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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:49 pm 
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We need mobile back rows who make ground using footwork. Teams chop carriers too well now.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:36 pm 
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We need mobile back rows who make ground using footwork. Teams chop carriers too well now.


Hopefully what we'll be doing to Basteraud at the weekend.


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Underhill out for the rest of the season, Mercer 2-4 weeks. Bath's insane injury curse keeps on trucking


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ovalball wrote:
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We need mobile back rows who make ground using footwork. Teams chop carriers too well now.


Hopefully what we'll be doing to Basteraud at the weekend.


He’s been playing really well!


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Underhill out for the rest of the season, Mercer 2-4 weeks. Bath's insane injury curse keeps on trucking


Well that’s a shit! Underhill is going full on Tom Rees at the moment.


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Would like to see how good Basta is with an excellent defence up in his face - he's crumbled against us before. Wouldn't want him on the front foot too often.


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Would like to see how good Basta is with an excellent defence up in his face - he's crumbled against us before. Wouldn't want him on the front foot too often.


He seems to be playing a bit of rugby as well these days, think teo will start anyway.

When is the team announced?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:58 pm 
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What's up with mercer? He looked fine at 78mins last week


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What's up with mercer? He looked fine at 78mins last week


Neck strain from that game.


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happyhooker wrote:
What's up with mercer? He looked fine at 78mins last week


"Strained his neck" apparently


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Premiership Player of the Month Jack Willis


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matta25 wrote:
Underhill out for the rest of the season, Mercer 2-4 weeks. Bath's insane injury curse keeps on trucking


Oh ffs! We’ve already got a team full of injury jokers!


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Premiership Player of the Month Jack Willis




Fully deserved. :thumbup:


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Yep, Willis has been superb. Reckon he'll be in the England fold before too long :thumbup:
Sam James has signed a new 4 year deal with Sale, good to see us signing all our young talent up. Only questions marks about contracts now are Charnley and Webber, the former is rumoured to have already put pen to paper which is good news. Would sign Webber up too but the Taylor rumours continue to swirl. I'd be delighted but surprised if he left Wasps for us.


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George, Teo and Watson starting at 2, 13 and 15.


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Hartley out, Brown dropped and Watson to full back, Daly on the wing. Good old Eddie.


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Ignore the backrow and I like most of it (apart from Wiggles).

Don't understand what Eddies trying to do with the backrow and bench though.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:33 am 
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That’s a stubborn back row selection, I guess he’s given them some faith and a lifeline.

Glad he didn’t throw ford under the bus- massive dropping brown though, for all his critics it’s still a big one.


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Teo OK, not convinced but I can see the benefit. Watson OK, need someone to get time in the shirt, Daly - just hope he's match ready - he's our best back.

But Fck knows what's with Eddie and the back row - it's just madness - they were awful v the Scots and aren't going to, suddenly, become an international quality unit - even if they manage to do enough against France.

At least he's had to give George a start, so there'll be a little more pace in the pack.


I remain, utterly unconvinced about Eddie. We've made zero progress in the last 18 months and there's precious few signs that he is acknowledging/tackling the real problems in the team.

Another loss would be no bad thing.


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I'll be doing ruck marks for this one. Different challenge to Scotland I suspect, but still hopefully informative.


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It's seems ironic that Brown gets dropped when heavy rain on a bog pitch are predicted, but let's hope Watson has a good game and then Brown's exclusion becomes permanent.

Everything is a horses for courses selection - France have a huge pack and an even bigger centre. Ypres 2018.


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ovalball wrote:

I remain, utterly unconvinced about Eddie. We've made zero progress in the last 18 months and there's precious few signs that he is acknowledging/tackling the real problems in the team.



I am coming around to the same POV. Loads in the southern hemisphere press that the ARU want Jones back after the RWC - regardless of his contract extension with England. Might not be a bad offer to take up - I can't see any decent coach worth his salt wanting a 2-year hand-over period sat next to Jones anyway.


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That’s a stubborn back row selection, I guess he’s given them some faith and a lifeline.

Glad he didn’t throw ford under the bus- massive dropping brown though, for all his critics it’s still a big one.


Wonder if Eddie has decided that the 6N is basically gone, and is now trying to move a few small things forwards.


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I'll be doing ruck marks for this one. Different challenge to Scotland I suspect, but still hopefully informative.


Yeah, expecting a lot more counter-rucking and choke tackles than the jackaling against Scotland. In that context, I’d say retaining 3 locks makes sense. Guess we’ll also be looking to kick for territory and disrupt the French lineout.

Should be plenty of impact from the forwards bench!


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But despite playing 3 locks we don't seem to challenge opposition line-outs that much.


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certainly not what we expected


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But despite playing 3 locks we don't seem to challenge opposition line-outs that much.


I think we've contested a bit more than we did last year, but would agree that we don't seem to be going after every one as you'd expect.


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Personally im happy with the side - would like to think Underhill would have started if available.


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But despite playing 3 locks we don't seem to challenge opposition line-outs that much.


Indeed!

I’m a little excited about Cowan dickie getting a run out anyway, especially if Simmonds is on and the game opens up.


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It's seems ironic that Brown gets dropped when heavy rain on a bog pitch are predicted, but let's hope Watson has a good game and then Brown's exclusion becomes permanent.

Everything is a horses for courses selection - France have a huge pack and an even bigger centre. Ypres 2018.


Still reckon Watson is wasted at Fullback. We do need options at 15 but I can't see Watson as the permanent answer. I think I would have preferred Daly to come in at 15 tbh (although I'm not convinced he is the answer there either).


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It's seems ironic that Brown gets dropped when heavy rain on a bog pitch are predicted, but let's hope Watson has a good game and then Brown's exclusion becomes permanent.

Everything is a horses for courses selection - France have a huge pack and an even bigger centre. Ypres 2018.


Still reckon Watson is wasted at Fullback. We do need options at 15 but I can't see Watson as the permanent answer. I think I would have preferred Daly to come in at 15 tbh (although I'm not convinced he is the answer there either).




[Rumsfeld]As we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know like Brown is shite and getting worse. We also know there are known unknowns such as Daly, could he be a great fullback; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know. [/Rumsfeld]


The answer might well not be Watson or Daly - but we know already that Brown is not the right option.


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certainly not what we expected


Only the Watson for Brown selection - everything else is predictable - it was only the media suggesting that Ford would be dropped - that back row x(


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Hopefully the weather isn't awful - it's not guaranteed full on rain (sun around too in the afternoon), but likely to be wet.

I was expecting the Hask to come in but regardless I'm fine with the team.

If we win we'll move on from there - a loss and calls for a wider rethink will grow louder.

Some good "finishers" on the bench with Cowan Dickie, Sinckler, Simmonds and Joseph all very mobile.


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Chips wrote:
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Chips wrote:
It's seems ironic that Brown gets dropped when heavy rain on a bog pitch are predicted, but let's hope Watson has a good game and then Brown's exclusion becomes permanent.

Everything is a horses for courses selection - France have a huge pack and an even bigger centre. Ypres 2018.


Still reckon Watson is wasted at Fullback. We do need options at 15 but I can't see Watson as the permanent answer. I think I would have preferred Daly to come in at 15 tbh (although I'm not convinced he is the answer there either).




[Rumsfeld]As we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know like Brown is shite and getting worse. We also know there are known unknowns such as Daly, could he be a great fullback; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know. [/Rumsfeld]


The answer might well not be Watson or Daly - but we know already that Brown is not the right option.



I think it would be fair to say that Watson is likely to be better than Brown would be - if he's given the shirt, full time, between now and the RWC. Watson will improve, Brown will only get worse (as will the likes of Cole and Hartley).


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Strange call to drop Brown given the likely conditions. Looking forward to seeing that back three if they get good ball though :thumbup:


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Strange call to drop Brown given the likely conditions. Looking forward to seeing that back three if they get good ball though :thumbup:



Indeed - Watson's last 15 showing in that insane game versus Australia (was it?) wasn't the best yardstick.


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45jumper wrote:
Strange call to drop Brown given the likely conditions. Looking forward to seeing that back three if they get good ball though :thumbup:



Indeed - Watson's last 15 showing in that insane game versus Australia (was it?) wasn't the best yardstick.


He's also been ropey when pushed there as a replacement


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How many tackles will Farrell miss on Bastareaud :(( ? Tough call to drop Joseph, as ever.


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If he’s trained at 15 this week he may be more settled? Wonder how brown will cope as a dirtracker, he’s reputed to be a bit of an arsehole.


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