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 Post subject: Re: Best Sci-Fi Novels
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Really pisses me off (itunes) that fantasy and sci-fi seem to get lumped together on some sites.
I don't give a fudge about ravens, goblins, wizards, massive swords or hooded mystics. I just want the stars!

+ several million.


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Some neglected classics:

Sherri S. Tepper, The Gate to Women's Country. This is a hard one to explain; a post-nuclear future where the social order is maintained by strictly defined gender-specific roles. But not everything is what it seems. This is the kind of book where you get to the end and then have to reread it in a whole different light.

George R. Stewart, Earth Abides. The definitive dystopian pandemic novel. It's amazing how well it holds up after so many decades. One man's saga of trying to make life not just about survival but about meaning something, too. As the years slip by you'll appreciate the trajectory as well as the tragedy.


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Some good fun escapist reads:

Julian May, The Saga of the Pliocene Exiles. Four books (The Many Colored Land; The Golden Torc; The Nonborn King; The Adversary) that span six million years and expose Earth's true past. One of the best fantasy/sci fi crossovers ever.

Stephen Baxter, Flood and Ark. The first book depicts the drowning of the entire Earth; the sequel follows the desperate attempts to get the remnant of humanity safely to another world. One of the best "hard" sci fi authors out there.

S.M. Stirling, The Emberverse. An ever-expanding series on the thought experiment - what would happen if all of our technology just suddenly didn't work one day? The first three novels (Dies the Fire, The Protector's War, A Meeting at Corvallis) which cover the forced transition to a pre-industrial life, are the best of the bunch, but the subsequent titles that follow the lives of the next generation have their moments.


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Sefton wrote:
The Red Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson.


Seconded enthusiastically. Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars - very dense and not everyone's cup of tea but if you want a point by point study of the politics and science behind how terraforming might play out, and how we may go about colonizing another world, you can't go past this trilogy.


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Saint wrote:
Brabus wrote:
The Reality Dysfunction - Peter F Hamilton

That's just the first third of the Confederation trilogy


Interestingly, Misspent Youth, whilst not his best is very topical re the eBook thread.

Alistair Reynolds is excellent.

Ted - I can't believe you've never read Banks!


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Banks is my favourite author and 'Look to Windward' - my introduction to 'The Culture' - the favourite of his books.


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The Mote in God's Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle?
This review of Alastair Reynolds' Blue Remembered Earth seems encouraging:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/ar ... 6272553483


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i never miss these:

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i never miss these:

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Pile of shit, how anyone can be interested in this genre is beyond me. This and vampire tales


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Hahahaha


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windpomp wrote:
Monk Zombie wrote:
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Pile of shit, how anyone can be interested in this genre is beyond me. This and vampire tales


Probablt a bit beyond you Windpoes with you still struggling through the Noddy books.


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Hova wrote:
Hahahaha


what amuses your brain cell here?


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RuggaBugga wrote:
windpomp wrote:
Monk Zombie wrote:
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Pile of shit, how anyone can be interested in this genre is beyond me. This and vampire tales


Probablt a bit beyond you Windpoes with you still struggling through the Noddy books.

fudge off plum


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Jack L Chalker is one that i enjoyed that hasnt been mentioned yet.

The Quintara marathon snd Rings of The Master are genuine Sci-fi wheres The Well World, Changewinds etc.. mix it up a bit more.


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Probablt a bit beyond you Windpoes with you still struggling through the Noddy books.


:lol:


Windpomps fav Sci Fi novel is the Bible bro, he only reads the good stuff.


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windpomp wrote:
RuggaBugga wrote:
windpomp wrote:
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i never miss these:


Pile of shit, how anyone can be interested in this genre is beyond me. This and vampire tales


Probablt a bit beyond you Windpoes with you still struggling through the Noddy books.

fudge off plum


Don't be all queer big ears.

Figured out how to use the quote function yet dumbarse?


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Don't be all queer big ears.

Figured out how to use the quote function yet dumbarse?



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Hova wrote:
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Don't be all queer big ears.

Figured out how to use the quote function yet dumbarse?



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Tell me, barman


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Windpomp, the kind of guy who tricks his kids into believing an make-belief character like Santa but disowns his own kids for believing in another make believe character, God.


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Hova wrote:
Windpomp, the kind of guy who tricks his kids into believing an make-belief character like Santa but disowns his own kids for believing in another make believe character, God.

Only God, Jesus and Holy Spirit others are make-belief characters that you are so fond of when reading your pie in the sky books, barman. Do you actually believe the shit you are reading?


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Poor choice. I`m not catholic


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Windpompies, please stop enforcing the stereotype. Betwene you, Sards and cnut Nipper I'm not surprised that RC has so much ammo.


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sorCrer wrote:
Windpompies, please stop enforcing the stereotype. Betwene you, Sards and cnut Nipper I'm not surprised that RC has so much ammo.

What strereotype? I believe in God, that`s all. If anyone has an isssue with that, then fudge them and you included


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windpomp wrote:
sorCrer wrote:
Windpompies, please stop enforcing the stereotype. Betwene you, Sards and cnut Nipper I'm not surprised that RC has so much ammo.

What strereotype? I believe in God, that`s all. If anyone has an isssue with that, then fudge them and you included


jesus is love, eh windpoes?


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windpomp wrote:
sorCrer wrote:
Windpompies, please stop enforcing the stereotype. Betwene you, Sards and cnut Nipper I'm not surprised that RC has so much ammo.

What strereotype? I believe in God, that`s all. If anyone has an isssue with that, then fudge them and you included


The dumb clutchplate stereotype.


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Cymro wrote:
D'arse wrote:
Really pisses me off (itunes) that fantasy and sci-fi seem to get lumped together on some sites.
I don't give a fudge about ravens, goblins, wizards, massive swords or hooded mystics. I just want the stars!

+ several million.


Indeedy. Most fantasy is risible pap, and there only seems to be one story. So is some sci-fi of course - but nowhere near the same extent. Can't figure out why they're lumped together.


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 Post subject: Re: Best Sci-Fi Novels
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Back on topic...


Footfall - Niven and Pournelle - Brilliant especially when you get to the bit when they build "Michael" (I will say no more)

Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise, A Fall of Moondust, Rendezvous with Rama (the follow-ups are ok too)

Asimov - The Robot books are very probably scientific second sight, Foundation is however (imho) monumentally dull

Greg Bear - Eon, his other stuff is ok too.

You could do worse than pick up old copies of SF collections from the 40's and 50's at car boots and sh bookstores. It's where I started with SF and you get a brilliant insight into the style and minds of the authors. Great starting point, and some marvellous tales...

Oh, and don't forget The Handmaids Tale by Margaret Attwood. Deserves to be up there with Stranger, Brave New World, 1984, 2001 and Fahrenheit 451. Genius.


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sorCrer wrote:
Windpompies, please stop enforcing the stereotype. Betwene you, Sards and cnut Nipper I'm not surprised that RC has so much ammo.



It is good fun. Three dense plum. Don't worry though, I don't tar you all with the same brush. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Best Sci-Fi Novels
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Fat Albert wrote:
The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress - Heinlein
Ring World - Niven
Lucifer's Hammer - Niven & Pournelle
Dune - Herbert
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Dick

Series
Foundation - Asimov
Dorsai - Dickson
Pern - McCaffrey

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Nightfall - Asimov
Weyr Search - McCaffrey



Good selection

Stranger in a Strange Land by Heinlein
several of Arthur C Clarke's
The Mote in God's Eye Niven


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Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan is good.


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Dillon wrote:
For military sci-fi, I really enjoy the Warhammer 40,000 books, especially those authored by Dan Abnett.


Abnett's pretty much the only serious writer there, sadly. The erm Ciaphas Cain by Sandy Mitchell stuff is a good 40k-themed Flashman series, but it's pretty repetitive.

I was a big fan of the Ian Watson stuff when I was a nipper, but it doesn't really hold up. His Inquisition War series was fantastic though.


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Petros wrote:
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Stranger in a Strange Land by Heinlein


It's not really sci-fi though, is it. It's a weird political statement with a character who just happens to be from Mars. Odd odd book!


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This thread on the old forum became the iain m. Banks fanboi thread.
His books are just class. Must reread done this summer.


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Nolanator wrote:
This thread on the old forum became the iain m. Banks fanboi thread.
His books are just class. Must reread done this summer.


Really tried to read his books but they just leave me cold I'm afraid. Don't know why...


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doog22 wrote:
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This thread on the old forum became the iain m. Banks fanboi thread.
His books are just class. Must reread done this summer.


Really tried to read his books but they just leave me cold I'm afraid. Don't know why...


It's hard sci-fi, he doesn't make life easy with his character names, it's often brutal and every now and then he writes a book that makes it seem like he's awfully pleased with himself.

But he's prolific and I think he's written a broad enough range that there'd be something I could recommend to any sci-fi fan.


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JM2K6 wrote:
doog22 wrote:
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This thread on the old forum became the iain m. Banks fanboi thread.
His books are just class. Must reread done this summer.


Really tried to read his books but they just leave me cold I'm afraid. Don't know why...


It's hard sci-fi, he doesn't make life easy with his character names, it's often brutal and every now and then he writes a book that makes it seem like he's awfully pleased with himself.

But he's prolific and I think he's written a broad enough range that there'd be something I could recommend to any sci-fi fan.


Thanks for that. Your mission for today (should you feel like it...) is to pick me one that you recommend. I'm fine with hard SF, I like a strong central idea, (like the cylindrical spacecraft in Rama) if you get my drift? Cheers.


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Do you remember which one(s) you tried reading already?


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Use of Weapons is one of his best IMO. Really well crafted story as the protagonist's pastis slowly revealed over the course of his latest mission.
The story in itself is decent enough (highly evolved civilisations meddling with the development of other, more primitive ones), but the way the character is slowly built up to a total mind-fuck at the end is just class. Must give it a go soon.

Matter was one of my favourites. Huge imagination in creating different types of artificial worlds and then populating them.


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