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Attn Cammy, TSG, Mullet et al

This is worth a read ..... didn’t post it to the brexit thread as it would be wasted on the usual suspects there

https://www.ria.ie/sites/default/files/ ... 018_v2.pdf

rfurlong wrote:Attn Cammy, TSG, Mullet et al

This is worth a read ..... didn’t post it to the brexit thread as it would be wasted on the usual suspects there

https://www.ria.ie/sites/default/files/ ... 018_v2.pdf

TLDR

United Ireland good for NI? Good for real Ireland?

Edit. aologies for the volume of spam today. Quiet day 'working' from home that requires constant (mouse) activity behind computer. You know how it is.

rfurlong wrote:Attn Cammy, TSG, Mullet et al

This is worth a read ..... didn’t post it to the brexit thread as it would be wasted on the usual suspects there

https://www.ria.ie/sites/default/files/ ... 018_v2.pdf

That's a good read but you're right: It would be wasted on spoofers like Bimbo and Trance.

sewa wrote:

nardol wrote:

sewa wrote:

Mullet 2 wrote:Have you applied Sewa?

You clearly understand finance, financial markets and how to run a bank.

I know that rewarding abject failure is not the best way to go, down 27% YTD and you want to give them all performance bonuses? A good kick up the fuckiing hole is what they need

Ok clearly you dont agree with the direction management took AIB. What did they do wrong that requires a 'kick up the fuckiing hole'? Clearly you are an expert on the matter using such strong language against them.

So... what would you do different Sewa?

Well I certainly wouldn't be rewarding the existing underperforming crew. If there was a few people identified who could seriously stengthen the board then they could be brought in under an exemption to the existing rules. I am off shortly for a few pints in the Duke and I will be crying into my beer for these poor guys only making 500k a year plus 100k pension top-ups, meanwhile the bank they are running is way off the 6.00 a share analysts said was easily achievable by now

in fairness any of those fcukers that put a gun to Brian Lenihan's head with the bank guarantee shouldn't be getting any pensions. Lenihan should have said....speaking of guarantees i'm going to need some written ones from you guys first...something stronger . I remember the discussion at the time being whether they should get the pensions or not and surprise surprise the government said we've spoken to HR and the lawyers and they said to pay it. My take would have been dont pay them, let the fuckers sue us, let them feel some pain, we'll probably have to pay it anyway plus fees but fcuk it, grow a pair, set a precedent that every once in a while we're going to push back

ticketlessinseattle wrote:

sewa wrote:

nardol wrote:

sewa wrote:

Mullet 2 wrote:Have you applied Sewa?

You clearly understand finance, financial markets and how to run a bank.

I know that rewarding abject failure is not the best way to go, down 27% YTD and you want to give them all performance bonuses? A good kick up the fuckiing hole is what they need

Ok clearly you dont agree with the direction management took AIB. What did they do wrong that requires a 'kick up the fuckiing hole'? Clearly you are an expert on the matter using such strong language against them.

So... what would you do different Sewa?

Well I certainly wouldn't be rewarding the existing underperforming crew. If there was a few people identified who could seriously stengthen the board then they could be brought in under an exemption to the existing rules. I am off shortly for a few pints in the Duke and I will be crying into my beer for these poor guys only making 500k a year plus 100k pension top-ups, meanwhile the bank they are running is way off the 6.00 a share analysts said was easily achievable by now

in fairness any of those fcukers that put a gun to Brian Lenihan's head with the bank guarantee shouldn't be getting any pensions. Lenihan should have said....speaking of guarantees i'm going to need some written ones from you guys first...something stronger . I remember the discussion at the time being whether they should get the pensions or not and surprise surprise the government said we've spoken to HR and the lawyers and they said to pay it. My take would have been dont pay them, let the fuckers sue us, let them feel some pain, we'll probably have to pay it anyway plus fees but fcuk it, grow a pair, set a precedent that every once in a while we're going to push back

Fairly sure it was the ECB with the biggest gun to Lenihan's head.

However agreed on the rest. The whole thing should have been allowed to go bang.

iarmhiman wrote:

rfurlong wrote:Attn Cammy, TSG, Mullet et al

This is worth a read ..... didn’t post it to the brexit thread as it would be wasted on the usual suspects there

https://www.ria.ie/sites/default/files/ ... 018_v2.pdf

That's a good read but you're right: It would be wasted on spoofers like Bimbo and Trance.

wowza you're a fast reader.

nardol wrote: Fairly sure it was the ECB with the biggest gun to Lenihan's head.

However agreed on the rest. The whole thing should have been allowed to go bang.

yup, meant to say....a guarantee stronger that what you put in the directors report in the audit report....sure we all know that's a load of bollix.

AIB share price is pretty artificial until they are trading on the open market. Currently 71% of the shares are off the market.

EverReady wrote:Any exit poll malarkey yet?

Sure the polls are open for another 5 hours yet

Uncle Fester wrote:AIB share price is pretty artificial until they are trading on the open market. Currently 71% of the shares are off the market.

Ah there is enough liquidity in the market for it to be broadly reflective. If its not the 25% market dip YTD is even more worrying. People who bought at IPO (institutional, asset managers, pension funds etc) losing confidence and ditching AIB. Thats worrying.

EverReady wrote:

alliswell wrote:

EverReady wrote:Any exit poll malarkey yet?

Sure the polls are open for another 5 hours yet

I thought they did a poll of some people exiting and called it an exit poll

Travellers stole their pens.

nardol wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:AIB share price is pretty artificial until they are trading on the open market. Currently 71% of the shares are off the market.

Ah there is enough liquidity in the market for it to be broadly reflective. If its not the 25% market dip YTD is even more worrying. People who bought at IPO (institutional, asset managers, pension funds etc) losing confidence and ditching AIB. Thats worrying.

IPO price doesn't necessarily reflect long term price.
See eircom shares for example.

EverReady wrote:Any exit poll malarkey yet?

Big majority to allow gay welding.

A pollster i know in Cork reckons Casey could win based on the boxes he has seen

sewa wrote:A pollster i know in Cork reckons Casey could win based on the boxes he has seen

Meh. The best he'll do is a close 2nd. Would be funny though. Seeing a few on twitter saying only vote 1 MDH so his surplus isn't redistributed to to others so they get a campaign refund.

It's a bit weird there's been no exit polls?

Bullettyme wrote:It's a bit weird there's been no exit polls?

Polls have to close first.

Bullettyme wrote:It's a bit weird there's been no exit polls?

Nobody gives a shit?

Liathroidigloine wrote:€500K is about what an average medical consultant earns a year. So we want to restrict the pay of a person who is head of a huge organisation to the same as a medical consultant who runs him/herself.

Most of them are nowhere near 500k a year what are you taking about

EverReady wrote:

Bullettyme wrote:It's a bit weird there's been no exit polls?

One at 10pm on RTE- RedC jobby

Big surprise. MDH is going to win.

His crew were out canvassing on the canal this morning and got a few quips about the expenses.

EverReady wrote:Exit in

Casey 21
Duffy 2
Freeman 6
Gallagher 6
Higgins 58
Ni Riada 7

Disaster for nearly all of them by the looks of it

That's actually quite funny. Shinners will be pissed.

Duff Paddy wrote:

Liathroidigloine wrote:€500K is about what an average medical consultant earns a year. So we want to restrict the pay of a person who is head of a huge organisation to the same as a medical consultant who runs him/herself.

Most of them are nowhere near 500k a year what are you taking about

Any with contract and private are on that sort of cash.

EverReady wrote:

Bullettyme wrote:

EverReady wrote:Exit in

Casey 21
Duffy 2
Freeman 6
Gallagher 6
Higgins 58
Ni Riada 7

Disaster for nearly all of them by the looks of it

That's actually quite funny. Shinners will be pissed.

I, and most people, got that well wrong and shows their core vote is pretty lazy/jaded by the looks of it. Surprised at Gallagher as well though his heart never seemed to be in it

I'd say so, and I think Ni Riada is a pretty poor candidate and that expenses stuff and not knowing the average wage probably hurt her. I'd imagine the party machine and grassroots probably weren't arsed. I'm surprised Gallagher went for it tbh, I reckon he would have done better but Casey going full madser over last week just sucked all the oxygen out of the other 4.

Uncle Fester wrote:

nardol wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:AIB share price is pretty artificial until they are trading on the open market. Currently 71% of the shares are off the market.

Ah there is enough liquidity in the market for it to be broadly reflective. If its not the 25% market dip YTD is even more worrying. People who bought at IPO (institutional, asset managers, pension funds etc) losing confidence and ditching AIB. Thats worrying.

IPO price doesn't necessarily reflect long term price.
See eircom shares for example.

Obviously.

But when only a quarter of the bank is floating and a quartet/third of the banks value has gone some of the big players that picked up at the IPO have jumped ship. Not a good sign is all in saying.

EverReady wrote:Exit in

Casey 21
Duffy 2
Freeman 6
Gallagher 6
Higgins 58
Ni Riada 7

Disaster for nearly all of them by the looks of it

Casey did surprisingly well ... still slime but he is well above the rest ...

Massive result for Casey, you'd have thought. Although Gallagher coming second in 2011 meant squat.

CM11 wrote:Massive result for Casey, you'd have thought. Although Gallagher coming second in 2011 meant squat.

Gallagher coming 2nd in 2011 might have meant squat to some. It meant fraud and the erosion of democracy to me.

Casey’s performance should start the needed debate. It won’t because cowards won’t allow it.

Liathroidigloine wrote:

CM11 wrote:Massive result for Casey, you'd have thought. Although Gallagher coming second in 2011 meant squat.

Gallagher coming 2nd in 2011 might have meant squat to some. It meant fraud and the erosion of democracy to me.

I meant squat for Gallagher in terms of his profile.

CM11 wrote:

Liathroidigloine wrote:

CM11 wrote:Massive result for Casey, you'd have thought. Although Gallagher coming second in 2011 meant squat.

Gallagher coming 2nd in 2011 might have meant squat to some. It meant fraud and the erosion of democracy to me.

I meant squat for Gallagher in terms of his profile.

Gallagher went into hiding. I don’t think Casey will.

My 20 person poll looks to have been quite accurate

Delighted that Casey got 20% ..... will hopefully soften the cough of the so called center parties and give them the confidence to start representing the people who pay for everything

Even more delighted the anti vaxxer terrorism apologist lost her parties deposit

Now if only FF or FG had the balls to put up a decent candidate ......

Wakey wakey leo and meehole ...... there’s votes to be had in calling out entitled wasters and layabouts ..... who’d have thunk it

EverReady wrote:

Liathroidigloine wrote:

CM11 wrote:

Liathroidigloine wrote:

CM11 wrote:Massive result for Casey, you'd have thought. Although Gallagher coming second in 2011 meant squat.

Gallagher coming 2nd in 2011 might have meant squat to some. It meant fraud and the erosion of democracy to me.

I meant squat for Gallagher in terms of his profile.

Gallagher went into hiding. I don’t think Casey will.

Casey is a bit of an idiot though. He is not the Messiah he is just a very....

Agree but we need someone from the mainstream to take the ball but no one will.

Liathroidigloine wrote:

EverReady wrote:

Liathroidigloine wrote:

Liathroidigloine wrote:

CM11 wrote:Massive result for Casey, you'd have thought. Although Gallagher coming second in 2011 meant squat.

Gallagher coming 2nd in 2011 might have meant squat to some. It meant fraud and the erosion of democracy to me.

Gallagher went into hiding. I don’t think Casey will.

Casey is a bit of an idiot though. He is not the Messiah he is just a very....

Agree but we need someone from the mainstream to take the ball but no one will.

As above, hopefully this gives people the guts to push back against the entitlement culture

EverReady wrote:Proportional rep does for those candidates as nobody will share with them. Here is the IT poll and it is basically the same

Spoiler: show

I reckon Casey will top the poll in some constituencies including Longford/Westmeath.

I think a period of community service would be appropriate for any time wasters below 10% ... they enough shite about wanting to serve the community ... gobshites ...

EverReady wrote:

Liathroidigloine wrote:

EverReady wrote:Proportional rep does for those candidates as nobody will share with them. Here is the IT poll and it is basically the same

Spoiler: show

I reckon Casey will top the poll in some constituencies including Longford/Westmeath.

That will be interesting alright

Will there be a positive correlation between traveller population and Casey vote.

Liathroidigloine wrote:

CM11 wrote:Massive result for Casey, you'd have thought. Although Gallagher coming second in 2011 meant squat.

Gallagher coming 2nd in 2011 might have meant squat to some. It meant fraud and the erosion of democracy to me.

This is a new perspective and something that I think you should speak about more frequently.

Nolanator wrote:

Liathroidigloine wrote:

CM11 wrote:Massive result for Casey, you'd have thought. Although Gallagher coming second in 2011 meant squat.

Gallagher coming 2nd in 2011 might have meant squat to some. It meant fraud and the erosion of democracy to me.

This is a new perspective and something that I think you should speak about more frequently.

It needs to be said loudly and often. I’m just surprised that all the liberals here are so comfortable with it.

What are liberals?