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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:32 pm 
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Seems like France have 16 players when they are defending, we've created no space because the ball is soooooo slow.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:38 pm 
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Something has gone wrong with the England side. We look so ponderous.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:40 pm 
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Lets face it. All this time under Jones and England don't look any different to his first game. All those close wins masked the fact we are not progressing under Jones. Even Scotland look like they going in the right direction (they are still shit though).

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:17 pm 
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Results really have flattered this England team.

Huge question marks now.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:35 pm 
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maverickmak wrote:
Results really have flattered this England team.

Huge question marks now.


Yep. We’ve all said it.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:36 pm 
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I really hope we see a massive reaction to that rather unedifying non performance against Scotland and take it to France with some real fury.


:uhoh:


Zero reaction. Zero intensity. Just pure $hit.


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Trying to take the positives, much better last 20. I think the players that came on were much better than some of the starters.

Again, taking the positives hopefully we'll see some changes now both in personnel and direction.


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Trying to take the positives, much better last 20. I think the players that came on were much better than some of the starters.

Again, taking the positives hopefully we'll see some changes now both in personnel and direction.

Coles done.

Please for the love of god let that be it.

Has t brought anything for years.


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The same players are continuing to get picked and continuing to fail. Dan Cole is so bad at the moment it's just laughable. Robshaw is terrible at 7, Lawes terrible at 6. Care just mediocre.

Sort 1-9 out and then lets see what the rest can do.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:41 pm 
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What does Eddie see in Lawes and Care? They're f**king awful.


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Robshaw and Haskell gave away 9 points today in penalties

If they're the answer then we're asking the wrong question


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Is our backrow the worst in the competition?


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Some nice highlights of England actually getting to rucks first towards the end, it has been a while.


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maverickmak wrote:
Is our backrow the worst in the competition?

Yes


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We end 4 games with the worst ruck success % in the tournament.


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To me is clear that we only have one world class player - Elliott Daly


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Itoje was the only starting forward who played with any impact and even he was playing at least 50% worse than his debut season

Lawes and Robshaw shite. Front row a joke. Launchbury AWOL

Changes changes changes


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We end 4 games with the worst ruck success % in the tournament.

:lol: you have to laugh, otherwise you'd cry


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To me is clear that we only have one world class player - Elliott Daly



Stop being silly.


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Lets not all be to negative. We have lots of yesterday men in the team but at least maybe Jones might now accept they are done. Plus 10,12 does not work


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Disagree - the issue is we have an appalling back row that lacks any sort of balance.

It would not be unfair to say that they actually did not know what they were supposed to do.
Lawes is a complete lottery when he carries the ball into contact - maybe it comes back our way, maybe he spills it or gets turned. More often than not he ends up having to scrap to hold onto it and the ball is slowed down.

Cole needs the hook also. He's not there.


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I think Eddie thinks he is coaching a league side


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Sinkler was outstanding , Haskell carried more in 10 minutes than the starting backrow did all game.


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bimboman wrote:
Keith wrote:
To me is clear that we only have one world class player - Elliott Daly



Stop being silly.

Name the others. If you mention Farrell.... :?


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POC's comments in the build up were spot on. England want to play wide-wide so don't number up at the breakdown. The opposition have had a couple of seasons to work this out and now they are just piling in at the breakdown and England are refusing to adjust. We defended really well today but that counts for the square root of fudge all when you can't build a score.


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I still think playing Ford and Farrell together hampers both of them.


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Daly did terrificly well for a player with no recent game-time but that push?? I think England scored a try then although the French cameras didn't show it.


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I think Eddie thinks he is coaching a league side

His strategy is to have as little as needed in the ruck and then to overlap all the time.

That works if you have a big pack who are fast. England are a physically small team, we need to fight for anything we get.


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I still think playing Ford and Farrell together hampers both of them.

We might have to make a choice now yes.


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Daly did terrificly well for a player with no recent game-time but that push?? I think England scored a try then although the French cameras didn't show it.

He pushed him because he couldn't avoid him. It was a block which the rather timid touch judge bought.


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What happened to England's scrum and maul? Eddie Jones has not sorted this at all.

The attack: England have stopped being able to create chances. This happened in the AIs, when they capitalised on mistakes rather then creating chances. Now in championship matches they are being exposed.

The breakdown. We all know the issues. But it's not just an Openside and backrow balance. The tight 5 is incapable of basting off opponents on our ball. In fact frequently England players stand there watching the context and realise they have to get involved. hence the turnovers we conceed.

Nobody runs onto the ball. It's all static. It's all shit slow ball.

The line-up. The subs showed how vastly superior they were as carriers. Haskell was good, Sinklar was dynamite, LCD was dynamic.

The Grassroots. Why do England consistently produce players without the full array of skills and physicality. Almost every key player has a fault.


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England are a physically small team, we need to fight for anything we get.

Small? :?


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Robshaw and Haskell gave away 9 points today in penalties

If they're the answer then we're asking the wrong question


Robshaw gave away three points for a penalty where even POC said he couldn't do anything about it and won several turnovers.

Haskell had a big impact with his carrying and clearing. It's no surprise that we actually looked threatening once the subs came on and actually hit rucks hard.


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Maverick and Wendigo you're both three stages too far into the "dealing with getting bummed at the breakdown" survival guide

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1. The ref on the day
2. The reffing in the Premiership
3. Anyone in the tight five who had a bad game
4. Anyone in the backline who had a bad game
5. The Premiership for picking too many foreign 7s
6. The Premiership for not picking any 7s at all
7. Our age-grade sides for not producing any 7s
8. Tom Rees for retiring so early


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Daly did terrificly well for a player with no recent game-time but that push?? I think England scored a try then although the French cameras didn't show it.

He pushed him because he couldn't avoid him. It was a block which the rather timid touch judge bought.

The penalty should have gone to us, it was a deliberate block


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Robshaw and Haskell gave away 9 points today in penalties

If they're the answer then we're asking the wrong question


Robshaw gave away three points for a penalty where even POC said he couldn't do anything about it and won several turnovers.

Haskell had a big impact with his carrying and clearing. It's no surprise that we actually looked threatening once the subs came on and actually hit rucks hard.

+1

England looked better with them at 6 & 7. As crap as the first 60 minutes were, the last 20 gives me some hope.


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JM2K6 wrote:
openclashXX wrote:
Robshaw and Haskell gave away 9 points today in penalties

If they're the answer then we're asking the wrong question


Robshaw gave away three points for a penalty where even POC said he couldn't do anything about it and won several turnovers.

Haskell had a big impact with his carrying and clearing. It's no surprise that we actually looked threatening once the subs came on and actually hit rucks hard.


Robshaw gave away an offside penalty and a breakdown penalty - both were kicked for points

Haskell gave away a breakdown penalty - kicked for points

That's 9 points in a game we lost by 6


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openclashXX wrote:
Maverick and Wendigo you're both three stages too far into the "dealing with getting bummed at the breakdown" survival guide

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1. The ref on the day
2. The reffing in the Premiership
3. Anyone in the tight five who had a bad game
4. Anyone in the backline who had a bad game
5. The Premiership for picking too many foreign 7s
6. The Premiership for not picking any 7s at all
7. Our age-grade sides for not producing any 7s
8. Tom Rees for retiring so early

:lol: :lol: :thumbup: thanks for that open. Cheered me up.


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Somehow I think the f**king penalty try and yellow card from Watson was more telling than back rows giving away penalties trying to do their job


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