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Drivers in front of you who indicate left and then take an age to actually turn, forcing you to slow down dramatically and cause everyone behind you to do so too. Your other option is to make a dangerous passing manoeuvre into oncoming traffic.

Die in a ditch, cvnts!

Chewing gum in a gents urinal. Lazy carnts.

jdogscoop wrote:Drivers in front of you who indicate left and then take an age to actually turn, forcing you to slow down dramatically and cause everyone behind you to do so too. Your other option is to make a dangerous passing manoeuvre into oncoming traffic.

Die in a ditch, cvnts!

Maybe related, but people who don't pull out all the way when turning at an intersection so they can make a 90 degree turn. Two things ... and one happens a lot near my school ...

1. They rush to make the light and cut diagonally across the lines where a car might be or grazing the bumper, sometimes with pedestrians in the crosswalk!

2. And when the way isn't clear, and you're behind, you're stuck for the next light cycle because they didn't scoot out far enough for you to join in.

Bill Burr demonstrates good etiquette here: https://youtu.be/G70d_2bvv8M?t=42

ARU CEOs taking their time to get into a chauffeur driven Range Rover illegally parked across a driveway when there is a perfectly decent car bay opposite the new, expensive and shiny ARU HQ.

Women who can't funcion without their cellphone

Johannesburg taxi drivers. Push their way in and if they want just drive up the wrong side of the road, on the pavement or wherever else they like. Useless cants.

Cûnts who knick people's bikes

diarm wrote:

Boobs not Moobs wrote:People who spend £200 on an ipod and then listen to music through those god awfully utterly shite tinny muddy white headphones. Not to mention they're so shite they don't actually direct the music into the wearers ears but to everyone in earshot.

Apparently Apple were stunned when people turned up at their shops asking to buy them. Even Apple admit they're shit but there's not end to peoples blind stupidity.

Only saving grace is that the apparently cool looking bloke is listening to some cheesy pop and everyone can hear it.

They really are so shit, and bloody uncomfortable as well. I reckon I could pay a drunk Leinster fan to follow me about, talking shite and poking me in the ear with a sharp stick and it would hurt less than wearing a pair of those plastic pieces of crap for more than about 30 seconds.

A lot of people don't actually like music, they just want a bit of background noise and music is the most socially normative way to generate it. Given how shite the quality of audio file you can get from amazon/itunes/wherever is, the headphones aren't spoiling the sensory experience all that much, they're still crap, but you're not going to be getting a radically better sound experience from a super duper pair of Sennheisers say because the audio source doesn't have enough information to provide.

I still buy cd's so that I can rip them in in FLAC, though I've noticed places like 7 Digital are starting to offer more and more in FLAC, which is grand as I'd rather not have the clutter. It's only once you've got a good audio source that your headphone and player hardware matter all that much.


Annoyance - plastic cd cases. There's no reason everyone can't do the slim card ones some bands use. Also more environmentally responsible.

People who still buy CDs.

People who don't appreciate audio quality.

People who don't actually buy music to support musicians (Spotify's pittance per listen doesn't count).

Neighbours deciding to have a bonfire at 6.30pm in the evening that burns for 5 hours in a residential cul de sac.

Phucking schools hoiking parents in for every little thing. Had to spend an hour at the Class assembly this morning to watch my lad recite 1 line of a poem that the rest of the class then went on to butcher. And the fecking teacher standing their proud as punch with a big look what I made grin on her pasty face. Are we supposed to be impressed? He sang the whole of Yellow Submarine in the car in the way to school and you think it great that he remembered 4 words? Phucking do one you bluffer. So then I had to be late to work, delaying my chance to scan the Bored for shit fights ffs.

Plus, this is a bit of a distraction for him in A Level year.

It’s an article of faith for most schools that parents are just sitting around at home bored, and they’re doing them a favour by giving them fun things to do. Like running up a Tutankhamen costume overnight.

Mahoney wrote:It’s an article of faith for most schools that parents are just sitting around at home bored, and they’re doing them a favour by giving them fun things to do. Like running up a Tutankhamen costume overnight.

I assume you just wrapped him in bog roll and told him to walk in bow-legged?

jdogscoop wrote:Drivers in front of you who indicate left and then take an age to actually turn, forcing you to slow down dramatically and cause everyone behind you to do so too. Your other option is to make a dangerous passing manoeuvre into oncoming traffic.

Die in a ditch, cvnts!

If you have to slow down dramatically you're either too close or not paying attention.

Doing a turn down a side street with a driver up your arse who doesn't know/give a fig that you have no visibilty as to what it round the corner. I know at the end of my back street some stupid unthinking drivers park right at thr start opposite a large cemetary wall. THis means you don't see the car till you're at least 50% round and it's very tight, it's just a back street, you can just squeeze two cars passed each other. I had to tell a van parked there the other day that his 2018 shiny black van could get scratched and pointed out my neighbours car further up who learned the lesson the hard way.

Another example a 90deg bend where you have two stuppid parkers on each side at opposite ends of the bend meaning as I had the other day you have two cars with no visibility having to go around these cars meeting at the bend. The only reason why there wasn't an accident was because I was going slow because I know about the twating Juke that's often parked there. THe grey BMW didn't know or didn't care that just before I turned I had to get around a twatting primera so was going far too fast around the juke.

Brazil wrote:

Mahoney wrote:It’s an article of faith for most schools that parents are just sitting around at home bored, and they’re doing them a favour by giving them fun things to do. Like running up a Tutankhamen costume overnight.

I assume you just wrapped him in bog roll and told him to walk in bow-legged?

Of course not. I spent hours measuring out that bloody gold and blue mask, transferring it to paper, colouring it in, backing it with cardboard and so on.

Only for the little **** to be embarrassed to wear it because it wasn’t as good as the plastic effort the other parents had bought from the costume shop!

Mahoney wrote:It’s an article of faith for most schools that parents are just sitting around at home bored, and they’re doing them a favour by giving them fun things to do. Like running up a Tutankhamen costume overnight.

The teachers at our kids' school are great in so many ways - accommodating, helpful, genuinely care about education etc. But they are utterly, hopelessly, totally disorganised. Getting 24 hours notice of anything is about the best you can ever hope for. I am constantly amazed they remember which school they are supposed to go to.

A5D5E5 wrote:

Mahoney wrote:It’s an article of faith for most schools that parents are just sitting around at home bored, and they’re doing them a favour by giving them fun things to do. Like running up a Tutankhamen costume overnight.

The teachers at our kids' school are great in so many ways - accommodating, helpful, genuinely care about education etc. But they are utterly, hopelessly, totally disorganised. Getting 24 hours notice of anything is about the best you can ever hope for. I am constantly amazed they remember which school they are supposed to go to.

Its the same the world over, my younger guy came home with a note on Tuesday telling us he had a Gaelic Football match on Wednesday at 3pm against a team 40km away and that parents were expected to bring their kids to the match,

Witchfinder General wrote:

A5D5E5 wrote:

Mahoney wrote:It’s an article of faith for most schools that parents are just sitting around at home bored, and they’re doing them a favour by giving them fun things to do. Like running up a Tutankhamen costume overnight.

The teachers at our kids' school are great in so many ways - accommodating, helpful, genuinely care about education etc. But they are utterly, hopelessly, totally disorganised. Getting 24 hours notice of anything is about the best you can ever hope for. I am constantly amazed they remember which school they are supposed to go to.

Its the same the world over, my younger guy came home with a note on Tuesday telling us he had a Gaelic Football match on Wednesday at 3pm against a team 40km away and that parents were expected to bring their kids to the match,

so much this. we get a mail on Tuesday afternoon, saying "remember as part of national book week, tomorrow the children are to come in their favourite book character or superhero costume IF THEY WANT" - my capitals to indicate the passive aggressive real message of ' send them in uniform if you want to make your kids get laughed at and called a spazzo pooro and mentally scar them forever'

we bumped into 3 other parents in the 24 hour Tesco at 8pm that night, all buying superhero costumes for their kids.
Teachers are utterly useless !

backrow wrote:

Witchfinder General wrote:

A5D5E5 wrote:

Mahoney wrote:It’s an article of faith for most schools that parents are just sitting around at home bored, and they’re doing them a favour by giving them fun things to do. Like running up a Tutankhamen costume overnight.

The teachers at our kids' school are great in so many ways - accommodating, helpful, genuinely care about education etc. But they are utterly, hopelessly, totally disorganised. Getting 24 hours notice of anything is about the best you can ever hope for. I am constantly amazed they remember which school they are supposed to go to.

Its the same the world over, my younger guy came home with a note on Tuesday telling us he had a Gaelic Football match on Wednesday at 3pm against a team 40km away and that parents were expected to bring their kids to the match,

so much this. we get a mail on Tuesday afternoon, saying "remember as part of national book week, tomorrow the children are to come in their favourite book character or superhero costume IF THEY WANT" - my capitals to indicate the passive aggressive real message of ' send them in uniform if you want to make your kids get laughed at and called a spazzo pooro and mentally scar them forever'

we bumped into 3 other parents in the 24 hour Tesco at 8pm that night, all buying superhero costumes for their kids.
Teachers are utterly useless !

For the love of Jesus just swing by the school and have a word. If you cannot make time to do that then send a polite but direct note in to the effect that better notice be given for such time consuming efforts, or else choose other activities which do not place unreasonable demands on you as parents. You need to start a conversation otherwise shit snowballs. And if you get a "you're a bad parent vibe" then it's you, the teacher and the principal having a come to Jesus.

Worked for us when we had an eager beaver relatively inexperienced but hugely well intentioned young teacher for our daughter in primary school.

Say nothing, get nothing.

redderneck wrote:

backrow wrote:

Witchfinder General wrote:

A5D5E5 wrote:

Mahoney wrote:It’s an article of faith for most schools that parents are just sitting around at home bored, and they’re doing them a favour by giving them fun things to do. Like running up a Tutankhamen costume overnight.

The teachers at our kids' school are great in so many ways - accommodating, helpful, genuinely care about education etc. But they are utterly, hopelessly, totally disorganised. Getting 24 hours notice of anything is about the best you can ever hope for. I am constantly amazed they remember which school they are supposed to go to.

Its the same the world over, my younger guy came home with a note on Tuesday telling us he had a Gaelic Football match on Wednesday at 3pm against a team 40km away and that parents were expected to bring their kids to the match,

so much this. we get a mail on Tuesday afternoon, saying "remember as part of national book week, tomorrow the children are to come in their favourite book character or superhero costume IF THEY WANT" - my capitals to indicate the passive aggressive real message of ' send them in uniform if you want to make your kids get laughed at and called a spazzo pooro and mentally scar them forever'

we bumped into 3 other parents in the 24 hour Tesco at 8pm that night, all buying superhero costumes for their kids.
Teachers are utterly useless !

For the love of Jesus just swing by the school and have a word. If you cannot make time to do that then send a polite but direct note in to the effect that better notice be given for such time consuming efforts, or else choose other activities which do not place unreasonable demands on you as parents. You need to start a conversation otherwise shit snowballs. And if you get a "you're a bad parent vibe" then it's you, the teacher and the principal having a come to Jesus.

Worked for us when we had an eager beaver relatively inexperienced but hugely well intentioned young teacher for our daughter in primary school.

Say nothing, get nothing.

hmm how can I put this - well, this EXACT same topic gets mentioned at every parent event, the stock school answer is that "due to cutbacks / austerity / breixt / Thatcher, we can only give you 5 mins notice of anything"

Primary school teachers are by & large, useless lefty twunts, and being 99% female, off sick a couple of times per month.

Boobs not Moobs wrote:

jdogscoop wrote:Drivers in front of you who indicate left and then take an age to actually turn, forcing you to slow down dramatically and cause everyone behind you to do so too. Your other option is to make a dangerous passing manoeuvre into oncoming traffic.

Die in a ditch, cvnts!

If you have to slow down dramatically you're either too close or not paying attention.

Doing a turn down a side street with a driver up your arse who doesn't know/give a fig that you have no visibilty as to what it round the corner. I know at the end of my back street some stupid unthinking drivers park right at thr start opposite a large cemetary wall. THis means you don't see the car till you're at least 50% round and it's very tight, it's just a back street, you can just squeeze two cars passed each other. I had to tell a van parked there the other day that his 2018 shiny black van could get scratched and pointed out my neighbours car further up who learned the lesson the hard way.

Another example a 90deg bend where you have two stuppid parkers on each side at opposite ends of the bend meaning as I had the other day you have two cars with no visibility having to go around these cars meeting at the bend. The only reason why there wasn't an accident was because I was going slow because I know about the twating Juke that's often parked there. THe grey BMW didn't know or didn't care that just before I turned I had to get around a twatting primera so was going far too fast around the juke.

Thanks for the wo-mansplanation.

This was a very different situation. I was on a New Zealand state highway, which is one lane on each side, going in opposite directions. I was going the limit of 100kmh behind another car at the same speed, with a truck (lorry) on my tail. The car indicates to go left into a fruit stall, and jams on the brakes, slowing to a crawl before taking an eternity to take the turn.

I am very aware of the truck on my tail, so brake as well, conscious of the fact it is going to take him/her longer to stop. The car in front continues to dominate the left lane, as if to take the piss in turning off the roadway. At this point, I consider going to my right, into the other lane, to go around this dangerous pest. I check my mirror. A car, driven my a clearly frustrated driver, is absolutely honking it down the right hand lane (against oncoming traffic) in a bid to get rid of all of us. He makes it before the oncoming car passes, but not without some discomfort.

All told, the driver in front has created a dangerous situation by not exiting the road quickly. Thanks for the unhelpful analysis though, Boobs.

Brioche hamburger buns, who the fudge likes that shit?

jdogscoop wrote:

Boobs not Moobs wrote:

jdogscoop wrote:Drivers in front of you who indicate left and then take an age to actually turn, forcing you to slow down dramatically and cause everyone behind you to do so too. Your other option is to make a dangerous passing manoeuvre into oncoming traffic.

Die in a ditch, cvnts!

If you have to slow down dramatically you're either too close or not paying attention.

Doing a turn down a side street with a driver up your arse who doesn't know/give a fig that you have no visibilty as to what it round the corner. I know at the end of my back street some stupid unthinking drivers park right at thr start opposite a large cemetary wall. THis means you don't see the car till you're at least 50% round and it's very tight, it's just a back street, you can just squeeze two cars passed each other. I had to tell a van parked there the other day that his 2018 shiny black van could get scratched and pointed out my neighbours car further up who learned the lesson the hard way.

Another example a 90deg bend where you have two stuppid parkers on each side at opposite ends of the bend meaning as I had the other day you have two cars with no visibility having to go around these cars meeting at the bend. The only reason why there wasn't an accident was because I was going slow because I know about the twating Juke that's often parked there. THe grey BMW didn't know or didn't care that just before I turned I had to get around a twatting primera so was going far too fast around the juke.

Thanks for the wo-mansplanation.

This was a very different situation. I was on a New Zealand state highway, which is one lane on each side, going in opposite directions. I was going the limit of 100kmh behind another car at the same speed, with a truck (lorry) on my tail. The car indicates to go left into a fruit stall, and jams on the brakes, slowing to a crawl before taking an eternity to take the turn.

I am very aware of the truck on my tail, so brake as well, conscious of the fact it is going to take him/her longer to stop. The car in front continues to dominate the left lane, as if to take the piss in turning off the roadway. At this point, I consider going to my right, into the other lane, to go around this dangerous pest. I check my mirror. A car, driven my a clearly frustrated driver, is absolutely honking it down the right hand lane (against oncoming traffic) in a bid to get rid of all of us. He makes it before the oncoming car passes, but not without some discomfort.

All told, the driver in front has created a dangerous situation by not exiting the road quickly. Thanks for the unhelpful analysis though, Boobs.

You're welcome, bet that daft overtaking driver who went round a lorry is an audi driver too. From what you've written the incosiderate car turning wouldn't be legally at fault if there was an accident. Stopping distances and the unsafe overtaking would be blamed.

I can't say I have this issue though, people driving up my backside though is an everyday occurrance. It's pissing down, has been all day so far, but again I've had people up my backside today at 50mph. It's such a problem now I've bought a couple of dashcams I just need to decide which to install.

Jay Cee Gee wrote:Brioche hamburger buns, who the fudge likes that shit?

Never been served one and would say something if I was.

sorCrer wrote:

Jay Cee Gee wrote:Brioche hamburger buns, who the fudge likes that shit?

Never been served one and would say something if I was.

They're great

Boobs not Moobs wrote:

jdogscoop wrote:

Boobs not Moobs wrote:

jdogscoop wrote:Drivers in front of you who indicate left and then take an age to actually turn, forcing you to slow down dramatically and cause everyone behind you to do so too. Your other option is to make a dangerous passing manoeuvre into oncoming traffic.

Die in a ditch, cvnts!

If you have to slow down dramatically you're either too close or not paying attention.

Doing a turn down a side street with a driver up your arse who doesn't know/give a fig that you have no visibilty as to what it round the corner. I know at the end of my back street some stupid unthinking drivers park right at thr start opposite a large cemetary wall. THis means you don't see the car till you're at least 50% round and it's very tight, it's just a back street, you can just squeeze two cars passed each other. I had to tell a van parked there the other day that his 2018 shiny black van could get scratched and pointed out my neighbours car further up who learned the lesson the hard way.

Another example a 90deg bend where you have two stuppid parkers on each side at opposite ends of the bend meaning as I had the other day you have two cars with no visibility having to go around these cars meeting at the bend. The only reason why there wasn't an accident was because I was going slow because I know about the twating Juke that's often parked there. THe grey BMW didn't know or didn't care that just before I turned I had to get around a twatting primera so was going far too fast around the juke.

Thanks for the wo-mansplanation.

This was a very different situation. I was on a New Zealand state highway, which is one lane on each side, going in opposite directions. I was going the limit of 100kmh behind another car at the same speed, with a truck (lorry) on my tail. The car indicates to go left into a fruit stall, and jams on the brakes, slowing to a crawl before taking an eternity to take the turn.

I am very aware of the truck on my tail, so brake as well, conscious of the fact it is going to take him/her longer to stop. The car in front continues to dominate the left lane, as if to take the piss in turning off the roadway. At this point, I consider going to my right, into the other lane, to go around this dangerous pest. I check my mirror. A car, driven my a clearly frustrated driver, is absolutely honking it down the right hand lane (against oncoming traffic) in a bid to get rid of all of us. He makes it before the oncoming car passes, but not without some discomfort.

All told, the driver in front has created a dangerous situation by not exiting the road quickly. Thanks for the unhelpful analysis though, Boobs.

You're welcome, bet that daft overtaking driver who went round a lorry is an audi driver too. From what you've written the incosiderate car turning wouldn't be legally at fault if there was an accident. Stopping distances and the unsafe overtaking would be blamed.

I can't say I have this issue though, people driving up my backside though is an everyday occurrance. It's pissing down, has been all day so far, but again I've had people up my backside today at 50mph. It's such a problem now I've bought a couple of dashcams I just need to decide which to install.

That would be an injustice. You can't just jam on the brakes with no hazards in your way, as was the case in this instance. I get the collision rules that favour the lead driver, which is why nothing illegal happened. But also consider the fact I was 32 at the time, and found this a difficult situation. Consider if your 18 year old kid was in my situation, and something did happen. Would you be so sympathetic to the driver in front? I doubt it. It's dangerous driving, no matter how you position it.

jdogscoop wrote:

Boobs not Moobs wrote:

jdogscoop wrote:

Boobs not Moobs wrote:

jdogscoop wrote:Drivers in front of you who indicate left and then take an age to actually turn, forcing you to slow down dramatically and cause everyone behind you to do so too. Your other option is to make a dangerous passing manoeuvre into oncoming traffic.

Die in a ditch, cvnts!

If you have to slow down dramatically you're either too close or not paying attention.

Doing a turn down a side street with a driver up your arse who doesn't know/give a fig that you have no visibilty as to what it round the corner. I know at the end of my back street some stupid unthinking drivers park right at thr start opposite a large cemetary wall. THis means you don't see the car till you're at least 50% round and it's very tight, it's just a back street, you can just squeeze two cars passed each other. I had to tell a van parked there the other day that his 2018 shiny black van could get scratched and pointed out my neighbours car further up who learned the lesson the hard way.

Another example a 90deg bend where you have two stuppid parkers on each side at opposite ends of the bend meaning as I had the other day you have two cars with no visibility having to go around these cars meeting at the bend. The only reason why there wasn't an accident was because I was going slow because I know about the twating Juke that's often parked there. THe grey BMW didn't know or didn't care that just before I turned I had to get around a twatting primera so was going far too fast around the juke.

Thanks for the wo-mansplanation.

This was a very different situation. I was on a New Zealand state highway, which is one lane on each side, going in opposite directions. I was going the limit of 100kmh behind another car at the same speed, with a truck (lorry) on my tail. The car indicates to go left into a fruit stall, and jams on the brakes, slowing to a crawl before taking an eternity to take the turn.

I am very aware of the truck on my tail, so brake as well, conscious of the fact it is going to take him/her longer to stop. The car in front continues to dominate the left lane, as if to take the piss in turning off the roadway. At this point, I consider going to my right, into the other lane, to go around this dangerous pest. I check my mirror. A car, driven my a clearly frustrated driver, is absolutely honking it down the right hand lane (against oncoming traffic) in a bid to get rid of all of us. He makes it before the oncoming car passes, but not without some discomfort.

All told, the driver in front has created a dangerous situation by not exiting the road quickly. Thanks for the unhelpful analysis though, Boobs.

You're welcome, bet that daft overtaking driver who went round a lorry is an audi driver too. From what you've written the incosiderate car turning wouldn't be legally at fault if there was an accident. Stopping distances and the unsafe overtaking would be blamed.

I can't say I have this issue though, people driving up my backside though is an everyday occurrance. It's pissing down, has been all day so far, but again I've had people up my backside today at 50mph. It's such a problem now I've bought a couple of dashcams I just need to decide which to install.

That would be an injustice. You can't just jam on the brakes with no hazards in your way, as was the case in this instance. I get the collision rules that favour the lead driver, which is why nothing illegal happened. But also consider the fact I was 32 at the time, and found this a difficult situation. Consider if your 18 year old kid was in my situation, and something did happen. Would you be so sympathetic to the driver in front? I doubt it. It's dangerous driving, no matter how you position it.

This is bullshit. If it's dangerous you're too close. Period.

This is bullshit. If it's dangerous you're too close. Period.

I completely disagree. As I say, nothing happened, thanks mainly to my defensive driving. The idiot in front of me probably didn't think it was dangerous driving either, because ignorance doesn't tend to lend itself to self awareness.

The fact of the matter is, on a clear straight open road in the South Island, if you brake heavily for no other reason but to make a sudden and slow left turn, you are creating a dangerous situation.

Argue with me til the cows come home if you like, but I won't agree with you. I was going 100kmh at a safe distance.

Disagree all you like, you're wrong. It's not your place to decide whether the driver in front is allowed to hit his brakes or not. All you have to do is be ready in case he does. If you're not ready you're the problem.

Like I've said, I was ready. That's why a crash didn't happen.

Whose fault was this again?

jdogscoop wrote:Like I've said, I was ready. That's why a crash didn't happen.

Whose fault was this again?

Then there's no problem. What were you complaining about again?

koroke hangareka wrote:

jdogscoop wrote:Like I've said, I was ready. That's why a crash didn't happen.

Whose fault was this again?

Then there's no problem. What were you complaining about again?

Have you ever heard about insurance fraud, you provincial fucktard?

You can't just drive ahead of someone and slam on the brakes for fun, you absolute fantasist.

What an ill-tempered post. You felt that the driver in front was unjustified in braking as hard as he did. No doubt he felt he was perfectly justified. It's his opinion that counts, not yours.

koroke hangareka wrote:What an ill-tempered post. You felt that the driver in front was unjustified in braking as hard as he did. No doubt he felt he was perfectly justified. It's his opinion that counts, not yours.

If you think a fruit stall justifies emergency braking and a slow turn to the left then I pray for my and other drivers' sake you never ever "grace" SH1 of South Island with your presence.

People go on about tourist drivers but you just do not get it. Hang your head in shame.

jdogscoop wrote:

koroke hangareka wrote:What an ill-tempered post. You felt that the driver in front was unjustified in braking as hard as he did. No doubt he felt he was perfectly justified. It's his opinion that counts, not yours.

If you think a fruit stall justifies emergency braking and a slow turn to the left then I pray for my and other drivers' sake you never ever "grace" SH1 of South Island with your presence.

People go on about tourist drivers but you just do not get it. Hang your head in shame.

Hang your head in shame!? Get out of here.

I drove for 9 years in the South Island, and then 30 years in NSW. Professionally, 9 hours a day. I've never rear-ended anybody nor been rear-ended, because I know and apply the law, keep a safe distance (a genuinely safe distance) and don't get upset with people who brake unexpectedly. Your attitude is all wrong.

Pointless arguments

I'm fairly sure it's possible to safely drive and maintain following distance, yet still find people who stand on their brakes in front of you annoying, while still safely avoiding rear ending them.

People bringing reason to pointless arguments