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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:58 pm 
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Where are you getting his later seasons stats from?

I posted this a couple of pages back. https://twitter.com/SARugbymag/status/1 ... 05/photo/1

Shows him at 77% over the last couple of years, below the long-term average of 80% ish.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:10 pm 
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Tom Willis, younger brother of Jack, starts at 8 for Wasps tomorrow

He's meant to be special from what I hear


Looked very handy for the U20s and in the Anglo-Welsh last year.

Any news on when Jack is due back?

Hopefully Hill goes well tomorrow, as, from what I’ve seen of him (a couple of appearance off the bench for Wuss), he is a lineout option and a good carrier - attributes to compliment the ground work and tackling of Curry/Underhill/Willis on the other flank.



I've not heard anything more specific than towards the end of the season. The estimate from when he got injured was 9 months.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:13 pm 
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Boris wrote:
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Where are you getting his later seasons stats from?

I posted this a couple of pages back. https://twitter.com/SARugbymag/status/1 ... 05/photo/1

Shows him at 77% over the last couple of years, below the long-term average of 80% ish.


Simon Gleave did an analysis since the last world cup, has Farrell at 74/75%

He was 63% for the 6N.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:13 pm 
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Lump your money on Sale tomorrow

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:18 pm 
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Brown resigned from RFU!!!!
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Steve Brown has resigned as chief executive of the Rugby Football Union, after a little over a year in the role.

Brown succeeded Ian Ritchie in September 2017, but has announced he will leave the role at the end of the year.

Director of professional rugby Nigel Melville will be interim CEO until a replacement for Brown is appointed.

Brown previously served as the RFU's chief financial officer and England Rugby's managing director.

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The news comes in the wake of 64 redundancies being made at Twickenham and amid fierce criticism from former chief executive Francis Baron over what he claims is financial mismanagement by the union.

Short and not very sweet!
The finances are in a pretty poor way and he was CFO for 6+ years


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:23 pm 
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So basically we're saying that Farrell's a pretty shit kicker? Great.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:54 pm 
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More good not great and the media referring to his kicking haven't paid any attention for the last few years.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:27 pm 
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Brown resigned from RFU!!!!


Reported for rancid Toga call out.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:32 pm 
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More good not great and the media referring to his kicking haven't paid any attention for the last few years.


“If there was one kick to save your life...”

Every commentator.


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Joe ford at 10. Congratulations on the win glos.


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How Barrett and Pollard's kicking stats compare to the best in the Northern Hemisphere

Kicking for goal is still seen as Barrett’s weakest link, and the statistics appear to bear this out, adding grist to the mill for those wanting to denigrate the All Black playmaker’s all-round game.

The statistics track the kicking success rate of the ‘Top Tier’ international kickers with more than 40 attempts at goal since the start of the Rugby Championship in 2016.

The stats confirm that Barrett and Pollard lag significantly behind the best kickers in the Northern Hemisphere. Interestingly Pollard’s rival for the Springbok Number 10 jersey – Elton Jantjies – more than hold his own with the Northern Hemisphere.

Top of the pile is Leigh Halfpenny with a 84 percent kicking success rate, this despite his propensity to attempt long distance kicks.

In second place is Scotland’s Greig Laidlaw, who managed an impressive 83 percent. Boasting a very healthy 82 percent is Elton Jantjies in third place.

In fourth is Ireland’s Jonny Sexton with 80 percent, while in joint fifth is Scottish (and now Racing 92) magician Finn Russell and the Argentinian Nicolás Sánchez, both with a very solid 78 percent accuracy off the tee.

In 7th is England’s Owen Farrell (77 percent) and in 8th is Australia’s Bernard Foley (74 percent).

Languishing in 9th is Barrett with just 72 percent, while Pollard fares even worse with 68 percent

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/how-barr ... emisphere/


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:10 am 
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SaintK wrote:
Brown resigned from RFU!!!!
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Steve Brown has resigned as chief executive of the Rugby Football Union, after a little over a year in the role.

Brown succeeded Ian Ritchie in September 2017, but has announced he will leave the role at the end of the year.

Director of professional rugby Nigel Melville will be interim CEO until a replacement for Brown is appointed.

Brown previously served as the RFU's chief financial officer and England Rugby's managing director.

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The news comes in the wake of 64 redundancies being made at Twickenham and amid fierce criticism from former chief executive Francis Baron over what he claims is financial mismanagement by the union.

Short and not very sweet!
The finances are in a pretty poor way and he was CFO for 6+ years


I believe Jake reported, and I've heard similar, that under his watch they didn't even account for their being no AIs in the 2015 world cup year, that is probably a miss calculation of £30-$40 million because they loaded a lot of the London 2012 staff who had no idea about rugby and have ruined a ton of it.

Basically he managed to screw-up the unscrew-up-able, the RFU finances. The sort of dumb shite management that comes when you have an asset which will always pretty much bring in a ton of cash like Twickenham no matter how badly you run things so you think you are a an invincible genius. All it needs is a miscalculation and a bad event (the overspend on the stand) to get exposed.

There are a ton of really terrible CEOs in UK sport, the recently left head of athletics was another one. He took credit for the 2002 Commonwealth Games despite the fact a big sporting event in the Uk is a guaranteed win. he also did a Ron Andrew and got his job title separated from the actually responsibility for performance. He got rid of Aviva who huge supported UK athletics because he believed after London 2012 he could bring in multiple sponsors. He didn't and ended up begging Sainbury's who was the paralympic sponsor. Except Sainbury's dropped UK athletics like a stone when the doping relevations of Farah's coach came out leaving them again with no sponsor 2 years later.

Still, I hope this means the RFU get somebody who knows rugby in.


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Jeez, Ollie Thorley has some serious gas - http://sport.bt.com/morgan-and-thorley- ... 4311063294


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:16 am 
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Jeez, Ollie Thorley has some serious gas - http://sport.bt.com/morgan-and-thorley- ... 4311063294


He’s exceptionally strong too, in fact his one big downside at the moment is he’s as likely to try and run through you as round you.


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I like Thorley. As Forrester said he lacks a bit of subtlety at times, but he has good pace and good instincts. Both of his tries last night were very good.


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Interesting looking England back line for this afternoon. Its very pacy, could do some damage as long as Nowell remembers he's a centre and passes. Is Lozowski a better centre than Farrell I wonder? Certainly a better runner as far as I can see.


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Interesting looking England back line for this afternoon. Its very pacy, could do some damage as long as Nowell remembers he's a centre and passes. Is Lozowski a better centre than Farrell I wonder? Certainly a better runner as far as I can see.

Well he is an actual centre, which makes him a distinct step up from Faz in my book.

Nowell isn’t (yet) but unlike Faz at 12, he does have all of the attributes of a good 13. I think his development in that position could be hugely exciting - he could be a BOD without quite the tackling ferocity.


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Is the Ireland game on any U.K. channels?


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Lump your money on Sale tomorrow



Sale already have some rectal bleeding. By the end of this match their anus will look as ragged and tattered as Pete Doherty on Christmas morning.


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Lump your money on Sale tomorrow



Sale already have some rectal bleeding. By the end of this match their anus will look as ragged and tattered as Pete Doherty on Christmas morning.

Sarries have managed to score twice with 14 men :lol:


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Is the Ireland game on any U.K. channels?

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Is the Ireland game on any U.K. channels?

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Ah result! Thought it was just rte :thumbup:


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Nowell isn’t (yet) but unlike Faz at 12, he does have all of the attributes of a good 13. I think his development in that position could be hugely exciting - he could be a BOD without quite the tackling ferocity.


Nowell primarily played 12 as a schoolboy and was only really moved out to the back three because he stayed 90kg while professional centres these days, even at U20 level, are +100kg by default

Funny to see his career come back round to him being played in the centres again


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Wasps are managing to look pretty abject against Saints.

Simpson needs to be put down, he offers absolutely no direction at 9, he regularly wastes time at the back of the ruck before eventually picking the ball up and changing his mind about which way he;s going to take the play.

As I type we've just conceded a try from the kick off following the concession of a penalty. 16 - 0 Saints with a minute before thte half is up and that actually feels like a bit of a result for Wasps.


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Nowell needs to play centre, good player but not enough gas for wing.


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Sale have really come back into this second half. All one way traffic.


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Looks like I was a bit hasty in my predictions of backdoor gloom for Sale.


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Naiyaravoro looks like an adult playing against children. Rob Miller just had the unenviable job of trying to tackle him after a 10m run up with loads of space and unsurprisingly it's resulted in the BP try for Saints. 28 - 10 on 56 minutes. Simpson off injured, so Wasps might start to look better?


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Look I am a sarries fan but I do not know how he called that a tackle when the sarries lineout maul was brought down just short of the line


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Wasps have looked much more fluid with Hampson on instead of Simpson and Searle looks more assured than Sopoaga.


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That was probably the best Saints have played all season. So many more youngsters are getting a go than they did under Mallinder, the club had stagnated to the point of dying.


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Reckon England will go Ford-Farrell next weekend.


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let's focus on the negatives, seeing as that was a dire game to sit through

Care was absolutely horrific today - it speaks volumes that Wigglesworth looked good off the bench as his replacement

Lozowski looked like a bloke short on gametime, Farrell was a big upgrade at 12

the back row was cleaned out at the breakdown today, it was a carbon-copy repeat of the Scotland game this year

Ford still looks a classy player in attack but perhaps one of the most low-energy 10s in test rugby, it really took Farrell coming on at half-time to spark the team into life

Mercer had the one shot today to put himself in the WC frame and was pretty anonymous, think he's out of the running now


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let's focus on the negatives, seeing as that was a dire game to sit through

Care was absolutely horrific today - it speaks volumes that Wigglesworth looked good off the bench as his replacement

Lozowski looked like a bloke short on gametime, Farrell was a big upgrade at 12

the back row was cleaned out at the breakdown today, it was a carbon-copy repeat of the Scotland game this year

Ford still looks a classy player in attack but perhaps one of the most low-energy 10s in test rugby, it really took Farrell coming on at half-time to spark the team into life

Mercer had the one shot today to put himself in the WC frame and was pretty anonymous, think he's out of the running now



The officiating at the breakdown was just ad laughable as against Scotland.


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Reckon England will go Ford-Farrell next weekend.


Yeah-


Danny Care was awful, I expect the papers to give him- 8/10 scored a try.


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Well , all you Farrell haters, what do you say to that?


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Reckon England will go Ford-Farrell next weekend.


Yeah-


Danny Care was awful, I expect the papers to give him- 8/10 scored a try.



Slade has to go if we’re back to Ford/Faz.


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Well , all you Farrell haters, what do you say to that?


He's still not an international 10, but he might be our best option at 12.


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Our work in the air is pathetic.


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