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When will the Beetroot end up in the compost?
A week. If he is lucky 8%  8%  [ 3 ]
A few months at best 14%  14%  [ 5 ]
At least a year 25%  25%  [ 9 ]
He will see out his term 11%  11%  [ 4 ]
He will see his new unborn childs 21st birthday from the duchy of New England 17%  17%  [ 6 ]
What, that filthy sheep shagger? 25%  25%  [ 9 ]
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:26 am 
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Bennelong polls should have closed but am seeing zero coverage anywhere, but did give me a chance to be all smug about my decision a few years back not to watch tellie, what an unending load of tripe is being dished up ... except for the cricket and we do love to see the pomms going down quicker than shots at the Cabana lounge.

Big call for Labor to pull this one off, but how much of a swing will seriously damage the PM :?:

Intriguing battle coming up, might give ABC 24 hour news a job in the background, though the bbq is being fired up for the first time at our new place so interest might just wan by 8 or so :thumbup:


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Bennelong polls should have closed but am seeing zero coverage anywhere, but did give me a chance to be all smug about my decision a few years back not to watch tellie, what an unending load of tripe is being dished up ... except for the cricket and we do love to see the pomms going down quicker than shots at the Cabana lounge.

Big call for Labor to pull this one off, but how much of a swing will seriously damage the PM :?:

Intriguing battle coming up, might give ABC 24 hour news a job in the background, though the bbq is being fired up for the first time at our new place so interest might just wan by 8 or so :thumbup:


if you follow ABC News on Facebook they are live streaming the coverage with Anthony Green in the studio. As yet no figures in to discuss but he feels it will be easy to determine any swing fairly quickly.


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Of course there will be a big swing, there always is in bye elections. But it is almost Christmas, so I don't think there will be any damage, unless the seat changes hands. If that happens, all hell will break loose. We would be in general election territory.


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Looks like the Libs will hold the seat with a swing against of about 6-7% not being enough to carry the majority to Labor.


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Looks like the Libs will hold the seat with a swing against of about 6-7% not being enough to carry the majority to Labor.

Right now I will put my hand up and cop a guilty plea from being as shallow as piss on a plate, but...

how could you not vote thusly?

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Ali's Choice would approve :thumbup:


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Ali's Choice would approve :thumbup:

As would Groucho :o


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Ali's Choice would approve :thumbup:

As would Groucho :o

Also Ellafan. A rare showing of tripartisan support, that.


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Ali's Choice would approve :thumbup:

As would Groucho :o

Also Ellafan. A rare showing of tripartisan support, that.



You all know she is a devout Catholic, don't you?


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wamberal99 wrote:
MungoMan wrote:
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Ali's Choice would approve :thumbup:

As would Groucho :o

Also Ellafan. A rare showing of tripartisan support, that.



You all know she is a devout Catholic, don't you?


:shock: Burn the witch!


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wamberal99 wrote:
MungoMan wrote:
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Ali's Choice would approve :thumbup:

As would Groucho :o

Also Ellafan. A rare showing of tripartisan support, that.



You all know she is a devout Catholic, don't you?

Read it in th’ paper, like.

I’ve managed thus far not to be too outraged.


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Well, they didn't

So now Labor will have three off to the high court in January

and this from the SMH

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A senior Labor MP said the relatively small swing of about five per cent to Labor's Kristina Keneally was "a terrible result, we poured a lot of resources into it and it's an ordinary outcome".

"Bill was a big negative in Bennelong but he wouldn't stay away."


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This is interesting, I suppose.
https://twitter.com/workmanalice/status ... 1479652353

If you're into blatant corruption.


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News just in from the sublime to ridiculous department...

Pamela Anderson has written to Peter Dutton demanding he investigate cruelty to animals on Manus Island

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In the open letter, the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) ambassador called for Mr Dutton to launch an inquiry into claims that one asylum seeker had their pet dog, Foxy, thrown from a moving bus by a guard. The incident allegedly occurred while detainees were moved to alternative accommodation last month from the island's main detention facility.

"Recent reporting from the camps indicates a new level of violence and suffering," the Canadian actress wrote.
"Animals feel pain, stress, and fear just as we do, and such callous abuse is unacceptable and threatens everyone in your care on Manus.

"Just as we all love the cats and dogs who share our homes, members of the Manus Island refugee community care deeply for their animal companions and share with them the precious few resources that they have. Foxy's primary caregiver is understandably distraught by the guard's actions. Displaced people often form close bonds with animals, who provide unconditional love and hope."

The animal rights activist concluded the letter by asking for Mr Dutton to begin an investigation to "give Foxy and her guardians the justice they deserve".


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Unless the ALP dumps Shorten, they will not win the next Federal Election.


Opinon polls mean zip. When it comes to the crunch, Shorten is electoral poison.


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Unless the ALP dumps Shorten, they will not win the next Federal Election.


Opinon polls mean zip. When it comes to the crunch, Shorten is electoral poison.


If Turnbull has 5 more Negative polls, we'll see won't we?


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Dutton really is a f**king turd of a human being...

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Peter Dutton says Victorians scared to go out because of 'African gang violence'

Victorians are “scared to go out to restaurants” because of “African gang violence”, Peter Dutton has said, in an interview attacking the supposed lack of deterrence of crime in Victoria.

The home affairs minister told 2GB on Wednesday that Victorians were “bemused” when they looked “at the jokes of sentences being handed down” due to “political correctness that’s taken hold”.

“There’s no deterrence there at the moment,” he said.

The federal Coalition government and Victorian opposition have stepped up rhetorical attacks on the Andrews Labor government using a string of high-profile incidents to claim that “African street gangs” are on the rise because (there's a Victorian state election this year) certain nationalities such as Sudanese are over-represented in statistics – although crime overall is in decline.



https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... g-violence


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Dutton really is a f**king turd of a human being...

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Peter Dutton says Victorians scared to go out because of 'African gang violence'

Victorians are “scared to go out to restaurants” because of “African gang violence”, Peter Dutton has said, in an interview attacking the supposed lack of deterrence of crime in Victoria.

The home affairs minister told 2GB on Wednesday that Victorians were “bemused” when they looked “at the jokes of sentences being handed down” due to “political correctness that’s taken hold”.

“There’s no deterrence there at the moment,” he said.

The federal Coalition government and Victorian opposition have stepped up rhetorical attacks on the Andrews Labor government using a string of high-profile incidents to claim that “African street gangs” are on the rise because (there's a Victorian state election this year) certain nationalities such as Sudanese are over-represented in statistics – although crime overall is in decline.


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... g-violence



If there's one positive that we can take from all this, it's that the Turnbull cabinet is too incompetent to even effectively dog-whistle. I mean, surely the art of it is developing a crypto-racist narrative and leaving people to fill in the blanks themselves? Saying things like "Victorians are scared to go out to restaurants" is so obviously untrue that it discredits the rest of the message. Anybody that's unfortunate enough to know a Victorian with a social media account knows that this is untrue.


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https://www.sbs.com.au/news/dutton-has- ... ng-premier


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Acting Premier and Member for Werribee, Tim Pallas, says Mr Dutton should apologise for his comments.

"I think the people of Werribee and the people of Wyndham deserve an apology from Mr Dutton. He's gone too far just to make a political point," Mr Pallas told the Nine Network.

He said the federal government was also to blame for the situation, for reducing allocations to migrant services including employment services.

Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce said he can't vouch whether Melbournians returning home from restaurants were scared because he hadn't discussed it with people.

"I've been very much encouraged by people in the Sudanese community who themselves are approaching issues ... sometimes the best solutions come within the community," he told ABC Radio.

Victoria's Youth Affairs Minister Jenny Mikakos said tackling youth crime and gang violence would take more than the simplistic answers offered up by critics.

"For those people who are running around putting about simplistic answers, all I can say is that is a complete con job," she told reporters in Melbourne.

"Because one thing alone is not going to fix this issue."

Ms Mikakos said youth crime was not a new issue, and authorities had been working with police and community organisations to focus on prevention and early intervention for a number of years.

Data from the Crime Statistics Agency shows a decline in the number of young criminals, as well as a decline in the proportion of total crime committed by young people, over the past 10 years
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https://newmatilda.com/2018/01/04/18-of ... -kill-you/

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African Youth Crime Gangs are out of control in Melbourne. People are being slaughtered. And then eaten alive, after they’ve been slaughtered. And then re-animated and slaughtered again. It’s that bad.


Only the bravest journalists from the Herald Sun and The Age are venturing out into the carnage to bring you ‘the exclusives’ and promote a civil public debate… about Vicious African Youth Crime Gangs. Which are out of control. And killing white Melburnians. Everywhere. All the time.

Anyhoo, New Matilda hit Melbourne town to find out the best places to eat where you won’t get stabbed or maimed or killed. Turns out the safest place to eat in Melbourne, amidst the chaos and panic, is at an African restaurant. Because Terrifying Vicious African Youth Crime Gangs don’t attack African restaurants. Because apart from being violent, Brutal Terrifying Vicious African Youth Crime Gangs are also racist.

So, in no particular order, here’s 18 Melbourne African restaurants where you can safely dine (and support, while this f**king shameful debate plays itself out), with props to Trip Advisor and of course Peter Dutton and Malcolm Turnbull, who’ve done more to promote fine African dining than any fascists before them.


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It could be worse. We could be Americans.


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Oh, well I guess it's ok then.


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Melbourne going the way of Germany, then.

Sad.


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Dutton is, of course, full retard. But that said, there are issues with South Sudanese kids and crime. It's mainly the same petty bullshit that you'll get anywhere from poor, disenfranchised, teenagers all over the shop, but it's still not great. One of those stupid situations where on the one hand you've got the Herald Sun wanting all blacks locked up, and on the other Junkee shrieking about the racialists and writing EDgY satire pieces.

Lot of the Sudanese refugees have lived through, and fled, some absolutely horrorshow stuff. Doesn't do much good to a person. Not exactly surprising that they're looking to hang out with each other, finding a group identity in that, gaining a bit of confidence and sense of purpose. Would be nice if they could channel that towards something vaguely less stupid though. Maybe some sort of organised contact sport?


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Dutton is, of course, full retard. But that said, there are issues with South Sudanese kids and crime. It's mainly the same petty bullshit that you'll get anywhere from poor, disenfranchised, teenagers all over the shop, but it's still not great. One of those stupid situations where on the one hand you've got the Herald Sun wanting all blacks locked up, and on the other Junkee shrieking about the racialists and writing EDgY satire pieces.

Lot of the Sudanese refugees have lived through, and fled, some absolutely horrorshow stuff. Doesn't do much good to a person. Not exactly surprising that they're looking to hang out with each other, finding a group identity in that, gaining a bit of confidence and sense of purpose. Would be nice if they could channel that towards something vaguely less stupid though. Maybe some sort of organised contact sport?


MAJAK DAW :lol: :lol:


you're right and the ABC had a good interview wth an Australian resident of Melbourne of Sudanese background ( like that?) yesterday saying exactly that. Then there was the Victorian acting premier pointing out the other day how the feds have withdrawn funding from social services that were helping with this whole dislocation issue so what do they expect to happen? Unless of course, they were actually smart enough to try and engineer an outcome like this... but they're not. So don't worry about that.


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Dumbledore wrote:
Dutton is, of course, full retard. But that said, there are issues with South Sudanese kids and crime. It's mainly the same petty bullshit that you'll get anywhere from poor, disenfranchised, teenagers all over the shop, but it's still not great. One of those stupid situations where on the one hand you've got the Herald Sun wanting all blacks locked up, and on the other Junkee shrieking about the racialists and writing EDgY satire pieces.

Lot of the Sudanese refugees have lived through, and fled, some absolutely horrorshow stuff. Doesn't do much good to a person. Not exactly surprising that they're looking to hang out with each other, finding a group identity in that, gaining a bit of confidence and sense of purpose. Would be nice if they could channel that towards something vaguely less stupid though. Maybe some sort of organised contact sport?


MAJAK DAW :lol: :lol:


you're right and the ABC had a good interview wth an Australian resident of Melbourne of Sudanese background ( like that?) yesterday saying exactly that. Then there was the Victorian acting premier pointing out the other day how the feds have withdrawn funding from social services that were helping with this whole dislocation issue so what do they expect to happen? Unless of course, they were actually smart enough to try and engineer an outcome like this... but they're not. So don't worry about that.

:lol: :x

Yeah, I wouldn't be giving them quiteeee that much credit. It's just hard and expensive stuff with not much in the way of tangible outcomes you can easily point to for an already suspicious public. Nice easy cut to make. They're going to have to get it right sharpish though, or it could get pretty nasty pretty quickly.


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It could be worse. We could be Americans.


fudge it I'm pushing we build a Fence at the Victoria/NSW border, or as I refer to it an expensive dingo urinal

A bit rich Malc claiming we should think about those less fortunate than ourselves after spending the year going on about people on disability payments, admittedly half his cabinet should be getting those payments.


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KRudd still likes to have a play...


https://twitter.com/MrKRudd/status/950202242207895552


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He is correct.

Complete mis-management


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They can't even stand to attention properly.

The SS will be disappointed!


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Abbott's attempting the ROK "Ready" stance...

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:lol:

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/joshtaylor/the ... lease-tony


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Australians may soon know what Tony Abbott said in a letter to the Queen during his ill-fated attempt to reinstate knights and dames in 2014, after the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet (PM&C) was ordered to hand over more than a dozen letters to the Queen from prime minister Malcolm Turnbull and former PMs Tony Abbott, Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd.

Walkley Award-nominated blogger William Summers, who last year revealed that deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce held dual citizenship with New Zealand, filed a freedom of information request with PM&C in November 2016 for all letters sent by the PM to the Queen since January 2013.

The request ended up with the Australian Information Commissioner Timothy Pilgrim for review, and PM&C argued that releasing 13 letters would "cause damage to the international relations of the Commonwealth" and would diminish "the confidence of ... representatives of other countries". Summers argued that this wasn't possible as the Queen, despite being the head of a foreign power, is also the Australian head of state.

"This is a letter between the Australian prime minister and the Australian head of state, who happens to be foreign," Summers wrote. "Any concerns about other nations losing trust in Australia because of the release of these letters are therefore overblown and should be discounted."

The Department of PM&C didn't address that particular argument in its confidential response to the commissioner, but Pilgrim said in his decision, published last week, that he was not persuaded that the release of the letters would damage international relations.

Pilgrim did agree that the documents were exempt from FOI law, as the letters from prime ministers to the Queen would reveal the deliberative processes of government, however Summers successfully argued that to release them would be in the public interest.

"Some of this information will undoubtedly be of strong public interest," Summers wrote. "For example, the letter dated March 2014 very likely relates to correspondence between Prime Minister Tony Abbott and the Queen regarding the reestablishment of knighthoods and dames in Australia."
PM&C argued that releasing the letters would adversely affect the relationship between the PM and the Queen.

"The effectiveness of such a relationship requires trust and confidence. Communications between Her Majesty the Queen and the prime minister are sent and received with the expectation of confidentiality."

Pilgrim disagreed, and ordered the department to release of the letters.

PM&C has until mid-February to appeal the decision to the Administrative Appeals Tribunal. If it doesn't, it will have to release the letters.


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The citizenship saga has finally claimed Feeney...

Labor quite likely to lose Batman to the Greens...

Meanwhile, the Libs are trying to paint Greens candidate Alex Bathal as “anti-Semitic,” simply due to her involvement with the Greens protests of the Israeli treatment of Palestinians... :lol:


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The citizenship saga has finally claimed Feeney...

Labor quite likely to lose Batman to the Greens...

Meanwhile, the Libs are trying to paint Greens candidate Alex Bathal as “anti-Semitic,” simply due to her involvement with the Greens protests of the Israeli treatment of Palestinians... :lol:


The libs are just shit stirring, they unlikely to even run someone. It will a "who is more left" contest between the Greens and Labor


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The citizenship saga has finally claimed Feeney...

Labor quite likely to lose Batman to the Greens...

Meanwhile, the Libs are trying to paint Greens candidate Alex Bathal as “anti-Semitic,” simply due to her involvement with the Greens protests of the Israeli treatment of Palestinians... :lol:


The libs are just shit stirring, they unlikely to even run someone. It will a "who is more left" contest between the Greens and Labor


Michael Kroger called the Greens "Extremists"....... :blush: :lol:


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The citizenship saga has finally claimed Feeney...

Labor quite likely to lose Batman to the Greens...

Meanwhile, the Libs are trying to paint Greens candidate Alex Bathal as “anti-Semitic,” simply due to her involvement with the Greens protests of the Israeli treatment of Palestinians... :lol:


The libs are just shit stirring, they unlikely to even run someone. It will a "who is more left" contest between the Greens and Labor


Michael Kroger called the Greens "Extremists"....... :blush: :lol:



I wouldn’t say ‘extremists’. I would say ‘slightly thick idealists’, instead.

Which I think, is a fair and balanced assessment.


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shanky wrote:
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Slim 293 wrote:
The citizenship saga has finally claimed Feeney...

Labor quite likely to lose Batman to the Greens...

Meanwhile, the Libs are trying to paint Greens candidate Alex Bathal as “anti-Semitic,” simply due to her involvement with the Greens protests of the Israeli treatment of Palestinians... :lol:


The libs are just shit stirring, they unlikely to even run someone. It will a "who is more left" contest between the Greens and Labor


Michael Kroger called the Greens "Extremists"....... :blush: :lol:



I wouldn’t say ‘extremists’. I would say ‘slightly thick idealists’, instead.

Which I think, is a fair and balanced assessment.


You've just described the Young Liberals to a T...... :lol:


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