Re: **OFFICIAL** English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:38 pm
Think Robshaw will be a one club man.
I feel the same about Ford getting a run with a proper 12.Raggs wrote:Agreed. He's very good, but he's not the best player in the world. I would fancy seeing him at 10 for England, with a proper 12 though.RodneyRegis wrote:Fazlet has improved markedly, but this talk of best in the world is just laughable.
Yeah for sure- if his body holds up he’ll retire post RWC.Raggs wrote:Think Robshaw will be a one club man.
Unlike his dad who turned down playing for Italy back in the 80s, Polledri Jr opted to represent the Azzurri at U20s level and ended playing in the 2014 Junior World Cup on home ground.
But he remains English-qualified because of World Rugby regulations putting him in the best position to maybe one day play in the Premiership.
It might not be hard but it would be a big pain in the arse.eldanielfire wrote:It wouldn't be to hard to grab a train back from France a few times a week.fatcat wrote:Maybe, but I think he has at least two businesses here so I guess it depends on whether he could successfully run them from abroad.The Man Without Fear wrote:I reckon Robshaw will start at 6 in the RWC and play well enough to at least have one decent set of tournament memories, but see the writing on the wall and announce his international retirement as soon as we get knocked out. He might consider a pension top up in France as well because he owes Quins absolutely nothing at this stage in his career.
fatcat wrote: It might not be hard but it would be a big pain in the arse.
No way.fatcat wrote:It might not be hard but it would be a big pain in the arse.eldanielfire wrote:It wouldn't be to hard to grab a train back from France a few times a week.fatcat wrote:Maybe, but I think he has at least two businesses here so I guess it depends on whether he could successfully run them from abroad.The Man Without Fear wrote:I reckon Robshaw will start at 6 in the RWC and play well enough to at least have one decent set of tournament memories, but see the writing on the wall and announce his international retirement as soon as we get knocked out. He might consider a pension top up in France as well because he owes Quins absolutely nothing at this stage in his career.
I'm with Raggs, I don't think he'll move from Quins.
I doubt he'll move. He'll probably have some position within the club afterwards or even at headquarters as he seems well liked with the top brass.fatcat wrote:It might not be hard but it would be a big pain in the arse.eldanielfire wrote:It wouldn't be to hard to grab a train back from France a few times a week.fatcat wrote:Maybe, but I think he has at least two businesses here so I guess it depends on whether he could successfully run them from abroad.The Man Without Fear wrote:I reckon Robshaw will start at 6 in the RWC and play well enough to at least have one decent set of tournament memories, but see the writing on the wall and announce his international retirement as soon as we get knocked out. He might consider a pension top up in France as well because he owes Quins absolutely nothing at this stage in his career.
I'm with Raggs, I don't think he'll move from Quins.
Forwards coach, after Rowntree moves on?eldanielfire wrote:I doubt he'll move. He'll probably have some position within the club afterwards or even at headquarters as he seems well liked with the top brass.
No, it's because he's an out of control thug. There was a thread where lots of Irish posters said so.fatcat wrote:Marler cited for striking Ioane, naturally. Ioane cited for striking Marler 4 minutes prior to the red card incident. Perhaps Ioane was responsible for Marler's injured ear.
That can't be it surely? Perhaps after the camera pans away from Marler's second tackle of Ioane, there's something?fatcat wrote:Ioane's strike doesn't look too bad, but I guess if it caused Marler's ear to bleed like we saw...
Around 52:40 on the match clock - https://www.premiershiprugby.com/full-match-video/
Who knows. I don't really care about anything Ioane did anyway. Marler f**ked the game for us and with a fairly hefty ban he'll partly f**k the rest of the season for us. I'm annoyed.Raggs wrote:That can't be it surely? Perhaps after the camera pans away from Marler's second tackle of Ioane, there's something?fatcat wrote:Ioane's strike doesn't look too bad, but I guess if it caused Marler's ear to bleed like we saw...
Around 52:40 on the match clock - https://www.premiershiprugby.com/full-match-video/
I think the cat is right. Just after he releases and before the get up he elbows Marler in the side of the head, just before the camera pans away.Raggs wrote:That can't be it surely? Perhaps after the camera pans away from Marler's second tackle of Ioane, there's something?fatcat wrote:Ioane's strike doesn't look too bad, but I guess if it caused Marler's ear to bleed like we saw...
Around 52:40 on the match clock - https://www.premiershiprugby.com/full-match-video/
Ford looks out of sorts. Farrell is twice the player anyway tbh. Far better competitor. Ford is a bit if a flake.DragsterDriver wrote:I feel the same about Ford getting a run with a proper 12.Raggs wrote:Agreed. He's very good, but he's not the best player in the world. I would fancy seeing him at 10 for England, with a proper 12 though.RodneyRegis wrote:Fazlet has improved markedly, but this talk of best in the world is just laughable.
His defence is still poor, struggles in multi phase at 10- just not the natural Ford is. But he can kick, and England look better with the pair of them playing.
Did you see Farrell in the 3rd Lions test.terryfinch wrote:Ford looks out of sorts. Farrell is twice the player anyway tbh. Far better competitor. Ford is a bit if a flake.DragsterDriver wrote:I feel the same about Ford getting a run with a proper 12.Raggs wrote:Agreed. He's very good, but he's not the best player in the world. I would fancy seeing him at 10 for England, with a proper 12 though.RodneyRegis wrote:Fazlet has improved markedly, but this talk of best in the world is just laughable.
His defence is still poor, struggles in multi phase at 10- just not the natural Ford is. But he can kick, and England look better with the pair of them playing.
Yeah, I don't really care about the club form of players who perform at a high level for England time and again.DragsterDriver wrote:As ever- get the players to swap clubs and see how they go
He's a flanker who learned his rugby in England. Have a guessJeff the Bear wrote:The great Anglo-Welsh poachathon continues. Dragons have just signed Huw Taylor from Worcester (qualifies for Wales via is grandmother). Is he any good?
Righto. Dragons squad player it is.Chuckles1188 wrote:He's a flanker who learned his rugby in England. Have a guessJeff the Bear wrote:The great Anglo-Welsh poachathon continues. Dragons have just signed Huw Taylor from Worcester (qualifies for Wales via is grandmother). Is he any good?
Always a shame to lose promising young players. Taylor looked decent for the U20s but George Nott was far more impressive as I recall.Jeff the Bear wrote:The great Anglo-Welsh poachathon continues. Dragons have just signed Huw Taylor from Worcester (qualifies for Wales via is grandmother). Is he any good?
Don't even need to can them just nominate the U20s as the 2nd teamScrumhead wrote:Always a shame to lose promising young players. Taylor looked decent for the U20s but George Nott was far more impressive as I recall.Jeff the Bear wrote:The great Anglo-Welsh poachathon continues. Dragons have just signed Huw Taylor from Worcester (qualifies for Wales via is grandmother). Is he any good?
Perhaps we need to can the Saxons? They rarely play and we wouldn’t have this issue if our U20 was our second representative side.
You can't have the u20s as your second team any more can you?ovalball wrote:Don't even need to can them just nominate the U20s as the 2nd teamScrumhead wrote:Always a shame to lose promising young players. Taylor looked decent for the U20s but George Nott was far more impressive as I recall.Jeff the Bear wrote:The great Anglo-Welsh poachathon continues. Dragons have just signed Huw Taylor from Worcester (qualifies for Wales via is grandmother). Is he any good?
Perhaps we need to can the Saxons? They rarely play and we wouldn’t have this issue if our U20 was our second representative side.
Raggs wrote:ovalball wrote:Don't even need to can them just nominate the U20s as the 2nd teamScrumhead wrote:Always a shame to lose promising young players. Taylor looked decent for the U20s but George Nott was far more impressive as I recall.Jeff the Bear wrote:The great Anglo-Welsh poachathon continues. Dragons have just signed Huw Taylor from Worcester (qualifies for Wales via is grandmother). Is he any good?
Perhaps we need to can the Saxons? They rarely play and we wouldn’t have this issue if our U20 was our second representative side.
You can't have the u20s as your second team any more can you?
He is selected to represent the Under 20s National Representative
Team of a Union which has been pre-designated as that Union’s
next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team and the
Player is part of the team which participates in an International
Match as part of the World Rugby Junior World Championships,
World Rugby Junior World Rugby Trophy or the Six Nations U20
Championship and is present at the Match played by that Team
either as a replacement, substitute or playing member of that Team
and has, at the time of the Match, reached the age of majority.
Last update: 1 July, 2016ovalball wrote:Raggs wrote:ovalball wrote:Don't even need to can them just nominate the U20s as the 2nd teamScrumhead wrote:Always a shame to lose promising young players. Taylor looked decent for the U20s but George Nott was far more impressive as I recall.Jeff the Bear wrote:The great Anglo-Welsh poachathon continues. Dragons have just signed Huw Taylor from Worcester (qualifies for Wales via is grandmother). Is he any good?
Perhaps we need to can the Saxons? They rarely play and we wouldn’t have this issue if our U20 was our second representative side.
You can't have the u20s as your second team any more can you?
from the regs
http://www.worldrugby.org/wr-resources/ ... ation8.pdf
He is selected to represent the Under 20s National Representative
Team of a Union which has been pre-designated as that Union’s
next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team and the
Player is part of the team which participates in an International
Match as part of the World Rugby Junior World Championships,
World Rugby Junior World Rugby Trophy or the Six Nations U20
Championship and is present at the Match played by that Team
either as a replacement, substitute or playing member of that Team
and has, at the time of the Match, reached the age of majority.
You're right - new rules as 1 Jan 2018Raggs wrote:
That is old, I'm pretty sure they've changed it now.
That's my beef with it summed up perfectly. Youngsters sold the dream and you wouldn't blame them for believing the first person who said they were going to 'make it' as an international for their country.eldanielfire wrote:I dislike the idea of U20 side representation meaning your final national choice is made. Often it's simply the nature of regional developmental outcomes the next best level is U20 of where you live, which is not always what you identify as.
I also think that would constrain a lot of players in England to being essentially never having a chance at test level due to some young decisions they were possibly pushed into by ambition coaches.
Margin_Walker wrote:Polledri included in the Italy 6N training squad.
piquant wrote:Attack, defence, scrum, lineout, skills and even restart coaches I can live with, ambition coaches sounds like something only Clive would come up with
It's still unclear whether his under 20 cap tied him to Italy anyway. Hell of a talent though and a pity he won't be wearing an England shirt.TopNacker wrote:Margin_Walker wrote:Polledri included in the Italy 6N training squad.
England and the player will regret this is at some point in the future. Instead Eddie has gone for the one dimensional Underhill and Gary Graham.
How is it unclear ?forrester wrote:It's still unclear whether his under 20 cap tied him to Italy anyway. Hell of a talent though and a pity he won't be wearing an England shirt.TopNacker wrote:Margin_Walker wrote:Polledri included in the Italy 6N training squad.
England and the player will regret this is at some point in the future. Instead Eddie has gone for the one dimensional Underhill and Gary Graham.