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Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:59 pm
by Wilson's Toffee
Lunch - avocado with salt, black pepper and habanero sauce.... nice !

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:11 pm
by sorCrer
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Lunch - avocado with salt, black pepper and habanero sauce.... nice !
Black pepper === racist!!!

NIPPER!

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:12 pm
by englishchief
:lol:

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:22 pm
by Average Joe
Welcome back you blind old fart.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:34 pm
by OupaStruisbaai
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Lunch - avocado with salt, black pepper and habanero sauce.... nice !
Welkom terug Oom Toffee, ons het jou gemis!!

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:38 pm
by OupaStruisbaai
Chilli wrote:
Bokkom wrote:I braai steak in the flames, not coals.
It is difficult to get even heat, therefore even cooking with flames. If you can get it then kudos to you ! :thumbup:
I always use flames. Chilli is it important to rest steak a few minutes before serving?

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:39 pm
by Fangle
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Another good steak - "picanha". Sirloin with a difference.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kLSy6bPWnk
I think that is the one Chilli was referring to. It is common in Brazil and you get it in all Brazilian churrascarias - barbecue restaurants. A really tasty cut. Do they have churrascarias in SA yet?

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:41 pm
by OupaStruisbaai
Wilson's Toffee wrote:
handyman wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Chilli. :thumbup:


Enough to get me out of my hibernation. For a short while.


Try coconut oil for flame grilling a steak - had some dramatic effects with it. Lowish combustion temperature. Canola oil is much higher.
My donner, hy leef! Wat het van jou geword WT?

"Hibernate" so bietjie. Mors te veel tyd hier, het eergister begin kyk of jul nog leef na Rassie se eerse twee toetse.

Sal BAIE minder tyd hier moet deurbring - besigheid roep.
Jy gaan nie weer loop oor kinderkak nie. Ek gooi hier n moerse klomp politiek aas uit , sonder n byt , om eers later uit te vind jy het gepack up en pull out!

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:46 pm
by sorCrer
OomPB wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Bokkom wrote:I braai steak in the flames, not coals.
It is difficult to get even heat, therefore even cooking with flames. If you can get it then kudos to you ! :thumbup:
I always use flames. Chilli is it important to rest steak a few minutes before serving?
Aged or Fresh?

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:48 pm
by OupaStruisbaai
sorCrer wrote:
OomPB wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Bokkom wrote:I braai steak in the flames, not coals.
It is difficult to get even heat, therefore even cooking with flames. If you can get it then kudos to you ! :thumbup:
I always use flames. Chilli is it important to rest steak a few minutes before serving?
Aged or Fresh?
Aged.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:53 pm
by Bokkom
:smug: :thumbup: Toffee

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:03 pm
by handyman
OomPB wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Bokkom wrote:I braai steak in the flames, not coals.
It is difficult to get even heat, therefore even cooking with flames. If you can get it then kudos to you ! :thumbup:
I always use flames. Chilli is it important to rest steak a few minutes before serving?
It's extremely important. Rest for about a third of the time (minimum) it took you to braai it.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:10 pm
by saffer13
handyman wrote:Busy with a braai project as well. Massive braai (2 meter opening), with working tops left and right (1.2 meter each).
Floor is paving at the moment, want to get a concrete floor with big, rough edge outside tiles.
Getting a roof as well.

First quote was R 180 000! :x :((
The first braai building response since my question :thumbup:

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:11 pm
by saffer13
Fangle wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Another good steak - "picanha". Sirloin with a difference.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kLSy6bPWnk
I think that is the one Chilli was referring to. It is common in Brazil and you get it in all Brazilian churrascarias - barbecue restaurants. A really tasty cut. Do they have churrascarias in SA yet?
Agree. Often use it at home now on the braai and on the spit. Fantastic stuff. :thumbup:

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:18 pm
by Wilson's Toffee
Fangle wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Another good steak - "picanha". Sirloin with a difference.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kLSy6bPWnk
I think that is the one Chilli was referring to. It is common in Brazil and you get it in all Brazilian churrascarias - barbecue restaurants. A really tasty cut. Do they have churrascarias in SA yet?

Sirloin is a cut for'ard of the rump. Just as tasty.

I do not know about the churrascarias, Sorc might be able to tell you if they have them in Jo'Burgh. .
Looks like a good idea. although the Bosvelders think they know all about braai. Argentinians might teach them a thing or two, too ...

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:20 pm
by Fangle
OomPB wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Lunch - avocado with salt, black pepper and habanero sauce.... nice !
Welkom terug Oom Toffee, ons het jou gemis!!
Indeed. I miss all your tongue in cheek comments which drive someone, who likes to report pisters, completely nuts.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:20 pm
by Wilson's Toffee
OomPB wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:
handyman wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Chilli. :thumbup:


Enough to get me out of my hibernation. For a short while.


Try coconut oil for flame grilling a steak - had some dramatic effects with it. Lowish combustion temperature. Canola oil is much higher.
My donner, hy leef! Wat het van jou geword WT?

"Hibernate" so bietjie. Mors te veel tyd hier, het eergister begin kyk of jul nog leef na Rassie se eerse twee toetse.

Sal BAIE minder tyd hier moet deurbring - besigheid roep.
Jy gaan nie weer loop oor kinderkak nie. Ek gooi hier n moerse klomp politiek aas uit , sonder n byt , om eers later uit te vind jy het gepack up en pull out!
:lol:

Bietjie gaan rus, kop skoon kry en bietjie werk. Vars perspektief werk altyd....

Moet 'n slag gaan LAANNNG vakansie hou, sonder internet. Kort dit, werk al jare sonder behoorlike rus.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:21 pm
by Wilson's Toffee
Fangle wrote:
OomPB wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Lunch - avocado with salt, black pepper and habanero sauce.... nice !
Welkom terug Oom Toffee, ons het jou gemis!!
Indeed. I miss all your tongue in cheek comments which drive someone, who likes to report pisters, completely nuts.

:lol:


:thumbup:


Glad to see you chaps, too. Actually missed you, come to think of it ..

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:32 pm
by saffer13
Getting a smaller photo....

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:40 pm
by sorCrer
OomPB wrote:
sorCrer wrote:
OomPB wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Bokkom wrote:I braai steak in the flames, not coals.
It is difficult to get even heat, therefore even cooking with flames. If you can get it then kudos to you ! :thumbup:
I always use flames. Chilli is it important to rest steak a few minutes before serving?
Aged or Fresh?
Aged.
Fairymuff. An old doos like you is hardly likely to get fresh. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Don't let it stand.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:40 pm
by saffer13
Ok, to give an idea of where this braai area will go, here a photo of the property. It will go next to the pool at the back, and when looking at the photo, either on the right side or straight back extending out from around the middle of the pool. There would be a short paved walkway to the braai area.
Image

Couple options:

Something like the traditional braai - that would actually not require a walkway and would go to the right side looking at the photo
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Or maybe something like this but with a rectangular fire pit with seating around and then possibly a wooden pergola overtop:
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Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:50 pm
by handyman
I'd say go for both if space allows it. Men stand by the braai and the women a few meters away around the voete-braai.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:51 pm
by Sandstorm
The second option is the one that'll add value to your house, however it will hit your wallet early on too. :lol:

I reckon you should add a pizza oven beside the braai, they're all the rage at present.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:56 pm
by sorCrer
Sandstorm wrote:add a pizza oven beside the braai, they're all the rage at present.
Ghandi wept. :(

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:02 pm
by englishchief
That has given me an idea for our soon-to-be huisie.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:05 pm
by saffer13
Sandstorm wrote:The second option is the one that'll add value to your house, however it will hit your wallet early on too. :lol:

I reckon you should add a pizza oven beside the braai, they're all the rage at present.
Believe it or not, the the current state of those two in the photos, the second one would be cheaper...if I don't do the paving on the ground. Plan is to have pebble rock on the ground with the concrete seating a little further away allowing space for a few beach type chairs for seating closer in.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:23 pm
by Sandstorm
sorCrer wrote:
Sandstorm wrote:add a pizza oven beside the braai, they're all the rage at present.
Ghandi wept. :(
Good place to hide your biltong from the women/kids while you braai. :thumbup:

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:43 pm
by saffer13
saffer13 wrote:
Sandstorm wrote:The second option is the one that'll add value to your house, however it will hit your wallet early on too. :lol:

I reckon you should add a pizza oven beside the braai, they're all the rage at present.
Believe it or not, the the current state of those two in the photos, the second one would be cheaper...if I don't do the paving on the ground. Plan is to have pebble rock on the ground with the concrete seating a little further away allowing space for a few beach type chairs for seating closer in.
But now you have me thinking sandy....both is what I'll probably do.

The traditional braai in an area to the right of the pool and then at the back right of the yard under the trees a more traditional campfire fire pit with pebble rocks and nice seating around the fire. Yard is a good size so that area under the trees will be a good spot for that. :thumbup:

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:44 pm
by Sandstorm
Boer maak a plan. :thumbup:

Just make sure you design the circular seating properly. Nothing worse than a bench where the seat is too narrow (like the one in your pic) and the backrest is vertical. Get a 60 degree slope going to be more comfy.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:49 pm
by saffer13
Sandstorm wrote:Boer maak a plan. :thumbup:

Just make sure you design the circular seating properly. Nothing worse than a bench where the seat is too narrow (like the one in your pic) and the backrest is vertical. Get a 30 degree slope going to be more comfy.
I'll actually avoid building the seating completely and have a nice big ring with pebble rock with the fire pit in the middle and nice chairs around it. Something like this:
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Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:50 pm
by Sandstorm
That looks wicked 8)

You can build a circular fire-pit about 3 feet high without even using mortar. Some tan coloured concrete blocks would be easy to stack.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:18 pm
by Sards
saffer13 wrote:
Sandstorm wrote:Boer maak a plan. :thumbup:

Just make sure you design the circular seating properly. Nothing worse than a bench where the seat is too narrow (like the one in your pic) and the backrest is vertical. Get a 30 degree slope going to be more comfy.
I'll actually avoid building the seating completely and have a nice big ring with pebble rock with the fire pit in the middle and nice chairs around it. Something like this:
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Walking on pebble stones and maintaining it......no thanks

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:43 pm
by Chilli
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Another good steak - "picanha". Sirloin with a difference.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kLSy6bPWnk
Picanha is the rump flap.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:46 pm
by Chilli
OomPB wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Bokkom wrote:I braai steak in the flames, not coals.
It is difficult to get even heat, therefore even cooking with flames. If you can get it then kudos to you ! :thumbup:
I always use flames. Chilli is it important to rest steak a few minutes before serving?
Yes. Rule of thumb is to rest it for half the time that you cooked it for.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:14 pm
by Wilson's Toffee
Chilli wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Another good steak - "picanha". Sirloin with a difference.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kLSy6bPWnk
Picanha is the rump flap.
Only repeating what these guys say. I breed and raise the stuff, strictly amateur slaughter - you are the cook/chef...

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:55 pm
by OupaStruisbaai
Time to have a Vic Falls cabal braai at Chillie.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:03 pm
by Wilson's Toffee
Chilli is in Zululand, now. You will have to do a timeshare weekend at Nkandla.

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:33 pm
by saffer13
Sandstorm wrote:That looks wicked 8)

You can build a circular fire-pit about 3 feet high without even using mortar. Some tan coloured concrete blocks would be easy to stack.
Exactly like the one I have now. I use it for a regular fire pit or when I use the spit. :thumbup:
Sards wrote:Walking on pebble stones and maintaining it......no thanks
I believe you said the same thing last time when I posted a pic of my current setup in front of my braai now and fangle had to set you straight then as well. The rocks we're talking about here are very smooth and don't hurt at all, in fact...feels bloody good under foot. :thumbup:

Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:38 pm
by julian
I know these guys have been sending parrillas abroad, and I can't stop recommending this one enough:

https://ahumadoras.com/product/parrilla-portatil/

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Re: Saffas - Braai question

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:41 pm
by saffer13
Very nice portable braai. I found a local guy here that visited SA and fell in love with the braai and has started building them as well. A little pricey though...

https://kudugrills.com/