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Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:01 am
by Salient
UncleFB wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:41 am
The Optimist wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:52 am What a disgrace. The govt's delivery on their vaccine promises have been abject failure.Greg Hunt has proven himself another talking sock puppet, full of BS promises. Australia's vaccine performance. is piss poor when compared to other developed countries... if not the worst. Aussie politicians talk so much, blah blah blah, blah blah blah and yet are utterly incompetent.

Greg Hunt should fudge off.

They are now sending critical cases from PNG to Qld hospitals. I don't mind helping sending extra vaccines to PNG, but we still have 40,000 Aussies trying to return home. Seriously WTF?! Took me 10 months, 4 cancelled flights even though I bought an $8,000 business class airfare, airlines kept trying to up sell me a first class airfare for $12,000 - 15,000. Because the govt kept cutting the numbers of returnees allowed per week. Now they are talking about reducing the numbers of returnees again.

Aus of almost exclusively gone with AZ vaccine, of course it is the vaccine with the blood clot problems. Why would you not go with 3 different vaccines as most developed countries did? Not only has AZ problems it also has production problems in India and Europe, leaving Aus f**ked because ScoMo hasn't a fvcken clue.

I hope Greg Hunt gets frost bite on his nose.
When you treat a country like a colony, suck all it's natural resources out of it, when shit happens you have step in. Shit has happened.

Also, as much as I like putting the boot into Scotty and his band of fvckwits they got AZ because it does the job and it was quicker to source in larger numbers initially. Oz is getting all of the vaccines (and is getting as many Novavax when it becomes available as Az. As farva notes the blood clots are really irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
Really? Why then is our vaccination rates a complete shambles? Are they holding the vaccine on the docks or something.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:26 pm
by UncleFB
Salient wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:01 am
UncleFB wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:41 am
The Optimist wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:52 am What a disgrace. The govt's delivery on their vaccine promises have been abject failure.Greg Hunt has proven himself another talking sock puppet, full of BS promises. Australia's vaccine performance. is piss poor when compared to other developed countries... if not the worst. Aussie politicians talk so much, blah blah blah, blah blah blah and yet are utterly incompetent.

Greg Hunt should fudge off.

They are now sending critical cases from PNG to Qld hospitals. I don't mind helping sending extra vaccines to PNG, but we still have 40,000 Aussies trying to return home. Seriously WTF?! Took me 10 months, 4 cancelled flights even though I bought an $8,000 business class airfare, airlines kept trying to up sell me a first class airfare for $12,000 - 15,000. Because the govt kept cutting the numbers of returnees allowed per week. Now they are talking about reducing the numbers of returnees again.

Aus of almost exclusively gone with AZ vaccine, of course it is the vaccine with the blood clot problems. Why would you not go with 3 different vaccines as most developed countries did? Not only has AZ problems it also has production problems in India and Europe, leaving Aus f**ked because ScoMo hasn't a fvcken clue.

I hope Greg Hunt gets frost bite on his nose.
When you treat a country like a colony, suck all it's natural resources out of it, when shit happens you have step in. Shit has happened.

Also, as much as I like putting the boot into Scotty and his band of fvckwits they got AZ because it does the job and it was quicker to source in larger numbers initially. Oz is getting all of the vaccines (and is getting as many Novavax when it becomes available as Az. As farva notes the blood clots are really irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
Really? Why then is our vaccination rates a complete shambles? Are they holding the vaccine on the docks or something.
I don't know, because the Libs are hopeless?

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:04 am
by kiap
Salient wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:01 am Really? Why then is our vaccination rates a complete shambles? Are they holding the vaccine on the docks or something.
When you say 'our vaccination rates' do you mean NZ or Australia's?

If the latter, they are holding 2.5 M of the CSL vaccine in Melbourne cold storage pending further AZ UK testing.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politi ... 6cfd1f5485

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:22 am
by Sensible Stephen
kiap wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:04 am
Salient wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:01 am Really? Why then is our vaccination rates a complete shambles? Are they holding the vaccine on the docks or something.
When you say 'our vaccination rates' do you mean NZ or Australia's?

If the latter, they are holding 2.5 M of the CSL vaccine in Melbourne cold storage pending further AZ UK testing.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politi ... 6cfd1f5485
And producing 900,000 doses a week. Well not really, but Scotty said so. But they should get up towards that rate too.

However when the AZ vaccine is finally given the green light, the infrastructure doesn't seem to be in place. Whos going to be jabbing people and when? This hasn't been organized properly.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:31 am
by Ali's Choice
Scott Morrison has weaved a wicked web of boasts and straight out lies with regards to this vaccination program, and is now desperately trying to untangle himself.


For the past 4-6 months his government has used the vaccination program as a way to inject positive news into the media cycle whenever they were in trouble. Whenever they'd had a bad week, Morrison and Hunt would trot out in front of a press conference and boast about being at the "front of the queue" for vaccinations. They would boast about how many million doses they had purchased. It was this govt that boasted about how well the vaccination would go and so it must be this govt this takes the blame for the debacle that has unfolded. As usual, Morrison is blaming everyone but himself.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 am
by kiap
Sensible Stephen wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:22 am
kiap wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:04 am
Salient wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:01 am Really? Why then is our vaccination rates a complete shambles? Are they holding the vaccine on the docks or something.
When you say 'our vaccination rates' do you mean NZ or Australia's?

If the latter, they are holding 2.5 M of the CSL vaccine in Melbourne cold storage pending further AZ UK testing.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politi ... 6cfd1f5485
And producing 900,000 doses a week. Well not really, but Scotty said so. But they should get up towards that rate too.

However when the AZ vaccine is finally given the green light, the infrastructure doesn't seem to be in place. Whos going to be jabbing people and when? This hasn't been organized properly.
The logistics has certainly been a mess. They need to extract the digit but also supply the states' systems.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:16 am
by Sensible Stephen
kiap wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 am
Sensible Stephen wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:22 am
kiap wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:04 am
Salient wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:01 am Really? Why then is our vaccination rates a complete shambles? Are they holding the vaccine on the docks or something.
When you say 'our vaccination rates' do you mean NZ or Australia's?

If the latter, they are holding 2.5 M of the CSL vaccine in Melbourne cold storage pending further AZ UK testing.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politi ... 6cfd1f5485
And producing 900,000 doses a week. Well not really, but Scotty said so. But they should get up towards that rate too.

However when the AZ vaccine is finally given the green light, the infrastructure doesn't seem to be in place. Whos going to be jabbing people and when? This hasn't been organized properly.
The logistics has certainly been a mess. They need to extract the digit but also supply the states' systems.
Yeah, I am just holding onto the hope that they do pull it together. Once the AZ doses get green lit, surely the jab rate should skyrocket. Please.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:47 am
by Pat the Ex Mat
Sydney Olympic Park touted as Sydney mega-vaccination site

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:51 pm
by Salient
kiap wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:04 am
Salient wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:01 am Really? Why then is our vaccination rates a complete shambles? Are they holding the vaccine on the docks or something.
When you say 'our vaccination rates' do you mean NZ or Australia's?

If the latter, they are holding 2.5 M of the CSL vaccine in Melbourne cold storage pending further AZ UK testing.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politi ... 6cfd1f5485
Would that 2.5m be part of the 3.1 million ScoMo is claiming the Euros haven't delivered, or are we talking a completely new batch? Oh and are the States still stockpiling as ScoMo previously claimed?

Getting hard to keep the lies in order kiap, seriously the Libs are making Trump looking honest at the moment, and yeah news corp the most blatantly pro ScoMo media on the planet, sure I believe everything they publish, though how did they find room to publish that article in amongst the Celeb gossip they seem to thrive on.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:42 pm
by shanky
guy smiley wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:46 pm :lol: :lol: :lol:




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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
What tipped them off, I wonder?

More vociferous and opinionated than even a regular taxi driver?

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:45 pm
by Sensible Stephen
Salient wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:51 pm
kiap wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:04 am
Salient wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:01 am Really? Why then is our vaccination rates a complete shambles? Are they holding the vaccine on the docks or something.
When you say 'our vaccination rates' do you mean NZ or Australia's?

If the latter, they are holding 2.5 M of the CSL vaccine in Melbourne cold storage pending further AZ UK testing.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politi ... 6cfd1f5485
Would that 2.5m be part of the 3.1 million ScoMo is claiming the Euros haven't delivered, or are we talking a completely new batch? Oh and are the States still stockpiling as ScoMo previously claimed?

Getting hard to keep the lies in order kiap, seriously the Libs are making Trump looking honest at the moment, and yeah news corp the most blatantly pro ScoMo media on the planet, sure I believe everything they publish, though how did they find room to publish that article in amongst the Celeb gossip they seem to thrive on.
Do you even bother to read, or just fly into a rage for fun all the time?

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:56 pm
by Ali's Choice
Kevin Rudd looks better and better as the years roll on.

He was executed by News Ltd for apparently being a task-master boss. For being a demanding supervisor he was attacked every day in the News Ltd press until he was deposed. Fast forward to today we have an alleged rapist happily sitting in Cabinet. But that's okay because he is a Liberal.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:00 am
by shanky
guy smiley wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:53 pm
shanky wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:42 pm

What tipped them off, I wonder?

More vociferous and opinionated than even a regular taxi driver?
Just try to imagine the conversation. It would be like having a wet tea towel slowly draped over your head before someone threw a bag of flour at it... then, inextricably it bursts into a dialogue in fluent Mandarin praising the micro-economic reforms that aided 10 million in Bangladesh.
Holy shit. That's way too realistic a vision of my liking. :lol: :lol:



"It rubs the Kevin7 lotion on its skin!"

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:16 am
by shanky
guy smiley wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:07 am I meant to say inexplicable but on reflection, inextricable works even betterer.
Indubitably

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:48 am
by Brumbie_Steve
shanky wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:42 pm
guy smiley wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:46 pm :lol: :lol: :lol:




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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
What tipped them off, I wonder?

More vociferous and opinionated than even a regular taxi driver?
They realised he wasn't from the sub continent?

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:23 am
by Pat the Ex Mat
Brumbie_Steve wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:48 am
shanky wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:42 pm
guy smiley wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:46 pm :lol: :lol: :lol:




Image



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
What tipped them off, I wonder?

More vociferous and opinionated than even a regular taxi driver?
They realised he wasn't from the sub continent?
WTF? :shock:

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:33 am
by kiap
Salient wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:51 pm Would that 2.5m be part of the 3.1 million ScoMo is claiming the Euros haven't delivered, or are we talking a completely new batch?
Separate batch, and from CSL.
Salient wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:51 pmOh and are the States still stockpiling as ScoMo previously claimed?
There is not much Pfizer stock to pile. The data for the last week of Feb was Qld Health's slow start to the rollout with c. 7,000 of 9,000 doses then unused.
Salient wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:51 pm Getting hard to keep the lies in order kiap, seriously the Libs are making Trump looking honest at the moment, and yeah news corp the most blatantly pro ScoMo media on the planet, sure I believe everything they publish, though how did they find room to publish that article in amongst the Celeb gossip they seem to thrive on.
While I'm sure Scomo's previous 900,000 a week claim was bullshit, local manufacture has already been ongoing for months and will soon enough hit their one million per week target.

Are you saying the CSL stock doesn't exist?

It's verging on tinfoil hat.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:48 am
by Ali's Choice
Kiap,

It's not just a supply issue. There is almost zero communication between the Feds and the States. Brad Hazzard was on 7.30 last night, and he repeatedly said that communication is poor. He said he got much of his info second hand off the media. He said that even if they set up vaccination hubs, they won't be able to ramp up vaccination number appreciably because they don't know when doses are arriving. He said it was a shambles.

Scott Morrison repeatedly boasted that we were at the "front of the queue" for vaccines, and that 4 millions does would be administered by the end of April. It's now well into April and we haven't done a quarter of that number. Morrison, as usual, is blaming others for this debacle, namely the EU and the states.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:50 am
by Salient
Sensible Stephen wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:45 pm
Salient wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:51 pm
kiap wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:04 am
Salient wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:01 am Really? Why then is our vaccination rates a complete shambles? Are they holding the vaccine on the docks or something.
When you say 'our vaccination rates' do you mean NZ or Australia's?

If the latter, they are holding 2.5 M of the CSL vaccine in Melbourne cold storage pending further AZ UK testing.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politi ... 6cfd1f5485
Would that 2.5m be part of the 3.1 million ScoMo is claiming the Euros haven't delivered, or are we talking a completely new batch? Oh and are the States still stockpiling as ScoMo previously claimed?

Getting hard to keep the lies in order kiap, seriously the Libs are making Trump looking honest at the moment, and yeah news corp the most blatantly pro ScoMo media on the planet, sure I believe everything they publish, though how did they find room to publish that article in amongst the Celeb gossip they seem to thrive on.
Do you even bother to read, or just fly into a rage for fun all the time?
Is English a first language for you? Given some of your posts I would imagine it's not. Clearly your comprehension skills are sorely lacking.

The question was aimed at Kiap, but by all means wade in and for the record have never posted onlin e in a state of rage, can you say the same?

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:55 am
by Salient
kiap wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:33 am
Salient wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:51 pm Would that 2.5m be part of the 3.1 million ScoMo is claiming the Euros haven't delivered, or are we talking a completely new batch?
Separate batch, and from CSL.
Salient wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:51 pmOh and are the States still stockpiling as ScoMo previously claimed?
There is not much Pfizer stock to pile. The data for the last week of Feb was Qld Health's slow start to the rollout with c. 7,000 of 9,000 doses then unused.
Salient wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:51 pm Getting hard to keep the lies in order kiap, seriously the Libs are making Trump looking honest at the moment, and yeah news corp the most blatantly pro ScoMo media on the planet, sure I believe everything they publish, though how did they find room to publish that article in amongst the Celeb gossip they seem to thrive on.
While I'm sure Scomo's previous 900,000 a week claim was bullshit, local manufacture has already been ongoing for months and will soon enough hit their one million per week target.

Are you saying the CSL stock doesn't exist?

It's verging on tinfoil hat.
Thanks for the clarification.

I'm just going by what the Feds are telling us, with topics ranging from States stockpiling to Euro non-delivery as claimed yesterday.

Why would you think it's tinfoil hat time? Are you telling me that the States have been stockpiling for no apparent reason, while the Euros have failed to deliver 3.1 million doses? Remember these are statements by our Federal government, are you now denying they made these statements?

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:56 am
by shanky
Definitely a parody account.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:00 am
by Sensible Stephen
Salient wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:50 am
Sensible Stephen wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:45 pm
Salient wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:51 pm
kiap wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:04 am
Salient wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:01 am Really? Why then is our vaccination rates a complete shambles? Are they holding the vaccine on the docks or something.
When you say 'our vaccination rates' do you mean NZ or Australia's?

If the latter, they are holding 2.5 M of the CSL vaccine in Melbourne cold storage pending further AZ UK testing.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politi ... 6cfd1f5485
Would that 2.5m be part of the 3.1 million ScoMo is claiming the Euros haven't delivered, or are we talking a completely new batch? Oh and are the States still stockpiling as ScoMo previously claimed?

Getting hard to keep the lies in order kiap, seriously the Libs are making Trump looking honest at the moment, and yeah news corp the most blatantly pro ScoMo media on the planet, sure I believe everything they publish, though how did they find room to publish that article in amongst the Celeb gossip they seem to thrive on.
Do you even bother to read, or just fly into a rage for fun all the time?
Is English a first language for you? Given some of your posts I would imagine it's not. Clearly your comprehension skills are sorely lacking.

The question was aimed at Kiap, but by all means wade in and for the record have never posted onlin e in a state of rage, can you say the same?
LOL. It had clearly been discussed over multiple posts and links that the 2.5 odd mil was the CSR doses that we are making.

So, whos the one struggling with comprehension?

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:02 am
by Ali's Choice
Salient wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:55 am Thanks for the clarification.

I'm just going by what the Feds are telling us, with topics ranging from States stockpiling to Euro non-delivery as claimed yesterday.

Why would you think it's tinfoil hat time? Are you telling me that the States have been stockpiling for no apparent reason, while the Euros have failed to deliver 3.1 million doses? Remember these are statements by our Federal government, are you now denying they made these statements?
Mate, some free advice. You're wasting your time arguing with posters like Kiap. They are rusted on Coalition voters who believe whatever News Ltd tells them to believe. They think whatever The Daily telegraph and Sky News after-dark tells them to think. They have always supported the Coalition and will always support them into the future. Kiap and shanky absolutely adore Scott Morrison. They think he's a miracle worker who is doing a brilliant job as Prime Minister. I suspect deep down they think the stalled vaccination roll-out is all Dan Andrews' fault.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:55 am
by Clogs
What's the name of the Labor leader again? Is he the one that 'fell' down the stairs and is on extended sick leave? Is that why we haven't heard from him, or is it all a big conspiracy amongst all news outlets that he isn't allowed to speak?

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:06 am
by Pat the Ex Mat
Clogs wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:55 am What's the name of the Labor leader again? Is he the one that 'fell' down the stairs and is on extended sick leave? Is that why we haven't heard from him, or is it all a big conspiracy amongst all news outlets that he isn't allowed to speak?
It was a car crash - and of course, you wouldn't know because of the conspiracy :nod:

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:10 am
by Clogs
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:06 am
Clogs wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:55 am What's the name of the Labor leader again? Is he the one that 'fell' down the stairs and is on extended sick leave? Is that why we haven't heard from him, or is it all a big conspiracy amongst all news outlets that he isn't allowed to speak?
It was a car crash - and of course, you wouldn't know because of the conspiracy :nod:

Youch. A car crash. Get well soon Andrew Albernaise.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:32 am
by shanky
Poor old Albo

Imagine being such a spakker that you can’t even make political hay out of this shitshow.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:13 am
by Sensible Stephen
shanky wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:32 am Poor old Albo

Imagine being such a spakker that you can’t even make political hay out of this shitshow.
Personally, I blame Sky News after-dark.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:26 am
by Clogs
Sensible Stephen wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:13 am
shanky wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:32 am Poor old Albo

Imagine being such a spakker that you can’t even make political hay out of this shitshow.
Personally, I blame Sky News after-dark.
I think that closeted far right wing news organisation the ABC is more to blame.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:23 am
by Clogs
guy smiley wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:35 am
Clogs wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:26 am
I think that closeted far right wing news organisation the ABC is more to blame.
Do you reckon you could have a crack at something new, and include humour in your shitposting routine?
Cmon, I thought 'Andrew Albernaise' was at least smile worthy to all but the most humourless of cvnts.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:04 am
by Brumbie_Steve
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:23 am
Brumbie_Steve wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:48 am
shanky wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:42 pm
guy smiley wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:46 pm :lol: :lol: :lol:




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What tipped them off, I wonder?

More vociferous and opinionated than even a regular taxi driver?
They realised he wasn't from the sub continent?
WTF? :shock:
Don't know where you catch your Ubers but the drivers are almost always from India or Pakistan.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:26 am
by Sensible Stephen
guy smiley wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:19 am
Brumbie_Steve wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:04 am
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:23 am
WTF? :shock:
Don't know where you catch your Ubers but the drivers are almost always from India or Pakistan.
They're not... you're stereotyping here Steve.
Exactly. Sometimes they are from Bangladesh.



I'm joking. I thought it was a shocker too.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:30 am
by Brumbie_Steve
guy smiley wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:19 am
Brumbie_Steve wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:04 am
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:23 am
WTF? :shock:
Don't know where you catch your Ubers but the drivers are almost always from India or Pakistan.
They're not... you're stereotyping here Steve.

Please apologise to all the people on whose behalf you are offended. Take a couple of deep breaths into a paper bag and I am sure you will be fine.

I would have thought that saying all Indians and Pakistanis are Uber drivers rather than the majority of Uber drivers in my experience are from the sub continent was stereotyping. Small but subtle difference. Anyway what heave the romans ever done for us.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:57 am
by shanky
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Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:04 am
by Bindi
Govt has just declared that only over 50s will be getting the locally-made vaccine. Rest will be getting Pfizer. Major setback. At least another full year to vaccination now. Probably the right decision though. Pity the backup plan wasn't more well thought out to begin with though.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:08 am
by grievous
How good are these travel bubbles

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:09 pm
by kiap
Bindi wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:04 am Govt has just declared that only over 50s will be getting the locally-made vaccine. Rest will be getting Pfizer. Major setback. At least another full year to vaccination now. Probably the right decision though. Pity the backup plan wasn't more well thought out to begin with though.
Yep, big unfilled gap on this. :uhoh: Heavily reliant on Pfizer now.

I suppose Novavax is also not on the near horizon quite yet either.

Is there a re-engineered UQ vaccine as another second wave option next year?

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:12 pm
by shanky
You won’t notice. It was going to take them a year to get to the under-50s anyway

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:51 pm
by Bindi
kiap wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:09 pm
Bindi wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:04 am Govt has just declared that only over 50s will be getting the locally-made vaccine. Rest will be getting Pfizer. Major setback. At least another full year to vaccination now. Probably the right decision though. Pity the backup plan wasn't more well thought out to begin with though.
Yep, big unfilled gap on this. :uhoh: Heavily reliant on Pfizer now.

I suppose Novavax is also not on the near horizon quite yet either.

Is there a re-engineered UQ vaccine as another second wave option next year?
I don't think so.

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:40 pm
by kiap
Obviously I only show this as read, without any other cross check.

Australia’s home-grown vaccine making a comeback

Jill Margo Health editor
Apr 7, 2021 – 5.34pm

After great disappointment late last year, Australia’s University of Queensland vaccine is back in development and the country may yet have its own home-grown coronavirus vaccine.

The UQ vaccine was Australia’s leading candidate against COVID-19 before it unexpectedly came unstuck in December.

Now it is being re-engineered and it is understood the UQ team is aiming to have it ready as part of the second wave of vaccines due sometime next year.

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With the benefit of all that was learnt in the first wave, the next is expected to be better able to deal with new variants of the virus.

In its original vaccine recipe, the UQ team used two fragments of an HIV protein. It was thought this would be OK because these fragments were inert and incapable of causing HIV or harm.

But people in the phase one trial received “false positive” results for HIV on some, but not all, blood tests. Although temporary, this was problematic.

Were the vaccine to be widely rolled out, many people may have thought they actually had HIV when they did not. Although there was no harm, there was a perception of harm.

It seemed an insurmountable issue and, in consultation with UQ and global biotech CSL, which was preparing to produce 51 million doses of the jab, the Australian government decided not to go ahead with the next clinical phase of the trials.

“The University of Queensland vaccine will not be able to progress based on scientific advice and will no longer feature as part of Australia’s vaccine plan,” Prime Minister Morrison said at the time.

The country would reposition and redeploy its resources and capability, and would secure extra AstraZeneca and Novavax jabs.

Australia’s vaccine community slumped with disappointment at the news but, behind the scenes, the UQ team began recovering and reorganising.

It announced it would continue to explore its innovative vaccine technology, with ongoing funding from CEPI, the global Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations.

When the pandemic hit last year, the UQ team was way ahead of the curve. In 2011, it had begun working on a vaccine against a respiratory virus that affected children.

The team used a molecular clamp and soon realised this innovative approach could be applied to a range of viruses. Over the next years, they showed it was very effective against about 10 different viruses in the laboratory.

CEPI was interested and put up funds for a project to prepare a vaccine platform technology against disease X – an unexpected future disease.

In 2018, the UQ team applied for a three-year grant of almost $15 million and got it, beginning in 2019.

So, when COVID-19 came along a year later, UQ had a head start.

Now the team has re-engineered its clamp. The HIV components have been vanquished and it is progressing with some alternative candidates.

On Tuesday, the preclinical data from its original trial was published. This was based on animal research conducted in the first half of last year.

It was the basis on which the first human trial was done. Results of this human trial are expected to be published in a prestigious journal later this month.

It’s also understood these results have given the UQ team confidence that the underlying platform technology is very effective.

In a statement to the press, UQ said the research team was grateful for the public support it had received and as stated at the time “they continue to work on the molecular clamp platform”.

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