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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:40 am 
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Om by Grey Kollege rugby te speel sit nie in enige skool laaitie se broek nie. Ek het daar al gesien hoe Herschell Jantjies op al daai Grey boere supporters se tiet spiere werk en vandag sien ons waar het hy gevorder. Daar word die laaities van die manne geskei en vandag is dit eintlik die Craven Week finaal. Dis WP vs Vrystaat.

Day 3 – Wednesday, 3 July 2019

A Field
11.00: Pumas vs Leopards
12.30: Boland vs Valke
14.00: South Western Districts Eagles vs Sharks
15.30: Free State Cheetahs vs Western Province

My voorspelling is LuiPerde, Boland, SWD en WP.

Gaan kak Ou Man! Die VRYSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT sal wen!

Yep 70% Grey College.


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SWD 39-31 Sharks
Pumas 54-19 LuiPerde
Boland 36-31 Valke.

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Game het skaars begin, nou wil die Grey laaities baklei.


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Game het skaars begin, nou wil die Grey laaities baklei.

Rooi kaart vir die voorry.


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HT WP 20-0 Vrystaat


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Let Boland be Boland

Schoolboys from Paul Roos, Paarl Boys’ High and Paarl Gim should represent Boland at the annual SA Rugby Youth Weeks, writes DYLAN JACK.

Western Province XV’s victory over the Golden Lions on day two of the U18 Craven Week seems to have brought up a touchy subject in more ways than one.

While I wrote in the match report that the result was a bit of a surprise, given it was a B team beating an A team, the Western Province XV are a B side in name only.

Players such as flyhalf Kian Meadon, who scored 13 points in the match, fullback Tiaan Swanepoel, centre Stephan du Toit and wing Javier Farmer, to name but a few, could all be selected for the other Craven Week squads, bar perhaps the Bulls and Free State.

The fact that all of the above players come from Boland-based schools, and would represent the region in other sports, has again brought up the talking point: Should players from the ‘big three’ of Boland be selected for Western Province in rugby?

It is something that has been debated for a while. Experienced school sports scribe Theo Garrun has written extensively on the subject.

The arguments for seem to suggest that it frees up space in the Boland squad for players from some of the smaller schools in the region, such as HTS Drostdy and Hermanus High.

Unfortunately that doesn’t really hold up when one considers that if the same argument is applied to the Lions, their B squad could be calling up players that would either be on the bench for the Blue Bulls A side, or be starting for the Valke. The Golden Lions XV would no doubt be boosted by the presence of a Franco Enslin or Jeandre Liebenberg, both of whom have shone for the Valke this year.

It should also be considered that with WP selecting players from the Boland three, it effectively limits opportunities for players from the schools located in the Southern Suburbs and surrounds.

The peculiarity of the situation was further highlighted in Western Province’s opening match of the Craven Week against Boland, which WP went on to win 50-24.

Unfortunately, the reality is that WP call players up from the Boland three for competitive purposes. What it ultimately does is make victories like the one seen on Tuesday seem very hollow.

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/let-boland-boland/


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Let Boland be Boland

Schoolboys from Paul Roos, Paarl Boys’ High and Paarl Gim should represent Boland at the annual SA Rugby Youth Weeks, writes DYLAN JACK.

Western Province XV’s victory over the Golden Lions on day two of the U18 Craven Week seems to have brought up a touchy subject in more ways than one.

While I wrote in the match report that the result was a bit of a surprise, given it was a B team beating an A team, the Western Province XV are a B side in name only.

Players such as flyhalf Kian Meadon, who scored 13 points in the match, fullback Tiaan Swanepoel, centre Stephan du Toit and wing Javier Farmer, to name but a few, could all be selected for the other Craven Week squads, bar perhaps the Bulls and Free State.

The fact that all of the above players come from Boland-based schools, and would represent the region in other sports, has again brought up the talking point: Should players from the ‘big three’ of Boland be selected for Western Province in rugby?

It is something that has been debated for a while. Experienced school sports scribe Theo Garrun has written extensively on the subject.

The arguments for seem to suggest that it frees up space in the Boland squad for players from some of the smaller schools in the region, such as HTS Drostdy and Hermanus High.

Unfortunately that doesn’t really hold up when one considers that if the same argument is applied to the Lions, their B squad could be calling up players that would either be on the bench for the Blue Bulls A side, or be starting for the Valke. The Golden Lions XV would no doubt be boosted by the presence of a Franco Enslin or Jeandre Liebenberg, both of whom have shone for the Valke this year.

It should also be considered that with WP selecting players from the Boland three, it effectively limits opportunities for players from the schools located in the Southern Suburbs and surrounds.

The peculiarity of the situation was further highlighted in Western Province’s opening match of the Craven Week against Boland, which WP went on to win 50-24.

Unfortunately, the reality is that WP call players up from the Boland three for competitive purposes. What it ultimately does is make victories like the one seen on Tuesday seem very hollow.

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/let-boland-boland/

This has been coming for some time and tried also. If they play in Boland, then Boland who already is competitive will moan about their players not playing Craven Week.

The solution is to go as a Winelands team. They will dominate Craven Week.

To be honest the qouta system screwed up this even more. Rugby is the national sport around these valleys in all areas. Its the same with the IPT in hockey. WP dominate and have their PoCs on merit. Boland u18 boys won bronze. Beating KZN Coastals.


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Look like we'll have WP A vs WP B in the finals.


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Connor Evans from Bishops look like a very good talent.


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Another red card. :lol:


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WP 51-14 Cheetahs

Two reds made it a no contest.


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CRAVEN WEEK REPORT: What a disgrace! This “match” between Free State and Western Province on 3 July 2019 must be far and away the worst match ever played in Craven Week. Go back to 1964 and you will not find anything like it.

If this is a showpiece of rugby in South African schools, all concerned should hang their heads in shame and those responsible should be found and sanctioned. Not just the players but all of those responsible.

It seems that the innocence of schoolboy rugby, the best of the game which is historically a school game, has been drowned.


It has been coming this week with its many penalties, yellow cards and TMO interventions that have no place in a game for schoolboys.

There was great expectations. This was going to be, possibly, the best match of the 2019 Craven Week. Regardless of we hat happens after this, it will stay the worst – the worst ever.

Look at some of the happenings and wonder – the mob squabble early in the game, two red cards, late tackles, throwing the ball in an opponent’s face – not the stuff of a school rugby match between respectful opponents, but a battle between enemies. Oh, and there was a yellow card for a deliberate knock-down, which, in the context of the game was pitiable.

And were Jan-Hendrik Wessels and Ricardo Fourie applauded by their team-mates and others when they were sent off? It seemed so.

For what it is worth, the score was 51-14 to Western Province who led 20-0 at half-time.

How Doc Craven would have hated this! He wanted the week to be a joyful festival of rugby.

We give match details – scorers and teams.

Scorers:

For Western Province:
Tries: Bobby Alexander 2, Pierich Siebert, Rhynhardt Rijnsburger, Gideon van Wyk, Romauld Ntumba, Dylan De Leeuw
Cons: Kade Wolhuter 4, Jacques Rousseau
Pens: Kade Wolhuter 2

For Free State:
Tries: Katleho Chabanyane, Sisonke Vumazonke
Cons: Juan-Dee Olivier 2

Teams

Western Province: 15 Tharquin Manuel, 14 Curwin Gertse, 13 Quan Horn, 12 Tyler Bocks, 11 Angelo Osch, 10 Kade Wolhuter, 9 Bobby Alexander (captain), 8 Gideon van Wyk, 7 Pierich Siebert, 6 Romauld Ntumba, 5 Dylan De Leeuw, 4 Connor Evans, 3 Brian le Roux, 2 Allister Williams, 1 Rhynhardt Rijnsburger
Replacements: 16 Lukhanyo Vokozela, 17 Gert Marais, 18 Jovan Bekker, 19 Marco de Witt, 20 Isaiah Wharton, 21 Liam Kloosman, 22 Sacha Mgomezulu, 23 Jacques Rousseau.

Free State: 15 Sonwabo Sokoyi, 14 Katleho Chabanyane, 13 Ian Small-Smith, 12 Lesley Botha, 11 Paschal Ekeji, 10 FC du Plessis, 9 Juan-Dee Olivier, 8 Tiaan Jonker, 7 Nhlanhla Senoamadi, 6 Ricardo Fourie, 5 Jan-Hendrik Wessels, 4 Sisonke Vumazonke, 3 Mamelo Letsoalo, 2 André-Hugo Venter, 1 Tielman Nieuwoudt
Replacements: 16 Deon le Roux, 17 Mamello Mochaliba, 18 Boela Manyala, 19 Monwabisi Khani, 20 Kian Fransman, 21 Elmar Lintnaar, 22 Revaldo Maurice, 23 George Cronjé

Referee: Christopher Allison
Assistant referees: Aaron Parry (Wales), Rauiridh Campbell (Scotland)
TMO: Lourens van der Merwe


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Fixtures

Day 4 – Wednesday, 4 July 2019

A Field
09.30: Limpopo vs Golden Lions XV
11.00: EP Elephants vs Griquas
12.30: Griffons vs Blue Bulls XV
14.00: Golden Lions vs Border
15.30: Blue Bulls vs Western Province XV

Gaan interresant wees as WP se B span vandag die Bulle klop.

Sal die organiseerders WP A teen B speel in die final?


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 Post subject: Re: SA Schoolboy Rugby
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Akademie Week:

Academy Week

Results

Day 3 – Wednesday, 3 July 2019

Blue Bulls vs Leopards, 19-15
Eastern Province vs Zimbabwe, 43-19
Free State Cheetahs vs Boland, 45-26
Limpopo vs Western Province XV, 50-33
Pumas Country Districts vs Eastern Province Country Districts, 41-21
Sharks Country Districts vs Border Country Districts, 30-5
Western Province vs Sharks, 41-19

Day 1 – 1 July 2019

Boland vs Zimbabwe, 45-29
Leopards vs Sharks Country Districts, 27-24
Limpopo vs Eastern Province Elephants, 47-24
Pumas Country Districts vs Border Country Districts, 20-17
Sharks vs Free State, 41-38
Western Province vs Blue Bulls, 73-10
Western Province XV vs Eastern Province Elephants Country Districts, 41-17

Day 2 – 2 July 2019

Blue Bulls XV vs Griffons Country Districts, 26-24
Border vs South Western Districts Eagles26-8
Golden Lions Academy XV vs Namibia, 22-19
Griffons vs Griquas, 64-5
Griquas Country Districts vs SA LSEN XV, 45-33
Pumas vs SA LSEN, 52-15
Valke vs Golden Lions Academy, 36-31


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Great comeback win for the Bulls today and look like the favourates to win the final on saturday. They have a good pack of forwards and some great finishers in the back.

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Bulls 36-34 WP B
Lions 36-39 Border
Griffons 50-22 Bulls B
EP 43-12 Griquas
Limpopo 46-24 Lions B


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HT WP 20-0 Vrystaat

Ja, well done with this result Oom. :blush: :blush: :blush:


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Final days fixtures
Sharks vs Griff ons (need to play the dou off the field)
Vrystaat vs Lions
Border vs Boland
WP B vs SWD
WP A vs Bulls


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Final days fixtures
Sharks vs Griff ons (need to play the dou off the field)
Vrystaat vs Lions
Border vs Boland
WP B vs SWD
WP A vs Bulls

Daar is fokol dou op n Bloemfontein veld in Julie nie


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Final days fixtures
Sharks vs Griff ons (need to play the dou off the field)
Vrystaat vs Lions
Border vs Boland
WP B vs SWD
WP A vs Bulls

Daar is fokol dou op n Bloemfontein veld in Julie nie

Ek meen ryp. Vrystaat gaan sukkel in die ryp. Die Grey laaities is gewoond om 4 uur in die middag te speel.


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WeePee to good in the final. Evans again was brilliant.


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Craven Week Day 5 results:

Sharks 53-13 Griffons
Griquas 31-38 Golden Lions XV
Golden Lions 49-26 Free State Cheetahs
Leopards 43-15 Limpopo Blue Bulls
Border 43-26 Boland
Falcons 26-63 Blue Bulls XV
EP Elephants 38-28 Pumas
SWD Eagles 30-45 Western Province XV
Western Province 56-31 Blue Bulls


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According to Rapport WPRU had announced new Craven Week qoutas from next year. 20-25% PoC players have to come from non X Model C schools.

Currently the qouta rule at Craven Week is that 12 players have to be PoC of which 8 have to be on the field of play at any given time.


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According to Rapport WPRU had announced new Craven Week qoutas from next year. 20-25% PoC players have to come from non X Model C schools.

Currently the qouta rule at Craven Week is that 12 players have to be PoC of which 8 have to be on the field of play at any given time.

Oom I know this has been debated on the Schoolboy rugby blog. Personally I am against this. The schools have been making great strides developing talent in underprivileged areas by offering bursaries and a few even run programs in the townships (Bishops/UCT do as an example). Now those underprivileged players will lose out to other underprivileged players at non model C schools. It is madness. Development is the unions responsibility and the schools have been doing their work for them and now they get a slap down :frown: This will just weaken the WP team and the competition and cause a lot of agro.


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According to Rapport WPRU had announced new Craven Week qoutas from next year. 20-25% PoC players have to come from non X Model C schools.

Currently the qouta rule at Craven Week is that 12 players have to be PoC of which 8 have to be on the field of play at any given time.

Oom I know this has been debated on the Schoolboy rugby blog. Personally I am against this. The schools have been making great strides developing talent in underprivileged areas by offering bursaries and a few even run programs in the townships (Bishops/UCT do as an example). Now those underprivileged players will lose out to other underprivileged players at non model C schools. It is madness. Development is the unions responsibility and the schools have been doing their work for them and now they get a slap down :frown: This will just weaken the WP team and the competition and cause a lot of agro.

Even Paarl Gym (afrikaans school)do their part of developing rugby talent. WP capt (Bobby Alexander) is from Paarl Gym.

I try to figure out why WPRI want to do this? It can only be the new direction what politicians want to go regarding qoutas.


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Schools Results – 13 July 2019

Eastern Cape

Andrew Rabie vs Newton Tech, 22-13
Burgersdorp vs Middelburg, 66-3
Despatch vs Die Brandwag, 22-19
Grey High vs Framesby, 22-17
Kingswood vs Woodridge, 69-14
Otto du Plessis vs DF Malherbe, 20-8
Queen’s vs Grens, 25-10
St Andrew’s College vs Marlow, 41-26

Free State/Griqualand West

AHS Kroonstad (Rooiskool) vs Jacobsdal, 29-28
Bethlehem Voortrekker vs Sentraal, 27-23
Diamantveld vs Fichardtpark, 55-24
Grey College vs Waterkloof, 63-27
Hoopstad vs Bultfontein, 7-3
Jim Fouché vs Witteberg, 32-21
Ligbron vs Bethlehem Voortrekker, 38-34
Noord-Kaap vs Witteberg, 33-31
Riebeeckstad vs HTS Welkom, 29-7
St Andrew’s School vs Zastron, 31-21
Upington vs Vredendal, 31-24
Welkom Gimnasium vs Goudstad, 43-16

KwaZulu-Natal

Affies vs Maritzburg College, 78-16
Glenwood vs HTS Middelburg, 28-22
Parktown vs DHS, 41-32

Northvaal

Affies vs Maritzburg College, 78-16
Akasia vs Gerrit Maritz, 29-24
Die Anker vs Dr Malan, 38-26
Garsfontein vs Dr EG Jansen, 80-38
Glenwood vs HTS Middelburg, 28-22
Grey College vs Waterkloof, 63-27
Kempton Park vs Montana, 34-29
KES vs Pretoria Boys High, 36-19
Krugersdorp vs Wesvalia, 55-22
Leeuwenhof vs Fochville, 46-12
Ligbron vs Bethlehem Voortrekker, 38-34
Menlopark vs Transvalia, 69-12
Monument vs Helpmekaar, 41-31
Oos-Moot vs Zwartkop, 52-5
Parktown vs DHS, 41-32
St Benedict’s vs St Alban’s, 33-10
St John’s College St Stithians, 52-33
Wilgers vs Hendrik Verwoerd, 33-15

Western Cape

Bellville vs Schoonspruit, 31-24
Boland Landbou vs SACS, 20-17
Bredasdorp vs Langenhoven Gim, 11-7
Bridgton vs Punt, 31-19
Cederberg Academy vs Bella Vista, 19-17
DF Malan vs Hottentots Holland, 25-20
Dirkie Uys vs Porterville, 25-3
Durbanville vs Bellville, 42-5
Groenberg vs Hermanus, 16-14
Hermanus vs Brackenfell, 17-14
Hopefield vs Labori, 19-13
Hugenote vs Charlie Hofmeyr, 19-11
Klein Nederburg vs Groendal, 22-10
Kylemore vs Paulus Joubert, 12-8
Langenhoven vs Albertinia, 37-15
Lutzville vs Nuwerus, 20-6
Malibu vs Bergvliet, 10-8
Montagu vs Overberg, 35-7
Outeniqua vs Drostdy, 38-22
PW Botha vs Knysna, 28-8
Paarl Boys’ High vs Oakdale, 42-0
Paarl Gym vs Rondebosch, 47-26
Paul Roos vs Wynberg, 31-17
Piketberg vs Augsburg, 53-8
Robertson vs Stellenbosch, 34-22
Schoonspruit vs Vredenburg, 50-6
Stellenberg vs Bishops, 27-25
Strand vs Swartland, 30-22
Tygerberg vs Parel Vallei, 29-27
Vredendal vs Upington, 31-24


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SA Schools teams will be announce today.

SARU has put in some new rulings to try and stop young players chicken running to other countries.

To qualify for SA Schools teams players have to commit to SA u20 squad for the next two years, meaning they will have to be in SA from Feb to June.


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Craven Week gone
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OomPB wrote:
According to Rapport WPRU had announced new Craven Week qoutas from next year. 20-25% PoC players have to come from non X Model C schools.

Currently the qouta rule at Craven Week is that 12 players have to be PoC of which 8 have to be on the field of play at any given time.

Oom I know this has been debated on the Schoolboy rugby blog. Personally I am against this. The schools have been making great strides developing talent in underprivileged areas by offering bursaries and a few even run programs in the townships (Bishops/UCT do as an example). Now those underprivileged players will lose out to other underprivileged players at non model C schools. It is madness. Development is the unions responsibility and the schools have been doing their work for them and now they get a slap down :frown: This will just weaken the WP team and the competition and cause a lot of agro.


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Cape Town - A group of former rugby players want the Craven Week's name to be changed.

Afrikaans newspaper Rapport said on Sunday that former SARU players have written to SA Rugby asking for the name change.

SARU was a non-racial governing body for South African rugby during apartheid.

The Craven Week is named after Danie Craven, a former Springbok and president of the South African Rugby Board which was the governing body of South African rugby before unification.

The report added that more than 20 former SARU players say the name of the under-13 and under-18 provincial festivals brings back painful memories of the past when players of colour were not allowed to participate.

"Craven Week is one of the last bastions of the apartheid era that still goes on and everyone overlooks it," former SARU loose forward Tauriq Britton said.

"But that name still holds so many angry feelings and resentment. The Craven name must go. It causes too much pain for us former national players, including those whose children now play under that Craven name."

Britton said the name should be changed to the National Schools Week.


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SA Schools team and International series dates and venues

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SARU has announced the names of two squads of players chosen after the Craven Week in Bloemfontein earlier this month.

This year South Africa will have two Under-18 schools teams involved in international competition with Argentina, England, France and Wales. The second South African team, the SA Schools A team, enables three matches to be played on each of the three playing days in August. Each team will play three matches.

There are four players who played in the SA Schools team of 2018 – hooker Jacques Goosen, scrumhalf Jurich Claasens and flanks Jarrod Taylor and Keketso Morabe.


Kade Wolhuter and Robbie Rodgers, both of Paul Roos, also played for SA Schools last year but have signed contracts to play for the French club Montpellier next year and were clearly not considered. (Kean Meadon, who has been chosen at flyhalf for the SA Schools side, was the flyhalf for the Western Province second team at the Craven Week, while Wolhuter played in the first team.)

Jurie Roux, SARU’s CEO, said: “The selection of these squads is in line with our elite player development pathway of which the SA Schools teams form an important part.

We invest time, money and resources into their matches with a view to them graduating through the age group levels to the very top of the game.”

Roux also wished the new coaches well.

Management Teams

SA Schools
Coaches: Mzwakhe Nkosi (KES), Cobus van Wyk (Waterkloof)
Manager: Dean Moodley

SA Schools A
Coaches: Phiwe Nomlomo (Selborne), Wessel du Plessis (Grey)
Manager: Ofentse Moeng

The squads (with schools and provinces) are:

SA Schools

Outside backs: Geraldo Flusk (Garsfontein & Blue Bulls), Keane Galant (Drostdy & Boland), Zeilinga Strydom (Garsfontein & Blue Bulls), Tarquin Manuel (Stellenberg & Western Province).

Centres: Tyler Bocks (Paarl Boys High & Western Province), Henco van Wyk (Golden Lions & Monument), Mntungwa Mapantsela (Selborne & Border).

Flyhalves: Kean Meadon (Paarl Boys High & Western Province), Boldwin Hansen (Hermanus & Boland).

Scrumhalves: Jurich Claasens (Garsfontein & Blue Bulls), Dylan Alexander (Paarl Gimnasium & Western Province).

Loose forwards: George Cronje (Grey College & Free State), Gideon van Wyk (Paarl Boys High & Western Province), Jarrod Taylor (Selborne & Border), Siyemukela Ndlovu (Northwood & Sharks), Keketso Morabe (Welkom Gymnasium & Griffons).

Locks: Simon Miller (St Alban’s & Blue Bulls), Dylan de Leeuw (Paul Roos & Western Province), Connor Evans (Bishops & Western Province), Wandile Hlope (Maritzburg College & Sharks).

Props: Blaine Golden (Glenwood & Sharks), Bryan le Roux (Rondebosch & Western Province), Jan-Hendrik Wessels (Grey College & Free State), Okuhle Siyeni (Westville & Sharks).

Hookers: Jacques Goosen (Selborne Border), Andre Venter (Grey College & Free State).

Schools Represented

3 Garsfontein, Grey College, Paarl Boys’ High
2 Selborne
1 Bishops, Drostdy, Glenwood, Hermanus, Maritzburg College, Monument, Northwood, Paarl Gim, Paul Roos, Rondebosch, St Alban’s, Stellenberg, Welkom Gymnasium, Westville

SA Schools A

Outside backs: Sibusiso Javu (Selborne & Border), Sonwabo Sokoyi (Grey College & Free State), Nsuku Baloyi (Menlopark & Blue Bulls), Indiphile Tyeda (Dale & Border).

Centres: Jacques Rossouw (Paarl Boys High & Western Province), Joseph Iye (KES & Golden Lions), Quan Horn (Paarl Boys High & Western Province).

Flyhalves: Sihlalo Benge (Queen’s & Border), Jordan Hendrikse (Glenwood & Sharks).

Scrumhalves: Daimon O’Connell (Selborne & Border), Kabelo Mokheti (Jeppe & Golden Lions).

Loose forwards: Izan Esterhuizen (Monument & Golden Lions), Jarod Cairns (Paul Roos & Western Province), Renzo du Plessis (Ben Vorster & Limpopo), Pierich Siebert (Paarl Gimnasium & Western Province), Josh van Vreden (Selborne & Border).

Locks: Marco van Rhyn (Paarl Gimnasium & Western Province), Sisonke Vumazonke (Grey College & Free State), Cornelus Rahl (Oakdale & South Western Districts), Raynard Roets (Garsfontein & Blue Bulls).

Props: Sibusiso Shongwe (Jeppe & Golden Lions), Philip Masango (Wynberg & Western Province), Rynhardt Rijnsburger (Paarl Boys High & Western Province), Dimakatso Lebelo (Waterkloof & Blue Bulls).

Hookers: Jacques-Lois du Toit (Affies & Blue Bulls), Teague Loelly (Westville & Sharks)

Hookers: Jacques-Lois du Toit (Affies & Blue Bulls), Teague Loelly (Westville & Sharks)

Schools Represented

3 Paarl Boys’ High, Selborne
2 Grey College, Jeppe, Paarl Gim
1 Affies, Dale, Garsfontein, Glenwood, KES, Menlopark, Monument, Oakdale, Paul Roos, Queen’s College, Waterkloof, Westville, Wynberg

Under-18 International Series Fixtures

Friday, 9 August 2019 at Paul Roos Gymnasium, Stellenbosch
13.00: SA Schools A vs France Under-18
14.30: England Under-18 vs Argentina Under-18
16.00: SA Schools vs Wales Under-18

Tuesday, 13 August 2019 at Paarl Gimnasium
13.00: SA Schools A vs Wales Under-18
14.30: SA Schools vs Argentina Under-18
16.00: England Under-18 vs France Under-18

Saturday, 17 August 2019 at Hugenote High School, Wellington
12.00: SA Schools A vs Argentina Under-18
13.30: France Under-18 vs Wales Under-18
15.00: SA Schools vs England Under-18


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Schools Results – 21 July 2019

Eastern Cape

Andrew Rabie vs Otto Du Plessis, 24-8
Die Brandwag vs Point, 80-0
Grey College vs Grey High School, 58-0
Hudson Park vs Stirling, 14-10
Oakdale vs Marlow, 18-7
Pearson vs Union High, 53-5
Selborne vs Queen’s, 33-0
St Andrew’s College vs Dale, 45-0

Free State/Griqualand West

Bethlehem Voortrekker vs Noord-Kaap, 40-29
Drostdy vs Duineveld, 23-17
Fichardtpark vs Witteberg, 49-15
Grey College vs Grey High School, 58-0
Jim Fouché vs Diamantveld
Jim Fouché vs Diamantveld, 24-19
Louis Botha vs Landboudal, 31-22
Sentraal vs Goudveld, 34-24

KwaZulu-Natal

Glenwood vs DHS, 24-12
Maritzburg College vs Pretoria Boys High, 26-25

Northvaal

Affies vs Waterkloof, 45-27
Ben Vorster vs Nelspruit, 35-33
Garsfontein vs Helpmekaar, 50-22
Heidelberg Volkies vs Hoërskool Middelburg, 44-12
Jeppe vs KES, 25-7
Jeugland vs Oos-Moot, 30-27
Kempton Park vs Marais Viljoen, 30-22
Leeuwenhof vs Oosterland, 12-5
Lichtenburg vs Centurion, 40-21
Ligbron vs Secunda, 17-15
Maritzburg College vs Pretoria Boys High, 26-25
Menlopark vs HTS Middelburg, 64-47
Midstream College vs Overkruin, 28-26
Montana vs Zwartkop, 58-18
Monument vs Dr EG Jansen, 50-20
Noordheuwel vs Transvalia, 25-20
Pietersburg vs Frikkie Meyer, 34-25
Potch Volkies vs Klerksdorp, 63-7
Rustenburg vs Eldoraigne, 31-19

Western Cape

Ashton Secondary vs Jakes Gerwel THS, 38-12
Augsburg Gym vs Vredendal Sec, 8-7
Bellville High vs New Orleans, 44-24
Bishops vs Parel Vallei, 51-14
Bonnievale vs De Villiers Graaff, 14-5
Bredasdorp vs Langenhoven High, 23-15
Camps Bay vs Leadership College, 8-5
Cederberg Academy vs Graafwater, 24-3
Ceres Secondary vs Porterville, 36-17
Charlie Hofmeyr vs Hermanus, 22-17
DF Malan vs Brackenfell, 15-13
Die Brandwag vs Point, 80-0
Drostdy vs Duineveld, 23-17
Edgemead vs Table View, 18-7
Fairmont vs Collegians RFC, 37-10
HTS Bellville vs Labori, 12-3
Hopefield vs Vredendal, 21-15
Hugenote vs Strand, 27-7
Langenhoven Gym vs Montagu, 28-20
Leeuwenhof vs Oosterland, 12-5
Milnerton vs Melkbosstrand, 36-24
Monumentpark vs Tygerberg RFC, 24-24
New Orleans vs Swartland, 37-10
Oakdale vs Marlow, 18-7
Oudtshoorn vs Birkenhead (England), 55-10
Paarl Boys High vs Boland Landbou, 60-14
Paarl Gim vs Outeniqua, 11-8
Parow vs Bosmansdam, 37-11
Paul Roos vs SACS, 42-14
Piketberg vs Dirkie Uys, 27-3
Robertson vs Overberg, 28-22
Schoonspruit vs Klein Nederburg, 33-7
Scottsdene vs Excelsior, 38-17
Sherborne (England) vs New Orleans, 31-9
Stellenberg vs Tygerberg, 72-0
Swartland vs Stellenbosch, 38-14
Swellendam vs Montana, 41-7
The Settlers vs Jan van Riebeeck, 12-5
Westerford vs Manenberg, 39-19
Worcester Gym vs Vredenburg, 34-14
Wynberg vs Rondebosch, 27-17


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Herschel Jantjies in his Paul Roos playing days

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Venues until 2022

2020 SA Rugby Youth Weeks venues:

U18 SA Rugby Craven & Academy Weeks – Eastern Province (Nelson Mandela University, Port Elizabeth)
U13 SA Rugby Craven Week & U16 SA Rugby Grant Khomo Week – Golden Lions (Jeppe High School, Johannesburg)
U16 and U18 SA Rugby Girls Weeks – Golden Lions (Jeppe High School, Johannesburg)
U17 Sevens – SWD (venue TBC)
Iqhawe Week – Golden Lions (venue TBC)
LSEN Week – Western Province (venue TBC)

2021 SA Rugby Youth Weeks venues:

U18 SA Rugby Craven & Academy Weeks – Golden Lions (Monument High School, Johannesburg)
U13 SA Rugby Craven Week & U16 SA Rugby Grant Khomo Week – KwaZulu-Natal (Durban High School, Durban)
U16 and U18 SA Rugby Girls Weeks – Golden Lions (Jeppe High School, Johannesburg)
U17 Sevens – Western Province (venue TBC)
Iqhawe Week – Golden Lions (venue TBC)
LSEN Week – Golden Lions (venue TBC)

2022 SA Rugby Youth Weeks venues:

U18 SA Rugby Craven & Academy Weeks – Western Province (Rondebosch Boys’ High School, Cape Town)
U16 and U18 SA Rugby Girls Weeks – Griffons (HT Pelatona Projects Stadium, Welkom)
U13 SA Rugby Craven Week & U16 SA Rugby Grant Khomo Week – Griquas (Diamantveld High School, Kimberley)
U17 Sevens – Griquas (venue TBC)
Iqhawe Week – Golden Lions (venue TBC)
LSEN Week – SWD (venue TBC)


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It was interesting to see he was originally accepted to Paarl Gym, but it was too far from where he lived so he went to a school close to home ( somewhere in helderberg I think) and when in grade 8 his primary school teacher took him to Paul Roos to say he had a gem for them and the principal of Paul Roos accepted him. He started in the under 14 d and not at scrumhalf but eventually played scrumhalf and moved up to the A team.Apparently he was a talented cricket player as well.


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It was interesting to see he was originally accepted to Paarl Gym, but it was too far from where he lived so he went to a school close to home ( somewhere in helderberg I think) and when in grade 8 his primary school teacher took him to Paul Roos to say he had a gem for them and the principal of Paul Roos accepted him. He started in the under 14 d and not at scrumhalf but eventually played scrumhalf and moved up to the A team.Apparently he was a talented cricket player as well.

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Meet the man who uncovered 'piece of gold' Herschel Jantjies

Cape Town - "Sir, now I am bringing you a piece of gold!"

Those words may well have made all the difference in the career and life of new Springbok sensation Herschel Jantjies.

They were uttered by 64-year-old Christo Jephtas, who was Jantjies' primary school coach and teacher at P.C. Petersen in the modest community of Kylemore outside Stellenbosch, in 2010.

The 13-year-old, rugby-mad Jantjies had just started at Kylemore High School and had already smashed a 50 for the U-14 A team on the cricket field.

Jephtas, though, understood that if the youngster he had believed in since the first time he saw him at the age of 9 was going to make it in rugby, he needed a change.

While Jantjies had been accepted to Paarl Gimnasium, sending him there was not an option for his parents Sammy and Adeline.

The Jantjies' have lived in their Kylemore home "forever". It is where Herschel grew up, and where he still lives today.

The family got by just fine, but private school money is a different level of financial demand. Most parents would agree.

So, after consulting with Sammy and Adeline, Christopher Jephtas set about knocking the door down to get young Herschel Jantjies into a school that could accommodate and develop his rugby potential.

Jephtas is still rather vague on exactly how he managed to get the job done, but one chat with then-headmaster Jannie van der Westhuizen was it all took and Jantjies was enrolled into Paul Roos that week.

"I asked the secretary to phone the principal and I saw him at 15:00 that same day," Jephtas recalls.

When he arrived at the school, all Jephtas was armed with was a team photograph of the Boland U-13 Craven Week that included Jantjies.

Jephtas recalls fondly how the young Jantjies was worried that they had arrived underprepared. One team photo, Jantjies was concerned, was not enough evidence of his ability.

"Sir, now I am bringing you a piece of gold!"

Christopher Japhtas (Lloyd Burnard)

Christopher Jephtas was hugely responsible for the development of Springbok Herschel Jantjies (Photo: Lloyd Burnard)

Jephtas reckons he didn't have to say much more than that. The school was on board with giving Jantjies a crack.

It is a decision they will be thankful for today, with Jantjies becoming Paul Roos' 54th Springbok against the Wallabies at Ellis Park earlier this month.

Jephtas remembers Jantjies being chosen for the U-14 D team, and when he went to watch him play a game he was horrified.

"He didn't play in his position," Jephtas recalls.

"I was furious and I just shouted on the side of the field: 'Who is the coach? He is a scrumhalf!'"

Jantjies was just nine-years-old when Jephtas, who taught at P.C. Petersen for 21 years, first realised he had a rare talent on his doorstep.

"The first time I saw him he had a rugby ball in his hands while we practicing for athletics. He was passing the ball and kicking the ball," he remembers with a contagious smile.

"He was stronger and quicker than the other kids in his group.

"He was very disciplined. At age 10 he was like somebody who had the world's experience. He knew what he wanted from life.

"The pupils liked him. They wanted him to play in their team."

Despite Jantjies being small in size throughout his school career, Jephtas always believed that he had the ingredients to make it to the top.

In fact, a few weeks before Jantjies was handed a Bok debut against the Wallabies at Ellis Park, Jephtas messaged him with a hunch that he would be selected.

"I hope so, Meneer," was Jantjies' response.

What has unfolded since is something that not even Jephtas could have anticipated.

He watched both the Australia and All Black matches from his home, and he acknowledges it was difficult to contain himself.

"It was an emotional experience. It doesn't happen to everybody," he says.

"There were many other players that I coached, but they didn't believe in themselves and then many times the parents didn't support them. That is very important."

Jantjies is sitting on top of the world; a world that is about to change in a big way.

There were many South African rugby lovers who had never heard of him a year ago, but today it is impossible to have evaded the hype.

Jantjies has exploded onto the international stage with three tries in two games, and he is now almost a shoo-in for the 2019 World Cup squad.

This much attention is a lot to be thrust onto a youngster this quickly, and Jephtas is mindful of that.

"I know that in his mind there is something cooking because it's a great feeling to be chosen as a Springbok and I know he wants to go to the World Cup, but he must just stay cool and calm and collected," he says.

"He's such a wonderful person and everybody likes him ... he just needs to keep doing what he's doing."


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Interschools fewer is running high in Paarl. Boishaai old boys won last night both matches. Today is the u13s. I'd be surprise if Boishaai dont make it 5 in a row. They improved nicely since the start of the year. PRG & Grey College interschools also shape up playing against the Boere, PRG vs Landbou, Grey vs Oakdale this weekend.


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Schools Results – 3 August 2019


Eastern Cape

Aliwal-Noord vs Burgersdorp, 18-17
Andrew Rabie vs Victoria Park, 42-6
Dale vs Hudson Park, 36-17
Despatch vs DF Malherbe, 73-3
Framesby vs Outeniqua, 22-14
Grey High vs Selborne, 23-17
Itembelihle vs John Walton, 76-12
Otto du Plessis vs Newton Tech, 51-0
Pearson vs Nico Malan, 23-15
Queen’s vs Cambridge, 67-14
St Andrew’s vs Bishops, 42-22
Woodridge vs Westering, 26-24

Free State/Griqualand West

De Aar vs Kathu, 40-12
Grey College vs Oakdale, 57-26
Hartswater vs Posmasburg, 19-17
Hoopstad vs Hennenman, 22-22
Riebeeckstad vs Hoërskool Kroonstad (Blouskool), 39-18
Sentraal vs Jim Fouché, 23-20
St Andrew’s vs Zastron, 34-29
Welkom Gimnasium vs Goudveld, 22-22

KwaZulu-Natal

Glenwood vs Maritzburg College, 36-25

Northvaal

Garsfontein vs Transvalia, 73-22
Klerksdorp vs Overkruin, 52-22
Marais Viljoen vs Eldoraigne, 18-17
Waterkloof vs HTS Middelburg, 36-31
Ben Vorster vs Zwartkop, 95-24
Ligbron vs Midstream College, 48-7
Menlopark vs Monument, 22-15
Dr EG Jansen vs Noordheuwel, 61-38
Pietersburg vs Secunda, 36-21
Wesvalia vs Ligbron, 40-15
Klerksdorp vs Overkruin, 52-22
Curro Heuwelkruin vs Fochville, 32-17
Warmbad vs Akasia, 34-5
Springs vs Steelcrest, 34-27
Heilbron vs Voortrekkerhoogte, 39-17
Lyttelton Manor vs Maragon, 42-7
Standerton vs Leeuwenhof, 24-14

Western Cape

Augsburg vs Namaqualand, 22-0
Bellville vs Primrose RFC, 43-10
Bonnievale vs Jakes Gerwel THS, 20-7
Brackenfell vs Hugenote, 29-26
Bridgton vs PW Botha, 31-8
De Villiers Graaff vs Montana, 20-7
Durbanville vs Milnerton, 38-13
Framesby vs Outeniqua, 22-14
George Watson (Scotland) vs Paulus Joubert, 15-3
Glantaf (Wales) vs Paulus Joubert, 21-1
Grey College vs Oakdale, 57-26
Groenberg vs Gordon, 27-15
Groenberg vs Villiersdorp Secondary, 29-18
Labori vs Parow, 30-7
Langenhoven Gym vs Punt, 36-21
Langenhoven High vs Oudtshoorn, 36-22
Lutzville vs Dirkie Uys, 17-16
Montagu vs Charlie Hofmeyr, 13-7
Overberg vs Emil Weder, 46-0
Paarl Gym vs Paarl Boys’ High, 18-17
Pacaltsdorp vs George, 17-15
Parel Vallei vs Worcester Gym, 14-12
Paul Roos vs Boland Landbou, 28-10
Porterville vs Vredenburg, 18-10
Robertson vs Hopefield, 24-20
Rondebosch vs SACS, 24-5
Schoonspruit vs Enniskillen (Ireland), 40-38
St Andrew’s vs Bishops, 42-22
Stellenberg vs DF Malan, 80-0
Stellenbosch vs Jan van Riebeeck, 29-0
Strand vs Hermanus, 43-38
Swartland vs Tygerberg, 31-29
Swellendam vs Bredasdorp, 20-18
Vanrhynsdorp vs Vredendal Sec, 17-3
Weston vs Steynville, 29-5
Worcester Gym vs The Crypt School (England), 22-5


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Schools Results – 10 August 2019

Eastern Cape

Dale vs Queen’s, 24-14
Daniël Pienaar vs Punt, 34-12
Die Brandwag vs Pearson, 63-22
Graeme College vs Nico Malan, 47-12
Hudson Park vs Cambridge, 21-9

Free State/Griqualand West

Diamantveld vs Drostdy, 32-26
Die Brandwag vs Pearson, 63-22

KwaZulu-Natal

Northvaal

Ben Vorster vs Rustenburg, 12-8
Eldoraigne vs Montana, 29-23
Heilbron vs Lyttelton Manor, 26-22
Helpmekaar vs Monument, 27-22
Hoërskool Middelburg vs Heidelberg Volkskool, 28-17
Hugenote vs Lichtenburg, 19-17
KES vs Allen Glen, 70-0
Leeuwenhof vs Curro Heuwelkruin, 37-16
Ligbron vs Wesvalia, 65-17
Menlopark vs Garsfontein, 72-40
Springs Boys vs Warmbad, 27-22

Western Cape

Augsburg vs Clanwilliam Secondary, 35-18
Bishops vs Wynberg, 18-14
Boland Landbou vs Oakdale, 26-23
Bonnievale vs Ashton, 8-7
Bridgton vs King’s School, Canterbury (England), 50-5
De Kuilen vs Vredenburg, 8-5
Diamantveld vs Drostdy, 32-26
Dirkie Uys vs Knysna, 26-12
Fairmont vs Labori, 28-22
HTS Bellville vs Swartland, 26-20
Knysna vs Pacaltsdorp, 17-0
Langenhoven High vs Dirkie Uys, 15-6
New Orleans vs Klein Nederburg, 18-0
Overberg vs Hermanus, 27-27
Parel Vallei vs Hottentots Holland, 34-32
Paulus Joubert vs Bangor Grammar (Ireland), 7-5
Piketberg vs Kasselsvlei, 22-12
Porterville vs Montana, 10-3
Worcester Gym vs Goodwood Academy, 60-7

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Interskole sport program PRG vs Grey College:
Vrydag, 16 Augustus 2019
08:00 Gholfspelers slaan af.
08:00 Tennis (19AB) begin (PRG & Coetzenburg)
10:00 Landloop begin - PRG
11:00 Bergfietsry begin - Coetzenburg
11:00 15A- en 15B-Tennis (PRG en Coetzenburg)
12:00 Sokkerwedstryde begin - PRG
12:30 Swem begin
13:00 Hokkiewedstryde begin - Maties Astro
14:00 Muurbal - Old Mutual Stelbane
14:30 Skaak (Mediasentrum)
14:30 Tafeltennis begin - Nova Koshuis
15:00 Debat (Japie Krigesaal)
15:00 Debating (Staff Room)
15:15 Waterpolo begin (AR Rupert-Swembad)
19:15 Hokkie 19A (Maties Astro A)
Saturday, 19 August 2017
08:00 Rugby starts (Markötter & PRG Oval)
14:00 1st XV Rugby Match (Markötter)


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Interskole sport program PRG vs Grey College:
Vrydag, 16 Augustus 2019
08:00 Gholfspelers slaan af.
08:00 Tennis (19AB) begin (PRG & Coetzenburg)
10:00 Landloop begin - PRG
11:00 Bergfietsry begin - Coetzenburg
11:00 15A- en 15B-Tennis (PRG en Coetzenburg)
12:00 Sokkerwedstryde begin - PRG
12:30 Swem begin
13:00 Hokkiewedstryde begin - Maties Astro
14:00 Muurbal - Old Mutual Stelbane
14:30 Skaak (Mediasentrum)
14:30 Tafeltennis begin - Nova Koshuis
15:00 Debat (Japie Krigesaal)
15:00 Debating (Staff Room)
15:15 Waterpolo begin (AR Rupert-Swembad)
19:15 Hokkie 19A (Maties Astro A)
Saturday, 19 August 2017
08:00 Rugby starts (Markötter & PRG Oval)
14:00 1st XV Rugby Match (Markötter)


Dit gaan n ggroot een wees. :shock:


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Dit gaan n ggroot een wees. :shock:

Grey is baie goed die jaar en PRG het nog nie weer naastenby gespeel soos hulle veronderstel was met die Sannix toernooi nie.

MAAR die SA skole toernooi wat aan die gang is het n paar spelers meer van Grey as PRG.

Dan het die SA skole keurders PRG n moerse guns gedoen om nie Kade Wolhuter en Rodgers te kies nie agv hul Franse konneksie plus PRG se gereelde senterpaar wat heeljaar nog beseer was is ook weer terug.

As PRG saterdag wen gaan ek n GROOT vuur maak, verseker.


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