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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:39 pm 
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haha I am sure there are a lot of Chelsea fans not happy about that move. How good is Luiz still? I remember him not having a fantastic season last time around. Then again, i do not watch every Chelsea game.


He's a great distance passer. I can see why he'll could be needed at Arsenal who had a home record 2nd only to City but an away record with only 7 wins. Poorer than all other top 6 clubs. Which is why when the powers that be studied the stats they prioritised the need for pacy wingers and players who can lead a counter attack, even over our defensive issues. But we did buy a defender who will be back off loan next season and our defence did look miles better with Rob Holding until he got injured last season. Sokaris, Luiz and Holding are a decent pick if they can gel as defenders. Also Bellerin was quality until his injury last season. Saliba will join the squad next season as a CB and hopefully another quality CB and a upgrade on Xhaka.


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Arsenal's best 'signing' is the return of Holding from injury. Guaranteed Top 4 if he'd remained fit.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:47 am 
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Arsenal's best 'signing' is the return of Holding from injury. Guaranteed Top 4 if he'd remained fit.


Holding was excellent last season, and your defence fell apart when he got injured. Luiz and he or Luiz and Sokaris should be complimentary partnerships, however Holding isn't quite fit yet for the start of the season.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:32 am 
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Considering at the start of the summer we were supposed to only have £40 million to spend, Arsenal didn't do to badly this transfer Window. In fact I can't think of a better one for Arsenal, ever!:

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The MIGHTY CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE REDS winning 4-0 at HT :smug:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:47 pm 
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The MIGHTY CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE REDS winning 4-0 at HT :smug:

Twat.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:51 pm 
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If Alisson has done his Achilles...

Hoping just a calf - but the way he acted. :uhoh:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:50 pm 
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More fantasy football from City, 60m for Cancelo.


TBH they're lagging behind the teams really desperate to buy success. Look at Barcelona!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:28 pm 
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JM2K6 wrote:
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More fantasy football from City, 60m for Cancelo.


TBH they're lagging behind the teams really desperate to buy success. Look at Barcelona!


On that note, the relative riches of the Premiership compared with other European leagues has become a point of contention and they appear to be discussing a what is essentially an European Super League to protect the riches of Europe's elite:

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Enjoy the Premier League while it lasts - the landscape of European football is about to change forever
Plans are advanced at Uefa to transform the Champions League in a way that will impact every level of the English game

Enjoy the Premier League season. It might not be like this for long. The landscape of European football is about to change and when it does the English game will never be the same again.

Plans are advanced at Uefa to transform the Champions League. The revamp will have a massive knock-on effect on the domestic divisions. The present format will continue until 2024 but European football’s governing body will lay out the blueprints next year to allow the television companies in the next bidding cycle to see what is available.

The new configuration will feature 32 teams in four eight-club leagues. How they will be chosen is still yet to be decided. It may be on European pedigree or domestic performance in 2023-24 or a combination of both. So far so reasonable.

The problem comes from what happens next. There will be relegation. The bottom two clubs in each group will drop out. They will be replaced by the semi-finalists from the Europa League and four sides who have registered high-placed finishes in their domestic league. The reality of this is shocking. If this system had been in place in 2015-16 when Leicester City came from nowhere to win the title then Claudio Ranieri’s team would not have automatically earned a Champions League spot. They would have had to play in a pre-qualifying tournament or take up a place in the Europa League.

Manchester United finished fifth in Leicester’s glorious campaign but if they were already in the 32-team Champions League and managed to finish in the top six of their group then they would have retained their place. Domestic achievement will become almost incidental. The integrity of the top flight will be threatened.

The Big Six – United, Manchester City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur – have mixed feelings about the restructure but ultimately understand that being part of the new format would effectively ringfence their place in European football’s most prestigious and lucrative competition. At the Premier League Annual General Meeting in June their representatives gave the impression that they were lukewarm about the future arrangements. The European Clubs Association (ECA) get-together was on the same day and the Big Six delegates left the Premier League meeting early to fly to Malta to sit down with their European counterparts. Only five made it to the Mediterranean island – John W Henry took his own private jet and never arrived at the ECA pow-wow. The English clubs’ opposition to the new proposals was as absent as Liverpool’s principal owner.


Our writers predict how the Premier League season will unfold
The Big Six should be careful. It is likely that only four places will be made available to English teams in the new system. Who would miss out? If the criteria is European heritage, United, Liverpool and Chelsea, as Champions League winners, can make compelling arguments. Arsenal, Spurs and City less so. The change of structure could arrive at a bad time for City, too. They are facing a ban from the Champions League for breaching financial fair play rules. Uefa’s verdict is likely to be announced next month and the Abu Dhabi-owned club have already approached the Court of Arbitration for Sport about a potential appeal. It will be a protracted and ugly legal battle but Uefa could undermine City’s credentials to be included in the new setup with any prolonged ban.

Do the fans want the changes? Their voices have not been heard and there is unlikely to be any real consultation. Cash is at the dark heart of this plan. Domestic TV rights holders like Sky and BT Sport are often vilified but they at least understand the value of the Premier League and the traditional rivalries that enhance English football. The next generation of broadcasters – Uefa and the clubs hope that will include the likes of Netflix and Amazon – are more likely to be swayed by the prospect of showing Liverpool vs Bayern Munich or another continental giant than the European Champions versus Norwich City on a Friday night. They are eyeing a global audience and have no time for parochial matters that lack star quality.

In some ways the Premier League have brought this on themselves. The English top flight is bloated with money. Only Barcelona, Real Madrid, Paris Saint-Germain and Bayern can outspend even middle-ranking Premier League clubs. Uefa can look at their new system and claim it will breathe life into teams like Ajax, Celtic and Benfica, who have all fallen behind financially despite their fabulous history. The Premier League is despised and feared across swathes of Europe and English clubs should not expect too much sympathy if the television money departs and moves towards continental competition instead.


The nightmare scenario is that the new Champions League gobbles up a huge amount of resources and four of England’s biggest attractions lose interest in the domestic game and concentrate on Europe. The domino effect will sweep down the divisions and could threaten the existence of a number of clubs. Championship teams overspending in search of reaching the gilded world of the Premier League could find themselves in the top flight just as the game’s riches move elsewhere. All that will remain are the debts.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:40 pm 
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Norwich #12 Jamal Lewis - utterly comical defending against VvD.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:32 am 
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Sefton wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
The MIGHTY CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE REDS winning 4-0 at HT :smug:

Twat.

Norwich looked very good going forward too. Tidy up that defence and they are a handy side this season.

Caused more problems than Barcelona did at Anfield. :blush:


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City look decent but it wont be enough to stop the MIGHTY EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS :smug:


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Alex Scott trending on twitter. Naturally lots of dull apologists claiming it's sexism but she did say "Messi wouldn't make this Man City team". If you speak shite you will be called out. Her defenders claiming other pundits don't trend but Carragher trended yesterday evening :lol:.

Now I used to defend Alex Scott a lot, she started strongly ad a pundit, but in the past 6 months her quality of commentary and analysis has gone out the window, she acts like a giggling cheerleader in the world cup and stopped actually analysing the games and is now meh.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:57 pm 
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Maguire is a fantastic signing for united with AWB.

He’s been brilliant.


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Put them to the sword United


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Wendigo7 wrote:
Maguire is a fantastic signing for united with AWB.

He’s been brilliant.

Yep he’s won everything
Lindelof looks calmer beside him
AWB looks a bargain

Still issues in midfield but sorting out the defence is a start


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:35 pm 
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Winnie wrote:
Wendigo7 wrote:
Maguire is a fantastic signing for united with AWB.

He’s been brilliant.

Yep he’s won everything
Lindelof looks calmer beside him
AWB looks a bargain

Still issues in midfield but sorting out the defence is a start

Maguire man of the match.

I still think he’s the 2nd best defender on the planet behind Van Dijk.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:43 pm 
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Gary Linkeker on Twitter:
This is definitely @ManUtd's best performance with Mourinho at Old Trafford

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Wendigo7 wrote:
Winnie wrote:
Wendigo7 wrote:
Maguire is a fantastic signing for united with AWB.

He’s been brilliant.

Yep he’s won everything
Lindelof looks calmer beside him
AWB looks a bargain

Still issues in midfield but sorting out the defence is a start

Maguire man of the match.

I still think he’s the 2nd best defender on the planet behind Van Dijk.


Christ alive


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Wendigo7 wrote:
Winnie wrote:
Wendigo7 wrote:
Maguire is a fantastic signing for united with AWB.

He’s been brilliant.

Yep he’s won everything
Lindelof looks calmer beside him
AWB looks a bargain

Still issues in midfield but sorting out the defence is a start

Maguire man of the match.

I still think he’s the 2nd best defender on the planet behind Van Dijk.

Well wtf can I say...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:38 am 
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Nothing like reality to destroy any hopes you had.

Although adding another slow center back to a defence not exactly renowned for pace is hardly like to end well, is it?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:06 am 
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My son visited Old Trafford on sunday. Sent me some pictures. Was quite a experience would have love to watch it with him.


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Coutinho to Bayern on loan, no fee but paying his full wages apparently, is the latest rumour.

They do need attackers given Robben, Ribery and Rodriguez have gone but they have just signed Perisic.

Also doesn't deal with the money Barca need to pay for Neymar, just gets him off the books.


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OomPB wrote:
My son visited Old Trafford on sunday. Sent me some pictures. Was quite a experience would have love to watch it with him.


Went there last about 15 years ago. Felt it was a stadium built in several stages that didn't look so great on the inside - a bit clumsy.


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celtic beaten at home, out of the Champions League


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celtic beaten at home, out of the Champions League

FC Porto don't make it... lose to Krasnadar!!

Dynamo Kiev don't go through and PAOK very nearly knock Ajax out of the champs league too.


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celtic beaten at home, out of the Champions League

FC Porto don't make it... lose to Krasnadar!!

Dynamo Kiev don't go through and PAOK very nearly knock Ajax out of the champs league too.

Yeah only lost 3-1 to Ajax, a team that has lost 4 key players


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:51 pm 
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OomPB wrote:
My son visited Old Trafford on sunday. Sent me some pictures. Was quite a experience would have love to watch it with him.


A crumbling stadium apparently. On its last legs.


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Great result for Linfield!


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LandOTurk wrote:
OomPB wrote:
My son visited Old Trafford on sunday. Sent me some pictures. Was quite a experience would have love to watch it with him.


Went there last about 15 years ago. Felt it was a stadium built in several stages that didn't look so great on the inside - a bit clumsy.


It's a stadium which feels much smaller than it actually is. Capacity is the same as the Principality Stadium but it feels about 20K seats fewer.


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I've not been to Old Trafford but apparently they spent £20 million in the summer on improving the stadium.


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nardol wrote:
Wendigo7 wrote:
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celtic beaten at home, out of the Champions League

FC Porto don't make it... lose to Krasnadar!!

Dynamo Kiev don't go through and PAOK very nearly knock Ajax out of the champs league too.

Yeah only lost 3-1 to Ajax, a team that has lost 4 key players


While I agreed with the decisions three penalties for Ajax will have had the PAOK fans going apoplectic. The ref got some serious grief at the end from the PAOK players


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Who else is looking forward to watching the world famous EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS LIVERPOOL FC easily destroy Chelsea? 8)


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Who else is looking forward to watching the world famous EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS LIVERPOOL FC easily destroy Chelsea? 8)

Sefton has gone full Anon.

I want my money bitch.


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Sun Tzu wrote:
Who else is looking forward to watching the world famous EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS LIVERPOOL FC easily destroy Chelsea? 8)

Is that starting in the second half?


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JB1981 wrote:
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Who else is looking forward to watching the world famous EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS LIVERPOOL FC easily destroy Chelsea? 8)

Is that starting in the second half?


YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT


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Chelsea on top in the centre of the park.

Ref is having a very good game. Not falling for the diving.


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Terrible goalkeeping even worse decision.


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Ah, that's a shame. Still haven't seen Abraham actually score a goal - think he's a bit of a Kezman.

I suspect this'll be the story of the season, good but not quite good enough. Great to have Kante back though. Well done Liverpool, can't get much closer than that.


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Obviously the conditions meant the Mighty Reds took it easy on Chelsea tonight but a win is a win.


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