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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:39 pm 
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I follow it every other year at the moment.

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I follow it every other year at the moment.


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He was shown up when he did play international rugby. Lovely chap, good defensive organiser, not much pace, size, or creative ability.

Muddy was absolute quality at domestic and European levels. His pairing with Abbott was crucial to Wasps' success. He was a sub on England's disastrous antipodean tour in 2004. Tough break.


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He was shown up when he did play international rugby. Lovely chap, good defensive organiser, not much pace, size, or creative ability.

Muddy was absolute quality at domestic and European levels. His pairing with Abbott was crucial to Wasps' success. He was a sub on England's disastrous antipodean tour in 2004. Tough break.


He was an excellent club player. Pretty one paced though.


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Cips arrested and charged by Jersey police (don't know why).

"loosen those cuffs, these are wrists of gold" :lol:


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I don't know if any of you have been following Christian Scotland-Williamson's shot at the NFL but this is a nice insight into what he's going through: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoU6nPV5ihw&index=4&list=PLRdw3IjKY2glQJCMUKSAddEFd3O0BlJTU


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Margin_Walker wrote:
I follow it every other year at the moment.


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Richmond decide to troll Harlequins and Eddie Jones:

https://twitter.com/RichmondFC1861/stat ... 7291573249


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Do many posters here follow The Championship much?

I don't follow it closely but paradoxically I go to more games then I do premiership matches with Richmond being fairly close and I'll be joining Bobcock for a few games at Ealing.

These days I'm almost of the opinion I prefer watching at this level, it feels more fun to watch, more passionate.



There used to be group of championship followers on here (and Nat1 as it was before) with the Scores on the door thread. I still keep an eye Penzance and go to a game or two. Also go to Nat1, Nat2 s&n matches with Redruth, Blaydon, Darlington and Tynedale


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OhNo wrote:
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Do many posters here follow The Championship much?

I don't follow it closely but paradoxically I go to more games then I do premiership matches with Richmond being fairly close and I'll be joining Bobcock for a few games at Ealing.

These days I'm almost of the opinion I prefer watching at this level, it feels more fun to watch, more passionate.


I follow it as my wife and in-laws are pirates. Get to 3-4 matches a season, usually all away.

There used to be group of championship followers on here (and Nat1 as it was before) with the Scores on the door thread. I still keep an eye Penzance and go to a game or two. Also go to Nat1, Nat2 s&n matches with Redruth, Blaydon, Darlington and Tynedale


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OhNo wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Do many posters here follow The Championship much?

I don't follow it closely but paradoxically I go to more games then I do premiership matches with Richmond being fairly close and I'll be joining Bobcock for a few games at Ealing.

These days I'm almost of the opinion I prefer watching at this level, it feels more fun to watch, more passionate.



There used to be group of championship followers on here (and Nat1 as it was before) with the Scores on the door thread. I still keep an eye Penzance and go to a game or two. Also go to Nat1, Nat2 s&n matches with Redruth, Blaydon, Darlington and Tynedale



Cool :thumbup:


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OhNo wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Do many posters here follow The Championship much?

I don't follow it closely but paradoxically I go to more games then I do premiership matches with Richmond being fairly close and I'll be joining Bobcock for a few games at Ealing.

These days I'm almost of the opinion I prefer watching at this level, it feels more fun to watch, more passionate.



There used to be group of championship followers on here (and Nat1 as it was before) with the Scores on the door thread. I still keep an eye Penzance and go to a game or two. Also go to Nat1, Nat2 s&n matches with Redruth, Blaydon, Darlington and Tynedale


Do you live near a worm hole?


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I don't know if any of you have been following Christian Scotland-Williamson's shot at the NFL but this is a nice insight into what he's going through: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoU6nPV5ihw&index=4&list=PLRdw3IjKY2glQJCMUKSAddEFd3O0BlJTU


"The Monster Tackle"

Lucky NFL scouts haven't seen any Courtney Lawes highlight reels...


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polyallstar wrote:
OhNo wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Do many posters here follow The Championship much?

I don't follow it closely but paradoxically I go to more games then I do premiership matches with Richmond being fairly close and I'll be joining Bobcock for a few games at Ealing.

These days I'm almost of the opinion I prefer watching at this level, it feels more fun to watch, more passionate.



There used to be group of championship followers on here (and Nat1 as it was before) with the Scores on the door thread. I still keep an eye Penzance and go to a game or two. Also go to Nat1, Nat2 s&n matches with Redruth, Blaydon, Darlington and Tynedale


Do you live near a worm hole?


I don’t know if calling Newcastle Airport and flybe a wormhole is a complement or an insult.


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Only a friendly but the Cornish Pirates beat the Exeter Chiefs 29-21 last night at The Mennaye!


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To be fair, it was very much a reserve team that played with only a handful who’ll get a look in for the Premiership.

Exeter’s real fixture is today against Cardiff Blues. There are much more first-teamers in the side that’s been named.


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Sale beat Castres in France on Friday, Ashton sent off for fighting and Taurus also red carded. Quite spicy for a pre season game :lol:


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polyallstar wrote:
Diego wrote:
I don't know if any of you have been following Christian Scotland-Williamson's shot at the NFL but this is a nice insight into what he's going through: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoU6nPV5ihw&index=4&list=PLRdw3IjKY2glQJCMUKSAddEFd3O0BlJTU


"The Monster Tackle"

Lucky NFL scouts haven't seen any Courtney Lawes highlight reels...


Too slow and lanky.

Isn't this Scotland-Williamson being considered for TE, where tackling isn't even necessary?


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OhNo wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Do many posters here follow The Championship much?

I don't follow it closely but paradoxically I go to more games then I do premiership matches with Richmond being fairly close and I'll be joining Bobcock for a few games at Ealing.

These days I'm almost of the opinion I prefer watching at this level, it feels more fun to watch, more passionate.



There used to be group of championship followers on here (and Nat1 as it was before) with the Scores on the door thread. I still keep an eye Penzance and go to a game or two. Also go to Nat1, Nat2 s&n matches with Redruth, Blaydon, Darlington and Tynedale

Beautiful ground on the upper Tyne. Great pub, The Dyvels right by the entrance :thumbup: :thumbup:


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polyallstar wrote:
Diego wrote:
I don't know if any of you have been following Christian Scotland-Williamson's shot at the NFL but this is a nice insight into what he's going through: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoU6nPV5ihw&index=4&list=PLRdw3IjKY2glQJCMUKSAddEFd3O0BlJTU


"The Monster Tackle"

Lucky NFL scouts haven't seen any Courtney Lawes highlight reels...


Too slow and lanky.

Isn't this Scotland-Williamson being considered for TE, where tackling isn't even necessary?


No idea, the Aussie NRL guy that got drafted was an utter monster though, hands like shovels!

6 foot 8 and 157 kg :uhoh:


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SaintK wrote:
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eldanielfire wrote:
Do many posters here follow The Championship much?

I don't follow it closely but paradoxically I go to more games then I do premiership matches with Richmond being fairly close and I'll be joining Bobcock for a few games at Ealing.

These days I'm almost of the opinion I prefer watching at this level, it feels more fun to watch, more passionate.



There used to be group of championship followers on here (and Nat1 as it was before) with the Scores on the door thread. I still keep an eye Penzance and go to a game or two. Also go to Nat1, Nat2 s&n matches with Redruth, Blaydon, Darlington and Tynedale

Beautiful ground on the upper Tyne. Great pub, The Dyvels right by the entrance :thumbup: :thumbup:


It is a great ground and the pub is good. Have been many a time. Tynedale is a partner approved day out as can get a train there (station by the ground) so no one has to drive, have lunch and then train back after the game for an evening in toon.


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Sale beat Castres in France on Friday, Ashton sent off for fighting and Taurus also red carded. Quite spicy for a pre season game :lol:



https://www.ruck.co.uk/watch-chris-ashton-in-danger-of-ban-after-incident-during-pre-season-friendly/


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Sale beat Castres in France on Friday, Ashton sent off for fighting and Taurus also red carded. Quite spicy for a pre season game :lol:



https://www.ruck.co.uk/watch-chris-ashton-in-danger-of-ban-after-incident-during-pre-season-friendly/


Go on Chris, smack the bastard!


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If anyone is desperate to watch rugby, Sarries-Ospreys is being streamed on Sarries' facebook tomorrow, 1800 kick off

Decent teams :thumbup:
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I’m interested to see whether Lozowski ends-up replacing Bosch at 13. Probably most beneficial for England if he does TBH with Joseph injured, Slade underwhelming, Daly preferred at 11 or 15 and the high likelihood of Tuilagi being injured too.


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I’m interested to see whether Lozowski ends-up replacing Bosch at 13. Probably most beneficial for England if he does TBH with Joseph injured, Slade underwhelming, Daly preferred at 11 or 15 and the high likelihood of Tuilagi being injured too.

Does he have the legs for 13? Looks the part when playing on the inside.


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Bosch is pretty much done, I think. Last year of his Sarries contract, and I'll reckon he'll call it a day.

Loz was decent at the tail end of last season, started the final, so clearly McCall rates him.


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I’m interested to see whether Lozowski ends-up replacing Bosch at 13. Probably most beneficial for England if he does TBH with Joseph injured, Slade underwhelming, Daly preferred at 11 or 15 and the high likelihood of Tuilagi being injured too.

Does he have the legs for 13? Looks the part when playing on the inside.


What do you mean by this? If you’re referring to pace, Lozowski has plenty. I think he’s probably faster than Slade and Tuilagi.


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Loz definitely has some wheels. Hopefully he's spent all pre season training at 13 and improving his defensive reads.


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I'm wondering what Loz does better at 13 than Joe Marchant.


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I’m a big fan of Marchant’s. He needs a really strong, injury-free season to push himself from being on the fringes of the squad to getting a proper chance.

Given how close we are to the World Cup, I suspect Eddie will want to focus on players he knows and Marchant has had an unfortunate track record of getting injured whenever he makes the squad.


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I’m interested to see whether Lozowski ends-up replacing Bosch at 13. Probably most beneficial for England if he does TBH with Joseph injured, Slade underwhelming, Daly preferred at 11 or 15 and the high likelihood of Tuilagi being injured too.

Does he have the legs for 13? Looks the part when playing on the inside.


What do you mean by this? If you’re referring to pace, Lozowski has plenty. I think he’s probably faster than Slade and Tuilagi.

When he was at Wasps I don't recall him having the sort of gas that would make him an outside centre like Joseph or Daly but he's clearly a better distributor which is why I have always liked him as a sort of second five eight. Compared with Slade he's got the better attributes IMO. As for Manu his x-factor was more to do with his ability to run straight over people.


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Loz has serious pace.


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Tom Youngs: The trauma of my wife's battle with terminal cancer - and our new hope for the future

Tom Youngs possesses one of those rare infectious smiles that can light up an entire room. Even throughout an often harrowing account of his wife’s diagnosis with terminal cancer and subsequent remission, a grin rarely leave the face of the Leicester captain, knowing that life as a husband, father and professional rugby player is finally returning to normal.

His eyes, however, briefly betray the flashes of the pain of having to help plan his Tiffany’s funeral and telling their daughter, Maisie, that mummy is going to heaven. Even now, the 31-year-old struggles to express how they managed to cope with so many conflicting emotions over the past 18 months.

“It is very hard for people to understand or imagine, but when you are in the situation you are in the situation,” Youngs says in his first newspaper interview since Tiffany was given the all-clear. “You just crack on. There’s no other way to get through it.”

Shortly after giving birth to Maisie in 2013, Tiffany developed a persistent cough. After undergoing tests, it was confirmed that, at 28, she had Hodgkin’s lymphoma, a form of cancer that develops within the lymphatic system, a network of vessels and glands that spread throughout the body. Then in 2017, Tiffany was told that she had between four weeks and a year to live. After years of chemotherapy, Tiffany started seeking alternative treatments. Slowly, she started improving but in February this year she fell ill again and had to be admitted to hospital. The doctors booked her in for a scan while she was there. Not expecting the results until the following day, Tom, Maisie and Tiffany’s mother popped out to get some food. Then the phone rang.

“I was in the car with her mum and Maisie going to Wagamama when she rang to say it’s gone,” Youngs said. “Obviously, it was incredibly emotional, but it took some digesting. It probably was not until our time off in the summer that we could sit down, digest it and realise it has gone so that we can move on with our lives. That was one of the best things, the ten days in Portugal just being a family again, the three of us. It was just like any family holiday but for us it was so special.”

The news that Tiffany was in remission was made public in May as Tom’s brother, Ben, withdrew from the Lions tour to New Zealand. Just 12 months previously, Tiffany was planning her own funeral and meticulously making all the necessary arrangements for how life would continue without her.

“I knew everything as well as I could so if she asked me a question at 2am about where something is I could say it is in a box downstairs in the garage,” Youngs said. “I wanted to make sure that she was not nervous about the fact I didn’t know anything.

“We had all those conversations over a week because we wanted to park it and move on so we could try to do things that she wanted to do rather than keep going back to it. It was almost like let’s have it, do it and have everything in place.

“All those conversations are very, very hard. They have made us better people. It gives you a reality check on life. You discover what is important and what isn’t. You don’t tend to get strung up on things too much. All those horrible conversations and mental boxes that I have to give this card to Maisie on her wedding day and this card on that day. We shouldn’t be having these conversations. It is not fair. But you are and you have to get things in place because we didn’t know how long she had. Luckily things turned a corner and we managed to get back to where are now with a future ahead of us.”

Tiffany radically changed her diet, cutting out all red meat and diary, and began fasting from 7pm until noon the following day. She also started taking cannabis oil and using an ENS cosmodic machine treatment, which sends electronic pulses to attempt to stimulate the body’s cells.

“I was a believer in giving anything a go because we had nothing to lose,” Youngs said. “Luckily, we things turned our way. We don’t know exactly what it was. We don’t know whether it was the matter of her coming off her medication rebooted her immune system. Or the cannabis oil. Or her diet. There are so many things it could be, you can’t pinpoint any one thing. She is in a really good spot at the moment. She has started exercising again. She has had four years of chemotherapy and that does a lot to your muscles.”

All the time that his wife’s diagnosis was terminal, Youngs not only kept playing for Leicester, but was captain throughout. For all the club’s failings last season that resulted in them missing out on the the play-offs for the first time in 14 years, Youngs’ leadership was not one of them.

“One of the big things you learn around great captains is that culturally they set the benchmark and Tommy does that perfectly,” Mark Bakewell, the club’s forwards coach, said. “He gives every single ounce of energy, blood and sweat that he can for this club. Captains like that are golddust because you can build a club around them.”

It is only now that Youngs, the 28-cap England hooker, realises how much he was being weighed down. He candidly admits that he used rugby as an escape mechanism. “Playing rugby gave me something to focus on and probably helped me not to lose my mind,” Youngs said. “It was a way to get away. I think now I can give it more of my focus. Before it was more of a distraction. It is not that, it is a way of my life.”

With the start of the new Gallagher Premiership season just over a week away, everyone is happy. No club has lost, no player has been dropped. Optimism abounds, but there will be no wider smile than Youngs’s.

The 31-year-old cannot wait for the season to start. Extensive reviews have been undertaken and Bakewell has completely remodelled the lineout operation. The additions of David Denton and Will Spencer should provide the ballast that the pack was lacking last season. But as Youngs rightly says they will only discover the true extent of their improvements when they open their campaign with the most daunting of assignments, away to Exeter Chiefs.

More than anything, Youngs is just relishing a return to normality and of treating rugby as a passion rather than a distraction. “It has been nice to come in and train, and to go home and be normal,” Youngs said. “That’s the biggest thing I have learnt from it is to not take anything for granted. Even having a walk down the park, it is so nice to be able to do all that without worrying about how long we are going to be doing this for and all these other horrible questions I had in my head. Now I can just park them and just be me and just worry about rugby.

“I know everything is sweet with my family so I don’t have to rush home from training just in case Tiff is not feeling very well. It always felt like I was in a rush. It has been nice to crack on and get back to rugby, the thing I love.

“Everything feels different. I feel different as a person. I feel fitter. I’m probably not fitter, but I have less pressure on me. I look back and sometimes think I don’t know how we did it but we did and we’re out the other side.”


Room got a bit dusty reading this. Well played Mr & Mrs Youngs.


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What a waste of time that Cipriani hearing was. Did like Haskell's take on it all though...

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“It’s just the oldest case of trial by social media. Everyone does that now and that is the pain of social media with everyone who is ill-informed and knows nothing,” Haskell said. “People love to hate [Danny], but I know him as a good hard-working guy and it is time to move on. It was time to move on an hour after the court case – but a few ex-players and coaches threw him under the bus for easy headlines. Hopefully when I am finished playing I can get paid to come out with crap as that seems like the thing to do.


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but a few ex-players and coaches threw him under the bus...


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but a few ex-players and coaches threw him under the bus...


Oh shit



The Hask has been on this bandwaggon since Cipriani was reported. He seems to think his mate can do no wrong, regardless of his whole history.


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Oh shit



The Hask has been on this bandwaggon since Cipriani was reported. He seems to think his mate can do no wrong, regardless of his whole history.


whoosh


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Room got a bit dusty reading this. Well played Mr & Mrs Youngs.


Yep, heck of an uplifting story.


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