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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:38 am 
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Didn't see the Munster v Gloucester game, I presume this was at least a yellow?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:47 am 
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Stander attempt to use his arms but gets it wrong. Coupled with the other player with arms around the other neck = pen. Maybe a yellow. No red for sure


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:51 am 
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Red card if we want consistency.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:53 am 
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How many players do a team have to lose before a match is abandoned?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:01 am 
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Flametop wrote:
How many players do a team have to lose before a match is abandoned?


How many players have to get a red card before the message sinks in?

In the clip above it looks very much as though red 8 hits the chin of the ball carrier with his shoulder = red card.

There may be other angles that disprove that, but whatever, its very simple; tackle lower. That is what the rule makers want to see, and if players refuse then a lot will get marching orders.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:08 am 
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If cips was red so was this.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:13 am 
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If cips was red so was this.


Cips didn’t try a tackle.
The above gif shows a high tackle.
Going by the directives, lucky not to see red.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:14 am 
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To be fair to the ref the TMO protocol at Thomond Park which is the crowd must cause a whining noise of 70db for 5 seconds wasn't completed so he didn't have the option to go upstairs


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Tim13 wrote:
Flametop wrote:
How many players do a team have to lose before a match is abandoned?


How many players have to get a red card before the message sinks in?

In the clip above it looks very much as though red 8 hits the chin of the ball carrier with his shoulder = red card.

There may be other angles that disprove that, but whatever, its very simple; tackle lower. That is what the rule makers want to see, and if players refuse then a lot will get marching orders.


I have no issue with the directive for tackling lower.
My problem is that along with the ridiculous catching in the air red cards, Cipriani was red carded for being run into yesterday.


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Flametop wrote:
nardol wrote:
If cips was red so was this.


Cips didn’t try a tackle.
The above gif shows a high tackle.
Going by the directives, lucky not to see red.


I think Cips barely touched him :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:26 am 
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Red card, shoulder to head. It's actually hard to hit the head (if the head is above shoulder height) with the shoulder unless you meant to do it.


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not that I'm a huge fan of photos to prove much but this is the incident that led to Cips being given a card

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not that I'm a huge fan of photos to prove much but this is the incident that led to Cips being given a card

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So, how was that any different to the tackle attempt in the OP?
There really does need to be more consistency


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Along with the footage of Cipriani being in the air going backwards for the most part as the collision happened this photo shows just how passive his split second brace for contact was.
Front foot is in the air, back foot barely down on a few toes.
Hardly the position/action of a man trying to make a tackle.

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Cast iron red for the Munster 8 going by that gif. Shoud be a citing and a ban.


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SaintK wrote:
Hong Kong wrote:
not that I'm a huge fan of photos to prove much but this is the incident that led to Cips being given a card

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So, how was that any different to the tackle attempt in the OP?
There really does need to be more consistency

and this is why I don't like photos...and I can't say how is the photo different to the gif in the OP, as I have not seen all footage of both incidents nor have I listened to what was said by the refs, nor do I know what the ARs or TMO may have seen/said. And lastly, I don't know whether or not the first incident has been cited or not


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In the Edinburgh Toulon game there was a high looking hit on Grant Gilchrist (and he’s six foot eight so that’s pretty high) which resulted in him going off for an HIA. No penalty, not reviewed by TMO. Seeing it live from the touchline I thought it needed looked at, haven’t seen it back again yet.


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Didn't see the Munster v Gloucester game, I presume this was at least a yellow?

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It's a short and shitty lofi gif, but:
  • Red 8 wraps his left arm around the ballcarrier's back and his right around the ballcarrier's upper left arm
  • It is unclear if Red 8 contacts the ballcarrier's head at all, especally as Red 20something has his lefty arm wrapping arounf the ballcarrier's head then neck
  • So what the fúck was the reason given for the dismissal?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:21 pm 
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You could have finetoothcombed yesterday's game and found a lot more than that. Turty Six on probably tree different incidences, for starters.

Cips was hard done by, based on the clips I've seen and our 20 lucky in terms of consistency, for sure. But there was one team who fairly clearly had a far more serious issue with being high repeatedly yesterday and it wasn't Munster.

Not that Kid A could possibly pass up his opportunity to spew gif bile in Munsters direction.

What else would he have in life?


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Kid A you have your gifs thread to promote your Ireland and all its provinces are treated favourably thesis. Not sure why you feel the need for new threads. I would go as far as saying you should be banned for it considering how the servers are struggling. ZAPPA


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:27 pm 
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MungoMan wrote:
Kid A wrote:
Didn't see the Munster v Gloucester game, I presume this was at least a yellow?

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It's a short and shitty lofi gif, but:
  • Red 8 wraps his left arm around the ballcarrier's back and his right around the ballcarrier's upper left arm
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  • It is unclear if Red 8 contacts the ballcarrier's head at all, especally as Red 20something has his lefty arm wrapping arounf the ballcarrier's head then neck
  • So what the fúck was the reason given for the dismissal?

Look at the ball carriers head almost come off on impact.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:31 pm 
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MungoMan wrote:
Kid A wrote:
Didn't see the Munster v Gloucester game, I presume this was at least a yellow?

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It's a short and shitty lofi gif, but:
  • Red 8 wraps his left arm around the ballcarrier's back and his right around the ballcarrier's upper left arm
  • It is unclear if Red 8 contacts the ballcarrier's head at all, especally as Red 20something has his lefty arm wrapping arounf the ballcarrier's head then neck
  • So what the fúck was the reason given for the dismissal?


8's arm rides up above the shoulder but doesn't get to the head, so no red, just a penalty. You're right about the other fellah.

A post just disappeared. What's going on?


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Ted. wrote:
MungoMan wrote:
Kid A wrote:
Didn't see the Munster v Gloucester game, I presume this was at least a yellow?

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It's a short and shitty lofi gif, but:
  • Red 8 wraps his left arm around the ballcarrier's back and his right around the ballcarrier's upper left arm
  • It is unclear if Red 8 contacts the ballcarrier's head at all, especally as Red 20something has his lefty arm wrapping arounf the ballcarrier's head then neck
  • So what the fúck was the reason given for the dismissal?


8's arm rides up above the shoulder but doesn't get to the head, so no red, just a penalty. You're right about the other fellah.

A post just disappeared. What's going on?


That was mine. I deleted it because it was bullshit, got this confused with the Ulster game.


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Kid A you have your gifs thread to promote your Ireland and all its provinces are treated favourably thesis. Not sure why you feel the need for new threads. I would go as far as saying you should be banned for it considering how the servers are struggling. ZAPPA


Feck off you joke of a poster.


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EverReady wrote:
Kid A you have your gifs thread to promote your Ireland and all its provinces are treated favourably thesis. Not sure why you feel the need for new threads. I would go as far as saying you should be banned for it considering how the servers are struggling. ZAPPA


Feck off you joke of a poster.


Thanks buddy. You can stay


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redderneck wrote:

Not that Kid A could possibly pass up his opportunity to spew gif bile in Munsters direction.




Paranoid much?

This was from twitter. I've not seen any other incidents from the game other than Cipriani's. As ever.....give me a match clock time and I'd be more than happy to show the randomness of rugby's disciplinary process with some more GIFs. Last week I did a few others including an Owen Farrell high shot.

So do us a favour, stop playing the victim card, get your head out of your assh0le and contribute to the discussion rather than crying like a 4 year old girl who's shit her pants. cheers.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:00 pm 
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Kid A's contribution:

1. Impenetrable Korean language films
2. Thinking he is the only person who has seen The Lives of Others
3. Welsh TV money
4. Gifs of Irish indiscretions

Pretty decent tbf


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:03 pm 
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Ooooh, they don't like it. Do they.


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The same way one does not like a record looping


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You know a Kid A gif thread has had the desired effect when the Irish start attacking him instead of debating the gif in question


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You know a Kid A gif thread has had the desired effect when the Irish start attacking him instead of debating the gif in question


Standard.


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To the letter of the law it was a red card. However I think the laws are quite harsh and in reality it didn't deserve to be a red card. Just my 2 cents.


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On first viewing the one on 36 looks like a red card to me, but on discovering that Kid A is apparently mean to Munster regularly I now feel it's probably a yellow at most.


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Clive Simms wrote:
You know a Kid A gif thread has had the desired effect when the Irish start attacking him instead of debating the gif in question


Well done on agreeing that it's all about baiting. Next.


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On first viewing the one on 36 looks like a red card to me, but on discovering that Kid A is apparently mean to Munster regularly I now feel it's probably a yellow at most.


You can stay.

In all seriousness - yesterday's game was muck and I wouldnt be recommending ANYONE rewatch it frame by frame looking for anything giffable. It's hard to find a side whose discipline is poorer than ours has been this season but Glaws managed to outdo us in that regard.

I don't think any team which comes out of this group is going to trouble the European silver market this season, sadly.


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Red card if we want consistency.


5 weeks shirley


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He has absolutely no good reason to be going that high.


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By the letter both this and Cips were red cards. The Cips one spoilt the game for me, but if we are serious about sorting stuff out we are going to have to go through some disappointments.


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By the letter both this and Cips were red cards. The Cips one spoilt the game for me, but if we are serious about sorting stuff out we are going to have to go through some disappointments.


And in the interest of fairness what did you think the correct sanction for turtly trees one was.


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Lenny wrote:
nuffsaid wrote:
By the letter both this and Cips were red cards. The Cips one spoilt the game for me, but if we are serious about sorting stuff out we are going to have to go through some disappointments.


And in the interest of fairness what did you think the correct sanction for turtly trees one was.


I said both (Cips and the above)were reds. Do you not agree?


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