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Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judiciary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:09 pm
by waguser
A DISTRICT court judge has apologised over a remark she made in court suggesting that social welfare was a Polish charity.

Judge Mary Devins yesterday issued a statement through the Courts Service to clarify a comment made in court in Castlebar last Friday.

The judge made the remark while hearing the case of a trainee plumber over a public order offence in which the man had called an Irish security guard a “fat Polish f***er”.

Enda Moylette, of Derrycoorane, Islandeady, Castlebar, had pleaded guilty when his case was heard several months previously by Judge Conal Gibbons.

Judge Gibbons had adjourned it to a sitting on Friday last after he ordered the man to save up and pay €1,000 to a Polish charity in lieu of a conviction and a fine.


When the question arose at Friday’s court hearing over whether there was a Polish charity in Ireland, Judge Devins remarked: “A Polish charity? There is. It’s called the social welfare.”

Judge Devins issued a statement yesterday after the remarks were reported in some Co Mayo newspapers.

She said that the “recent comment in court was made in the context of – and alluding to – another recent, violent, alcohol-fuelled incident”.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/fro ... 96119.html

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:16 pm
by Flametop
:lol:

There are many worse, probably including ourselves.
Charity states at home.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:17 pm
by waguser
http://www.thejournal.ie/unusual-senten ... 9-Jul2012/

RAPE CRISIS GROUPS have said that the six-month custodial sentence handed down to a sex offender yesterday raises questions about the fairness of the criminal justice system.
Businessman Anthony Lyons had five-and-a-half years of his six-year sentence suspended by Justice Desmond Hogan after being found guilty of sexually attacking a woman near Griffith Avenue in Dublin two years ago.
The judge also ordered the 51-year-old to pay €75,000 in compensation to the victim.
Speaking to Joe Duffy on Liveline after court proceedings, the victim’s aunt Susan said her niece was “so upset” in court. She explained that the idea of compensation in lieu of a harsher sentence had been rejected and that the family were “horrified” by the outcome.
“We thought he was going to prison for six years,” she said. “She doesn’t want money. She never did.”
Dublin Rape Crisis Centre chief executive Ellen O’Malley-Dunlop had a mixed reaction to the case, which her organisation was not directly involved with.
“I would call the sentence unusual,” she said in an interview with TheJournal.ie today. “The six years is not lenient – it is indicative of the seriousness of the crime. But getting him to pay the compensation and suspend the jail time questions the fairness of the system because a resourced person can avoid a custodial sentence by the provision of a large sum of money.”

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:22 pm
by Psychologist
It's clear that the Western justice system is moving back towards a system of weregild.

They should just post prices on the courthouse door.

Murder - $1,000,000 fine
Rape - $500,000
Kidnapping - $300,000
Armed Robbery - $200,000

etc.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:25 pm
by The Sun God
Psychologist wrote:It's clear that the Western justice system is moving back towards a system of weregild.

They should just post prices on the courthouse door.

Murder - $1,000,000 fine
Rape - $500,000
Kidnapping - $300,000
Armed Robbery - $200,000

etc.
If you can't pay the fine, don't do the crime. yeah ?

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:25 pm
by waguser

Property developer Thomas McFeely has avoided a prison term after successfully overturning a contempt of court judgment.

Mr McFeely - an ex-billionaire who was yesterday declared bankrupt in Dublin - has successfully appealed a judgment that he broke court orders, and avoided a three-month sentence and a €1 million fine.

The ruling was delivered in Supreme Court this morning.

Mr McFeely, who served 12 years in the Maze Prison for shooting an RUC officer in Derry, spent 53 days without food during the 1980 hunger strikes.

The latest case centres on Mr McFeely’s Priory Hall development in Donaghmede, north Dublin.

About 300 people were left homeless and had to be re-housed when they were evacuated from the complex last October amid warnings it was fire hazard.

The developer was ordered by the High Court in Dublin to carry out remedial works, but was sentenced and fined when he did not.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:28 pm
by Flametop
waguser wrote:http://www.thejournal.ie/unusual-senten ... 9-Jul2012/

RAPE CRISIS GROUPS have said that the six-month custodial sentence handed down to a sex offender yesterday raises questions about the fairness of the criminal justice system.
Businessman Anthony Lyons had five-and-a-half years of his six-year sentence suspended by Justice Desmond Hogan after being found guilty of sexually attacking a woman near Griffith Avenue in Dublin two years ago.
The judge also ordered the 51-year-old to pay €75,000 in compensation to the victim.
Speaking to Joe Duffy on Liveline after court proceedings, the victim’s aunt Susan said her niece was “so upset” in court. She explained that the idea of compensation in lieu of a harsher sentence had been rejected and that the family were “horrified” by the outcome.
“We thought he was going to prison for six years,” she said. “She doesn’t want money. She never did.”
Dublin Rape Crisis Centre chief executive Ellen O’Malley-Dunlop had a mixed reaction to the case, which her organisation was not directly involved with.
“I would call the sentence unusual,” she said in an interview with TheJournal.ie today. “The six years is not lenient – it is indicative of the seriousness of the crime. But getting him to pay the compensation and suspend the jail time questions the fairness of the system because a resourced person can avoid a custodial sentence by the provision of a large sum of money.”
Six years for sexual assault/rape is lenient.
15 years would be more appropriate.
6 months is just shameful.

It all boils down to money. State does not want to pay for perps to get proper punishment.
Anybody who frauds the state of money. 5 to 20 years.
Anybody who costs the state, suspended sentence.

I wished these judges worked in retail, with the discounts they give the economy who be on its feet in no time.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:31 pm
by Hellraiser
So Wag actually is Joe Duffy then?

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:32 pm
by waguser
Judge who refuses breathalyser escapes with a fine.....

normally it's a ban........

A CIRCUIT Court judge has been fined €600 after he pleaded guilty to failing to comply with a request by a garda to use a breathalyser in Connemara last year.

The Courts Service has confirmed the fine was imposed on Judge James O’Donohue (54) under section 2 of the Road Traffic Act at Clifden District Court last Thursday.

Judge O’Donohue,with an address in Dublin 3, had failed to comply with a request for a breath specimen made by Garda Dean Landers on August 19th, 2011, at Ballyconneely, Clifden, Co Galway.

He was driving a car registered in 2009 at the time.

He was asked for the specimen under section 12 (2) of the 1994 Road Traffic Act, as substituted by section 2 of the 2003 Road Traffic Act and by section 2 of the 2011 Road Traffic Act.

The case came up at Clifden District Court on May 24th and was listed again for mention on Thursday of this week. There were no reporters in court when the case was heard. Judge O’Donohue pleaded guilty and the fine was imposed.

The relevant section of the legislation does not refer to disqualification as a penalty.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:34 pm
by waguser
Who needs to troll when the Judiciary are a parody in and of themselves?

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:36 pm
by Flametop
waguser wrote:Who needs to troll when the Judiciary are a parody in and of themselves?
Just as a matter of interest... Are we breaking some wiggy law by mocking them?
Or calling them corrupt?

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:41 pm
by waguser
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/bre ... ing60.html
A District Court judge claimed she was not guilty today when she was charged by fraud squad detectives with false accounting and theft.

Judge Heather Perrin (60) was appointed to the Dublin District Court bench in February 2009 after practising as a solicitor for 26 years.

Before she was made a judge, she ran a law firm at Fairview Strand, in Dublin 3.

This afternoon, Judge Perrin, who has an address at Lambay Court, Malahide, Dublin, was arrested by detectives from the Garda Bureau of Fraud Investigation.

She was brought before Judge Denis McLoughlin at Dublin District Court and faced two charges under the Theft and Fraud Offences Act.

The first charge states she allegedly stole €4,416 from Gareth Gilroy, between May 1st, 2006 and July 31st 2007.

The second charge alleges that between May 25th, 2004 until February 2nd, 2009, at a location in Dublin, she dishonestly - to make a gain for herself and to cause a loss to another - made use of an account or document which to her knowledge was or could have been misleading, false or deceptive
.

don't worry though I'd say she might get off......

Judges don't convict fellow Judges

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:42 pm
by waguser
Flametop wrote:
waguser wrote:Who needs to troll when the Judiciary are a parody in and of themselves?
Just as a matter of interest... Are we breaking some wiggy law by mocking them?
Or calling them corrupt?
All on record

but they are a law unto themselves

so who knows?

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:43 pm
by danthefan
waguser wrote:http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/bre ... ing60.html
A District Court judge claimed she was not guilty today when she was charged by fraud squad detectives with false accounting and theft.

Judge Heather Perrin (60) was appointed to the Dublin District Court bench in February 2009 after practising as a solicitor for 26 years.

Before she was made a judge, she ran a law firm at Fairview Strand, in Dublin 3.

This afternoon, Judge Perrin, who has an address at Lambay Court, Malahide, Dublin, was arrested by detectives from the Garda Bureau of Fraud Investigation.

She was brought before Judge Denis McLoughlin at Dublin District Court and faced two charges under the Theft and Fraud Offences Act.

The first charge states she allegedly stole €4,416 from Gareth Gilroy, between May 1st, 2006 and July 31st 2007.

The second charge alleges that between May 25th, 2004 until February 2nd, 2009, at a location in Dublin, she dishonestly - to make a gain for herself and to cause a loss to another - made use of an account or document which to her knowledge was or could have been misleading, false or deceptive
.

don't worry though I'd say she might get off......

Judges don't convict fellow Judges
I know what she's alleged to have done here, is it safe to post it or what?

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:46 pm
by waguser
danthefan wrote:
waguser wrote:http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/bre ... ing60.html
A District Court judge claimed she was not guilty today when she was charged by fraud squad detectives with false accounting and theft.

Judge Heather Perrin (60) was appointed to the Dublin District Court bench in February 2009 after practising as a solicitor for 26 years.

Before she was made a judge, she ran a law firm at Fairview Strand, in Dublin 3.

This afternoon, Judge Perrin, who has an address at Lambay Court, Malahide, Dublin, was arrested by detectives from the Garda Bureau of Fraud Investigation.

She was brought before Judge Denis McLoughlin at Dublin District Court and faced two charges under the Theft and Fraud Offences Act.

The first charge states she allegedly stole €4,416 from Gareth Gilroy, between May 1st, 2006 and July 31st 2007.

The second charge alleges that between May 25th, 2004 until February 2nd, 2009, at a location in Dublin, she dishonestly - to make a gain for herself and to cause a loss to another - made use of an account or document which to her knowledge was or could have been misleading, false or deceptive
.

don't worry though I'd say she might get off......

Judges don't convict fellow Judges
I know what she's alleged to have done here, is it safe to post it or what?
based upon my knowledge of the legals system I say
what harm can it do?

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:49 pm
by He Man Rugger Pints
You could post it and delete it after. :thumbup:

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:11 pm
by danthefan
Well the word locally was that when she was a solicitor she got some old couple to leave their house to her kids in their will. Allegedly. I obviously have no idea if it's true.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:12 pm
by waguser
danthefan wrote:Well the word locally was that when she was a solicitor she got some old couple to leave their house to her kids in their will. Allegedly. I obviously have no idea if it's true.
classy bird

Prime judge material

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:13 pm
by Bullettyme
Oh Perrin! I came across this bint whilst working in a large financial institution in Dublin. That is indeed the story Dan. I think she also took loans on other peoples titles, allegedly.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:15 pm
by waguser
And the classiest of em all

judge aquits fellow judge of child porn on technicality

from wikipedia
In May 2002, the Garda Síochána launched Operation Amethyst, a major investigation based on details received from Interpol in August 2001 of Irish credit card transactions made in 1999 to a child-pornography website in Texas.[5] The operation led to numerous arrests and convictions. Detectives executed a search warrant on Curtin's private residence, seized his computer and reported finding 273 child pornographic images on the hard disk. Curtin was charged in January 2003. Following delays due to the judge's ill-health, the trial took place in April 2004. At the trial, Curtin claimed that the search was illegal because it had taken place outside the limit of the 7-day warrant. The Gardaí claimed that the delay was due to Curtin's extended absence from his home and that when it took place at 2:20pm on 27 May 2002, it was still within the 7-day limit.[6][7] The trial judge ruled that the search was illegal. As a result the computer evidence found could not be used. Without that evidence Curtin was found not guilty, the judge declaring that the case was "crystal clear".[8]
They even found a way for him to keep his pension
In November 2006, Judge Curtin resigned from the judiciary on health grounds, ending the investigation. This occurred days before he was to give evidence in private to the committee, and days after he had completed five years on the bench, the minimum sufficient to qualify for a pension.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:15 pm
by globus
I played Royal Portrush during the IRA trials, when there no juries, behind the head honcho.

We never lost a ball as there were so many security men who popped out of the undergrowth and pointed to the long grass, where the ball lay.

A half time whisky with him was a great delight, with my solicitor pal, whom I took over.

He was a very good golfer. I would not have wanted his job for all the tea in China. I would say he was of the highest calibre.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:29 pm
by He Man Rugger Pints
Wouldn't surprise me, there are some serious slimeballs in the legal profession. My mother is an currently acting as an executor to a will and you wouldn't believe the shit that the deceased woman's solicitors got up to. Considerable amounts have just vanished.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:32 pm
by Bullettyme
Where is Holm85 when you need him? :lol:

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:36 pm
by waguser
I love this one

The reward for skipping jail in the greatest fraud case the country has ever seen?

30k per month.

The quinns are laughing through their holes at these clowns

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/fin ... 33168.html
THE HIGH Court has approved the payment of monthly living expenses of just over €30,000 to the five adult children of bankrupt businessman Seán Quinn and three of their spouses.

The court made orders granting the eight Quinn family members various sums in living expenses, ranging from €2,995 for Mr Quinn’s youngest daughter Brenda to €8,184 for Ciara Quinn and her husband Niall McPartland who are unemployed with two children and a third expected.

The expenses were approved as the accounts of family members have been frozen below €50 million as part of legal proceedings taken by the former Anglo Irish Bank, now Irish Bank Resolution Corporation, over the family’s international property empire on which €455 million is owed.

Family members outlined, in affidavits, money spent on groceries, entertainment, fuel, car parking, care of dogs and sandwiches from Subway, their counsel Brian O’Moore SC told the court.

The expenses were signed off to Brenda Quinn, an accounts assistant on an accounts salary of £20,000: €3,743 for Colette Quinn, a married mother of one working with a joinery firm in Co Derry, and €7,775 for Aoife Quinn and her husband, Stephen Kelly.
Remember it's the state is paying these fuckers this money

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:37 pm
by waguser
He Man Rugger Pints wrote:Wouldn't surprise me, there are some serious slimeballs in the legal profession. My mother is an currently acting as an executor to a will and you wouldn't believe the shit that the deceased woman's solicitors got up to. Considerable amounts have just vanished.
Entire profession is riddled with crooks

and they don't even know it's wrong!!!!

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:14 pm
by Duff Paddy
Wag is spot on here unfortunately. These unaccountable politically biased fat cats appear to believe that they are themselves above the law. That mayo judge made overtly bigoted comments about polish people on the record and her supposed explanation - that she was referring to a specific group of Polish people - was frankly laughable. Still, I expect little or no sanction, certainly not in terms of remuneration!

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:17 pm
by Duff Paddy
globus wrote:I played Royal Portrush during the IRA trials, when there no juries, behind the head honcho.

We never lost a ball as there were so many security men who popped out of the undergrowth and pointed to the long grass, where the ball lay.

A half time whisky with him was a great delight, with my solicitor pal, whom I took over.

He was a very good golfer. I would not have wanted his job for all the tea in China. I would say he was of the highest calibre.
Oh ja certainly of the highest calibre - participating in a well documented subversion of democracy and due process to keep the Catholics in their place. Jolly good bloke.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:23 pm
by Waratah
waguser wrote:

Property developer Thomas McFeely has avoided a prison term after successfully overturning a contempt of court judgment.

Mr McFeely - an ex-billionaire who was yesterday declared bankrupt in Dublin - has successfully appealed a judgment that he broke court orders, and avoided a three-month sentence and a €1 million fine.

The ruling was delivered in Supreme Court this morning.

Mr McFeely, who served 12 years in the Maze Prison for shooting an RUC officer in Derry, spent 53 days without food during the 1980 hunger strikes.

The latest case centres on Mr McFeely’s Priory Hall development in Donaghmede, north Dublin.

About 300 people were left homeless and had to be re-housed when they were evacuated from the complex last October amid warnings it was fire hazard.

The developer was ordered by the High Court in Dublin to carry out remedial works, but was sentenced and fined when he did not.
That's quite a CV. From 12 years in prison, to billionaire, to bankrupt. Can't be many of those around.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:26 pm
by Duff Paddy
Waratah wrote:
waguser wrote:

Property developer Thomas McFeely has avoided a prison term after successfully overturning a contempt of court judgment.

Mr McFeely - an ex-billionaire who was yesterday declared bankrupt in Dublin - has successfully appealed a judgment that he broke court orders, and avoided a three-month sentence and a €1 million fine.

The ruling was delivered in Supreme Court this morning.

Mr McFeely, who served 12 years in the Maze Prison for shooting an RUC officer in Derry, spent 53 days without food during the 1980 hunger strikes.

The latest case centres on Mr McFeely’s Priory Hall development in Donaghmede, north Dublin.

About 300 people were left homeless and had to be re-housed when they were evacuated from the complex last October amid warnings it was fire hazard.

The developer was ordered by the High Court in Dublin to carry out remedial works, but was sentenced and fined when he did not.
That's quite a CV. From 12 years in prison, to billionaire, to bankrupt. Can't be many of those around.
Not forgetting allegedly former IRA member who went running to the British courts to declare his British credentials in order to avoid his Irish creditors.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:46 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
This place is riven with jealousy. Just because you lot weren't smart enough to get the points for Law and patriotic enough to take a massive pay cut to become a judge you choose to go all Joe Duffy. :yawn:

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:48 pm
by camroc1
Duff Paddy wrote:
Waratah wrote:
waguser wrote:

Property developer Thomas McFeely has avoided a prison term after successfully overturning a contempt of court judgment.

Mr McFeely - an ex-billionaire who was yesterday declared bankrupt in Dublin - has successfully appealed a judgment that he broke court orders, and avoided a three-month sentence and a €1 million fine.

The ruling was delivered in Supreme Court this morning.

Mr McFeely, who served 12 years in the Maze Prison for shooting an RUC officer in Derry, spent 53 days without food during the 1980 hunger strikes.

The latest case centres on Mr McFeely’s Priory Hall development in Donaghmede, north Dublin.

About 300 people were left homeless and had to be re-housed when they were evacuated from the complex last October amid warnings it was fire hazard.

The developer was ordered by the High Court in Dublin to carry out remedial works, but was sentenced and fined when he did not.
That's quite a CV. From 12 years in prison, to billionaire, to bankrupt. Can't be many of those around.
Not forgetting allegedly former IRA member who went running to the British courts to declare his British credentials in order to avoid his Irish creditors.
He was allegedly bankrolled by IRA money to begin with.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:07 am
by waguser
Blackrock Bullet wrote:This place is riven with jealousy. Just because you lot weren't smart enough to get the points for Law and patriotic enough to take a massive pay cut to become a judge you choose to go all Joe Duffy. :yawn:
You are a fine example of what I refer to

I have no doubt you are what the Irish legal system is looking for and you have a great career as a judge ahead of you.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:26 am
by Wingtastic
waguser wrote:And the classiest of em all

judge aquits fellow judge of child porn on technicality

from wikipedia
In May 2002, the Garda Síochána launched Operation Amethyst, a major investigation based on details received from Interpol in August 2001 of Irish credit card transactions made in 1999 to a child-pornography website in Texas.[5] The operation led to numerous arrests and convictions. Detectives executed a search warrant on Curtin's private residence, seized his computer and reported finding 273 child pornographic images on the hard disk. Curtin was charged in January 2003. Following delays due to the judge's ill-health, the trial took place in April 2004. At the trial, Curtin claimed that the search was illegal because it had taken place outside the limit of the 7-day warrant. The Gardaí claimed that the delay was due to Curtin's extended absence from his home and that when it took place at 2:20pm on 27 May 2002, it was still within the 7-day limit.[6][7] The trial judge ruled that the search was illegal. As a result the computer evidence found could not be used. Without that evidence Curtin was found not guilty, the judge declaring that the case was "crystal clear".[8]
I'll bite on this one. The Gardai acted with an out of date warrant. They have to take responsibility for this one. Curtin's disgusting behaviour is an indictment of him as an individual rather than the judiciary as a whole. While you have valid points elsewhere, I don't feel that this one

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:38 am
by DOB
Wingtastic wrote:
waguser wrote:And the classiest of em all

judge aquits fellow judge of child porn on technicality

from wikipedia
In May 2002, the Garda Síochána launched Operation Amethyst, a major investigation based on details received from Interpol in August 2001 of Irish credit card transactions made in 1999 to a child-pornography website in Texas.[5] The operation led to numerous arrests and convictions. Detectives executed a search warrant on Curtin's private residence, seized his computer and reported finding 273 child pornographic images on the hard disk. Curtin was charged in January 2003. Following delays due to the judge's ill-health, the trial took place in April 2004. At the trial, Curtin claimed that the search was illegal because it had taken place outside the limit of the 7-day warrant. The Gardaí claimed that the delay was due to Curtin's extended absence from his home and that when it took place at 2:20pm on 27 May 2002, it was still within the 7-day limit.[6][7] The trial judge ruled that the search was illegal. As a result the computer evidence found could not be used. Without that evidence Curtin was found not guilty, the judge declaring that the case was "crystal clear".[8]
I'll bite on this one. The Gardai acted with an out of date warrant. They have to take responsibility for this one. Curtin's disgusting behaviour is an indictment of him as an individual rather than the judiciary as a whole. While you have valid points elsewhere, I don't feel that this one
If they know the time of the search down to the nearest 10 minutes, what time was the warrant issued?

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:49 am
by Wingtastic
DOB wrote:
Wingtastic wrote:
waguser wrote:And the classiest of em all

judge aquits fellow judge of child porn on technicality

from wikipedia
In May 2002, the Garda Síochána launched Operation Amethyst, a major investigation based on details received from Interpol in August 2001 of Irish credit card transactions made in 1999 to a child-pornography website in Texas.[5] The operation led to numerous arrests and convictions. Detectives executed a search warrant on Curtin's private residence, seized his computer and reported finding 273 child pornographic images on the hard disk. Curtin was charged in January 2003. Following delays due to the judge's ill-health, the trial took place in April 2004. At the trial, Curtin claimed that the search was illegal because it had taken place outside the limit of the 7-day warrant. The Gardaí claimed that the delay was due to Curtin's extended absence from his home and that when it took place at 2:20pm on 27 May 2002, it was still within the 7-day limit.[6][7] The trial judge ruled that the search was illegal. As a result the computer evidence found could not be used. Without that evidence Curtin was found not guilty, the judge declaring that the case was "crystal clear".[8]
I'll bite on this one. The Gardai acted with an out of date warrant. They have to take responsibility for this one. Curtin's disgusting behaviour is an indictment of him as an individual rather than the judiciary as a whole. While you have valid points elsewhere, I don't feel that this one
If they know the time of the search down to the nearest 10 minutes, what time was the warrant issued?
That source is wikipedia. The search took place 8 days after the warrant was issued. There are different types of warrants and it can be confusing but if the Gardai did any bit of research into this particular warrant or as is more common got a new one issued, there would be no problem. Gardai are used to dealing with solicitors(especially in drink driving cases) picking holes in the smallest things to try to get their client off. Did the guards know that the warrant wasn't gonna hold up in court and were they trying to do a favour for an old buddy? I wonder...

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:52 am
by waguser
this is bullshit

Judges could have ruled anyway they wanted on the validity of the warrant

they chose to let him off

which was convenient

shower of wit kant

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:54 am
by anonymous_joe
How the hell did I miss this thread? :lol:

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:58 am
by Blackrock Bullet
waguser wrote:this is bullshit

Judges could have ruled anyway they wanted on the validity of the warrant

they chose to let him off

which was convenient

shower of wit kant
Been done before and yourself and camroc were proven wrong on that occasion too.

Leave the law to the big boys.

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:20 am
by Wingtastic
Blackrock Bullet wrote:
waguser wrote:this is bullshit

Judges could have ruled anyway they wanted on the validity of the warrant

they chose to let him off

which was convenient

shower of wit kant
Been done before and yourself and camroc were proven wrong on that occasion too.

Leave the law to the big boys.
Where is this coming from? Is Waguser someone who has a personal grievance with a solicitor/judge, is this just a general legal profession rant or is he a freeman or what?

Re: Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judicary

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:22 am
by anonymous_joe
Wingtastic wrote:
Blackrock Bullet wrote:
waguser wrote:this is bullshit

Judges could have ruled anyway they wanted on the validity of the warrant

they chose to let him off

which was convenient

shower of wit kant
Been done before and yourself and camroc were proven wrong on that occasion too.

Leave the law to the big boys.
Where is this coming from? Is Waguser someone who has a personal grievance with a solicitor/judge, is this just a general legal profession rant or is he a freeman or what?
Wag got held down by a gang of men in dark robes and gang raped. Repeatedly.

Then they defiled him with gavels.