The bored is continuing to confuse inside and outside centre.I assume as an aside Jake was quite reasonably having some fun at the expense of Farrell's skillset, but whilst Greenwood had awareness and sublime handling he sure as hell didn't have any pace

We were hit and miss in that period, Foden and Cueto both linked a lot of play which helped, but even then there wasn't much confidence we'd attack well consistently. Hape did impress reading plays as a defender mind, it's a shame his knees had limited his mobility mind, and of course a shame his brain was getting a pasting, he wasn't far off being really highly rated

Since precisely when has an England 12 needed awareness, hands and pace?

Hughes and Ludlow cited

Hughes for punching Ludlow
Ludlow for stamping on Daly's head
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45787854

Nice of Wasps. Offering free tickets to any women's Rugby player to their double header vs Bath in Europe and vs Richmond Ladies afterwards.


https://www.wasps.co.uk/double-header-w ... kets-2018/

Seems a bit sexist tbh

Looks like Ludlow is on top of Hughes and pushes a forearm to his throat.


https://www.englandrugby.com/ertv/video ... UzMjA4NQS2

Ludlow appears to smash into Hughes whilst he's still on the ground (after the ball is away).

So Sale have signed Tom Bristow to bulk up the front row reserves. Is he any good or will he just be a rotation player? Definitely need one so it's nice to see that the coaches have spotted the blindingly obvious.

Just like junior prices are ageist

They should start giving kid girls even cheaper prices then. Aww bless you’re a wee rugby fan. AND aww bless you’re female, here’s a big discount.

Citing hearing for Hughes bizarre. Went on for 3 hours then postponed due to an urgent matter. No details of when it will continue. Likely to miss European games and a fair bit of AIs as it stands

Nathan Hughes, the Wasps and England No 8, was hopeful last night that he would not be suspended from playing for England in the autumn Test series next month.

After four hours of hearing evidence, an independent disciplinary panel failed to come to a conclusion last night over whether he should be suspended further for foul play in Wasps’ game against Gloucester and will reconvene in under a week.


Hughes could still be suspended for six weeks or more, which would discount him from playing for England in the autumn series. He had been cited for punching Lewis Ludlow, the Gloucester flanker.

In highly unusual circumstances, however, the three-man panel failed to come to a conclusion which, according to a statement released late last night, was because of “an issue that arose during the evening”. The RFU would not disclose the nature of this issue and has issued a directive that neither Hughes nor his club disclose any information.

Hughes will be suspended from playing until the conclusion of this case. It remains uncertain, therefore, whether he will be able to play for Wasps in their Heineken Champions Cup opener against Leinster tomorrow night. If the hearing is reconvened before the Leinster game, and Hughes is acquitted, then he will be able to play. Wasps are likely to push for the hearing to be rearranged as soon as possible

Wasps have been throwing loads of free/discounted tickets around to get their ground filled since their move. It seems to be working.

Who gives a toss about a special promotion.

Citing hearing for Hughes bizarre. Went on for 3 hours then postponed due to an urgent matter. No details of when it will continue. Likely to miss European games and a fair bit of AIs as it stands

How does it take three hours? The clip posted was a couple minutes, pretty clear. 15 mins would seem plenty.

Very much this. It's a waste of everyone's time and money. I don't always agree with JB on eggchasers, but he's been pillorying the citing panels and their judicial process quite a lot lately and I'm with him. Multi-hour hearings with lawyers involved is bullshit. Panel of three experts (ex-players and refs) shown the footage, max. an hour to make a decision.

He's obviously copped a harsh ban, told the panel to go fuck themselves and thrown the whole pack of biscuits at them

Close!!
Apparently he was Tweeting during the hearing
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nathan-hughes-may-miss-england-tests-after-what-a-joke-tweet-curtails-hearing-wtpmmmgv9
Stupid twat if correct!

The current system of having an entry level for each offence then reductions for good behaviour, increases for eating the custard creams etc is far too complicated.

Can’t they just use the old criteria, which was basically: ‘right, when’s the next England game and how much rest does Johnno need?’

What's the legal standing with regards to disciplinary hearings? Are they something akin to employment tribunals? I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the system is something of a rigmarole because of due process which involves putting lawyers in the room.

I’m now envisioning the lawyers being the English version of...




“Honoured citing commission, over the next two hours, I’ll present to you in depth evidence that this was merely a case of two youts having a harmless scuffle.”

Jamie Noon.

Jamie Noon.

Well, considering Guscott was primarily an outside centre, as was Manu (played inside once), and Tindall was predominantly an outside centre too.....

In answer, the best inside centre would be between Greenwood and Catt, with Farrell pushing both.

Clearly don't spend enough time here these days Jake

I don’t. Probably best for both you lot and I.