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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:17 pm 
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Dublin City Council heading for a FF/Green/SD alliance.

A portent of things to come?

At least it's not a bunch of Indy spas, but it's discouraging.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:19 pm 
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RTE Tracker :

https://www.rte.ie/news/elections-2019/ ... y/pembroke


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:20 pm 
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I didn't realise Cuffe was running for the council as well. How does the nomination of an alternative work? Can it be anyone or is it a list that is available beforehand?

Seems a bit odd you can be elected for two different positions and then just put anyone you want into the role if you get elected twice. What's the logic?


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:21 pm 
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camroc1 wrote:


Greens could have gotten two in there, and elsewhere, in hindsight.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:23 pm 
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So City hall will actually address local issues and not Israel /Palestine flag issues now that the shinners have lost control


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:25 pm 
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So City hall will actually address local issues and not Israel /Palestine flag issues now that the shinners have lost control


You'd hope so.

What was the alliance beforehand? SF plus assorted loonies enough to control it?


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:25 pm 
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So City hall will actually address local issues and not Israel /Palestine flag issues now that the shinners have lost control

None of those stupid f**king neckerchief plum, thank fook.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:29 pm 
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iarmhiman wrote:
So City hall will actually address local issues and not Israel /Palestine flag issues now that the shinners have lost control

And also accommodate sensible development rather than hoard sites just to give the finger to the property developers.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:35 pm 
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It looks like 2 FF, 2 FG and 2 Ind in my area. No SF, no Labour and the Greens outdoing them both but not enough to get to the quota. An area noted for being the archetypal commuter town. My future vote in a GE will go towards anyone who helps me back to a home within walking distance of a late bar and Musgrave park.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:37 pm 
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camroc1 wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
So City hall will actually address local issues and not Israel /Palestine flag issues now that the shinners have lost control

And also accommodate sensible development rather than hoard sites just to give the finger to the property developers.


Bet they will deliver housing. The council's have been basket cases for years


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EverReady wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
So City hall will actually address local issues and not Israel /Palestine flag issues now that the shinners have lost control

And also accommodate sensible development rather than hoard sites just to give the finger to the property developers.


Bet they will deliver housing. The council's have been basket cases for years

DCC don't want to be landlords in the first place, as the cost of maintenance is absolutely crippling given the number of tenants who are on reduced, or no rents.


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EverReady wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
So City hall will actually address local issues and not Israel /Palestine flag issues now that the shinners have lost control

And also accommodate sensible development rather than hoard sites just to give the finger to the property developers.


Bet they will deliver housing. The council's have been basket cases for years

Whether the council is a basket case or not, they'll still get fudge all done. Council is set up to be a failure no matter who its members are. The whole thing needs reform. Hopefully it will be seen and addressed now that there isn't the "they're wasting all their time talking about Palestine" excuse.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:56 pm 
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CM11 wrote:

Seems a bit odd you can be elected for two different positions and then just put anyone you want into the role if you get elected twice. What's the logic?


The logic is that he can install a Green member who has possibly zero community profile and have the power of the seat to affect voting on issues. The member then has a few years to build up their profile in the area and has a good chance of retaining the seat next time around.
It's the ultimate "hanging onto the coat tails of others" method to get a seat.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 1:03 pm 
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The local government co-option thing is purely to save money by avoiding the need to have a by election.


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Clontarf is in:

Independent
Green
FF
FG
Labour
Soc Dem

The bolded are not returning councillors. Sinn Fein and FF both lost a seat but the FF candidate was not the sotting councillor.


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camroc1 wrote:
EverReady wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
So City hall will actually address local issues and not Israel /Palestine flag issues now that the shinners have lost control

And also accommodate sensible development rather than hoard sites just to give the finger to the property developers.


Bet they will deliver housing. The council's have been basket cases for years

DCC don't want to be landlords in the first place, as the cost of maintenance is absolutely crippling given the number of tenants who are on reduced, or no rents.

Recently I read up to 40% of tenants in Dublin were in arrears.


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Whispers that Carthy may be in a bit of trouble


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So in the locals it looks to be a good day for Greens, FF, social dem. OK day for FG and Lab, shit for SF


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MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:
So in the locals it looks to be a good day for Greens, FF, social dem. OK day for FG and Lab, shit for SF


Not seeing much love for PBP but not sure what base they were coming from.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 2:26 pm 
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CM11 wrote:
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:
So in the locals it looks to be a good day for Greens, FF, social dem. OK day for FG and Lab, shit for SF


Not seeing much love for PBP but not sure what base they were coming from.


PBP and particularly Solidarity saw this as a watershed election. It has been on a way as the electorate has pissed all over their dreams.


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Martin vindicated in his brave move putting the party square behind repealing the 8th.


2% in 18-24

Are you the SF political strategist?

You're a bit too serious for your own good sometimes.


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Uncle Fester wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:
Martin vindicated in his brave move putting the party square behind repealing the 8th.


2% in 18-24

Are you the SF political strategist?

You're a bit too serious for your own good sometimes.


Ah both were very decent efforts


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 4:28 pm 
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camroc1 wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
So City hall will actually address local issues and not Israel /Palestine flag issues now that the shinners have lost control

And also accommodate sensible development rather than hoard sites just to give the finger to the property developers.

You'd hope so. But stuff like this - redevelopment of manhattan cafe blocked - doesn't give much confidence. The Greens were happy to team up with SF/IND/WP to block the redevelopment of what has been an eyesore for decades. All with no credible alternative for the tiny site except blah blah, should be community arts space, cultural blah, something about the homeless, blah blah. So the whole block will probably remain derelict for a decades more.

They also NIMBYed up to scupper the metrolink plan so Dublin gets a castrated metro line with city centre terminus - 19th century style rail infrastructure - instead of linking up with 8km of metro-compatible track a few meters away from the terminus.


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I would like to have a lot of time for the Greens but cannot. Cuffe recently voted against development on the Charlemount/Harcourt corner because he remembered going there after Coppers for a bite to eat. Ryan helped block the Metro southside. They are also part of the cycling zealots out there.


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derriz wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
So City hall will actually address local issues and not Israel /Palestine flag issues now that the shinners have lost control

And also accommodate sensible development rather than hoard sites just to give the finger to the property developers.

You'd hope so. But stuff like this - redevelopment of manhattan cafe blocked - doesn't give much confidence. The Greens were happy to team up with SF/IND/WP to block the redevelopment of what has been an eyesore for decades. All with no credible alternative for the tiny site except blah blah, should be community arts space, cultural blah, something about the homeless, blah blah. So the whole block will probably remain derelict for a decades more.

They also NIMBYed up to scupper the metrolink plan so Dublin gets a castrated metro line with city centre terminus - 19th century style rail infrastructure - instead of linking up with 8km of metro-compatible track a few meters away from the terminus.


Exactly.

I understand that they are scarred by their time in Government but they are absolutists these days- development must be how they like it. Lots of strange alliances they have.

It is going to be the same old same old anti hi rise and profit making ethos from DCC.


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Floppykid wrote:
CM11 wrote:
Dublin City Council heading for a FF/Green/SD alliance.

A portent of things to come?

At least it's not a bunch of Indy spas, but it's discouraging.


Fine Gael falling between too stools and staying semi populist :frown:. It was as their time to grasp the nettle and become the party that stood for the tax payers that pay for everything and they totally fecked it up.


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See PBP went after Murphy at one of the counts. They are clearly not going down the 'let's persuade the electorate of how reasonable we can be'


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 6:24 pm 
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So Leo hints at a General election. When will this be?

September or early next year?


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https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/pol ... 48991.html

She really doesn't get the problem people have with her.


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Eliminated candidate abusing Murphy.

"The People" the people don't want you you Trot cúnt


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Mullet 2 wrote:
Eliminated candidate abusing Murphy.

"The People" the people don't want you you Trot cúnt

Rahoo.
Ming f**king Flanagan next please.


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CM11 wrote:
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/nobody-was-drunk-i-just-wanted-my-7k-medical-bill-paid-maria-bailey-td-on-swing-fall-38148991.html

She really doesn't get the problem people have with her.



Interesting line here:

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and some time later met a manager and found him pleasant to deal with, telling her to send them the bills and the hotel would deal with it.


Silly manager if that's what happened. Left them open to a case by saying she could send them the bill. That in itself could be seemed to admitting a form of liability rather than a sign of good faith.

Some neck on her though. Vile woman


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Leinsterman wrote:
CM11 wrote:
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/nobody-was-drunk-i-just-wanted-my-7k-medical-bill-paid-maria-bailey-td-on-swing-fall-38148991.html

She really doesn't get the problem people have with her.



Interesting line here:

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and some time later met a manager and found him pleasant to deal with, telling her to send them the bills and the hotel would deal with it.


Silly manager if that's what happened. Left them open to a case by saying she could send them the bill. That in itself could be seemed to admitting a form of liability rather than a sign of good faith.

Some neck on her though. Vile woman


Yep. Said it above, hotel would have been better off offering her nothing.


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Does Bimbo earnestly believe the UK can renegotiate all of their trade from a WTO base, overnight and all at the same time? :uhoh:


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Does Bimbo earnestly believe the UK can renegotiate all of their trade from a WTO base, overnight and all at the same time? :uhoh:


They could do trade deals fast but they would be deals of desperation. The countries dealing with them would ride them senseless and get back all they lost to the EU in their deals with them. If the UK want deals good for the UK they will have to negotiate for years.

Trump for instance will screw UK heavily as will Japan and India


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Does Bimbo earnestly believe the UK can renegotiate all of their trade from a WTO base, overnight and all at the same time? :uhoh:


They could do trade deals fast but they would be deals of desperation. The countries dealing with them would ride them senseless and get back all they lost to the EU in their deals with them. If the UK want deals good for the UK they will have to negotiate for years.

Trump for instance will screw UK heavily as will Japan and India

He seems to be labouring under the delusion that the UK has the same heft that the EU does when it comes to trade.
It's as if the past three years haven't happened.


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Because trade negotiation has been outsourced to the EU the UK also lacks the expertise and experience too, or so I've been told.


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Mullet 2 wrote:
Eliminated candidate abusing Murphy.

"The People" the people don't want you you Trot cúnt


What's this all about?


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Mullet 2 wrote:
Eliminated candidate abusing Murphy.

"The People" the people don't want you you Trot cúnt

The working classes have seen the disdain that PBP have for them. I wonder how "digestible" Paul Murphy is finding his absolute raw dicking.


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Mullet 2 wrote:
Eliminated candidate abusing Murphy.

"The People" the people don't want you you Trot cúnt


What's this all about?

One of the ousted PBP lads set his rabble on Eoghan Murphy at the count centre.


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