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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:25 pm 
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Fair play Pricey. Had every right to walk away after that knockout.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Allen was dogsh!t, but Price showed he does still have a bit of that talent and skill left when he's not a bag of nerves.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:19 pm 
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Thanks for the links (for my mate natch).

I'm not impressed by whyte, all his talk of being frozen out of world title fights overlooks the fact that he's not that good.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:28 pm 
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crash 669 wrote:
Thanks for the links (for my mate natch).

I'm not impressed by whyte, all his talk of being frozen out of world title fights overlooks the fact that he's not that good.


Yeah, that seems to be the case, but his record gives him the right to prove otherwise. Of course, this fight may well finish that.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Jesus. where did that come from!


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Jesus modern heavyweight bouts are fought at a poor pace. None of these blokes would have coped with a prime Frazier, Norton or Holmes. They just don't work enough in each round to fight constantly for 12 (never mind 15) rounds.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:39 pm 
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I mean except for that round...

But still 1 out of 10 ain't much of a return.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Yeah, they are 3 stone heavier though...


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Yeah, they are 3 stone heavier though...


The longer I'm in boxing the more I think taking it to 12 rounds was a mistake. Blokes this big just don't make for good fights.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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RodneyRegis wrote:
crash 669 wrote:
Thanks for the links (for my mate natch).

I'm not impressed by whyte, all his talk of being frozen out of world title fights overlooks the fact that he's not that good.


Yeah, that seems to be the case, but his record gives him the right to prove otherwise. Of course, this fight may well finish that.


Guess we'll find out now anyway. Pretty solid outing apart from the knockdown which will surely worry them, coming out of the blue at the beginning of a round. Probably better it comes against this guy and they work on it though. Seems a nice guy, fights a lot.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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crash 669 wrote:
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Yeah, they are 3 stone heavier though...


The longer I'm in boxing the more I think taking it to 12 rounds was a mistake. Blokes this big just don't make for good fights.


Couldn't agree more. Certainly for heavyweight.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Are people suggesting that cruiserweights would beat heavyweights more often than not?


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Are people suggesting that cruiserweights would beat heavyweights more often than not?


I'm suggesting that if title fights were still 15 rounds modern heavyweights couldn't maintain the size they are and their stamina would have to improve. Taking fights to 12 rounds has actually made fights slower, with less action per round as blokes at 17 stone plus, can't maintain a fast pace - Whyte often looks gassed after about 8 rounds despite fighting at a generally slow pace, where Joe Frazier could fight 15 rounds at 3 times the pace.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Every link has frozen out. x(


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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https://cricfree.tv/watch/live/manny-pacquiao-vs-keith-thurman-live-streaming

Is working for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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RodneyRegis wrote:
Yeah, they are 3 stone heavier though...

Yes they are suggesting Frazier who was 205lbs in the fight of the century against a 215lbs Ali wouould beat these 240lbs + modern heavyweights.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Pac started the fight strong, but looks gassed now. Pac needs to win at least one of the Championship rounds to guarantee the win.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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I reckon Pacman by 2-3 rounds. Thurman was definitely in it but didn't apply consistent pressure when he was in good positions. There were plenty of times when Pac went to the ropes or was in a corner and Thurman couldn't stop him slipping out easily.

Seemed like a good, old, version of Pacquiao. He can't fight at the pace he used to but can clearly do enough across a fight to be a competitive elite fighter still. Should definitely think about calling it a day soon though, I would hate to see him get hurt by going too long.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Anonymous. wrote:
RodneyRegis wrote:
Yeah, they are 3 stone heavier though...

Yes they are suggesting Frazier who was 205lbs in the fight of the century against a 215lbs Ali wouould beat these 240lbs + modern heavyweights.


You just see what you like don't you?


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Split decision... :uhoh:

Glenn Feldman, you farking clown.

At least the right guy won. I should be grateful for that, I guess.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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crash 669 wrote:
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RodneyRegis wrote:
Yeah, they are 3 stone heavier though...

Yes they are suggesting Frazier who was 205lbs in the fight of the century against a 215lbs Ali wouould beat these 240lbs + modern heavyweights.


You just see what you like don't you?



One of these blokes is the same size as Sonny Liston. A guy who was much bigger than the 5"9 Joe Frazier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fADbaXl63I


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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One of the great performances by a 40+ fighter.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Whytes deserves a world championship fight now.

It’s getting farcical. Risky fight after risky fight, wins them all and no offer of a fight is a joke.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Wendigo7 wrote:
Whytes deserves a world championship fight now.

It’s getting farcical. Risky fight after risky fight, wins them all and no offer of a fight is a joke.

He did get an offer but unlike Ruiz he said no.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Dreadful news
https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/7/23/2 ... r-tko-loss


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Always a risk when you get punched in the head for a living. Surprisingly few deaths in boxing really considering the thousands of amateur and professional fighters around the world.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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booji boy wrote:
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Always a risk when you get punched in the head for a living. Surprisingly few deaths in boxing really considering the thousands of amateur and professional fighters around the world.

Every so often we will get a reminder of just what these guys are putting on the line in this business. That is why I don't have a problem with who these guys choose to fight when they are in a position to earn some serious cash.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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booji boy wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:


Always a risk when you get punched in the head for a living. Surprisingly few deaths in boxing really considering the thousands of amateur and professional fighters around the world.

Every so often we will get a reminder of just what these guys are putting on the line in this business. That is why I don't have a problem with who these guys choose to fight when they are in a position to earn some serious cash.


Yeah fair enough too. :thumbup:

Deaths are relatively rare but bouts like Eubank-Watson and Benn-McClellan are brutal reminders of what a tough and dangerous sport this is.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Whyte tests positive for a banned substance. x(

He's in massive trouble now.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Whyte tests positive for a banned substance. x(

He's in massive trouble now.


He's properly fucked himself there 8 year ban if found guilty, certainly at least 12 months out of the sport if he has to go appeal over a decision and he loses the moral high ground he's built for himself about being the avoided contender.

Be interesting to see what happens with this, he's no Canelo with an army of lawyers and suitcases of cash to make it go away.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Fighter not as well known but a second death this week
https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2019/07 ... -23-years/


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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crash 669 wrote:
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Whyte tests positive for a banned substance. x(

He's in massive trouble now.


He's properly fucked himself there 8 year ban if found guilty, certainly at least 12 months out of the sport if he has to go appeal over a decision and he loses the moral high ground he's built for himself about being the avoided contender.

Be interesting to see what happens with this, he's no Canelo with an army of lawyers and suitcases of cash to make it go away.


Where are you getting 8 years from? Most boxers get closer to 8 months for failing drugs tests.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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crash 669 wrote:
maverickmak wrote:
Whyte tests positive for a banned substance. x(

He's in massive trouble now.


He's properly fucked himself there 8 year ban if found guilty, certainly at least 12 months out of the sport if he has to go appeal over a decision and he loses the moral high ground he's built for himself about being the avoided contender.

Be interesting to see what happens with this, he's no Canelo with an army of lawyers and suitcases of cash to make it go away.


Where are you getting 8 years from? Most boxers get closer to 8 months for failing drugs tests.

He's had a 2 year ban already!


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Could be trouble on the horizon for Whyte.... again.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/49108875


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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SaintK wrote:
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crash 669 wrote:
maverickmak wrote:
Whyte tests positive for a banned substance. x(

He's in massive trouble now.


He's properly fucked himself there 8 year ban if found guilty, certainly at least 12 months out of the sport if he has to go appeal over a decision and he loses the moral high ground he's built for himself about being the avoided contender.

Be interesting to see what happens with this, he's no Canelo with an army of lawyers and suitcases of cash to make it go away.


Where are you getting 8 years from? Most boxers get closer to 8 months for failing drugs tests.

He's had a 2 year ban already!


Oh yeah, he's done for.

Weird they let him fight anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Oh yeah, he's done for.

Weird they let him fight anyway.

The reporting might not be accurate but if it is I believe there may be some hope for him yet


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Oh yeah, he's done for.

Weird they let him fight anyway.

The reporting might not be accurate but if it is I believe there may be some hope for him yet


Hearn is reporting that they passed the UKAD and VADA tests before the fight, which could well mean he's failed the post match tests.

If he turns out to have any steroids in his system I think they'll nail him right to the wall after he's called out the WBC and other organisations so vocally (quite rightly) for denying him his title shot.

But at least he's got his narrative sorted for why he never gets a title, rather than him just not being that good.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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crash 669 wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
Are people suggesting that cruiserweights would beat heavyweights more often than not?


I'm suggesting that if title fights were still 15 rounds modern heavyweights couldn't maintain the size they are and their stamina would have to improve. Taking fights to 12 rounds has actually made fights slower, with less action per round as blokes at 17 stone plus, can't maintain a fast pace - Whyte often looks gassed after about 8 rounds despite fighting at a generally slow pace, where Joe Frazier could fight 15 rounds at 3 times the pace.

Do you realise the size of the heavyweights now? They'd destroy cruserweights. It won't even be close.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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Oh yeah, he's done for.

Weird they let him fight anyway.

The reporting might not be accurate but if it is I believe there may be some hope for him yet


Hearn is reporting that they passed the UKAD and VADA tests before the fight, which could well mean he's failed the post match tests.

If he turns out to have any steroids in his system I think they'll nail him right to the wall after he's called out the WBC and other organisations so vocally (quite rightly) for denying him his title shot.

But at least he's got his narrative sorted for why he never gets a title, rather than him just not being that good.


Hearn is saying something completely different in this report.

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Dillian Whyte's promoter Eddie Hearn has urged fans to "wait for the facts" before judging the fighter.
Speaking to iFL TV, the promoter said Whyte was cleared to fight Colombian Rivas at London's O2 Arena on Saturday after attending an independent panel hearing.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/49122039


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Joshua
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If he was caught juicing before the fight and the WBC weren't told he's toast


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