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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:21 pm 
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Masterji wrote:
So now someone like Para will become an annoying selection over Dupont whereas with Noves it was Doussin.


Erm. Do read your post again. Whether broadly or whatever, you're actually comparing Jean-Marc Doussain to Parra, the reigning champ and starting 9 for ASM Clermont. Doussain can't put himself in the same company as a Jules Plisson.
Parra is currently the best scrummie in France, Dupont may be more of an impact individually as a pure out and out Rugby player, but watch a "slow Parra" conduct his team Clermont's attack perfectly sticking to the ball like glue. He's also a boss from the tee and an excellent defender, not to mention one of the rare in the nation to have tactical kicking worth a fk. So Dupont's easier to pick for a highlight video than a Morgan Parra, but he's still a rookie and has proven nothing yet. He'll beat 10 defenders/game and make the no.1 play of the week, but it's yet to be seen as a halfback he can lead a team to victory. The same cannot be said about Morgan Parra who reaaalllly should have at least one European Cup in his cupboard by now but anyways.


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I dont watch Parra play for Clermont but for Fr he was shiit. Slow and plodding in most games whereas Dupont looks the real deal.


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Its complicated for "tactical scrumhalves" to look good when they don't have a game plan to work off. Dupont certainly looks good sniping at the fringes.


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In the modern game speed is the name of the game-slow, plodding SH's taking an age to get from breakdown to another has long gone. The only tactics needed is to get to the ball quickly and release it to the right players to catch out a disorganised defence. Parra maybe good at club level but at the international he was shiit.


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Masterji wrote:
In the modern game speed is the name of the game-slow, plodding SH's taking an age to get from breakdown to another has long gone. The only tactics needed is to get to the ball quickly and release it to the right players to catch out a disorganised defence. Parra maybe good at club level but at the international he was shiit.

I'm quite sure he just answered that specific point right above your message...

Brunel, Bruno, Galthié. Y'all ready for this ride folks ?


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Azéma and collazo apparently rejected Laporte offer.

Galthier bruno bonnaire for assistant.

No clue where Bonnaire was coaching till now


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:13 pm 
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gathlie c'est pas genre une pire crevure humainement ? ... ca va etre drole.

sinon, laporte - noves c'etait pas dejà prevu depuis le debut ce truc, genre ?
J'veux dire, il voulait pas se payer noves quoi qu'il en soit depuis toujours ?

marrant quand meme, pour un mec qui a été le seul a voir 8 ans pour faire moins bien que avant lui, et apres lui (finales), et ce, avec un coupe du monde à la maison foirée en tout beauté.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:31 pm 
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What a joke this Laporte. As if sacking the Coaching team will solve the structural problems facing French rugby. It will at least make some people happy I guess.

Of course, it won't.

This is akin to entering F1 with a Fiat Panda and then having it driven by a blind, octogenarian.

Getting rid of the driver won't fix the car but might at least mean you don't hit the crash barrier at the first corner every race.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:32 pm 
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I dont watch Parra play for Clermont but for Fr he was shiit. Slow and plodding in most games whereas Dupont looks the real deal.

Yes to all that. + Parra is a prick of a person.


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I predict this for now:
- mild but noticeable improvement in both the Rugby played on the field and the results - which of course is no mean feat to accomplish, I'm not being a sexy bitch I mean seriously it is NOT difficult to achieve better with the France player pool than zero attacking shape over 80min and losing every match vs Tier 1 opposition by 20 and then a draw vs Japan at home.
- players find a bit of motivation back and are so glad the previous nightmare is over they look forward to start anew, show good spirit and motivation.

Galthié is a pretty weak coach compared to the best out there, but he's going to bring some kind of input to the team. Dubois and Lagisquet had the presence and impact of a used toothpick on the team. He's got a notion Galthié of where modern Rugby's at, despite being more talk rather than acting (being typically French, naturally). I think being on the bigger stage might boost his ego to where he needs to look good in the eye of the public and will really try hard. *Perhaps* - and this is just hoping (!!) - he'll be a tad more at ease focusing entirely on the attacking/technical aspect and bearing a lesser responsibility than headcoach as in Toulon atm..


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Its complicated for "tactical scrumhalves" to look good when they don't have a game plan to work off. Dupont certainly looks good sniping at the fringes.




More like they make it complicated by turning reasonably quick ball in to slow ball so their runners carry in to a realigned defensive line.


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For what it's worth (!), this is the interesting moment in the Top 14 season. We're officially in January, new year's started and all teams have played a majority 14 games each, and therefor the "phase retour" is about to start.

Gentlemen, the table is as follows:

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As vous pouvez constatate, La Rochelle and Montpellier are the two dominant entities, then Castres a bit surprisingly, Racing is wisely sticking around with their 4th and Toulon and Toulouse hog those easy final two spots. Early season sensation Lyon have been kicked out of the lounge, now at 7th. then UBB, Pau, Clermont, Paris and Brive..

The remodeling of that map at this particular junction is a very sensitive period of the season: who ends up in your final 6 ?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:24 pm 
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Happy new year you useless feckers.

Here's to the obvious glory that Brunel (?!) is going to bring us in Le Tournoi. :lol:


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Toulon's Not Toulouse wrote:
Happy new year you useless feckers.

Here's to the obvious glory that Brunel (?!) is going to bring us in Le Tournoi. :lol:

:lol:



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:26 pm 
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Yes I'm looking forward to France getting 5th place and being just about as bad on the field if not slightly better than under Noves, and the good people of the country feeling all glad and mighty promoting their eternal protégé braying "see, that didn't change anything !" as if to basically justify Noves was really without reproach or could somehow be associated with efficiency of a sort.

There's often a difficulty in this country to understand the mere notion there can be bad and then worse, people feel the absolute need to pick a side and then hang onto that, a systematic insistence to force a Manichean scheme right onto the frame of reality: there's good and evil. Right now Noves is Good and Laporte and his gang are Evil, there are no in-betweens and Laporte is the money-grabber, Noves and staff for example were of course paid in peaches and cashew nuts as everybody knows, and it's not like Laporte just got this God-forsaken land the next fukking Rugby World Cup just like a month ago.


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lets see if Vakatawa gets picked by the new coach as a centre instead of a winger, i rate Thomas as a better winger, partnering yoann huget on the wings...


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lets see if Vakatawa gets picked by the new coach as a centre instead of a winger, i rate Thomas as a better winger, partnering yoann huget on the wings...

you know fùck all about rugby


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lets see if Vakatawa gets picked by the new coach as a centre instead of a winger, i rate Thomas as a better winger, partnering yoann huget on the wings...

you know fùck all about rugby

We should make him the new coach.


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As far as I'm concerned, kicking Noves out mid-term to throw Brunel (and let's not forget Ellisalde for the backs...) in his place is just stupidly controversial, costly, and ultimately more of the same. I could forgive the first two if it wasn't for the third, but as is, it seems self-defeating: the hopes of any meaningful improvement are slim, but the impact on Bernie's already tainted leadership seems disproportionately heavy. Imho, if he wanted to change things at the top of the french XV, he should have spent the next two years tapping up the best coaches around and identified 3/4 candidates for after the WC.


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The staff move is just whatever. Absolute whatever. The tournament will be more a social event than a Rugby event in the country, closer to something like the Trump v H.Clinton prez race so with more emphasis from the people on personal egos and earning the right to say "I told you so !" than actually worrying about the very stake, i.e. the xv de France and potential progress. It'll be a highly politicized event, practically not a sporting event.
It will be a France 6N about hyperbolic scrutiny, about scorn and ultimately, about frustration.


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So... No more summer training camps at Marcoussis and no more "elite list"...

Typical.
Try something half heartedly, realise it isn't going to bring miraculous results and then ditch it.

That is this country in a nutshell.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:42 pm 
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Salut les filles!

Happy new year to you all buggers.

The FFR is a joke and now we have Brunel instead of Noves. Much improved roster... :roll:

The sad news as well is that Young French players get hammered on the Top14 pitch, and some almost got slaughtered. The Clermont trip to Paris shows the gap between Top14 and our Espoir championship...


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So... No more summer training camps at Marcoussis and no more "elite list"...

Typical.
Try something half heartedly, realise it isn't going to bring miraculous results and then ditch it.

That is this country in a nutshell.

:nod:

Classic example of copying what everyone else is doing but not understanding it and so executing it half-arsed and then being surprised at the outcome. Marcoussis, rather than a training centre for pushing boundaries sporting excellence, simply became a rugby Butlins and so did the opposite.


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Imagine if, just imagine like - if somehow, like it really doesn't matter how exactly - France win .. the Grand Slam. Bam. They actually win the Slam. I swear I'd be too busy trying to survive the continuous hysterical laughing to really feel utterly happy. I so wish it would happen. Like, they can go on and lose the next three summer tests by 70 each, I'm cool with that, but a 2018 Grand Slam.


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Torquemada 1420 wrote:
clementinfrance wrote:
So... No more summer training camps at Marcoussis and no more "elite list"...

Typical.
Try something half heartedly, realise it isn't going to bring miraculous results and then ditch it.

That is this country in a nutshell.

:nod:

Classic example of copying what everyone else is doing but not understanding it and so executing it half-arsed and then being surprised at the outcome. Marcoussis, rather than a training centre for pushing boundaries sporting excellence, simply became a rugby Butlins and so did the opposite.


ouais mais les gars, zavez été trop longtemps expats chez les rosbifs pour vous souvenir, mais nous on est des romantiques, des instinctifs, on aime le beau, pas les feuilles excel, pas les retroplannings, pas la branletteOnly pendant la coupe du monde. Du coup, ça peut pas marcher tout ça.

Ce qu'il nous faut vraiment c'est du téton qui pointe sous une blouse d'infirmière dans un petit matin d'été sous un soleil levant. C'est ça qu'il faut au XV de France. Le reste, c'est de la jelly.


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Ce qu'il nous faut vraiment c'est du téton qui pointe sous une blouse d'infirmière dans un petit matin d'été sous un soleil levant.

I'm going to cling to that image for a long time.


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Le printemps revient bien vite (Jo est en rut ;) )

L'équipe semble vouloir la tête de laporte :lol:

https://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Article/So ... ond/865610


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Laurent wrote:
Le printemps revient bien vite (Jo est en rut ;) )

L'équipe semble vouloir la tête de laporte :lol:

https://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Article/So ... ond/865610


Can't read past the paywall but I saw a new one this morning: apparently Bernie is handing over a FFR car to a player from RCT (Ory) with whom he's got a local business. That's illegal since the insurance only covers FFR staff. The player denies it, but the car is regularly seen at the RCT training grounds, and the lad is apparently dumb enough to have lots of pictures of it on his Instagram account...

But even better, that's a player for whom he personally intervened in the Nat.B playoffs last year to allow him to play despite the proper license not being presented pre-match:
http://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/rugby/ffr-une ... 48391.html

He simply can't help himself. :lol:


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Toulon's Not Toulouse wrote:
Laurent wrote:
Le printemps revient bien vite (Jo est en rut ;) )

L'équipe semble vouloir la tête de laporte :lol:

https://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Article/So ... ond/865610


Can't read past the paywall but I saw a new one this morning: apparently Bernie is handing over a FFR car to a player from RCT (Ory) with whom he's got a local business. That's illegal since the insurance only covers FFR staff. The player denies it, but the car is regularly seen at the RCT training grounds, and the lad is apparently dumb enough to have lots of pictures of it on his Instagram account...

But even better, that's a player for whom he personally intervened in the Nat.B playoffs last year to allow him to play despite the proper license not being presented pre-match:
http://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/rugby/ffr-une ... 48391.html

He simply can't help himself. :lol:

yep Sarko was perfect match for him :lol:


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The silence of Laura Flessel, our Ministre des Sports, in those matters is deafening...


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Toulon's Not Toulouse wrote:
Laurent wrote:
Le printemps revient bien vite (Jo est en rut ;) )

L'équipe semble vouloir la tête de laporte :lol:

https://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Article/So ... ond/865610


Can't read past the paywall but I saw a new one this morning: apparently Bernie is handing over a FFR car to a player from RCT (Ory) with whom he's got a local business. That's illegal since the insurance only covers FFR staff. The player denies it, but the car is regularly seen at the RCT training grounds, and the lad is apparently dumb enough to have lots of pictures of it on his Instagram account...

But even better, that's a player for whom he personally intervened in the Nat.B playoffs last year to allow him to play despite the proper license not being presented pre-match:
http://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/rugby/ffr-une ... 48391.html

He simply can't help himself. :lol:

Mackay is not an idiot. It's a measure of how immune he is from rugby or judicial authority that he can do what he likes.


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Ptain, Frédéric Forte est mort :? :(

crise cardiaque il semblerait... ptain après tout le sport qu'il a fait... pas de bol quand même


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Ptain, Frédéric Forte est mort :? :(

crise cardiaque il semblerait... ptain après tout le sport qu'il a fait... pas de bol quand même

tu es un redrebel multi ?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:12 pm 
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Laurent wrote:
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Ptain, Frédéric Forte est mort :? :(

crise cardiaque il semblerait... ptain après tout le sport qu'il a fait... pas de bol quand même

tu es un redrebel multi ?


putain... j'suis pas un expat qui passe son temps à mater les news et à jouer au solitaire moi !

:P


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jolindien wrote:
Laurent wrote:
jolindien wrote:
Ptain, Frédéric Forte est mort :? :(

crise cardiaque il semblerait... ptain après tout le sport qu'il a fait... pas de bol quand même

tu es un redrebel multi ?


putain... j'suis pas un expat qui passe son temps à mater les news et à jouer au solitaire moi !

:P


Laurent non plus, c'est un pur parigot maintenant. :P


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Toulon's Not Toulouse wrote:
jolindien wrote:
Laurent wrote:
jolindien wrote:
Ptain, Frédéric Forte est mort :? :(

crise cardiaque il semblerait... ptain après tout le sport qu'il a fait... pas de bol quand même

tu es un redrebel multi ?


putain... j'suis pas un expat qui passe son temps à mater les news et à jouer au solitaire moi !

:P


Laurent non plus, c'est un pur parigot maintenant. :P


Un bobo gauchiste quoi...


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Vaha getting his timing just right over the current physicality debate:
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:lol:


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Toulon's Not Toulouse wrote:
Vaha getting his timing just right over the current physicality debate:
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:lol:


Noves' fault.


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Toulon's Not Toulouse wrote:
Vaha getting his timing just right over the current physicality debate:
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:lol:

Smooth phrasing too.


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Toulon's Not Toulouse wrote:
Vaha getting his timing just right over the current physicality debate:
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:lol:


Noves' fault.


Pas de souci, Bernie va vite faire remonter la copie de la lettre de Guy Môquet à Azema. C'est ça la nouvelle gouvernance. Interaction totale T14/FFF. :thumbup:


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