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Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:17 pm
by Leinsterman
What the heck was in the package?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:18 pm
by Flametop
Leinsterman wrote:What the heck was in the package?
From Thomann in Germany.
Musical equipment.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:24 pm
by Leinsterman
Should be ok I would have thought
Certainly doesn't seem to be an issue with hampers getting delivered anyway. Got three in work this week. Gonna be fat as fcuk once Christmas is over and in need of a new liver!

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:26 pm
by Flametop
Managed to get two Nerf gains in from Amazon Uk in 4 days.
In fairness, it had been opened.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:29 pm
by Flametop
I reckon my eldest knows and is saying nothing as long as Santa delivers.
If I have to give him some BS about Santa losing a package off the sleigh, I think he’s going to tell me I am full of shit. I’m getting a bit nervous.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:34 pm
by Flametop
EverReady wrote:Amazon Prime is taking an age as in one plus week. Got a pair of super off road salomon x trail speedcross 4 runners for wearing down the shop delivered today
Can you run down to Portlaise in them and pick up my parcel for me?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:42 pm
by Leinsterman
Anyone remember the drama Rebellion that was shown on RTE at the beginning of 2016 to celebrate 1916?
They have a new one starting on January 8th called Resistance to celebrate the War of Independence. What a great way to approach Brexit by reminding ourselves if what bastards they can be.
I'll be dusting down the Wolfe Tone CDs

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:45 pm
by rfurlong
Traveller family #1 - “the house is no good cos there’s nowhere for me horse”

Traveller family #2 - “the house is no good cos it’s too close to those other travellers”

RTÉ - “it’s all the governments fault”

:uhoh:

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:49 pm
by Flametop
What if we put the schools on wheels and they could follow the travellers around wherever the travellers wanted to travel?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:59 pm
by Leinsterman
EverReady wrote:From what I recall from Rebellion the gays and a few back street abortion women won it for us. How do they fare against the Black and Tans is what I want to know
The trans brigade will win the day

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:02 am
by Bullettyme
Leinsterman wrote:Anyone remember the drama Rebellion that was shown on RTE at the beginning of 2016 to celebrate 1916?
They have a new one starting on January 8th called Resistance to celebrate the War of Independence. What a great way to approach Brexit by reminding ourselves if what bastards they can be.
I'll be dusting down the Wolfe Tone CDs
I don't know about anyone else but I'm really looking forward to the Brexit movie.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:05 am
by nardol
Bullettyme wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:Anyone remember the drama Rebellion that was shown on RTE at the beginning of 2016 to celebrate 1916?
They have a new one starting on January 8th called Resistance to celebrate the War of Independence. What a great way to approach Brexit by reminding ourselves if what bastards they can be.
I'll be dusting down the Wolfe Tone CDs
I don't know about anyone else but I'm really looking forward to the Brexit movie.

I'm way too far into the TV show 'The UK' to get into the movie adaptation. Cant wait for the season finale after Christmas.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:26 am
by Mullet 2
Saw Peter Casey yesterday.

Swoon

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:32 am
by Liathroidigloine
SASP wrote:I ordered something from Russia on the 7th and still waiting on it.
A Kalashnikov?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:22 pm
by Mullet 2
Stephen Collins has a great article in the Times

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:29 pm
by Duff Paddy
Mullet 2 wrote:Stephen Collins has a great article in the Times
He’s one of their last remaining good contributors

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:30 pm
by Mullet 2
yep

Lone voice in a sea of shit

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:50 pm
by Flametop
Duff, what exactly is the problem at An Post, other than it being the busy time of year?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:53 pm
by rfurlong
Duff Paddy wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:Stephen Collins has a great article in the Times
He’s one of their last remaining good contributors
:thumbup:

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:59 pm
by Liathroidigloine
rfurlong wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:Stephen Collins has a great article in the Times
He’s one of their last remaining good contributors
:thumbup:
Read it. It's a really good piece but is lost in the morass of shit and tripe that the IT and Indo propagate. SC's points are so valid but his own paper is partly responsible for the rise in populism with the likes of Fintan O'Toole etc

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:55 pm
by alliswell
Liathroidigloine wrote:
rfurlong wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:Stephen Collins has a great article in the Times
He’s one of their last remaining good contributors
:thumbup:
Read it. It's a really good piece but is lost in the morass of shit and tripe that the IT and Indo propagate. SC's points are so valid but his own paper is partly responsible for the rise in populism with the likes of Fintan O'Toole etc
How do you mean? The opinion pieces of of today are:
STEPHEN COLLINS
Overlap between FG and FF good for Irish democracy

NEWTON EMERSON
Newton Emerson: Stakeknife case will cut into comforting narratives

REGINA DOHERTY
Regina Doherty: Only unscrupulous employers need fear Bill

The editorials are:
The Irish Times view on Brexit planning: Preparing for the worst
The Irish Times view on the Mueller investigation: closing in

What's wrong with any of that?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:38 pm
by Leinsterman
Liathroid would prefer if the Times was wall to wall Myers and Waters.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:58 pm
by Bullettyme
alliswell wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
rfurlong wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:Stephen Collins has a great article in the Times
He’s one of their last remaining good contributors
:thumbup:
Read it. It's a really good piece but is lost in the morass of shit and tripe that the IT and Indo propagate. SC's points are so valid but his own paper is partly responsible for the rise in populism with the likes of Fintan O'Toole etc
How do you mean? The opinion pieces of of today are:
STEPHEN COLLINS
Overlap between FG and FF good for Irish democracy

NEWTON EMERSON
Newton Emerson: Stakeknife case will cut into comforting narratives

REGINA DOHERTY
Regina Doherty: Only unscrupulous employers need fear Bill

The editorials are:
The Irish Times view on Brexit planning: Preparing for the worst
The Irish Times view on the Mueller investigation: closing in

What's wrong with any of that?
More fun to complain and read stuff that backs up your views.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:24 am
by Liathroidigloine
Leinsterman wrote:Liathroid would prefer if the Times was wall to wall Myers and Waters.
No, but some balance wouldn't go astray. We don't have that with our main news sources anymore.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:29 am
by Mullet 2
Bullettyme wrote:
alliswell wrote:
What's wrong with any of that?
More fun to complain and read stuff that backs up your views.
The two biggest commie c unts on the bored see no problem with the Times shocker :lol:

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:01 am
by alliswell
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:Liathroid would prefer if the Times was wall to wall Myers and Waters.
No, but some balance wouldn't go astray. We don't have that with our main news sources anymore.
And today's opinion pieces are:

Noel Whelan
The British government is dangerously out of its depth

OWEN POLLEY
Unionist opposition to the Brexit deal is completely reasonable

SUZANNE LYNCH
Could Donald Trump be on the verge of his Watergate?

Could you point me in the direction of the problem with these?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:02 am
by alliswell
Mullet 2 wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
alliswell wrote:
What's wrong with any of that?
More fun to complain and read stuff that backs up your views.
The two biggest commie c unts on the bored see no problem with the Times shocker :lol:
You not a Noel Whelan fan? A good FF man, surely.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:04 am
by danthefan
Someone tried to set the KBC head office on fire last night. Scum.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:06 am
by Mullet 2
You will of course be able to point me to the numerous Trump pieces from the other perspective printed in the Times since he took office.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:07 am
by MunsterMan!!!!!
danthefan wrote:Someone tried to set the KBC head office on fire last night. Scum.

FFS this is getting out of hand. The three independent TDs that protested by bring a coffee into a branch are also scum.

Edit: Coffin not coffee!

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:08 am
by Nolanator
danthefan wrote:Someone tried to set the KBC head office on fire last night. Scum.
FFS. That's f**king ridiculous.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:10 am
by CM11
We have 'balance' in our media. Unfortunately balance means every viewpoint, no matter how accurate or valid, is given equal standing. As a result, accurate analysis gets drowned out.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:14 am
by Bullettyme
danthefan wrote:Someone tried to set the KBC head office on fire last night. Scum.
Saw that. This is very dangerous territory now. Misguided scum.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:14 am
by Mullet 2
CM11 wrote:We have 'balance' in our media. Unfortunately balance means every viewpoint, no matter how accurate or valid, is given equal standing. As a result, accurate analysis gets drowned out.

we don't

That is certainly true during referendums but there is no balance outside of those times.

There is a left wing and socially liberal homogeny across the entire Irish media.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:22 am
by Liathroidigloine
Mullet 2 wrote:
CM11 wrote:We have 'balance' in our media. Unfortunately balance means every viewpoint, no matter how accurate or valid, is given equal standing. As a result, accurate analysis gets drowned out.

we don't

That is certainly true during referendums but there is no balance outside of those times.


There is a left wing and socially liberal homogeny across the entire Irish media.
I'd disagree with this in the sense that all viewpoints are given an airing but the media have had a clear bias to one side in all recent referenda.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:25 am
by Blackrock Bullet
alliswell wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:Liathroid would prefer if the Times was wall to wall Myers and Waters.
No, but some balance wouldn't go astray. We don't have that with our main news sources anymore.
And today's opinion pieces are:

Noel Whelan
The British government is dangerously out of its depth

OWEN POLLEY
Unionist opposition to the Brexit deal is completely reasonable

SUZANNE LYNCH
Could Donald Trump be on the verge of his Watergate?

Could you point me in the direction of the problem with these?
What's your point?

This stuff about balance because you have a few opinion columnists from "the other side" shows a complete misunderstanding of what media balance is actually about. Fox News opinion slate will bring plenty of left wing people on, it doesn't change the editorial stance of their opinion slates.

What is important in a newspaper is the editorial line and what is pushed. On the Irish Times website you will see Una Mullally and Fintan O'Toole always pushed on the front page. Fintan is very much the tone setter in the IT as assistant editor, the rest wraps around him. The IT employs the likes of Kitty Holland (and takes opinion pieces from her father) where she is given free rein to "report" on issues rather than just any old opinion piece. Look at how John Waters was pushed out of the IT and the attitude and behavior of other journalists to him. Look at the twitter feed of the likes of Michael O'Regan...

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:26 am
by Blackrock Bullet
Looks like someone tried to burn KBC's HQ down in Dublin...

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:30 am
by sewa
Mullet 2 wrote:You will of course be able to point me to the numerous Trump pieces from the other perspective printed in the Times since he took office.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... nistration

Whilst its not the Times I think this is very balanced. It calls him out for being a complete fooking moron.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:36 am
by Liathroidigloine
Blackrock Bullet wrote:
alliswell wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:Liathroid would prefer if the Times was wall to wall Myers and Waters.
No, but some balance wouldn't go astray. We don't have that with our main news sources anymore.
And today's opinion pieces are:

Noel Whelan
The British government is dangerously out of its depth

OWEN POLLEY
Unionist opposition to the Brexit deal is completely reasonable

SUZANNE LYNCH
Could Donald Trump be on the verge of his Watergate?

Could you point me in the direction of the problem with these?
What's your point?

This stuff about balance because you have a few opinion columnists from "the other side" shows a complete misunderstanding of what media balance is actually about. Fox News opinion slate will bring plenty of left wing people on, it doesn't change the editorial stance of their opinion slates.

What is important in a newspaper is the editorial line and what is pushed. On the Irish Times website you will see Una Mullally and Fintan O'Toole always pushed on the front page. Fintan is very much the tone setter in the IT as assistant editor, the rest wraps around him. The IT employs the likes of Kitty Holland (and takes opinion pieces from her father) where she is given free rein to "report" on issues rather than just any old opinion piece. Look at how John Waters was pushed out of the IT and the attitude and behavior of other journalists to him. Look at the twitter feed of the likes of Michael O'Regan...
Lorna Siggins during the Shell to Sea protests was a perfect example.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:38 am
by Blackrock Bullet
The New York Times in January on Syria

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/19/opin ... trump.html
As of last month, there were about 2,000 American troops in Syria — up from 500 a year ago — a mix of engineering units and Special Operations units that fight and train with local militias in the battle against the Islamic State. Now that we know they will be there indefinitely, who can say the number won’t go higher and the mission won’t creep more?

Syria is a complex problem. But this plan seems poorly conceived, too dependent on military action and fueled by wishful thinking.
The NY Times now;

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/20/opin ... e=Homepage

An American withdrawal would also be a gift to Vladimir Putin, the Russian leader, who has been working hard to supplant American influence in the region and who, on Thursday, enthusiastically welcomed the decision, saying, “Donald’s right.” Another beneficiary is Iran, which has also expanded its regional footprint. It would certainly make it harder for the Trump administration to implement its policy of ratcheting up what it calls “maximum pressure” on Iran.
And to chaps wonder why the media is losing trust...

Reminds me of the Irish who were crying over the EU’s role in our debt crisis but have gone to the mattresses over Brexit.