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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:59 pm 
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Ireland will win the World Cup because they will dominate possession, be the most disciplined and keep the scoreboard ticking over with a ruthless efficiency.

Ireland won't win the World Cup because they will start a knockout game sluggishly and an opponent will blitz them in the first 20 minutes, knowing Ireland's terrible recent record of coming back from half time deficits.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:04 pm 
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England will win the World Cup because on their day they can beat anyone.

England won't win the World Cup because when it is not their day and the opposition do something unexpected they fail to adapt and change from plan A.

The latter is way more likely..


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:06 pm 
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Ireland won't win the RWC because that would require winning a QF.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:44 pm 
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England will win the World Cup because on their day they can beat anyone.

England won't win the World Cup because when it is not their day and the opposition do something unexpected they fail to adapt and change from plan A.

The latter is way more likely..


Perfectly put.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:49 pm 
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The All Blacks will win the world cup because they have a 30% chance of doing so and that's better than anyone else.

The All Blacks will not win the world cup because 2 world cups ago they only had a 3% chance if winning 3 world cups in a row and if they win it it will be unfair.


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Wales will win the RWC because we have strength in depth and can handle injuries so much better than ever before.

Wales won't win the RWC because while we have plenty og good internationals we have very real world class one (AWJ, Tips, Liam).
I.e. we are the moneyball of world rugby, aka A's did shit in the playoffs


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Historically, you need the best or near best flyhalf or scrumhalf in the world to win. The near best one must have a blinder of a WC. Pollard is at the age when SA players normally hit their prime. Sorry guys


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Wales will win the RWC because we have strength in depth and can handle injuries so much better than ever before.

Wales won't win the RWC because while we have plenty og good internationals we have very real world class one (AWJ, Tips, Liam).
I.e. we are the moneyball of world rugby, aka A's did shit in the playoffs


I would add Wales, for all their great defence, have always had trouble being able to throw up points on SH opponents.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:09 pm 
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England will win the world cup because, last time excepted, they raise their game and have all the clubs in their bag to win

England wont win the world cup because NZ or SA will


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:26 pm 
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USA will win the World Cup because every team minus maybe Canada, Tonga, Uruguay, Russia and Namibia forget that it starts next month and shows up in November. To be fair, some Kiwi or SA expats in Japan would probably give us a go.

USA will not win, because, well, we are the USA in rugby


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:30 pm 
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Ireland will win the RWC because we have the Movez :smug:

Ireland won't win the RWC because we may leave the Movez under wraps for another 4 years....


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Argentina will win the RWC because Ls Pumas always raise their form come RCW time.

Argentina won't win the RWC because the latter hasn't been enough so far and quite likely won't be this time either.


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The All Blacks will win because of the AURA.

The ABs won't win because the aura doesn't work against the rush defence.


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Wales will win it because they've developed a style of play where they're comfortable chasing a game or defending a slim lead, plus it's quite possible the all blacks will get knocked out before Wales have to play them.

The big teams at the world cup can always go up a level but I'm not sure Wales can.


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Ireland will win because Joe Schmidt will finally unravel the movez he has been holding back since 2015 and the whole world will crumble before them.

Ireland will not win because our half backs have been playing like a bag of shit all year, the rest of our back line have f**k all creativity and our back row will be under powered with no pissypants SOB or Leavy.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:59 pm 
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we're shit. ARU. Cheika. Rest of the coaching staff. Its not hard to nail that one for Aus.

Edit: That's obviously a big "won't" for Aus.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:03 pm 
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Ireland will win because Joe Schmidt will finally unravel the movez he has been holding back since 2015 and the whole world will crumble before them.

Ireland will not win because our half backs have been playing like a bag of shit all year, the rest of our back line have f**k all creativity and our back row will be under powered with no pissypants SOB or Leavy.

Ireland won't because they've over confident.


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Jim Lahey wrote:
Ireland will win because Joe Schmidt will finally unravel the movez he has been holding back since 2015 and the whole world will crumble before them.

Ireland will not win because our half backs have been playing like a bag of shit all year, the rest of our back line have f**k all creativity and our back row will be under powered with no pissypants SOB or Leavy.

Ireland won't because they've over confident.


The Six Nations tournament this year has taken care of that. Sure, some of the punters and media will be overoptimistic, but most of the Irish rugby fans are very worried, especially considering the recent form of our halfbacks.


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Historically, you need the best or near best flyhalf or scrumhalf in the world to win. The near best one must have a blinder of a WC. Pollard is at the age when SA players normally hit their prime. Sorry guys


SA won't win the WC because they can't read simple instructions


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All Blacks - won't win the WC because they are not very good

All Blacks - will win the WC because none of the other teams are actually that good either


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Jim Lahey wrote:
Ireland will win because Joe Schmidt will finally unravel the movez he has been holding back since 2015 and the whole world will crumble before them.

Ireland will not win because our half backs have been playing like a bag of shit all year, the rest of our back line have f**k all creativity and our back row will be under powered with no pissypants SOB or Leavy.


:lol:


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The French will exit at the pool stages for the first time.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:07 pm 
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Scotland - won't win because lose to NZ in QF.......again.

Scotland - win after very average pool games, losing to Ireland and squeezing past Samoa and Japan but sustaining no injuries to key players. Then face injury-ravaged SA who have squeezed past NZ in a classic, brutal battle that leaves both SH giants knackered and decimated by injury. Dispatch SA with growing confidence and no injuries to key players before defeating familiar and psychologically beatable 6N opposition in SF and Final.


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Ireland will win the world cup as our phased possession game will frustrate SH teams into giving away penalties.

Ireland wont win the world cup as said possession game doesn't work against Wales.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:18 pm 
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England will win because everyone theoretically has a shot.

We won't win because we're not good enough, we have a shocking lack of depth in key positions, so-called leaders who can't or won't change things up on the field if necessary, a surprising amount of inexperience in and around any match day 23, a horrible tendency to blow ourselves out in the first half and plenty more none of you want to read.


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England will win the world cup because, last time excepted, they raise their game and have all the clubs in their bag to win

England wont win the world cup because NZ or SA will


Excepting the last two. 2011 was a shit show and only our weak group saw us progress to the quarters.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:21 pm 
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The All Blacks will win the world cup because they have a 30% chance of doing so and that's better than anyone else.

The All Blacks will not win the world cup because 2 world cups ago they only had a 3% chance if winning 3 world cups in a row and if they win it it will be unfair.



That sound you can hear is Thomas Bayes turning in his coffin.



(I presume you were joking, so I'm only aiming for the geek audience rather than taking a shot at you).


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:22 pm 
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We will win because Rassie is now fully in control and can select the best XV.

We won't win because of quotas.


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All Blacks - won't win the WC because they are not very good

All Blacks - will win the WC because none of the other teams are actually that good either

:lol: That's so ridiculous.

This AB team are world beaters. The best team in rugby history bar the last All Black team. Don't fool yourself that the recent level of dominance is normal. The ABs are still the team to beat and it's not because all the other teams are shit. Minus the Wallabies, who are legitimately at a low point, pretty much all the other teams from Argentina onwards are coming into this WC better than ever.

(and maybe France, who are a roll of the dice on the day to be honest)


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England will win the world cup because every other team ranked above 50 in the world will be struck down with [picks random illness from list] bubonic plague.

England won't win the world cup because they will still find a way to lose to the Faroe Islands.


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England will win the world cup because every other team ranked above 50 in the world will be struck down with [picks random illness from list] bubonic plague.

England won't win the world cup because they will still find a way to lose to the Faroe Islands.


Check ur privilege bro, these kinds of posts are reserved for us.

Some might consider an England victory tragic. Our victory would require an actual tragedy.


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The All Blacks will win because of the AURA.

The ABs won't win because the aura doesn't work against the rush defence.


:lol: :lol:


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The All Blacks will win the World Cup because there is a 1 in 4,500,000 chance Hansen will pick me to play. A complete no body who hasn't played for years, but due to the surprise factor, will win it for us.

The All Blacks won't win the World Cup because there is a 4,499,999 chance to 1 Hansen won't pick me to play and the surprise factor won't be there.


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Wales will win it because they've developed a style of play where they're comfortable chasing a game or defending a slim lead, plus it's quite possible the all blacks will get knocked out before Wales have to play them.

The big teams at the world cup can always go up a level but I'm not sure Wales can.


Define a "big team" in 2019? Wales would have to consider themselves one of those, injuries aside Gatland above almost all others could actually name his WC run-on 23 now. Rassie should be able to after this weekend I would think. The other 6N teams will have to wait for the warm-up games to be played to see where they stand although both Jones and Schmidt will already have a fair idea.
Wales and SA in the pound seats for my money. :thumbup:


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Ireland will win because Joe has had his eye on the ball and planned the cycle perfectly, ironing out all the problems during the 6Ns without giving away the fact that we are really about to become, the best team in the world.

Ireland won't win because the 6Ns showed how good we are actually are and the movez are a crossfield kick in the oppo 22 and a kick and chase without the chase because really, who can be fked?


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Nolanator wrote:
Ireland won't win the RWC because that would require winning a QF.

This


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The All Blacks will win the World Cup because there is a 1 in 4,500,000 chance Hansen will pick me to play. A complete no body who hasn't played for years, but due to the surprise factor, will win it for us.

The All Blacks won't win the World Cup because there is a 4,499,999 chance to 1 Hansen won't pick me to play and the surprise factor won't be there.
1 in 4.5 million chance? Did Hansen say he was selecting the team, at random, from the entire population? (edit: shut up stats geeks, I know its a 31 man squad) And how do I make sure my name is in the draw. Do I have to update my electoral role details? is there an age limit or could we potentially field a team of infants and elderly. This is giving me ideas for a new type of world cup


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Won't - shit team

Win - we'll have Nigel Owens as ref and he'll appreciate our stance on gay rights.


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Canada will win the World Cup in my dreams after a full on bender at my local.

Canada will not win the cup because our squad sucks at lineouts, scrums, kickoffs, defense, loose play, goal kicking, kicking to touch, kicking strategically, hitting the line at pace, rucking, mauling, defending rucks and mauls, coaching, management, support runners, tackling, passing under pressure, executing basic on ones and using overlaps....

You get it. We just suck. The professional era left us behind and unable to regain what we once had. In reality, we will most likely not even win a game. We don't deserve to even attend this RWC to be honest.


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Ireland will win the RWC because we have the Movez :smug:

Ireland won't win the RWC because we may leave the Movez under wraps for another 4 years....


:lol: :thumbup:


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Wales

Will: Best organised team in the world and super fit. Defensively as good as they come and have a back 3 good enough to completely nullify all teams who rely heavily on kicking for territory (Ireland, England, South Africa etc.)

Won't: However you dress it up, on paper our forwards are amongst the weakest in tier 1. They have been greater than the sum of their parts for a year and a half now but when you think about it, can you really imagine the world cup trophy being paraded around by Tom Francis, Jake Ball, Cory Hill, Nicky Smith etc.? I can't.

To give them credit though they must be some of the hardest working players in the world considering what they've achieved.


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