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fatcat wrote:One of my best pals is a season ticket holder and one of the minis coaches - I would ask him, but he knows f*ck all about rugby.Raggs wrote:Any London Scottish types here? Any comments on Sam Neal? He's apparently signed for Wasps. From highlights he seems to have fairly good hands for a big lad (6'5" centre).
*confirmation Raggs isn’t joe simpson*Raggs wrote:fatcat wrote:One of my best pals is a season ticket holder and one of the minis coaches - I would ask him, but he knows f*ck all about rugby.Raggs wrote:Any London Scottish types here? Any comments on Sam Neal? He's apparently signed for Wasps. From highlights he seems to have fairly good hands for a big lad (6'5" centre).
On another note, Dan Robson signs a long term deal with Wasps, very happy with that.
Raggs wrote:Ross then, sorry, just read the name quicklyMargin_Walker wrote:Ross Neal surely? Unless they have another tall Neal playing centre.Raggs wrote:Any London Scottish types here? Any comments on Sam Neal? He's apparently signed for Wasps. From highlights he seems to have fairly good hands for a big lad (6'5" centre).
Was senior academy at LI for three years, but just missed out on a senior contract. I would have rather kept him than Hearn. Formed a pretty decent centre partnership with Mosses at LS since.
He looks pretty decent, but you never know how they'll make the step up..
Hopefully he'll make the step up, only 22, so still plenty young enough to develop. Hopefully he'll follow in the footsteps of Thompson, Bassett, Cruse and Reider.
Armitage is off, but he's 26? or so I believe, so I'm hoping the younger one can develop more.Nieghorn wrote:Raggs wrote:Ross then, sorry, just read the name quicklyMargin_Walker wrote:Ross Neal surely? Unless they have another tall Neal playing centre.Raggs wrote:Any London Scottish types here? Any comments on Sam Neal? He's apparently signed for Wasps. From highlights he seems to have fairly good hands for a big lad (6'5" centre).
Was senior academy at LI for three years, but just missed out on a senior contract. I would have rather kept him than Hearn. Formed a pretty decent centre partnership with Mosses at LS since.
He looks pretty decent, but you never know how they'll make the step up.
Hopefully he'll make the step up, only 22, so still plenty young enough to develop. Hopefully he'll follow in the footsteps of Thompson, Bassett, Cruse and Reider.
And not that other 6'5" centre they'd signed previously. (Armitage is off, too, isn't he?)
Yarde shurely?maherro wrote:Gents, sorry to interrupt your national thread but I've a quick question. I was listening to the egg chasers podcast and they were talking about Quins. They mentioned that Sinckler was part of the Wade 'clique'. What happened there? All I know is that Wade left under a cloud.
Anyways. As you were.
Wade is at wasps. Do you mean yarde?maherro wrote:Gents, sorry to interrupt your national thread but I've a quick question. I was listening to the egg chasers podcast and they were talking about Quins. They mentioned that Sinckler was part of the Wade 'clique'. What happened there? All I know is that Wade left under a cloud.
Anyways. As you were.
Either they or you are fairly racist is all I took form this classic case of "They all look the same"maherro wrote:Gents, sorry to interrupt your national thread but I've a quick question. I was listening to the egg chasers podcast and they were talking about Quins. They mentioned that Sinckler was part of the Wade 'clique'. What happened there? All I know is that Wade left under a cloud.
Anyways. As you were.
Wasps mutiny! England stars Elliot Daly and Joe Launchbury set to leave over 'broken promises' on training facilities and contracts
But Coventry-based side face growing threat of an exodus of their leading stars
Players unhappy as they were promised state-of-the-art training facilities in 2014
By Chris Foy for the Daily Mail
PUBLISHED: 22:31, 25 April 2018 | UPDATED: 23:29, 25 April 2018
Wasps face the growing threat of an exodus of their leading stars, with a mutinous mood in the squad over ‘broken promises’ relating to late payments and new facilities.
Coventry-based Wasps resume their Premiership title challenge on Sunday when they meet Northampton at the Ricoh Arena but there is serious unrest behind the scenes.
Patience is thin, caused by a lack of anticipated investment against a backdrop of financial turmoil. This jars with the perception that the club are enjoying a new era of prosperity.
Sportsmail has learned that marquee players such as Elliot Daly, Joe Launchbury and Christian Wade are expected to leave when their contracts expire unless Wasps address their grievances. Sources have indicated that the discontent and resentment have become so heightened that some fear there will be a flashpoint before most of those deals run out.
The primary gripes among players and coaching staff relate to inadequate training facilities and the backlog in image-rights payments, which are thought to account for about 15 per cent of overall salaries.
Wasps moved to Coventry at the end of 2014, and owner Derek Richardson pledged that they would have to use a temporary training base for only six months, before a new, state-of-the-art HQ was ready.
Three years on, two sites which were identified have been ditched and a new location is being sought. The message from the hierarchy is that it will be at least another two years before they no longer have to act as reluctant squatters in the basic surroundings at Broadstreet RFC.
There, the supposedly wealthy club have portable cabins serving as offices in the car park. They share changing rooms with Broadstreet teams and use the clubhouse for lunch — ‘It’s like eating in a pub every day we are training,’ said one player.
Outside, Wasps have only one pitch and players have voiced concerns that the tired surface is contributing to a run of injuries.
Misgivings have also been expressed about the state of the pitch at the Ricoh Arena but nothing had been done about it. Instead, urgent work had to be carried out when cracks were found in the walls of the stadium last month.
Sportsmail has been told that image-rights payments were not made to Wasps players for two years. That problem was addressed earlier this season but now it is understood payments are six months in arrears again.
There is a widespread feeling that all areas of expenditure are under pressure and that the academy is being denied vital investment in favour of ‘window dressing’.
Another grievance within the squad was the handling of Sam Jones’s premature retirement. The flanker, who suffered career-ending injuries performing judo drills training with England in 2016, was upset that his wages were halted immediately he announced he had to stop playing.
Team-mates were angry but the board argued that he had been paid in full for 17 months while rehabilitating, when a contract only requires wages to remain at normal levels for six months of inactivity. Still, the saga served to further strain morale — not helped by poor communication between the powers-that-be and the players.
Unrest behind the scenes comes at a time of financial turbulence. Wasps launched a bond scheme in 2015, which yielded £35million, but they owe £2m in interest each year and must settle the debt in full in four years’ time.
Doubts have been expressed by independent experts about their ability to do so, with claims that the club will need to refinance.
At the end of last year, Wasps were forced to seek permission from bond holders to break the terms of the deal after Richardson made a personal payment to make up for a shortfall in the scheme.
Last month, it was reported that Wasps’ financial statements were three months overdue and that Companies House were taking enforcement action against what amounts to a criminal offence.
While the public see a club riding high, with a viable home of their own at last, a title-chasing team and box-office appeal, the reality is that all is not well. It has been suggested that Wasps are at a crossroads and that without the right investment, the feared exodus will happen.
Brazil wrote:The Wasps players are such entitled pricks, I’d love to eat lunch in the pub every day.
I think that one must be bollocks myself (or taken out of context, could have just as easily been someone saying it's great, it's like eating at the pub every day!). The club does introduction videos for new players, always asks the best 3 things so far and the food inevitably is one of them, the interviews with the props seem to have them wanting to marry the chef. Think the one with Watson said that Ben Harris had been telling the Falcons boys (he was loaned to Wasps at first) how good the food was.Brazil wrote:The Wasps players are such entitled pricks, I’d love to eat lunch in the pub every day.
With Haskell leaving the Wasps players obviously dread a new era of poor quality banter.Margin_Walker wrote:Chris Foy often seems to have pretty decent sources, so doubt this is all from Hask's Instagram. There's probably a few issues there behind the scenes even if much of the article is exaggerated. Financial angle/non payment of image rights probably of most note.
Certainly odd going with the exodus of newly re-signed players angle
Daly signed a new one this season too (so did WLR and Robson, along with Miller, Bassett, Reider etc). Wade has constantly been rumoured to be off to France, so him leaving would hardly be proof of anything in my mind.45jumper wrote:I did find the bit about Launch, Daly and Wade leaving especially strange as the former only signed a new contract in December
Yeah, but you were convinced that Maunder was the best scrum half in the world, based on 2 minutes and 2 passes.englishchief wrote:I had it in my head that Bassett was going to France?
TaPlastic Sarrie wrote:Better?
Who are in the reserves? Tompkins and Earle could be regulars in most other clubs, you'd reckon.Portcullis Irish wrote:Cowan to give us all the Sarries trade secrets?
Sarries bench all starters for our 15 no wonder they are deep in the red.
I doubt it Falcons are running out of steam. Great season though.DragsterDriver wrote:Falcons v tigers should be decent tonight
OhNo wrote:I doubt it Falcons are running out of steam. Great season though.DragsterDriver wrote:Falcons v tigers should be decent tonight
They looked a bit jaded against Glaws last week, but had rested a few key players so maybe not this week?Nabberuk wrote:OhNo wrote:I doubt it Falcons are running out of steam. Great season though.DragsterDriver wrote:Falcons v tigers should be decent tonight
Nah
I think tigers will be the same as last week. Creating opportunities but failing to finish them off.SaintK wrote:They looked a bit jaded against Glaws last week, but had rested a few key players so maybe not this week?Nabberuk wrote:OhNo wrote:I doubt it Falcons are running out of steam. Great season though.DragsterDriver wrote:Falcons v tigers should be decent tonight
Nah
