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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:56 am 
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Ford was a complete fanny today and it seemed to rub off on the rest of the side for the entirety of the first half. I've seen him really getting stuck in domestically but he's a complete mincer in an England shirt when the going gets tough.

Folk on here really seem to rate the 10 defensive effort above all else. (I'll let the offensive hate-crime language of your post pass to judgement of others - presumably you will be reported). Have you ever played a game when the 10 set the tone? Shameful reflection on the pack if they followed his lead.


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Poor basic skills on display today coupled with low energy and desire
Kicking possession away too often
Ford incapable of setting the tone and controlling the game.
Williams utter dross. Just looked like a fat lad.
Ewels bang average. Still don’t get it. Not first choice at Bath.
Lawes should be in the second row.
Daly is not a full back. Come back Mike Brown all is forgiven
Loz blew his chance today.
Slade and Nowell not good enough, too lightweight, tackles not watertight.
I don’t recall us, particularly Ashton, contesting the aerial ball once. Totally unacceptable.
What is the point of the box kick if we neither contest nor shovel the catcher into touch ?

Good again from Itoje
Joe Coka very good tist day-boo, looks the real deal
Lawes decent in the wrong position
Strange ref, over pedantic with not rolling away, missed lots of other stuff
Do we have a backs coach ?

Hoping Farrell back to 10 Saturday now we got the gifting of Fords 50th cap out the way


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The Good:

-Ford creates tries and opportunities. Kicks well as well.
-Lawes and Itoje should be the 2nd row. Both physical, good in lineouts, good carries, both has size and height, both look for work, Lawes great in tackle, Itoje good on the floor. For some reason Eddie has rarely ever let this happen.
-Some of Englands back row is putting up their hands now.
-Wigglesworth actually looked like an impact 9.
-Nowell is a winger, not a 13.
-Joe Coka looks the real deal.
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The bad:

-No chase to the kicks.
-Midfield still not sorted
-Still slow for England to work out opportunities
-Loz sadly lost his place with that shite tackle for the Japanese 12 to score.
-Daly not a 15 FFS! Lacks a jump catch and reading of the ball and that last ditch tackle style.


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eldanielfire wrote:
The Good:

-Ford creates tries and opportunities. Kicks well as well.
-Lawes and Itoje should be the 2nd row. Both physical, good in lineouts, good carries, both has size and height, both look for work, Lawes great in tackle, Itoje good on the floor. For some reason Eddie has rarely ever let this happen.
-Some of Englands back row is putting up their hands now.
-Wigglesworth actually looked like an impact 9.
-Nowell is a winger, not a 13.
-Joe Coka looks the real deal.
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The bad:

-No chase to the kicks.
-Midfield still not sorted
-Still slow for England to work out opportunities
-Loz sadly lost his place with that shite tackle for the Japanese 12 to score.
-Daly not a 15 FFS! Lacks a jump catch and reading of the ball and that last ditch tackle style.


You forgot Slade's inability to make even half of the tackles he should


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It was a very scratchy side, many should have done better. And yeah- Slade seems to get a pass on his defence? Joseph must be nailed on if he returns at 13.


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Gospel wrote:
Ford was a complete fanny today and it seemed to rub off on the rest of the side for the entirety of the first half. I've seen him really getting stuck in domestically but he's a complete mincer in an England shirt when the going gets tough.

Folk on here really seem to rate the 10 defensive effort above all else. (I'll let the offensive hate-crime language of your post pass to judgement of others - presumably you will be reported). Have you ever played a game when the 10 set the tone? Shameful reflection on the pack if they followed his lead.

I don't expect Ford to smash people but yesterday he was both captain and pivot and he offered zero leadership and zero control and direction. It was like night and day with Farrell on the pitch. Ford does look good going forward when he has time and space to make the pass - but then who doesn't.


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Ford creates tries and opportunities. Kicks well as well.

In the first half Daly seemed to be England's only creative outlet even though he was fluffing his lines from fullback.


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Care was mega shite inside ford though, his delivery was a disgrace compared to the Japanese 9. I’m sure he’d look better between Young’s and Te’o.


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Gospel wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Ford creates tries and opportunities. Kicks well as well.

In the first half Daly seemed to be England's only creative outlet even though he was fluffing his lines from fullback.


He’s still playing well, just got no instinct at all from 15. None.


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RugbyPass reckons this might be England's best ever U20 batch - people here agree? guys like Joel Kpoku, Marcus Smith, Ted Hill (maybe), Tom Willis and Ollie Lawrence - plenty of potential test players in the mix

ultimately from an England POV though, we really need one of the 9s or 15s to be bolters more than any other position

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Loosehead Prop – Olly Adkins* (Gloucester) and Kai Owen* (Worcester Warriors), with James Kenny (Exeter Chiefs) and Bevan Rodd (Sale Sharks) covering the U20 Six Nations


Toby Trinder and Alex Seville have both moved on from the U20s, so it’s a completely new group for England this season. In Adkins and Owen, forwards coach Mark Hopley would get to work with two players who have already shouldered the responsibility of senior rugby this season. They have both looked comfortable making that step up, with loosehead stocks at Gloucester and Worcester Warriors depleted by injury, providing them with valuable opportunities.

In terms of the cover, should both players still be required by their clubs during the U20 Six Nations, Kenny is a second-year player at this level, something which is particularly valuable in the front row, and Rodd is the dynamic player in the loose that England have been attempting to cultivate in their front rowers over recent years.

Honourable Mentions – Ben Carlile (Yorkshire Carnegie), Keston Lines (Leicester Tigers), George Head (Harlequins)

Tighthead Prop – Joe Heyes* (Leicester Tigers) and Marcus Street (Exeter Chiefs), with Alfie Petch (Exeter Chiefs) covering the U20 Six Nations

Heyes should return for a second season at this level, whilst Street would be embarking on his third campaign with the side, despite injury denying him a shot at the U20 Championship last season. Given the experience England have at tighthead, not to mention the impact Heyes has begun to make at senior level, it should be considered a position of strength this season.

Petch was a strong scrummager at U18 level, where he frequently and aggressively went after opposition looseheads. The physical demands to do that take a significant leap at U20 level, but Exeter players don’t usually want for a physical edge, especially once they have signed professional terms and commit to rugby.

Honourable Mentions – Jack Bartlett (Gloucester), Simone Elrick (Bath), Kieran Sassone (Harlequins)

Hooker – Will Capon (Bristol Bears), Samson Ma’asi (Northampton Saints) and Alfie Barbeary** (Wasps)

A really exciting group of hookers, who all offer something slightly different. Capon would probably be favourite to start, with a refined all-round game that should keep England sharp at the set-piece, but also dangerous in the loose. Ma’asi is no stranger to competing with Capon, with the two having gone head-to-head at U18 level for England, whilst Barbeary is the coming force in English rugby, having lit up U18 rugby as an U17 last season and now beginning to earn senior playing time with Wasps in the Premiership Cup.

Honourable Mentions – Jack Musk (Harlequins), Sam Elrick (Bath), Sam Riley** (Harlequins)

Lock – Joel Kpoku* (Saracens), Josh Basham (unattached) and James Scott (Worcester Warriors), with Alex Coles (Northampton Saints) covering the U20 Six Nations

Kpoku would return from last season’s side and would likely be one of the very first names on the teamsheet. He was England’s most consistent and effective player in France this summer and he has shown that he can replicate that at senior level. Josh Basham left London Irish in the summer to study in the north-east and could have a new club by February, and both he and Scott would bring experience to the group, returning for second seasons.

With Saracens likely to lose Maro Itoje, George Kruis and possibly Nick Isiekwe to England for the senior Six Nations, there’s a good chance Kpoku will be retained, opening the door for Coles. There’s no reason why, with a good U20 Six Nations under his belt, Coles can’t push for a spot in the U20 Championship squad, after injury all but wiped out his 2017/18 season. In fact, there’s a good chance he would be favoured to Basham, should the former London Irish man not be affiliated with a club.

Honourable Mentions – Cameron Jordan (Leicester Tigers), Hugh Tizard (Harlequins), Rouban Birch (Sale Sharks)

Flanker – Ted Hill* (Worcester Warriors), Aaron Hinkley (Gloucester), Andy Christie (Saracens) and Richard Capstick (Exeter Chiefs), with Cameron Terry (Gloucester) covering the U20 Six Nations

Both Hill and Hinkley bring continuity from last season, as well as well-defined roles as a power carrier and a jackal respectively. Hill also brings versatility, with his ability to cover the second row, and Hinkley’s strength and balance over the ball at the contact area looks to have really improved in his second year as a professional. Christie wasn’t involved last year but, again, looks to have improved as a player in his second year of professional rugby and offers real versatility, capable of performing to a high standard across the entire back row.

Capstick rounds out the core group of four flankers and, like Hill, also covers lock, whilst Terry’s impressive performances in the Premiership Cup could be enough to see him sneak in ahead of a very crowded field of eligible flankers, especially with his academy manager Richard Whiffin involved as attack coach this season.

Honourable Mentions – Henri Lavin (Leicester Tigers), Sam Dugdale (Sale Sharks), James Dun (Bristol Bears), Ben Donnell (London Irish)

Number Eight – Tom Willis (Wasps) and Rus Tuima (Exeter Chiefs)

This has the potential to be a very dynamic duo. Willis was a real handful at U18 level and has had a taste of senior rugby over the last 12 months, but probably didn’t quite make the impact at U20 level that he would have liked last season. Combining his power with that of Tuima, who you can hear more from here, would give England a regular source of front-foot ball and two carriers who are not only able to keep phases alive, but who actively seek to whenever possible.

Honourable Mentions – Izaiha Moore-Aiono (London Irish), Rob Farrar (Newcastle Falcons), JJ Tonks (unattached)

Scrum-half – Sam Maunder (Exeter Chiefs) and Cameron Nordli-Kelemeti (Newcastle Falcons)

Another Maunder and, just like his older brother Jack, Sam is already featuring in Exeter’s senior side as an 18-year-old. As a starter, with the effervescent talents of Nordli-Kelemeti coming off the bench, this has the potential to be England’s most promising half-back one-two punch at U20 level over the last 10 years. Both are raw and inexperienced at this level, so don’t expect instant miracles, but the long-term potential is definitely there.

Honourable Mentions – Ewan Fenley (Gloucester), Gus Warr (Sale Sharks) and Conor Tupai (Northampton Saints)

Fly-half – Marcus Smith* (Harlequins) and Tom Hardwick (Leicester Tigers), with Kieran Wilkinson (Sale Sharks) covering the U20 Six Nations

It’s a no-brainer to start with Smith, who has showcased his talents repeatedly at this level and with the Harlequins senior side. Hardwick would return for a second season, not only competing at fly-half, but also covering inside centre.

There’s not a chance that Smith is released to England during the U20 Six Nations, so Wilkinson is a more than able replacement in February and March, with the potential to push for a spot at the U20 Championship, especially if Hardwick prospers at 12.

Honourable Mentions – Manu Vunipola (Saracens), Tom Curtis** (Sale Sharks), George Barton** (Gloucester)

Centre – Ollie Lawrence* (Worcester Warriors), Cameron Redpath* (Sale Sharks), Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints) and Harry Barlow (Harlequins), with Charlie Powell (Bristol Bears) and Oli Morris (Saracens) covering the U20 Six Nations

Just like on the flanks, the centres are incredibly congested positions this season.

The trio of Lawrence, Redpath and Dingwall are certainties to return from last season’s squad if fit and available, but the competition for the fourth spot is fierce. We have ultimately plumped for Barlow due to his versatility to also cover the wings and full-back, with an ability to play multiple positions often the key influencer in selections for squads like this, where you are limited to taking a relatively small number of players for quite a heavy workload of rugby.

If England lose just Lawrence during the U20 Six Nations, they will count themselves lucky, although it’s feasible that Redpath will have been back from his ACL injury for long enough to have forced himself into the first team equation at Sale. Should those two be unavailable, Bristol’s Powell and Saracens’ Morris are good alternatives.

Honourable Mentions – Conor Doherty (Sale Sharks), Luke James (Sale Sharks), Jacob Reeves (Gloucester)

Wing – Tom Seabrook (Gloucester), Ollie Sleightholme (Northampton Saints) and Morgan Passman (Newcastle Falcons)

With Gabriel Ibitoye, Ben Loader, Ali Crossdale and Jordan Olowofela all now too old for the U20s, it’s all change on the wing for England.

Seabrook was on the cusp of the squad last year and should take one of the spots, especially with his ability to play across the midfield, too. Sleightholme has impressed everyone with his physical abilities since turning professional and looks bigger and quicker than he did in the U18 ranks, and both he and Seabrook will be well known by Hopley and Whiffin respectively.

The final spot is a hard call and could go to any one of a number of players, but we’ve gone for Passman, whose physical presence is unique among the options. He is an intriguing prospect moving forward.

Honourable Mentions – Cadan Murley (Harlequins), Ollie Hassell-Collins (London Irish) and Jacob Morris (Gloucester)

Full-back – Tom de Glanville (Bath) and Will Simonds (Wasps)

It may be that de Glanville is looked at as a 10 or a 12 instead, but his talent is such that he is going to find his way into the team, one way or another. At full-back, he offers England the dual-playmaker roles at 10 and 15 that they have so coveted at this level in recent years. Simonds, too, offers flexibility and has been used in the centres by Wasps this season, as well as being comfortable on the wing. Between de Glanville’s ability to split the back line and his kicking game and Simond’s counter-attacking ability, England would have a complementary pairing at the back.

Honourable Mentions – Reece Dunn (Gloucester), Josh Hodge (Newcastle Falcons), Louis Lynagh** (Harlequins)


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I was thinking about the pack in the first half and the lack of physicality struck me. One statutory Itoje gallop aside, no one broke a tackle, nor were there any consistent momentum stopping tackles, it was very passive.

And although he came into things late in the game, can we please stop pretending Lawes is a blindside.


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And although he came into things late in the game, can we please stop pretending Lawes is a blindside.


You're preaching to the choir on that one...


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Yesterday - before Farrell : losing 10-15 - after Farrell : won 25-0.


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Poor basic skills on display today coupled with low energy and desire
Kicking possession away too often
Ford incapable of setting the tone and controlling the game.
Williams utter dross. Just looked like a fat lad.
Ewels bang average. Still don’t get it. Not first choice at Bath.
Lawes should be in the second row.
Daly is not a full back. Come back Mike Brown all is forgiven
Loz blew his chance today.
Slade and Nowell not good enough, too lightweight, tackles not watertight.
I don’t recall us, particularly Ashton, contesting the aerial ball once. Totally unacceptable.
What is the point of the box kick if we neither contest nor shovel the catcher into touch ?

Good again from Itoje
Joe Coka very good tist day-boo, looks the real deal
Lawes decent in the wrong position
Strange ref, over pedantic with not rolling away, missed lots of other stuff
Do we have a backs coach ?

Hoping Farrell back to 10 Saturday now we got the gifting of Fords 50th cap out the way


I agree with a good chunk of this. However, I totally disagree on Ewels and Ford.

Ewels was the only one of our forwards at the races in the first half and I thought he showed a good level of intensity all game.

How was Ford supposed to ‘set the tone’ or ‘control the game’ when we didn’t have the ball? When we actually had some of the ball he chose the right options, created Wilson’s try and kicked all but one of his shots at goal. I’m happy for Farrell to come back in to the side but as a 12 not in place of Ford.

I’ve run out of patience with Slade. His defence really is woeful in an England shirt and I think the one break he made right at the end of the game is about the only thing he’s done ball-in-hand in the last 6 tests.


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For me, Ford and Farrell are the nailed on 10 and 12 now, much as I'd like to see a proper ball handling 12. Farrell brings a lot in terms of attitude and firing up the defence. Same for Hartley, seems to lack a lot, but we look a bit aimless without him starting.


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Yesterday - before Farrell : losing 10-15 - after Farrell : won 25-0.


Loz was really bad then.


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Yesterday - before Farrell : losing 10-15 - after Farrell : won 25-0.


Yes, because a team has never struggled early on against a dogged but weak opponent. Nothing to do with Japan not being able to keep up with the pace and England settling down and playing a proper game, all to do with dreamy Owen. Are you one of the female 5 live commentators?


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Jamie George got on my nerves watching the extended highlights.

Care was rubbish, he just isn't a starter.

Didn't see a lot from Mercer.

Fiji Joe on the other hand looked like a natural born test player.

Inclined to agree that Daly is a good player who doesn't work at 15, though there were some good moments from him so perhaps worth trying a little longer.

Also thought Loz didn't really work at 12, and deserves more attention than Ford in terms of who bears responsibility for the poor first half showing.

Long term Ford and Faz with someone outside who provides a bit more heft (Manu or Te'o for instance) is my preferred midfield.

Slade's defence is absolute pants.

Sinckler's improved quite a bit over the course of this series, which is pleasing.

Not sure how we'll go against Australia tbh


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Seriously, can we please just stop putting players in positions they don't play week-in, week-out?

Nowell is not a 13, Lawes is not a 6, Wison is not an 8, Robshaw is not a 7, Brown is not an 11, Daly is not a 15, Shields is not a 5.


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terryfinch wrote:
Yesterday - before Farrell : losing 10-15 - after Farrell : won 25-0.

Proof of correlation / causation? I say yes.

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Seriously, can we please just stop putting players in positions they don't play week-in, week-out?

Nowell is not a 13, Lawes is not a 6, Wison is not an 8, Robshaw is not a 7, Brown is not an 11, Daly is not a 15, Shields is not a 5.


Or a 6, 7, or 8 for that matter.


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terryfinch wrote:
Yesterday - before Farrell : losing 10-15 - after Farrell : won 25-0.

Proof of correlation / causation? I say yes.

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I've no doubt that England's dire first half showing yesterday in the forwards will be partly put down to the lack of Hartley and partly the lack of Shieldsy maate


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Seriously, can we please just stop putting players in positions they don't play week-in, week-out?

Nowell is not a 13, Lawes is not a 6, Wison is not an 8, Robshaw is not a 7, Brown is not an 11, Daly is not a 15, Shields is not a 5.


Yes, no more locks at blindside, no more wingers in the centre, and no more George at hooker.


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Mercer - Nahhh, Wilson..... still Nahh and I'm no Gloucester fan but:
Captain Morgan is back to his swashbuckling best. It will be criminal if he's not in the 23 Vs the crims.
Eddie if you are reading this PLEASE give the poor Mother***ker a break.


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terryfinch wrote:
Yesterday - before Farrell : losing 10-15 - after Farrell : won 25-0.


You really need to stop listening to Clive Woodward.

There were other players like Underhill and Sinckler who played the majority of the second half too.


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Yesterday - before Farrell : losing 10-15 - after Farrell : won 25-0.


You really need to stop listening to Clive Woodward.

There were other players like Underhill and Sinckler who played the majority of the second half too.


I suspect Underhill had quite an impact because the breakdown was much better in the second half


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terryfinch wrote:
Yesterday - before Farrell : losing 10-15 - after Farrell : won 25-0.


You really need to stop listening to Clive Woodward.

There were other players like Underhill and Sinckler who played the majority of the second half too.


Both had a huge impact- Williams played like a bowl of jelly.


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How was Ford supposed to ‘set the tone’ or ‘control the game’ when we didn’t have the ball?

Is it too much to expect the captain to get stuck into his troops when they're mincing around the pitch missing tackles for the lols? Players like Farrell, Sexton and BIggar are far more assertive. Ford's game always seems to come with caveats.


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Anyone else watching Briz v Chiefs? Good game so far, currently 26-19 with Briz playing some nice stuff

Andy Uren at 9 looks a handy player for Briz


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Anyone else watching Briz v Chiefs? Good game so far, currently 26-19 with Briz playing some nice stuff

Andy Uren at 9 looks a handy player for Briz


Yep, it's a fun game. Bris dn't have enough points on the board from the first half dominance, though, and Chiefs look a lot better this half. Fancy them to sneak it.


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Yeah, Briz looking good value here


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RodneyRegis wrote:
Seriously, can we please just stop putting players in positions they don't play week-in, week-out?

Nowell is not a 13, Lawes is not a 6, Wison is not an 8, Robshaw is not a 7, Brown is not an 11, Daly is not a 15, Shields is not a 5.


Wilson and Robshaw regularly play 8 and 7 respectively for their clubs. Though both are probably at their best on the blindside, it's not as strange as playing Daly at 15. Especially when also playing a winger at 13.


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Yeah, Briz looking good value here


Exeter scrape home with a penalty try at the death, unlucky Bristol 29-31


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Chiefs look a lot better this half. Fancy them to sneak it.


8)

Tbf Bristol were lucky not to be conceding at the lineout for taking the jumper early on the last two occassions.


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Dunnikin Diver wrote:
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Ford was a complete fanny today and it seemed to rub off on the rest of the side for the entirety of the first half. I've seen him really getting stuck in domestically but he's a complete mincer in an England shirt when the going gets tough.

Folk on here really seem to rate the 10 defensive effort above all else. (I'll let the offensive hate-crime language of your post pass to judgement of others - presumably you will be reported). Have you ever played a game when the 10 set the tone? Shameful reflection on the pack if they followed his lead.


You twat.


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Petros wrote:
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Yeah, Briz looking good value here


Exeter scrape home with a penalty try at the death, unlucky Bristol 29-31


Thanks to a bent bit of reffing.


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fatcat wrote:
Petros wrote:
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Yeah, Briz looking good value here


Exeter scrape home with a penalty try at the death, unlucky Bristol 29-31


Thanks to a bent bit of reffing.

Reported for offensive hate-crimes.


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RodneyRegis wrote:
fatcat wrote:
Petros wrote:
Saint wrote:
Yeah, Briz looking good value here


Exeter scrape home with a penalty try at the death, unlucky Bristol 29-31


Thanks to a bent bit of reffing.

Reported for offensive hate-crimes.


How dare you deny me my humanity. :shock:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:11 pm 
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Gospel wrote:
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How was Ford supposed to ‘set the tone’ or ‘control the game’ when we didn’t have the ball?

Is it too much to expect the captain to get stuck into his troops when they're mincing around the pitch missing tackles for the lols? Players like Farrell, Sexton and BIggar are far more assertive. Ford's game always seems to come with caveats.



Exactly. Ford is not an alpha male and, in test rugby, that is what you need to run your game.


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