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Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:51 pm
by warriors
Jim Lahey wrote:City will go out and spend another hundred million on new players on the basis of that draw!

When do these financial fair play laws come in by the way?
next season iirc?

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:55 pm
by tanu
warriors wrote:Bendtner is not an improvement on what Juve have already. Poor signing.
he is our 5th striker, good enough for that job

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:58 pm
by Deadtigers
AND-y wrote:Group A: Porto, Dynamo Kiev, Paris St Germain, Dinamo Zagreb.

Group B: Arsenal, Schalke, Olympiakos, Montpellier.

Group C: AC Milan, Zenit St Petersburg, Anderlecht, Malaga.

Group D: Real Madrid, Manchester City, Ajax, Borussia Dortmund.

Group E: Chelsea, Shakhtar Donetsk, Juventus, FC Nordsjaelland.

Group F: Bayern Munich, Valencia, Lille, BATE Borisov.

Group G: Barcelona, Benfica, Spartak Moscow, Celtic.

Group H: Manchester United, Braga, Galatasaray, CFR Cluj.
If I had to bet.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:59 pm
by tanu
Crawford. wrote:Spanish, English, Dutch and German champions all in the same group. :lol: :shock:
I dont think they could have picked a hardest group

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:03 pm
by Deadtigers
tanu wrote:
Crawford. wrote:Spanish, English, Dutch and German champions all in the same group. :lol: :shock:
I dont think they could have picked a hardest group
If you replace Ajax with Juve then you have the Champions of the 4 top leagues. that is a murderers row. The two teams that come out should be more than battle ready for the knockout stages or have nothing left in the tank.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:07 pm
by warriors
I think City will beat Madrid at the Etihad.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:08 pm
by Smee
Barcas group is so so, MU with the pissweak group. Surely they cant fudge it up 2 years in a row.

Citys as everyone has said is the GOD, insanely tough.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:29 pm
by anonymous_joe
In your face City.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:25 pm
by warriors
Pepe the Clown!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAOGd0Un ... page#t=26s


Second match in a row now he's made a complete howler. Dodgy keeper.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:33 pm
by Doc Rob
warriors wrote:Pepe the Clown!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAOGd0Un ... page#t=26s


Second match in a row now he's made a complete howler. Dodgy keeper.
He's not the first keeper to spill a ball struck that hard, and he won't be the last. He's unlucky that it went in, but then Hearts were savagely unlucky last week to concede a late OG. The cross was overhit, beat the Liverpool forward, bounced off Webster and in. Nothing he could do to stop it.

I'm gutted now. We don't have a pot to piss in, and yet we've matched Liverpool over two legs. If it hadn't been for that bloody OG, we'd be in the groups now. And Liverpool had their first team out tonight.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:03 pm
by tanu
tanu wrote:
warriors wrote:Bendtner is not an improvement on what Juve have already. Poor signing.
he is our 5th striker, good enough for that job
Apparently today he asked for the shirt number 10 :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The shirt that belonged to Platini, Zidane, Baggio and Del Piero :lol: :lol: :lol:
Guy comes in as a leftover to fill in the place of 5th striker and claims the number 10: gutsy or with a great sense of humour.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:05 pm
by earl the beaver
tanu wrote:
tanu wrote:
warriors wrote:Bendtner is not an improvement on what Juve have already. Poor signing.
he is our 5th striker, good enough for that job
Apparently today he asked for the shirt number 10 :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The shirt that belonged to Platini, Zidane, Baggio and Del Piero :lol: :lol: :lol:
Guy comes in as a leftover to fill in the place of 5th striker and claims the number 10: gutsy or with a great sense of humour.
He thinks he's the second best player behind Messi in the world today.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:41 pm
by tanu
earl the beaver wrote: He thinks he's the second best player behind Messi in the world today.
Conte will take good care of his ego

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:35 pm
by Deadtigers
tanu wrote:
tanu wrote:
warriors wrote:Bendtner is not an improvement on what Juve have already. Poor signing.
he is our 5th striker, good enough for that job
Apparently today he asked for the shirt number 10 :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The shirt that belonged to Platini, Zidane, Baggio and Del Piero :lol: :lol: :lol:
Guy comes in as a leftover to fill in the place of 5th striker and claims the number 10: gutsy or with a great sense of humour.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Funniest shite I read all day.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:10 pm
by warriors
Falcao is a beast.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:22 pm
by Akkerman
Chelsea are dire :?

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:31 pm
by Akkerman
3-0 Falcao :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:34 pm
by anonymous_joe
Good to see Chelski struggle.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:03 pm
by tanu
anonymous_joe wrote:Good to see Chelski struggle.
mhhhh ... hopefully they'll play this crap in two weeks time ...

ps: honestly, Juve will put 5 or 6 in the net of this Chelsea

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:05 pm
by warriors
I know this is only a 'friendly' cup but this is horrifically embarrassing for Chelsea.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:08 pm
by tanu
warriors wrote:I know this is only a 'friendly' cup but this is horrifically embarrassing for Chelsea.
they are threatening Juve's 9-2 vs PSG ....

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:19 pm
by tanu
c69 wrote:
tanu wrote:
warriors wrote:I know this is only a 'friendly' cup but this is horrifically embarrassing for Chelsea.
they are threatening Juve's 9-2 vs PSG ....
no
was joking, still bitter about the pisspreys?

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:20 pm
by Smee
Makes a mockery of Deadtigers constant claim that there is no depth of quality in La Liga.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:27 pm
by warriors
Smee wrote:Makes a mockery of Deadtigers constant claim that there is no depth of quality in La Liga.
In fairness Chelsea are only the sixth best team in England as per last years league table.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:28 pm
by Conspicuous
Smee wrote:Makes a mockery of Deadtigers constant claim that there is no depth of quality in La Liga.
It doesnt really. A mickey mouse friendly game likes this doesnt prove or make a mockery of anything. I would still concur that La Liga lacks depth

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:29 pm
by tanu
warriors wrote:
Smee wrote:Makes a mockery of Deadtigers constant claim that there is no depth of quality in La Liga.
In fairness Chelsea are only the sixth best team in England as per last years league table.
they are the european champions ....

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:31 pm
by earl the beaver
warriors wrote:
Smee wrote:Makes a mockery of Deadtigers constant claim that there is no depth of quality in La Liga.
In fairness Chelsea are only the sixth best team in England as per last years league table.
I've been reliably informed by Bill and others that Chelsea are the best side in Europe.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:44 pm
by Smee
warriors wrote:
Smee wrote:Makes a mockery of Deadtigers constant claim that there is no depth of quality in La Liga.
In fairness Chelsea are only the sixth best team in England as per last years league table.
They are 3/3 this season though which is a more relevant measure.
It doesnt really. A mickey mouse friendly game likes this doesnt prove or make a mockery of anything. I would still concur that La Liga lacks depth
Well you'd be utterly wrong. Spain's 2nd tier elite sides are better than their English counterparts. Europa League performances of the last decade confirm this.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:51 pm
by TheBouncer
Smee wrote:Europa League performances of the last decade confirm this.

No, they really don't..

The disdain with which Spurs treated it last year was testament to the English sides' indifference to the tournament. Check out the side Newcastle put out recently for it.

It's hard to gauge the respective levels of the two middle orders but one things for sure, the Europa league is little use as a measure.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:56 pm
by Smee
TheBouncer wrote:
Smee wrote:Europa League performances of the last decade confirm this.

No, they really don't..

The disdain with which Spurs treated it last year was testament to the English sides' indifference to the tournament. Check out the side Newcastle put out recently for it.

It's hard to gauge the respective levels of the two middle orders but one things for sure, the Europa league is little use as a measure.
The excuses made for the EPL are just pathetic.

Spanish team beat English team in the Super Cup = Its just a Mickey Mouse friendly

Spanish teams win shitloads of Europa Leagues = The English sides don't take it seriously

Barca manshame United in the Champions League final TWICE = Spain is just a 2 team league.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:02 pm
by TheBouncer
Smee wrote:
TheBouncer wrote:
Smee wrote:Europa League performances of the last decade confirm this.

No, they really don't..

The disdain with which Spurs treated it last year was testament to the English sides' indifference to the tournament. Check out the side Newcastle put out recently for it.

It's hard to gauge the respective levels of the two middle orders but one things for sure, the Europa league is little use as a measure.
The excuses made for the EPL are just pathetic.

Spanish team beat English team in the Super Cup = Its just a Mickey Mouse friendly

Spanish teams win shitloads of Europa Leagues = The English sides don't take it seriously

Barca manshame United in the Champions League final TWICE = Spain is just a 2 team league.


Good man..

So now I'm representing the EPL. I don't even support a side in it.

Now are you going to argue my point or pick a few more strawmen which I never addressed.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:24 pm
by Anonymous
warriors wrote:
Smee wrote:Makes a mockery of Deadtigers constant claim that there is no depth of quality in La Liga.
In fairness Chelsea are only the sixth best team in England as per last years league table.
In fairness Chelsea broke up that team but that was virtually their first choice defence.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:32 pm
by rugbot 2.0
Knackerball

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:16 pm
by warriors
Smee wrote:
TheBouncer wrote:
Smee wrote:Europa League performances of the last decade confirm this.

No, they really don't..

The disdain with which Spurs treated it last year was testament to the English sides' indifference to the tournament. Check out the side Newcastle put out recently for it.

It's hard to gauge the respective levels of the two middle orders but one things for sure, the Europa league is little use as a measure.
The excuses made for the EPL are just pathetic.

Spanish team beat English team in the Super Cup = Its just a Mickey Mouse friendly
It's as worthy as the Community Shield, DFB-Supercup, Supercoppa Italiana etc. Nice to win but losing won't leave you shaking with rage.

Spanish teams win shitloads of Europa Leagues = The English sides don't take it seriously
Which is right and obvious.

Barca manshame United in the Champions League final TWICE = Spain is just a 2 team league.
excuse?
I'd rather be watching the Bundesliga than either of those two leagues but that is a silly post. Compare the performances of Spanish and English sides in the CL. If it wasn't for Barcelona Spain's record in the CL would be very poor indeed over the past 8 years in contrast to the Premier League sides.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:03 am
by Smee
warriors wrote: Spanish teams win shitloads of Europa Leagues = The English sides don't take it seriously
Which is right and obvious.
Fulham (your team, allegedly) got to the Final two years ago. Are you saying they didn't take the competition seriously?

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:45 am
by Anonymous
Smee wrote:
warriors wrote: Spanish teams win shitloads of Europa Leagues = The English sides don't take it seriously
Which is right and obvious.
Fulham (your team, allegedly) got to the Final two years ago. Are you saying they didn't take the competition seriously?
All teams prioritise and unless you are going to be a mid table side and have a decent size squad the Europa league is going to be down the agenda. Most side who make that comp are trying to get into the CL the following season. That was not the case with Fulham.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:39 am
by Smee
Anonymous wrote:
Smee wrote:
warriors wrote: Spanish teams win shitloads of Europa Leagues = The English sides don't take it seriously
Which is right and obvious.
Fulham (your team, allegedly) got to the Final two years ago. Are you saying they didn't take the competition seriously?
All teams prioritise and unless you are going to be a mid table side and have a decent size squad the Europa league is going to be down the agenda. Most side who make that comp are trying to get into the CL the following season. That was not the case with Fulham.
Spanish clubs are in the exact same boat, La Liga sides also want the cachet and the loot that comes with playing Champions League football.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:40 am
by Deadtigers
Smee wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Smee wrote:
warriors wrote: Spanish teams win shitloads of Europa Leagues = The English sides don't take it seriously
Which is right and obvious.
Fulham (your team, allegedly) got to the Final two years ago. Are you saying they didn't take the competition seriously?
All teams prioritise and unless you are going to be a mid table side and have a decent size squad the Europa league is going to be down the agenda. Most side who make that comp are trying to get into the CL the following season. That was not the case with Fulham.
Spanish clubs are in the exact same boat, La Liga sides also want the cachet and the loot that comes with playing Champions League football.
That is why they take it more seriously, you ain't finishing better than 3rd in SPL Espana. Some Charity cup is your straw ok. I will find the stats, but I bet you if you take away, Spain's Big 2 and EPL's Big 2 (Man U and Arse) over the last 5-10 years what are the CL record of the league teams??

Even City didn't give a damn about it. Fulham but Europa up there because they were quickly out of the FA Cup, no one but Championship level teams care about the Carling cup, so they only had to fight a war on two fronts and they were in the top half of the table most of the EPL season so they made a go for Europe. I can assure you, if their EPL position started plummeting fast they would have not given a shite about Europa.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:16 am
by Smee
Usual run of the mill drivel about La Liga from you Deadtigers, I take it you didn't watch Chelsea get ripped to shreds by Atl Madrid then? The tragic thing about your point of view is that you actually think there is something laudable/acceptable about teams not taking competitions they enter into seriously. The normalisation of teams putting out second string/youth sides in lieu of first teams has done nothing but undermine the integrity of the game. Moreover its disrepectful to the fans, to the shirt and to the sport itself. The ultimate manifestation of this anti sporting culture is Arsenal - who never actually win any trophies but make a tidy profit qualifying for the Champions League every year. Hey, who cares? Winning is overrated, right?

Whens all said and done the head to head record in ALL European competition over the past 5 years proves the dominance of La Liga, in 15 Anglo-Spanish ties Spanish clubs hold a 10-5 advantage over their English counterparts. The ball don't lie.

Re: The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thre

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:53 am
by Anonymous
Smee wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Smee wrote:
warriors wrote: Spanish teams win shitloads of Europa Leagues = The English sides don't take it seriously
Which is right and obvious.
Fulham (your team, allegedly) got to the Final two years ago. Are you saying they didn't take the competition seriously?
All teams prioritise and unless you are going to be a mid table side and have a decent size squad the Europa league is going to be down the agenda. Most side who make that comp are trying to get into the CL the following season. That was not the case with Fulham.
Spanish clubs are in the exact same boat, La Liga sides also want the cachet and the loot that comes with playing Champions League football.
Well I didn't say premiership teams did I. I said all teams