enjoyable. Started War and Peace this week and without stating the obvious it’s definitely a bit of a slog.. a third of the way through but thankfully it’s far more readable than some other books of that era.


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are you the poster formerly known as groucho?

It's a secret. But yes.


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6.Jones wrote:
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are you the poster formerly known as groucho?

It's a secret. But yes.


It is good to have you back

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are you the poster formerly known as groucho?

It's a secret. But yes.

Is this book the reason you took a break from PR?


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