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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:13 pm 
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Worried about what happens if one of the back three gets injured on the weekend. We lack cover.


Tuilagi on the wing.


A position he hasn't played in years? Against the Irish in Dublin?

When he played on the wing I think he just ran over people. Not so easy in the seniors
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Guy Armitage has re-signed with London Irish for another two seasons.

http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/rugby ... ndon_irish


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Today's Ranking Update, although the 6Ns went from some of the best to some of the worst I've seen in a week. Let tomorrows game be a cracker please!

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1. New Zealand 90.08
2. South Africa 86.94
3. Australia 86.87
4. England 83.90 (+1)
5. France 83.07 (-1)
6. Ireland 81.31
7. Samoa 78.71
8. Argentina 78.71
9. Italy 78.24 (+1)
10. Wales 77.19 (-1)
11. Tonga 76.10
12. Scotland 75.83


As of Saturday:
1. New Zealand 90.08
2. South Africa 86.94
3. Australia 86.87
4. England 83.90
5. France 81.57
6. Ireland 81.31
7. Wales 79.19
8. Samoa 78.71
9. Argentina 78.71
10. Scotland 77.24
11. Italy 76.83
12. Tonga 76.10


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:27 am 
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Getting nervous about the Ireland game now. The one match every 2 years I hate, because Ireland always show up. Will need a monster effort to win tomorrow, even if we are favourites.


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Getting nervous about the Ireland game now. The one match every 2 years I hate, because Ireland always show up. Will need a monster effort to win tomorrow, even if we are favourites.



our bench is better

that is the only thing i can say with certainty


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:31 am 
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Getting nervous about the Ireland game now. The one match every 2 years I hate, because Ireland always show up. Will need a monster effort to win tomorrow, even if we are favourites.



our bench is better

that is the only thing i can say with certainty


Flood vs O'Gara.

In all seriousness I wonder which country hates their fly half the most?


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I'm pretty confident that England will turn up and play well. The trouble is I'm pretty confident Ireland will do likewise, and home advantage may prove the difference.


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Getting nervous about the Ireland game now. The one match every 2 years I hate, because Ireland always show up. Will need a monster effort to win tomorrow, even if we are favourites.



our bench is better

that is the only thing i can say with certainty


Flood vs O'Gara.

In all seriousness I wonder which country hates their fly half the most?


the only way we'd still be picking flood when he's 35 is when hell freezes over and/or cockers is made england head coach

two events which are not mutually exclusive


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Is it just me or has Mike Brown been standing right next to every single try scored since he came back into the England side?


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Is it just me or has Mike Brown been standing right next to every single try scored since he came back into the England side?


I had the same thought during the 6N coverage today! Given his try scoring record for Quins I thought he'd have bagged a few by now, but no such luck.


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Getting nervous about the Ireland game now. The one match every 2 years I hate, because Ireland always show up. Will need a monster effort to win tomorrow, even if we are favourites.


England are favourites?


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Getting nervous about the Ireland game now. The one match every 2 years I hate, because Ireland always show up. Will need a monster effort to win tomorrow, even if we are favourites.


England are favourites?


With the bookies they are very slight favourites yes.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:44 am 
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Getting nervous about the Ireland game now. The one match every 2 years I hate, because Ireland always show up. Will need a monster effort to win tomorrow, even if we are favourites.


England are favourites?


With the bookies they are very slight favourites yes.


That's interesting. Wrong, in my opinion, but interesting.


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Getting nervous about the Ireland game now. The one match every 2 years I hate, because Ireland always show up. Will need a monster effort to win tomorrow, even if we are favourites.


England are favourites?


With the bookies they are very slight favourites yes.


That's interesting. Wrong, in my opinion, but interesting.


They were not wrong. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D .

I hate playing in Ireland, so to win is fecking sensational.


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morgan in for the hask in two weeks time, otherwise same team please


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Big big win today in the context of this team and what SL is trying to achieve..very happy Englander here.


Yer Morgan in for Hask (back to Bench) otherwise keep the same team....ok maybe start Tuilagi at 13 and see what 36 can do hopefully in better conditions.


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Big big win today in the context of this team and what SL is trying to achieve..very happy Englander here.


Yer Morgan in for Hask (back to Bench) otherwise keep the same team....ok maybe start Tuilagi at 13 and see what 36 can do hopefully in better conditions.


36 and barritt once again did nothing to suggest they should be dropped, and manu did nothing to suggest he should start

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1. Joe Marler - 7/10 - Actually thought he was good in the loose and was mullering Ross in the scrum. Went backwards when he went off, a good nick for the lad.
2. Tom Youngs - 4/10 - Poor lineout, and not great in the loose. Slightly improved when Hartley came on.
3. Dan Cole - 6/10 - Was OK in the scrum, anonymous in the loose.
4. Joe Launchbury - 5/10 - Very quiet.
5. Geoff Parling - 6/10 - Some silly knock ons and pens conceded, on the other hand made 2 vital steals at crucial times in the lineout. Mixed bag.
6. James Haskell - 5.5/10 - Tried to get away with the yellow but didn't, industrious, tackled where he could, but not much more.
7. Chris Robshaw - 7/10 - Didn't look good at the end being overrided by Farrell but apart from that tackled like a demon, and steers the ship very well.
8. Tom Wood - 6/10 - not as comfortable clearly at 8, but like Hask and Robbo, tackled well.
9. Ben Youngs - 8.5/10 - Our best player. A bit of a gem today, kept Ireland guessing, kept territory the game and nearly set up Tuilagi for a score whilst sniping when he could. MotM for me.
10. Owen Farrell - 7.5/10 - Points machine. Missed a few, and it wasn't a day for running rugby. Kicked fairly well. The iceman was cool.
11. Mike Brown - 6/10 - Some decent runs, and good in defence, kept territory the game for england.
12. Billy Twelvetrees - 5/10 - Generally quiet.
13. Brad Barritt - 6/10 - Defensively a beast, little else.
14. Chris Ashton - 6/10 - Really wasn't as bad as some have said on here, but was quiet like alot of the backline though.
15. Alex Goode - 7/10 - Played quite well, tactically was kicking accurately and just made Ireland play from their own half.

Subs:
15. Mako Vunipola - 6/10 - Was everywhere when he came on. Not as good as Marler in the scrum, but arguably better in the loose.
17. Dylan Hartley - 6/10 - Brought the team back under control at set piece when he arrived. Was a well timed substitution.
18. David Wilson - 5/10 - Lost a scrum when he was on.
19. Courtney Lawes - 6/10 - Played well and tackled well in the period he was on. Poor technique in the tackle at the Kearney hit and was replaced by TtTE. Hope he recovers.
20. Thomas Waldrom - 4/10 - Just because he's Thomas The Tank Engine.
21. Danny Care - Didn't get on
22. Toby Flood - Didn't get on
23. Manu Tuilagi - 5/10 - Wasn't on long and didn't do an awful lot. Looks a tad too big.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:12 pm 
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Fair play to The Hask­™ he was back to his brain-dead best.


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Incredibly composed performance in those conditions. :thumbup:

+ves. B Youngs, Robshaw, Goode, Brown (again), Farrell, Marler

-ves None really.


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Fair play to The Hask­™ he was back to his brain-dead best.


morgan should get sent back to glos for next weekend, get some game time, then take his rightful place at number 8

hask to the bench, as it should be


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As of SUNDAY:
1. New Zealand 90.08
2. South Africa 86.94
3. Australia 86.87
4. England 84.94
5. France 81.57
6. Ireland 80.27
7. Wales 79.19
8. Samoa 78.71
9. Argentina 78.71
10. Scotland 77.24
11. Italy 76.83
12. Tonga 76.10


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As of SUNDAY:
1. New Zealand 90.08
2. South Africa 86.94
3. Australia 86.87
4. England 84.94
5. France 81.57
6. Ireland 80.27
7. Wales 79.19
8. Samoa 78.71
9. Argentina 78.71
10. Scotland 77.24
11. Italy 76.83
12. Tonga 76.10


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Incredibly composed performance in those conditions. :thumbup:

+ves. B Youngs, Robshaw, Goode, Brown (again), Farrell, Marler

-ves None really.


Against Italy i'd still like to see Brown tried at full back, with 12Trees and Manu at centre, an another winner given a chance. Think SL will stick with the same back's that started the NZ game against France.

Goode's still a total snail, he did good today, didn't allow himself to get turned so much from kicks. Not that he did alot wrong against Scotland neither, just think Brown would exploit the space a FB would get far more effectively. Whether Brown's kicking under pressure would be as good as Goode was today i don't know.


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Not the weather for centres on either side, none of the 4 did anything.

Good away win in nightmare conditions. Locks need to buck up and we need morgan back.


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Ashton's stats - hope Flaps sees these!

2x kicks
1x pass
2x runs
1x metre gained
1x got turned over
2x tackles made
4x tackles missed
2x penalties given away

That is pretty shite.


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I shouldn't laugh but watching TMAB and OpenClash go at it, and Mick trolling the irish to death is mildly amusing. :lol: :lol:


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I shouldn't laugh but watching TMAB and OpenClash go at it, and Mick trolling the irish to death is mildly amusing. :lol: :lol:


you sir are welcome

feel free to join in, english solidarity and all that


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I shouldn't laugh but watching TMAB and OpenClash go at it, and Mick trolling the irish to death is mildly amusing. :lol: :lol:


you sir are welcome

feel free to join in, english solidarity and all that


TMAB is like a pop song in full lyric. Listen to it once, you'll be hooked for a bit. After a while, all of it sounds so f**king tedious you wack the thing on ignore list.

Mind you, I never get bored of 38-21.


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Incredibly composed performance in those conditions. :thumbup:

+ves. B Youngs, Robshaw, Goode, Brown (again), Farrell, Marler

-ves None really.


Against Italy i'd still like to see Brown tried at full back, with 12Trees and Manu at centre, an another winner given a chance. Think SL will stick with the same back's that started the NZ game against France.

Goode's still a total snail, he did good today, didn't allow himself to get turned so much from kicks. Not that he did alot wrong against Scotland neither, just think Brown would exploit the space a FB would get far more effectively. Whether Brown's kicking under pressure would be as good as Goode was today i don't know.

Still concerned about the lack of pace in the back 3. Hopefully May and Wade will get chances soon. Brown is a more effective runner than Goode.
Against Italy I would like to see:
15 Brown
14 Ashton
13 Manu
12 12trees
11 Wade
10 Faz
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I don't see Barritt getting dropped this 6N. Whatever you think of him, his defence is excellent. Thought we really missed Morgan today, it was pretty obvious we were playing without an 8. Can't really argue with what Lancaster is doing though, he didn't dilly-dally with the subs today and it made a difference.


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May looked featherweight on the wing last time.


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May looked featherweight on the wing last time.


pretty sure he made a try saving tackle for the saxons recently?

Wade definitely needs to be looked at soon.


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One of Wade or May on the left wing, with Brown at full back, would be rather handy. Especially with 36 at 12.


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Wade, Biggs or varndell at a push. The issue is that brown has to be in the side, either wing or fullback. He's an important player now.


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Wade, Biggs or varndell at a push. The issue is that brown has to be in the side, either wing or fullback. He's an important player now.


Not Biggs.

Maybe Foden, if he finds form again?


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Cracking win for us

Couple of interesting points:

Don't honestly see many of the backs going on the Lions tour, and at this stage it may be a good thing to keep some continuity on the summer tour, Argentina I think. An injection of pace would be good but as a unit the guys are really coming together.

In the scrums we seem to have taken the 'hit is everything' out of the engagement. In both games so far we have lost ground in several scrums on the hit and then pushed back to regain position. Not sure if this is deliberate from Rowntree to try and avoid the lottery of penalties on the engagement whilst having the confidence that the scrum will still say solid.


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Few points,

Last 6N was the same in the scrum, cant post link on me phone, on youtube look at the France-England game. It was effective then, France get the intial hit, the crowd cheers, then we turn the screw an drive them backwards.

IMO Farrell, Youngs an Manu have good shouts of Lion starts.

Barrett has cemented his place as a first choice centre alongside Manu, would just like to see abit if experimentation against Italy.

Lawes in, Launchbury out? Or too early? Coming off so early second half looks ominous. But if Parling is meant to be leading the line-out that flunked maybe try Launchbury leading the line out with Lawes coming in for Parling. Basically, i want Lawes in. An expect Hartley will be starting against France too.


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The word on the Irish rugby thread is that we're shit and only won because Sexton went off. Cheeky plum.


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There looking for a foreign coach they blame when there fighting for wooden spoon.


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