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Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:53 pm
by iarmhiman
sewa wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
sewa wrote:
We are already after hiring the border staff, no border is a work of fiction unless the Brits accept the WA
For me if the choice is a border on the island or an open customs border to mainland Europe, it's the latter every time.
The border will be on the island, they have left slip plenty of times that they are preparing for it. Putting a customs border between us and Europe is unworkable
And then we join Schengen.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:55 pm
by sewa
iarmhiman wrote:
sewa wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
sewa wrote:
We are already after hiring the border staff, no border is a work of fiction unless the Brits accept the WA
For me if the choice is a border on the island or an open customs border to mainland Europe, it's the latter every time.
The border will be on the island, they have left slip plenty of times that they are preparing for it. Putting a customs border between us and Europe is unworkable
And then we join Schengen.
Joining Schengen could happen down the line but that makes the border permanent. I imagine they will keep it temporary for now and let reality sink in up North.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:21 pm
by camroc1
Mullet 2 wrote:Very simple.

Make absolutely no effort to check goods leaving the Republic. Make every effort to check goods entering the Republic and choke the kip.
Which is what will happen if the UK doesn't reciprocate.

A week of chaos at Dover should bring them to some sense.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:55 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
camroc1 wrote:
ticketlessinseattle wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:
themaddog wrote:
EverReady wrote:It's leylandi alright and we will do the clear. Spicy enough though we reckon. Could be cool though if we get the neighbours in on it. Going to have seatings areas and hammacls and pergolas blah blah. Thanks for the advice lads
I've 220m of the fúcking things. Will you clear mine when you're at it?
Get a chainsaw and start hacking away at them.
They make great firewood.
on this topic - I moved into our gaff last year - there's a dividing wall with our neighbours that will probably fall down soon. They've got a huge tree by the wall that has branches coming into our back garden and very close to windows in upstairs bedroom. Personally I'm not too bothered but missus next door has brought up with my missus about rebuilding the wall. We haven't discussed it with them but it'll come up at some point, I wouldn't put anything towards the costs until they did something about the tree - the roots of which are probably causing the wall to resemble a Kerry full back line (for Zappa if he's about)
You are legally allowed to cut off any branches growing over/into your garden, provided you give your neighbour the branches (his property).
Cheers....I,ll start digging up the roots tonight and fcuk them over the wall

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:57 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
camroc1 wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:Very simple.

Make absolutely no effort to check goods leaving the Republic. Make every effort to check goods entering the Republic and choke the kip.
Which is what will happen if the UK doesn't reciprocate.

A week of chaos at Dover should bring them to some sense.
That's what baffles me...what did they think was going to happen at Dover on April 2nd, will happen there on November 1st ?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:17 pm
by Nolanator
ticketlessinseattle wrote:Cheers....I,ll start digging up the roots tonight and fcuk them over the wall
Dig directly down on your side of the wall and hack the shit out of any roots that have grown across to your side. :thumbup:

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:17 pm
by Uncle Fester
iarmhiman wrote:Read this on the torygraph today.

Could this happen? It would be quite a bitter pill to swallow to keep an open border:
The Irish backstop was designed jointly by the EU and the Irish and British governments to protect against the return of an Irish border, but if it backfires by triggering a ‘no deal’ outcome, it will have become entirely self-defeating.

Because if ‘no deal’ becomes the default position of the British government, then Mr Varadkar can expect the choice to be framed between accepting the long-term risk of a ‘no deal’ - after a hunt for alternative arrangements fails or a putative time-limit expires - over the imminent chaos of a ‘no deal’ this year.

It is this trade-off that sees some EU member states speculating privately that Mr Varadkar might yet agree to a ‘time-limit’ to the backstop, as the pressure starts to bite in autumn. The Irish side remains adamant it will not budge.


Still, the EU are fully expecting Mr Johnson to put the heat on Mr Varadkar who - as his own central bank warned last week - faces a four percentage point drop in GDP in the first year of a ‘no deal’ and average incomes losses per head of Irish population estimated at €720 (£640) - seven times those of Germany.

The EU remains foursquare behind Dublin, but at the same time it is making very clear - as we report today - that in a ‘no deal’ it will expect Ireland to live up to its obligations as a member of the EU single market.

Mr Varadkar accepts these obligations, but in a ‘no deal’ is still presented with an invidious choice between erecting a trade border in Ireland, or diluting Irish single market status by accepting checks between Ireland and the Continent.

Mr Varadkar and the Commission prefer to skate over this hard choice, arguing instead that the British government must live up to the “letter and spirit” of the Good Friday Agreement and do what is necessary to avoid a land border.
It makes the usual mistake of assuming that all the blame for failure to reach a deal lies with everybody other than themselves.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:25 pm
by camroc1
The CTA means there will be no problem with the movement of people across the border.

Irish customs will designate a number of road crossings for checking incoming freight,with strict penalties for those who try to avoid.

They will ignore freight going north.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:20 am
by ticketlessinseattle
Nolanator wrote:
ticketlessinseattle wrote:Cheers....I,ll start digging up the roots tonight and fcuk them over the wall
Dig directly down on your side of the wall and hack the shit out of any roots that have grown across to your side. :thumbup:

:thumbup: I do see a potential downside to this but fcuk it.....

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:21 am
by anonymous_joe
ticketlessinseattle wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
ticketlessinseattle wrote:Cheers....I,ll start digging up the roots tonight and fcuk them over the wall
Dig directly down on your side of the wall and hack the shit out of any roots that have grown across to your side. :thumbup:

:thumbup: I do see a potential downside to this but fcuk it.....
I wouldn't do that if I were you.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:16 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
anonymous_joe wrote:
ticketlessinseattle wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
ticketlessinseattle wrote:Cheers....I,ll start digging up the roots tonight and fcuk them over the wall
Dig directly down on your side of the wall and hack the shit out of any roots that have grown across to your side. :thumbup:

:thumbup: I do see a potential downside to this but fcuk it.....
I wouldn't do that if I were you.
too late.....top of the tree is now in my bedroom......showed that fcuker !

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:39 pm
by Duff Paddy
anonymous_joe wrote:
ticketlessinseattle wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
ticketlessinseattle wrote:Cheers....I,ll start digging up the roots tonight and fcuk them over the wall
Dig directly down on your side of the wall and hack the shit out of any roots that have grown across to your side. :thumbup:

:thumbup: I do see a potential downside to this but fcuk it.....
I wouldn't do that if I were you.
Is he not entitled to remove roots that have grown into his side of the boundary?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:31 pm
by anonymous_joe
Neighbour disputes about tree encroachment are more hassle than they're worth.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:39 pm
by camroc1
anonymous_joe wrote:Neighbour disputes about tree encroachment are more hassle than they're worth.
Are you saying that the Citizens Information Board is incorrect ?
Trees and hedges
You do not have a right to cut down such a tree without the consent of your neighbour. Overhanging trees or encroaching roots may be regarded as a nuisance and you are entitled to cut back the overhanging or encroaching branches or roots to the boundary line.
http://www.citizensinformationboard.ie/ ... 17_12.docx

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:13 pm
by danthefan
camroc1 wrote:
anonymous_joe wrote:Neighbour disputes about tree encroachment are more hassle than they're worth.
Are you saying that the Citizens Information Board is incorrect ?
Trees and hedges
You do not have a right to cut down such a tree without the consent of your neighbour. Overhanging trees or encroaching roots may be regarded as a nuisance and you are entitled to cut back the overhanging or encroaching branches or roots to the boundary line.
http://www.citizensinformationboard.ie/ ... 17_12.docx
He should just play the old solicitor trick, 'how was I meant to know they were your roots?'

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:35 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
anonymous_joe wrote:Neighbour disputes about tree encroachment are more hassle than they're worth.
and you call yourself a lawyer ?! I thought the MO was to create issues you didn't have and bill you to "solve" them. atta boy Cammy

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:46 pm
by Floppykid

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:40 pm
by anonymous_joe
camroc1 wrote:
anonymous_joe wrote:Neighbour disputes about tree encroachment are more hassle than they're worth.
Are you saying that the Citizens Information Board is incorrect ?
Trees and hedges
You do not have a right to cut down such a tree without the consent of your neighbour. Overhanging trees or encroaching roots may be regarded as a nuisance and you are entitled to cut back the overhanging or encroaching branches or roots to the boundary line.
http://www.citizensinformationboard.ie/ ... 17_12.docx
:lol:

You really are a moron.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:07 pm
by Duff Paddy
These siptu striking healthcare peripheral workers are an utter disgrace. An illegal strike without going to through the labour court and they expect us to believe “it’s not about the money”. Vulnerable sick patients are going to suffer serious cancellations because of siptu playing their political games.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:28 pm
by camroc1
Duff Paddy wrote:These siptu striking healthcare peripheral workers are an utter disgrace. An illegal strike without going to through the labour court and they expect us to believe “it’s not about the money”. Vulnerable sick patients are going to suffer serious cancellations because of siptu playing their political games.
I doubt the strike is illegal, as the unions assets could be at risk if it was.

I do agree that we need to look again at some of the legal rights that unions have.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:50 pm
by danthefan
Any of you have experience of replacing lead pipes in a house, I assume it's a massive ball ache? Requires digging up the front garden? Bought a c.100 year old house and got our water tested, when sitting in the pipes overnight it's 5 times the current legal limit and after flushing out the pipes it's over twice the limit. There's a recent enough extension on the back that has the mains tap and obviously doesn't have lead pipes but they mustn't have replaced the rest of the pipes when building it.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:54 pm
by Mullet 2
Nothinges wrong with it.

Get you buzzed

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:55 pm
by camroc1
danthefan wrote:Any of you have experience of replacing lead pipes in a house, I assume it's a massive ball ache? Requires digging up the garden? Bought a c.100 year old house and got our water tested, when sitting in the pipes overnight it's 5 times the current legal limit and after flushing out the pipes it's over twice the limit.
Connection will be at the meter in the pavement, in an urban area, or outside your gate in a rural one.

If an urban terrace, you are talking about a hand dug trench to the house, and then running internally to the kitchen.

If you live half way up a mountain a machine can slit trench and lay the new watermain to the house.

I assume the internal lead plumbing has been previously replaced ?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:55 pm
by danthefan
Mullet 2 wrote:Nothinges wrong with it.

Get you buzzed
If it was just me I wouldn't bother.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:59 pm
by danthefan
camroc1 wrote:
danthefan wrote:Any of you have experience of replacing lead pipes in a house, I assume it's a massive ball ache? Requires digging up the garden? Bought a c.100 year old house and got our water tested, when sitting in the pipes overnight it's 5 times the current legal limit and after flushing out the pipes it's over twice the limit.
Connection will be at the meter in the pavement, in an urban area, or outside your gate in a rural one.

If an urban terrace, you are talking about a hand dug trench to the house, and then running internally to the kitchen.

If you live half way up a mountain a machine can slit trench and lay the new watermain to the house.

I assume the internal lead plumbing has been previously replaced ?
It's a mid terrace. I popped open the metre cover but can't see any piping. I don't really know about all the internal pipes, my concerns are with the drinking water. But yes does sound like a huge ball ache from what you've described.

Edit, there's plastic piping supplying the upstairs sink so something has been done there anyway.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:01 pm
by camroc1
danthefan wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
danthefan wrote:Any of you have experience of replacing lead pipes in a house, I assume it's a massive ball ache? Requires digging up the garden? Bought a c.100 year old house and got our water tested, when sitting in the pipes overnight it's 5 times the current legal limit and after flushing out the pipes it's over twice the limit.
Connection will be at the meter in the pavement, in an urban area, or outside your gate in a rural one.

If an urban terrace, you are talking about a hand dug trench to the house, and then running internally to the kitchen.

If you live half way up a mountain a machine can slit trench and lay the new watermain to the house.

I assume the internal lead plumbing has been previously replaced ?
It's a mid terrace. I popped open the metre cover but can't see any piping. I don't really know about all the internal pipes, my concerns are with the drinking water. But yes does sound like a huge ball ache from what you've described.
Have a look under the kitchen sink and see if the pipes on the house side of the stopcock are copper or lead.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:03 pm
by danthefan
I edited above, the kitchen is in a post year 2000 extension so definitely not a lead pipe all the way to the kitchen sink.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:06 pm
by camroc1
What's the distance from the meter box to the house ?

The trench has to be 900mm deep, and only narrow enough to accommodate the pipe. Any competent plumber could do it in half a day. The problem will be getting one who will do such a small job.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:11 pm
by danthefan
camroc1 wrote:What's the distance from the meter box to the house ?

The trench has to be 900mm deep, and only narrow enough to accommodate the pipe. Any competent plumber could do it in half a day. The problem will be getting one who will do such a small job.
It's fairly close, maybe 15-20 feet? The house has suspended timber floors, would the mains pipe under the house be buried too or just under the floorboards?

We already had a crowd in to totally update our heating so might just get onto them again.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:15 pm
by camroc1
danthefan wrote:
camroc1 wrote:What's the distance from the meter box to the house ?

The trench has to be 900mm deep, and only narrow enough to accommodate the pipe. Any competent plumber could do it in half a day. The problem will be getting one who will do such a small job.
It's fairly close, maybe 15-20 feet? The house has suspended timber floors, would the mains pipe under the house be buried too or just under the floorboards?

We already had a crowd in to totally update our heating so much just get onto them again.
Just under the floorboards. The depth of trench is to prevent freezing, which is not a problem once internal.

The plumbers might not like trench digging - so maybe get a lad to dig that seperately ?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:35 pm
by Gavin Duffy
There’s a grant scheme for replacing lead pipes, the government will cover 80% of the costs. Details should be somewhere on the Irish Water website.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:41 pm
by danthefan
Gavin Duffy wrote:There’s a grant scheme for replacing lead pipes, the government will cover 80% of the costs. Details should be somewhere on the Irish Water website.
Yeah looked into that, there's a fairly modest household income cap on it so we don't qualify.


And thanks Cam, now that you mention it I have a guy I can contact.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:45 pm
by Gavin Duffy
danthefan wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:There’s a grant scheme for replacing lead pipes, the government will cover 80% of the costs. Details should be somewhere on the Irish Water website.
Yeah looked into that, there's a fairly modest household income cap on it so we don't qualify.


And thanks Cam, now that you mention it I have a guy I can contact.
Helps explain the low uptake.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:52 pm
by camroc1
danthefan wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:There’s a grant scheme for replacing lead pipes, the government will cover 80% of the costs. Details should be somewhere on the Irish Water website.
Yeah looked into that, there's a fairly modest household income cap on it so we don't qualify.


And thanks Cam, now that you mention it I have a guy I can contact.
Standard Irish Water requirements here :


https://www.water.ie/connections/Water- ... etails.pdf

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:55 pm
by Mullet 2
Keep an eye on Boris Johnson thread lads, you're about to see a beaut :lol:

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:41 am
by anonymous_joe
Seneca et al trying to pretend he's smart or something?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:54 am
by Nolanator
anonymous_joe wrote:Seneca et al trying to pretend he's smart or something?
That Boris is smart or that Seneca is smart?

Seneca's whole shtick is the pseudo-intellectual arrogance acting as a cover for fairly straightforward racism.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:59 am
by ticketlessinseattle
Mullet 2 wrote:Keep an eye on Boris Johnson thread lads, you're about to see a beaut :lol:
swarm.....advance

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:19 pm
by Floppykid
Jesus, just saw your man Jonathan O'Brien talking to the head of the HSE. Wearing a f**king t shirt and covered in tatts. x(

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:24 pm
by camroc1
Nice picture of progress on the North runway :

Image

Also shows what a pretty city Dublin is, with the port in the mid range and Dun Laoghaire, Killiney Hill and Dalkey Island in the background.