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Who will win the Leinster Schools Senior Cup 2018
Poll ended at Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:07 pm
Blackrock 12%  12%  [ 3 ]
Belvedere 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Clongowes 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Terenure 12%  12%  [ 3 ]
St. Mary's 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
St. Michael's 31%  31%  [ 8 ]
Roscrea 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Gonzaga 12%  12%  [ 3 ]
Castleknock 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Gerards 15%  15%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 26
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 Post subject: Irish School Rugby 2018
PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:07 pm 
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Hi all,

New to the forum here.

Been on Boards and found it oppressive to supporters of the schools game so decided to make the switch.

Anyone with any news of the schools game please post here.

As I am a Leinster man I will start the ball rolling with predictions for the Cup this year.

Rock and Belvo look favourites followed closely by Clongowes and Michaels.

Dark horses Roscrea seem to be down the pecking order this year after their League appearances but semi finalists from 2011 Gerards look good again.

Any news, predictions or scores please post here.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:10 pm 
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don't suppose you used to post here under the ID of REFRY, did you ?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:10 pm 
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Your forgetting a few schools


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:12 pm 
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I've only seen Rock and Michaels in action over the last few months ..... and Michaels look better


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:13 pm 
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goose81 wrote:
Your forgetting a few schools


Do these forgotten schools teach grammar and spelling ?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:14 pm 
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We like to be oppressive here to lads who didn't go to Private Schools. The filthy plebs.


Now, how dare you start a new thread for your first post you Noob scum.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:17 pm 
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Shameless sectarianism.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:21 pm 
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goose81 wrote:
Your forgetting a few schools


Pres Bray
Newbridge
St. Fintans
St. Andrews

2 other Vinny Murray qualifiers.

The poll only takes 10 options so I put in the top 4 qualifiers from the League.


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Diego wrote:
Shameless sectarianism.


agreed.

leaving the likes of Kings Hos, Kilkenny, St Andrews and Columbas out of the conversation is a disgrace


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:22 pm 
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Don't we have a schools rugby thread?

I don't know how things work on this Boards but this dog aint gonna hunt


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rfurlong wrote:
Diego wrote:
Shameless sectarianism.


agreed.

leaving the likes of Kings Hos, Kilkenny, St Andrews and Columbas out of the conversation is a disgrace

Wilson's too.


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rfurlong wrote:
Diego wrote:
Shameless sectarianism.


agreed.

leaving the likes of Kings Hos, Kilkenny, St Andrews and Columbas out of the conversation is a disgrace



Bank of Ireland Senior Cup – Round 1

Belvedere College v Gonzaga College
Terenure College v St Michael’s College
Vinnie Murray Cup Qualifier 2 v Cistercian College, Roscrea
St Fintan’s High School v St Gerard’s
Blackrock College v Castleknock College
Newbridge College v Presentation College, Bray
Clongowes v Vinnie Murray Cup Qualifier 1
St Mary’s College v St Andrew’s College

3 of your teams are not included in the draw so I didn't leave them out.

CBC might qualify also.


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rfurlong wrote:
I've only seen Rock and Michaels in action over the last few months ..... and Michaels look better


Have to say I think Clongowes look good myself.

Dark horses as ever keeping their cards close to their chests.

Don't think Michael's have the coaches to squeeze victory out in the later rounds.


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Awful OP.

Where are the pictures?
The draw?
The highlight packages?
The narratives about each school including but not limited to historical references/religious order references/negative stories from schools past/notable alumni

Additionally - Irish Schools Rugby? The preeminent schoolboy tournament in Ireland doesn’t share the stage with the two bit tournaments elsewhere.

I’m seething.

P.S. Rock rule Leinster


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Blackrock Bullet wrote:
Awful OP.

Where are the pictures?
The draw?
The highlight packages?
The narratives about each school including but not limited to historical references/religious order references/negative stories from schools past/notable alumni

Additionally - Irish Schools Rugby? The preeminent schoolboy tournament in Ireland doesn’t share the stage with the two bit tournaments elsewhere.

I’m seething.

P.S. Rock rule Leinster


Wait until Rain Man arrives.

he'll go nuts, even though he is a public school knacker.


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Flaky15 wrote:
rfurlong wrote:
I've only seen Rock and Michaels in action over the last few months ..... and Michaels look better


Have to say I think Clongowes look good myself.

Dark horses as ever keeping their cards close to their chests.

Don't think Michael's have the coaches to squeeze victory out in the later rounds.

Tell your story walkin' noob.


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Mullet 2 wrote:
Blackrock Bullet wrote:
Awful OP.

Where are the pictures?
The draw?
The highlight packages?
The narratives about each school including but not limited to historical references/religious order references/negative stories from schools past/notable alumni

Additionally - Irish Schools Rugby? The preeminent schoolboy tournament in Ireland doesn’t share the stage with the two bit tournaments elsewhere.

I’m seething.

P.S. Rock rule Leinster


Wait until Rain Man arrives.

he'll go nuts, even though he is a public school knacker.


He has the lowdown all the way down to the Senior 5ths in Belvo doesn’t he? Knowledge is power.

To be fair at least he likes it. There used to be a guy on Boards.ie who would run into the schools thread daily moaning that the clubs couldn’t access the players. It’s bad enough that the Bank of Ireland Leinster Schools Senior Challenge Cup has to tolerate mucksavages bought in from Connacht playing in Munster schools, but when the schools rugby haters start petitioning for Carlow Town RFC to be on the same footing you just long for the days when nobody outside the select few cared about rugby in this country.


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Those were the days


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Blackrock Bullet wrote:
Awful OP.

Where are the pictures?
The draw?
The highlight packages?
The narratives about each school including but not limited to historical references/religious order references/negative stories from schools past/notable alumni

Additionally - Irish Schools Rugby? The preeminent schoolboy tournament in Ireland doesn’t share the stage with the two bit tournaments elsewhere.

I’m seething.

P.S. Rock rule Leinster

Pfft, your "Senior Cup" is a newcomer, the Royal School Armagh had already won the real Schools Cup 6 times before your's had even started.


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Think the Cup has lost of a lot of its prestige without its seeding format.

Draws for each round don't favour merit and can result in the best teams meeting/going out early in the tournament.

Probably favours League teams going on runs / getting easier opponents in early rounds.


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There was never seeding you ape.


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Blackrock Bullet wrote:
There was never seeding you ape.


That's news to me.

From what I remember the Top 6 were never drawn against each other in the first round.

And there wasn't a draw every round so the bigger schools would be likely to meet later in the competition.

I will take it from your tone you are more interested in insulting and trying to trip people up than you are in talking about the structure and makeup of the tournament so don't bother responding to me - I won't be to you


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Incorrect. You are simply wrong.

The best paid Irish rugby player at the moment was the victim of such a defeat in his final year in school, after racing 20 points up. There are numerous games I can detail.

As for the open draw round by round, it makes zero difference.

If you’re going to join this place to post about schools rugby at least have an appreciation of its history.


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Flaxy we are all co-sexualists here and expect the girls schools teams to get equal billing. You can sort that out at your leisure.


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I am all for improving schools rugby and I think it is something that could benefit the tournament greatly.

A completely random draw results in top teams going out sooner and weaker teams staying in it longer.

Some may favour this but I would argue it doesn't favour merit.

The question therefore if such a format were to be adopted would be how to seed teams in such a scenario.

In this case I would argue for the pre season used to "rank" teams before the Cup draw were to take place.


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Fishy the draw was always random.

Drawing between rounds is literally the only change, which makes no difference.

You could theoretically draw Belvedere in the first round, Clongowrs next et cetera. It was simply determined at the start.

I’m getting angry now reading your posts so wise up and do some research.


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How about Munster, who are favourites this year?

I had a gander over on PP and there are no odds. Is this to do with any policy implemented to stop gambling on underage schools sports?


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Who would win in a scrap between Flaky and BB?


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Society


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Flaky don't mind these shits. I am actually a black belt in Karate and they are all scared out of their faces of me. I am also into body building and stuff. Do you want to see a photo?


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ZappaMan wrote:
Who would win in a scrap between Flaky and BB?


Listen he’s very very lucky I’m far too old for Wesley now, he’d have a gang of obnoxious schoolboys on his tail.


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Rumham wrote:
How about Munster, who are favourites this year?

I had a gander over on PP and there are no odds. Is this to do with any policy implemented to stop gambling on underage schools sports?


Nobody gives a fudge about Munster.

But yes they won’t give prices anymore.


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Blackrock Bullet wrote:
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Who would win in a scrap between Flaky and BB?


Listen he’s very very lucky I’m far too old for Wesley now, he’d have a gang of obnoxious schoolboys on his tail.


He better not be in school after my recent offering. Zappa looks disapprovingly at that sort of thing


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Don't agree Flaky.

That's how he got me and the next thing you know your taking a picture of your own Willie.


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Don't agree Flaky.

That's how he got me and the next thing you know your taking a picture of your own Willie.


And did I share it? Only that two times which is pretty good if you ask me


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Fishy the draw was always random.

Drawing between rounds is literally the only change, which makes no difference.

You could theoretically draw Belvedere in the first round, Clongowrs next et cetera. It was simply determined at the start.

I’m getting angry now reading your posts so wise up and do some research.


Ok moving forward then I think seeding ensures the better teams stay in it longer.

This is the case in many sports and many competitions at the very highest level of all global sports.

There are also many things we can learn from a more developed professional sport than rugby - the NFL for example.

Their competition takes many measures to ensure a level playing field.

Obviously your beloved school Rock has developed a monopoly in the tournament.

We could learn a lot from them in enabling a better competition and one of the ways to do this would be to seed teams based on pre season results. IMHO.

This would enable better teams going further in the tournament on a more regular basis and prevent one off results knocking out better teams earlier.

You might argue that it is completely random and going out in the first round is the exact same as going out in the semi but I would argue on the contrary.

I don't want to start a one on one argument with you Rock I want to open this up to other opinions and views so don't "get angry" with me and reply with more disdain.


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Blackrock Bullet wrote:
he’d have a gang of obnoxious schoolboys on his tail.


I thought that was more a Club Annabel thing


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He's like the Leinster version of Sparky.

You guys have finally made it.


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Blackrock Bullet wrote:
ZappaMan wrote:
Who would win in a scrap between Flaky and BB?


Listen he’s very very lucky I’m far too old for Wesley now, he’d have a gang of obnoxious schoolboys on his tail.


Remind me again, you never laced them up in school for the big one?


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Sparky is more Craic.


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