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Friday 28 February - 19:15 AET | 10:15 SAST | 8:15 GMT/UTC

Bankwest Stadium - Sydney
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Capacity: 30,000

Weather:

Temp: 23°C
Rain: 8% increasing to 21% at 21:00
Humidity: 67%
Wind 18 kmh W

Betting odds:
Waratahs 1.83
Lions 2.3
Handicap: Waratahs -1

Officials:
Referee: Angus Gardner
AR1: Jordan Way
AR2: James Quinn
TMO: Ian Smith

Waratahs:
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Log position: 15
Aus Conference: 5
Wins: 0 from 3
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Waratahs: 15 Kurtley Beale, 14 Mark Nawaqanitawase, 13 Alex Newsome, 12 Karmichael Hunt, 11 Jack Maddocks, 10 Will Harrison, 9 Jake Gordon, 8 Jack Dempsey, 7 Michael Hooper, 6 Lachlan Swinton, 5 Rob Simmons (captain), 4 Tom Staniforth, 3 Harry Johnson-Holmes, 2 Robbie Abel, 1 Angus Bell.
Replacements: 16 Damien Fitzpatrick, 17 Tom Robertson, 18 Tetera Faulkner, 19 Ryan McCauley, 20 Jed Holloway, 21 Mitch Short , 22 Lalakai Foketi, 23 James Ramm.

Lions:
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Log position: 10
SA Conference: 4
Wins: 1 from 3
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Lions: 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Tyrone Green, 13 Manuel Rass, 12 Dan Kriel, 11 Jamba Ulengo, 10 Elton Jantjies (captain), 9 Andre Warner, 8 Len Massyn, 7 Vincent Tshituka, 6 Marnus Schoeman, 5 Marvin Orie, 4 Ruben Schoeman, 3 Carlu Sadie, 2 Jan-Henning Campher, 1 Dylan Smith
Substitutes: 16 Pieter Jansen, 17 Sti Sithole, 18 Frans van Wyk, 19 Willem Alberts, 20 Wilhelm van der Sluys, 21 Hacjivah Dayimani, 22 Morne van den Berg, 23 Wandisile Simelane

History:
Played: 12
Waratahs: 7
Lions: 5

In Australia:
Played: 6
Waratahs: 5
Lions: 1

Recent games:
Sat, 11 May 2019: Waratahs v Lions 28-29 - Johannesburg
Sat, 28 Jul 2018: Waratahs v Lions 26-44 - Johannesburg
Fri, 20 Apr 2018: Waratahs v Lions 0-29 - Sydney
Sat, 04 Mar 2017: Waratahs v Lions 36-55 - Johannesburg
Sat, 30 May 2015: Waratahs v Lions 22-27 - Johannesburg


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Has a Waratahs fan started a match thread this year?

The Lions have a great opportunity to secure an all-important away win this week.


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Ali's Choice wrote:
Has a Waratahs fan started a match thread this year?

The Lions have a great opportunity to secure an all-important away win this week.

The Lions probably couldn't have asked for an "easier" tour to settle their season - Tahs, Rebs, Blues and Clan - but they need to get their setpieces working


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:50 am 
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Jensrsa wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
Has a Waratahs fan started a match thread this year?

The Lions have a great opportunity to secure an all-important away win this week.

The Lions probably couldn't have asked for an "easier" tour to settle their season - Tahs, Rebs, Blues and Clan - but they need to get their setpieces working


Yup, the weakest two NZ teams and the weakest two Aussie teams (excluding the SW's who are in the Aussie conference). Dream tour, how come the Lions always get the lucky draws. Remember that year they didn't play a single NZ team in the round robin?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:02 am 
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Ali's Choice wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
Has a Waratahs fan started a match thread this year?

The Lions have a great opportunity to secure an all-important away win this week.

The Lions probably couldn't have asked for an "easier" tour to settle their season - Tahs, Rebs, Blues and Clan - but they need to get their setpieces working


Yup, the weakest two NZ teams and the weakest two Aussie teams (excluding the SW's who are in the Aussie conference). Dream tour, how come the Lions always get the lucky draws. Remember that year they didn't play a single NZ team in the round robin?

:lol: :lol:


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Tahs season will be over and will set their worstest record ever ever if they lose this. Fans, those left, will just not actually attend for the rest of the season.


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Coach Rob Penney said last week he would seek feedback from the players as to whether they were comfortable with the style of play implemented by coaching staff.

By the time the Lions game comes around, there may be minor tweaks. Ball security continues to pop up as something needing urgent attention.

“A huge solution would be if we could hold the ball a couple of phases,” Simmons said. “A lot of our opportunities would come if we could hold that ball a bit longer. We don’t want to hold people back from expressing themselves out there but [it is about] offloading at the right times and making those decisions at the right time.”

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/how-simmons-plans-to-turn-around-waratahs-horror-start-to-season-20200221-p54310.html
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In squad news, Mack Mason will play in a NSW A side against a Brumbies A side on Friday, signalling his return from a groin injury. Test forward Ned Hanigan should also be available for the side's next game against the Lions and Bankwest Stadium.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/i-want-them-to-be-honest-soul-searching-begins-for-desperate-tahs-20200216-p541ab.html


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:24 am 
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Betting:
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Lions 1.83
Handicap: Lions -2


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The Waratahs may be desperate to end their losing start to the season, but they are not about to copy the Lions blueprint and rush a number of veterans back into the team.

The Waratahs – with three defeats and a bye in the opening four weeks – take on the Lions (one win, two defeats and a bye) in Parramatta, Western Sydney, on Friday.

Both teams are coming off a buy this past weekend, with the Lions having travelled from Johannesburg to Sydney.

Waratahs forwards coach Matt Cockbain said they are “pretty determined” to break that losing streak.

He spoke of the need to “eradicate” the errors that have cost them dearly in the early part of the season.

He said they are hoping to finally put on display their “expansive” game, after the wet conditions in the opening rounds prevented them from showing off their full array of skills.

“The Lions are a big side, a heavy forward pack,” Cockbain said.

“That creates opportunities elsewhere. If we can move them around and tire them out, hopefully we can utilise that space.”

Despite the horror start to the season – their worst ever – the Tahs are not tempted to change the youthful nature of the squad.

They will be up against a Lions squad with a number of seasoned Springboks – like Willem Alberts (35 and 40-odd Test caps), Jannie Du Plessis (37, 70 Tests) and Elton Jantjies (29, 37 Tests).

“We’ll continue down that path,” Cockbain said of the selection policy

He pointed out that the Reds are beginning to benefit from developing young players within the system and recorded a very impressive (64-5) win over the Sunwolves at the weekend.

“It’s not as if we’ve got someone to bring in to replace those guys either,” the forwards mentor said, adding: “We’ll look to nurture them along and just support them.

“They’re going to make mistakes, that’s fine, but that’s a learning process and as long as they are learning from that then we’re happy with that.”

Cockbain pointed out that they had a really good review at the weekend and the players must take ownership of what they did wrong in the first three weeks.

“It’s just [about the coaching staff] being really clear with how we want them to play.

“That’s the art to coaching is to figure out what they need and you do that by asking the right questions.

“It could be anything that they need but you’ve got to ask the right questions to get the growth in the player I think.”

https://rugby365.com/tournaments/super-rugby/news-super-rugby/tahs-back-young-guns-to-break-duck-against-lions

The Lions pack has been outweighed by 40-60 kgs in every game so far

The starting pack weights for their last games (Wiki version)

Waratahs:
1 Gus Bell, 1.92 | 118
2 Robbie Abel, 1.83 | 112
3 Harry Johnson-Holmes, 1.86 | 111
4 Tom Staniforth, 1.98 | 113
5 Rob Simmons, 2.0 | 115
6 Jed Holloway, 1.96 | 118
7 Michael Hooper, 1.82 | 100
8 Jack Dempsey, 1.91 | 108

Pack weight: 895kg

Lions:
1 Dylan Smith, 1.81 | 102
2 Pieter Jansen, 1.83 | 103
3 Jannie du Plessis, 1.88 | 121
4 Ruben Schoeman, 1.99 | 124
5 Marvin Orie, 1.98 | 104
6 Marnus Schoeman, 1.78 | 96
7 Vincent Tshituka, 1.95 | 107
8 Len Massyn, 1.95 | 106

Pack weight: 863kg


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:04 pm 
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Jensrsa wrote:
Betting:
Waratahs 2.13
Lions 1.83
Handicap: Lions -2

New odds:
Waratahs 1.83
Lions 2.3
Handicap: Waratahs -1


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Jensrsa wrote:
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The Waratahs may be desperate to end their losing start to the season, but they are not about to copy the Lions blueprint and rush a number of veterans back into the team.

The Waratahs – with three defeats and a bye in the opening four weeks – take on the Lions (one win, two defeats and a bye) in Parramatta, Western Sydney, on Friday.

Both teams are coming off a buy this past weekend, with the Lions having travelled from Johannesburg to Sydney.

Waratahs forwards coach Matt Cockbain said they are “pretty determined” to break that losing streak.

He spoke of the need to “eradicate” the errors that have cost them dearly in the early part of the season.

He said they are hoping to finally put on display their “expansive” game, after the wet conditions in the opening rounds prevented them from showing off their full array of skills.

“The Lions are a big side, a heavy forward pack,” Cockbain said.

“That creates opportunities elsewhere. If we can move them around and tire them out, hopefully we can utilise that space.”

Despite the horror start to the season – their worst ever – the Tahs are not tempted to change the youthful nature of the squad.

They will be up against a Lions squad with a number of seasoned Springboks – like Willem Alberts (35 and 40-odd Test caps), Jannie Du Plessis (37, 70 Tests) and Elton Jantjies (29, 37 Tests).

“We’ll continue down that path,” Cockbain said of the selection policy

He pointed out that the Reds are beginning to benefit from developing young players within the system and recorded a very impressive (64-5) win over the Sunwolves at the weekend.

“It’s not as if we’ve got someone to bring in to replace those guys either,” the forwards mentor said, adding: “We’ll look to nurture them along and just support them.

“They’re going to make mistakes, that’s fine, but that’s a learning process and as long as they are learning from that then we’re happy with that.”

Cockbain pointed out that they had a really good review at the weekend and the players must take ownership of what they did wrong in the first three weeks.

“It’s just [about the coaching staff] being really clear with how we want them to play.

“That’s the art to coaching is to figure out what they need and you do that by asking the right questions.

“It could be anything that they need but you’ve got to ask the right questions to get the growth in the player I think.”

https://rugby365.com/tournaments/super-rugby/news-super-rugby/tahs-back-young-guns-to-break-duck-against-lions

The Lions pack has been outweighed by 40-60 kgs in every game so far

The starting pack weights for their last games (Wiki version)

Waratahs:
1 Gus Bell, 1.92 | 118
2 Robbie Abel, 1.83 | 112
3 Harry Johnson-Holmes, 1.86 | 111
4 Tom Staniforth, 1.98 | 113
5 Rob Simmons, 2.0 | 115
6 Jed Holloway, 1.96 | 118
7 Michael Hooper, 1.82 | 100
8 Jack Dempsey, 1.91 | 108

Pack weight: 895kg

Lions:
1 Dylan Smith, 1.81 | 102
2 Pieter Jansen, 1.83 | 103
3 Jannie du Plessis, 1.88 | 121
4 Ruben Schoeman, 1.99 | 124
5 Marvin Orie, 1.98 | 104
6 Marnus Schoeman, 1.78 | 96
7 Vincent Tshituka, 1.95 | 107
8 Len Massyn, 1.95 | 106

Pack weight: 863kg


It's a lazy softball for the press, relying on The 'big saffa pack' trope.


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Zakar wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
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The Waratahs may be desperate to end their losing start to the season, but they are not about to copy the Lions blueprint and rush a number of veterans back into the team.

The Waratahs – with three defeats and a bye in the opening four weeks – take on the Lions (one win, two defeats and a bye) in Parramatta, Western Sydney, on Friday.

Both teams are coming off a buy this past weekend, with the Lions having travelled from Johannesburg to Sydney.

Waratahs forwards coach Matt Cockbain said they are “pretty determined” to break that losing streak.

He spoke of the need to “eradicate” the errors that have cost them dearly in the early part of the season.

He said they are hoping to finally put on display their “expansive” game, after the wet conditions in the opening rounds prevented them from showing off their full array of skills.

“The Lions are a big side, a heavy forward pack,” Cockbain said.

“That creates opportunities elsewhere. If we can move them around and tire them out, hopefully we can utilise that space.”

Despite the horror start to the season – their worst ever – the Tahs are not tempted to change the youthful nature of the squad.

They will be up against a Lions squad with a number of seasoned Springboks – like Willem Alberts (35 and 40-odd Test caps), Jannie Du Plessis (37, 70 Tests) and Elton Jantjies (29, 37 Tests).

“We’ll continue down that path,” Cockbain said of the selection policy

He pointed out that the Reds are beginning to benefit from developing young players within the system and recorded a very impressive (64-5) win over the Sunwolves at the weekend.

“It’s not as if we’ve got someone to bring in to replace those guys either,” the forwards mentor said, adding: “We’ll look to nurture them along and just support them.

“They’re going to make mistakes, that’s fine, but that’s a learning process and as long as they are learning from that then we’re happy with that.”

Cockbain pointed out that they had a really good review at the weekend and the players must take ownership of what they did wrong in the first three weeks.

“It’s just [about the coaching staff] being really clear with how we want them to play.

“That’s the art to coaching is to figure out what they need and you do that by asking the right questions.

“It could be anything that they need but you’ve got to ask the right questions to get the growth in the player I think.”

https://rugby365.com/tournaments/super-rugby/news-super-rugby/tahs-back-young-guns-to-break-duck-against-lions

The Lions pack has been outweighed by 40-60 kgs in every game so far

The starting pack weights for their last games (Wiki version)

Waratahs:
1 Gus Bell, 1.92 | 118
2 Robbie Abel, 1.83 | 112
3 Harry Johnson-Holmes, 1.86 | 111
4 Tom Staniforth, 1.98 | 113
5 Rob Simmons, 2.0 | 115
6 Jed Holloway, 1.96 | 118
7 Michael Hooper, 1.82 | 100
8 Jack Dempsey, 1.91 | 108

Pack weight: 895kg

Lions:
1 Dylan Smith, 1.81 | 102
2 Pieter Jansen, 1.83 | 103
3 Jannie du Plessis, 1.88 | 121
4 Ruben Schoeman, 1.99 | 124
5 Marvin Orie, 1.98 | 104
6 Marnus Schoeman, 1.78 | 96
7 Vincent Tshituka, 1.95 | 107
8 Len Massyn, 1.95 | 106

Pack weight: 863kg


It's a lazy softball for the press, relying on The 'big saffa pack' trope.


Those weights aren’t accurate though. Dylan Smith is the same size as Hooper?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:15 am 
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towny wrote:
Zakar wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:

The Lions pack has been outweighed by 40-60 kgs in every game so far

The starting pack weights for their last games (Wiki version)

Waratahs:
1 Gus Bell, 1.92 | 118
2 Robbie Abel, 1.83 | 112
3 Harry Johnson-Holmes, 1.86 | 111
4 Tom Staniforth, 1.98 | 113
5 Rob Simmons, 2.0 | 115
6 Jed Holloway, 1.96 | 118
7 Michael Hooper, 1.82 | 100
8 Jack Dempsey, 1.91 | 108

Pack weight: 895kg

Lions:
1 Dylan Smith, 1.81 | 102/118
2 Pieter Jansen, 1.83 | 103/103
3 Jannie du Plessis, 1.88 | 121/119
4 Ruben Schoeman, 1.99 | 124/122
5 Marvin Orie, 1.98 | 104/110
6 Marnus Schoeman, 1.78 | 96/100
7 Vincent Tshituka, 1.95 | 107/107
8 Len Massyn, 1.95 | 106/106

Pack weight:863/885


It's a lazy softball for the press, relying on The 'big saffa pack' trope.


Those weights aren’t accurate though. Dylan Smith is the same size as Hooper?

I used the Wikipedia weight as the Tahs don't have the players' weights on their website. The Lions pack weight of 863kgs is similar to the pack weight given during their game against the Stormers although using the weights on the Lions website the pack weight comes to 885 kgs (Dylan Smith 118kg)


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You gotta feel sorry for HJH. Had a breakout year in 2019 - gets rewarded by being switched to THP, which is hard enough in itself, but now he has to somehow get past AAA and Thor to get a gold jersey.


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Guessing Skosan and Massyn will be starting? Dayimani likely to receive similar minutes as previous rounds?


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Guessing Skosan and Massyn will be starting? Dayimani likely to receive similar minutes as previous rounds?

You mean Tshituka, the flank? Probably

I'd like to see Campher to start at 2 and Alberts at 4 to strengthen the scrums. Other possible changes might be Warner at 9 and Simelane at 13 leaving a high speed, high impact bench


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Jensrsa, excellent game thread. :thumbup:

Waratah fans are in a state of despair. A good-enough squad, but our game has been *awful*. We're always slow starters, but this is different. Dunno.

Anyway, looking forward to the game. Love hosting the Lions. A fantastically enterprising side.


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Hopefully the Lions can take advantage of some "easier" fixtures now...


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Hopefully the Lions can take advantage of some "easier" fixtures now...

The Lions is also one of the "easier" teams. :)

The Lions need to build on their performance against the Stormers. And close out the game if they get the chance


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Only 7 players of the Lions that beat the Tahs 29-0 2 years ago are currently with the Lions, only 6 are on tour

Lions 2018
15 Andries Coetzee
14 Ruan Combrinck - Stade Français
13 Lionel Mapoe - Stade Français
12 Harold Vorster - Panasonic Wild Knights
11 Madosh Tambwe - Sharks
10 Elton Jantjies
9 Dillon Smit - Not on tour
1 Jacques Van Rooyen - NTT Docomo Red Hurricanes
2 Malcolm Marx - NTT Shining Arcs
3 Ruan Dreyer - Gloucester
4 Andries Ferreira - Bulls
5 Marvin Orie
6 Kwagga Smith - Yamaha Jubilo
7 Franco Mostert - Gloucester
8 Hacjivah Dayimani
REPLACEMENTS
16 Robbie Coetzee - Retired
17 Dylan Smith
18 Jacobie Adriaanse - Retired
19 Lourens Erasmus - NTT Docomo Red Hurricanes
20 Marnus Schoeman
21 Nic Groom - Edinburgh
22 Rohan Janse van Rensburg - Sale
23 Sylvian Mahuza - NTT Shining Arcs

The Tahs are slightly better (?) off with 11 of the 2018 players still in the squad
Waratahs 2018
15 Bryce Hegarty - Reds
14 Alex Newsome
13 Curtis Rona - London Irish
12 Kurtley Beale
11 Taqele Naiyaravoro - Northampto
10 Bernard Foley - Kubota Spears
9 Jake Gordon
1 Tom Robertson
2 Damien Fitzpatrick

3 Sekope Kepu - London Irish
4 Tom Staniforth
5 Rob Simmons
6 Ned Hanigan
7 Michael Hooper

8 Michael Wells - Rebels
REPLACEMENTS
16 Hugh Roach - Tasman
17 Harry Johnson-Holmes
18 Paddy Ryan - Munakata Sanix Blues
19 Nick Palmer - Northern Suburbs
20 Jed Holloway
21 Will Miller - Brumbies
22 Nick Phipps - London Irish
23 Lalakai Foketi


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I hope they had a good turn-out this morning
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Less than a handfull of games into the season and the headcoach is asking the players for advice?


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Less than a handfull of games into the season and the headcoach is asking the players for advice?

Seems the senior players aren't quite buying into the game plan he wants the Tahs to play


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Jensrsa, excellent game thread. :thumbup:

Waratah fans are in a state of despair. A good-enough squad, but our game has been *awful*. We're always slow starters, but this is different. Dunno.

Anyway, looking forward to the game. Love hosting the Lions. A fantastically enterprising side.

Thanks

Two relatively "new" teams with new coaches. Anything can happen


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Less than a handfull of games into the season and the headcoach is asking the players for advice?

Seems the senior players aren't quite buying into the game plan he wants the Tahs to play

Yeah, but some on here were touting Rob Penney as a very good coach. It doesn't wash.


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The Waratahs are broken. Penney is the poor bloke who’s lap they slithered in to.


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Lions: 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Tyrone Green, 13 Manuel Rass, 12 Dan Kriel, 11 Jamba Ulengo, 10 Elton Jantjies (captain), 9 Andre Warner, 8 Len Massyn, 7 Vincent Tshituka, 6 Marnus Schoeman, 5 Marvin Orie, 4 Ruben Schoeman, 3 Carlu Sadie, 2 Jan-Henning Campher, 1 Dylan Smith
Substitutes: 16 Pieter Jansen, 17 Sti Sithole, 18 Frans van Wyk, 19 Willem Alberts, 20 Wilhelm van der Sluys, 21 Hacjivah Dayimani, 22 Morne van den Berg, 23 Wandisile Simelane

Changes:
Ulengo in for Skosan (not in match 23)
Warner in for van den Berg
Sadie in for du Plessis (not in match 23)
Campher in for Jansen

Bringing in Campher and Sadie should strengthen the scrums but Campher's poor lineout skills are a worry


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Waratahs: 15 Kurtley Beale, 14 Mark Nawaqanitawase, 13 Alex Newsome, 12 Karmichael Hunt, 11 Jack Maddocks, 10 Will Harrison, 9 Jake Gordon, 8 Jack Dempsey, 7 Michael Hooper, 6 Lachlan Swinton, 5 Rob Simmons (captain), 4 Tom Staniforth, 3 Harry Johnson-Holmes, 2 Robbie Abel, 1 Angus Bell.
Replacements: 16 Damien Fitzpatrick, 17 Tom Robertson, 18 Tetera Faulkner, 19 Ryan McCauley, 20 Jed Holloway, 21 Mitch Short , 22 Lalakai Foketi, 23 James Ramm.

Lachlan Swinton replaces Jed Holloway in the back row.

Mark Nawaqanitawase returns to the wing.

James Ramm joins the bench in place of Cameron Clark

Jake Gordon will earn his 50th cap

Kurtley Beale will become the most capped player in this fixture – having played in 11 matches between the Tahs and Lions.


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Lions: 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Tyrone Green, 13 Manuel Rass, 12 Dan Kriel, 11 Jamba Ulengo, 10 Elton Jantjies (captain), 9 Andre Warner, 8 Len Massyn, 7 Vincent Tshituka, 6 Marnus Schoeman, 5 Marvin Orie, 4 Ruben Schoeman, 3 Carlu Sadie, 2 Jan-Henning Campher, 1 Dylan Smith
Substitutes: 16 Pieter Jansen, 17 Sti Sithole, 18 Frans van Wyk, 19 Willem Alberts, 20 Wilhelm van der Sluys, 21 Hacjivah Dayimani, 22 Morne van den Berg, 23 Wandisile Simelane

Changes:
Ulengo in for Skosan (not in match 23)
Warner in for van den Berg
Sadie in for du Plessis (not in match 23)
Campher in for Jansen

Bringing in Campher and Sadie should strengthen the scrums but Campher's poor lineout skills are a worry


Lions by 50!
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Referee: Angus Gardner
AR1: Jordan Way
AR2: James Quinn
TMO: Ian Smith

Something went wrong here. :shock:


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Lions can win this.


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Jensrsa wrote:
Waratahs: 15 Kurtley Beale, 14 Mark Nawaqanitawase, 13 Alex Newsome, 12 Karmichael Hunt, 11 Jack Maddocks, 10 Will Harrison, 9 Jake Gordon, 8 Jack Dempsey, 7 Michael Hooper, 6 Lachlan Swinton, 5 Rob Simmons (captain), 4 Tom Staniforth, 3 Harry Johnson-Holmes, 2 Robbie Abel, 1 Angus Bell.
Replacements: 16 Damien Fitzpatrick, 17 Tom Robertson, 18 Tetera Faulkner, 19 Ryan McCauley, 20 Jed Holloway, 21 Mitch Short , 22 Lalakai Foketi, 23 James Ramm.

Lachlan Swinton replaces Jed Holloway in the back row.

Mark Nawaqanitawase returns to the wing.

James Ramm joins the bench in place of Cameron Clark

Jake Gordon will earn his 50th cap

Kurtley Beale will become the most capped player in this fixture – having played in 11 matches between the Tahs and Lions.



That’s a decent lineup.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:32 am 
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OomPB wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Referee: Angus Gardner
AR1: Jordan Way
AR2: James Quinn
TMO: Ian Smith

Something went wrong here. :shock:

Not an issue. Angus Gardner blows in the Lions favour 80% of the time :)


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The Oz and kiwi refs may not be all competent, but they aren’t cheats. Can’t remember any 20-1 penalty counts on this side of the world.


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The tahs are so kak we don't need our bent ref's.


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Jensrsa wrote:
OomPB wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Referee: Angus Gardner
AR1: Jordan Way
AR2: James Quinn
TMO: Ian Smith

Something went wrong here. :shock:

Not an issue. Angus Gardner blows in the Lions favour 80% of the time :)

Great that they dont use neutral refs. :thumbup: Kiwi ref will penalise the Waratards.


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The tahs are so kak we don't need our bent ref's.


Yes you do.


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The Oz and kiwi refs may not be all competent, but they aren’t cheats. Can’t remember any 20-1 penalty counts on this side of the world.

When a team is ill-disciplined they should be blown up. None of this faux "balancing" of penalty counts the Kiwis and Ozzies want


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OomPB wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
OomPB wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Referee: Angus Gardner
AR1: Jordan Way
AR2: James Quinn
TMO: Ian Smith

Something went wrong here. :shock:

Not an issue. Angus Gardner blows in the Lions favour 80% of the time :)

Great that they dont use neutral refs. :thumbup: Kiwi ref will penalise the Waratards.

So would any Strayan ref with a sense of decency.


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