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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:40 am 
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It has not rained in Bloemfontein since April this year.

I spoke to a few farmers this weekend and they say it is starting to become a critical situation for them in the Free State.

Rains are only expected in November.

According the University of the Free State this is the worst drought since 1933. :shock:

http://www.volksblad.com/nuus/2013-10-15-erger-as-1933


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Going to be in Kimberley and Bloemfontein since 1998 around mid November and they say it will rain for the first time since April......lucky!


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Going to be in Kimberley and Bloemfontein since 1998 around mid November and they say it will rain for the first time since April......lucky!


You from Bloem?


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DraadkarD wrote:
odd144 wrote:
Going to be in Kimberley and Bloemfontein since 1998 around mid November and they say it will rain for the first time since April......lucky!


You from Bloem?

Nope(I was born in Pretoria but lived all over South Africa as my Father was transfered a lot) , actually was 2002 not 1998.

Stopping in Kimberley/Bloem whilst honeymooning around South Africa.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:44 am 
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odd144 wrote:
DraadkarD wrote:
odd144 wrote:
Going to be in Kimberley and Bloemfontein since 1998 around mid November and they say it will rain for the first time since April......lucky!


You from Bloem?

Nope(I was born in Pretoria but lived all over South Africa as my Father was transfered a lot) , actually was 2002 not 1998.

Stopping in Kimberley/Bloem whilst honeymooning around South Africa.


:thumbup:

How long are you in Bloem for?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:48 am 
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DraadkarD wrote:
odd144 wrote:
DraadkarD wrote:
odd144 wrote:
Going to be in Kimberley and Bloemfontein since 1998 around mid November and they say it will rain for the first time since April......lucky!


You from Bloem?

Nope(I was born in Pretoria but lived all over South Africa as my Father was transfered a lot) , actually was 2002 not 1998.

Stopping in Kimberley/Bloem whilst honeymooning around South Africa.


:thumbup:

How long are you in Bloem for?

2 nights in Kimberley & 1 night in Bloem.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:54 am 
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So very sad to hear of those poor farmers' plight.


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odd144 wrote:
DraadkarD wrote:
odd144 wrote:
DraadkarD wrote:
odd144 wrote:
Going to be in Kimberley and Bloemfontein since 1998 around mid November and they say it will rain for the first time since April......lucky!


You from Bloem?

Nope(I was born in Pretoria but lived all over South Africa as my Father was transfered a lot) , actually was 2002 not 1998.

Stopping in Kimberley/Bloem whilst honeymooning around South Africa.


:thumbup:

How long are you in Bloem for?

2 nights in Kimberley & 1 night in Bloem.


Touring the whole country? That sounds awesome!

You must enjoy Boet!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:06 am 
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So very sad to hear of those poor farmers' plight.



Enjoy, Boet.

South African farmers are a hardy lot, with experience of farming and producing in extreme conditions. None more so than Free State and Northern Cape farmers. Your dry and arid western districts will do well to employ some of these men, there.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:07 am 
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DraadkarD wrote:

Touring the whole country? That sounds awesome!

You must enjoy Boet!

cheers bru will do, going be fun!

Hope it rains for the farmers, would be a sight to see a green Bloem!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:37 am 
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I remember the drought in Zim in the late 1980s. Every time the clouds would build up and the rain would blow them away.

I was 4 years old the first time I saw and felt rain.

Do they still do cloud seeding in the Vrystaat? The have been trialling it over here and it was deemed quite successful.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:42 am 
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I remember the drought in Zim in the late 1980s. Every time the clouds would build up and the rain would blow them away.

I was 4 years old the first time I saw and felt rain.

Do they still do cloud seeding in the Vrystaat? The have been trialling it over here and it was deemed quite successful.


I don't know. Have not seen any clouds for a while.

There seems to be rain foretasted for in Gauteng and Mpumalanga.

Jeez, 4 years is one hell of a drought :shock:

Where in Zim are you from?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:38 am 
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assfly wrote:
I remember the drought in Zim in the late 1980s. Every time the clouds would build up and the rain would blow them away.

I was 4 years old the first time I saw and felt rain.

Do they still do cloud seeding in the Vrystaat? The have been trialling it over here and it was deemed quite successful.



I lived and farmed in the Eastern Free State, then (1980s). The main cloud seeding base was in Bethlehem, ostensibly to promote rain to fall within the catchment area of the Vaal Dam. That means, within a rather narrow belt of the Eastern Free State.
They just created drought and hail storms, for more than a decade. IMHO. I was almost ruined, one cannot fight back against drought.

I am sure they are still busy, seeding. :x


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:11 am 
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There is always a drought somewhere in the Republic.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:39 am 
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We have the Southern Oscillation Index which is a lead indicator for El Nino and El Ninia that predict droughts etc. Do they have something similar in Sth Africa?


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Reminds me of my matric prescribed reading.
Die Rentmeesters by F.A. Venter.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:53 am 
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Brumbie_Steve wrote:
We have the Southern Oscillation Index which is a lead indicator for El Nino and El Ninia that predict droughts etc. Do they have something similar in Sth Africa?



Not that I know of. We tend to rely on USA data for El Nino and El Nina events. Although, we have a spat of private weather researchers (Jan Nigrini, others) who are mostly accurate.

Our weather forecast is mostly dominated by the State weather service, who face budget constraints - agriculture does not figure high on the current rulers' list. :roll:
And, there is a law PROHIBITING one from making certain weather forecasts if the said forecast has not been vetted and approved by the State service...


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:54 am 
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Reminds me of my matric prescribed reading.
Die Rentmeesters by F.A. Venter.



Try an older one - "Droogte", by C.N.van den Heever.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:06 pm 
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It just started raining....

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It just stopped :((


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I know it's screwing me around as well. Was planning on buying a bit of game with a farmer in the Jansenville area but with the food shortage it will be too much of a burden having to buy feed. :x


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:20 pm 
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DraadkarD wrote:
assfly wrote:
I remember the drought in Zim in the late 1980s. Every time the clouds would build up and the rain would blow them away.

I was 4 years old the first time I saw and felt rain.

Do they still do cloud seeding in the Vrystaat? The have been trialling it over here and it was deemed quite successful.


I don't know. Have not seen any clouds for a while.

There seems to be rain foretasted for in Gauteng and Mpumalanga.

Jeez, 4 years is one hell of a drought :shock:

Where in Zim are you from?


Ja it was bad. I remember every day at school we al had to pray for rain!

I'm from Bulawayo. I remember when it did rain it would always rain in the city and miss the catchment areas. We used to have a massive board in city centre telling us how many days of water we had left, and it got down to single digits quite a few times. And they say Zimbos don't have a sense of humour


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surely the ground is moistened enough with the tears of all the opprosed Blacks that continue to be hard done by by Honky, plus the tears of all the Dutchmen who can't get over the massive bum-ripping NZ gave them twice in quick succession ?


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I know it's screwing me around as well. Was planning on buying a bit of game with a farmer in the Jansenville area but with the food shortage it will be too much of a burden having to buy feed. :x

Yes, coupled with the looming white genocide, I think you made a wise decision.

:thumbup:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:25 pm 
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assfly wrote:
DraadkarD wrote:
assfly wrote:
I remember the drought in Zim in the late 1980s. Every time the clouds would build up and the rain would blow them away.

I was 4 years old the first time I saw and felt rain.

Do they still do cloud seeding in the Vrystaat? The have been trialling it over here and it was deemed quite successful.


I don't know. Have not seen any clouds for a while.

There seems to be rain foretasted for in Gauteng and Mpumalanga.

Jeez, 4 years is one hell of a drought :shock:

Where in Zim are you from?


Ja it was bad. I remember every day at school we al had to pray for rain!

I'm from Bulawayo. I remember when it did rain it would always rain in the city and miss the catchment areas. We used to have a massive board in city centre telling us how many days of water we had left, and it got down to single digits quite a few times. And they say Zimbos don't have a sense of humour


Jeez, that is intense. I know the dam supplying the Southern suburbs of Bloemfontein is only on 14% capacity, we are pretty close to water restrictions.


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Big Nipper wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
I know it's screwing me around as well. Was planning on buying a bit of game with a farmer in the Jansenville area but with the food shortage it will be too much of a burden having to buy feed. :x

Yes, coupled with the looming white genocide, I think you made a wise decision.

:thumbup:


:lol:

Looking to invest in some game in SA with my brother in law being in the industry and knowing it well. Good ROI in general.


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saffer13 wrote:
Big Nipper wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
I know it's screwing me around as well. Was planning on buying a bit of game with a farmer in the Jansenville area but with the food shortage it will be too much of a burden having to buy feed. :x

Yes, coupled with the looming white genocide, I think you made a wise decision.

:thumbup:


:lol:

Looking to invest in some game in SA with my brother in law being in the industry and knowing it well. Good ROI in general.


I see there is rain predicted for this week in the EC.

What about Graaf Reinette? Beautiful part of the country.


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DraadkarD wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Big Nipper wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
I know it's screwing me around as well. Was planning on buying a bit of game with a farmer in the Jansenville area but with the food shortage it will be too much of a burden having to buy feed. :x

Yes, coupled with the looming white genocide, I think you made a wise decision.

:thumbup:


:lol:

Looking to invest in some game in SA with my brother in law being in the industry and knowing it well. Good ROI in general.


I see there is rain predicted for this week in the EC.

What about Graaf Reinette? Beautiful part of the country.


What is the annual rainfall in GR? 7 inches?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:33 pm 
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DraadkarD wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Big Nipper wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
I know it's screwing me around as well. Was planning on buying a bit of game with a farmer in the Jansenville area but with the food shortage it will be too much of a burden having to buy feed. :x

Yes, coupled with the looming white genocide, I think you made a wise decision.

:thumbup:


:lol:

Looking to invest in some game in SA with my brother in law being in the industry and knowing it well. Good ROI in general.


I see there is rain predicted for this week in the EC.

What about Graaf Reinette? Beautiful part of the country.


It's been pretty dry there lately as well.


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Fangle wrote:
DraadkarD wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Big Nipper wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
I know it's screwing me around as well. Was planning on buying a bit of game with a farmer in the Jansenville area but with the food shortage it will be too much of a burden having to buy feed. :x

Yes, coupled with the looming white genocide, I think you made a wise decision.

:thumbup:


:lol:

Looking to invest in some game in SA with my brother in law being in the industry and knowing it well. Good ROI in general.


I see there is rain predicted for this week in the EC.

What about Graaf Reinette? Beautiful part of the country.


What is the annual rainfall in GR? 7 inches?


Around 240mm


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Thzt is half of Queenstown.


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Thzt is half of Queenstown.


That*

Saffa13 is from Graaf Reinette. That is why I asked.


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DraadkarD wrote:
Fangle wrote:
Thzt is half of Queenstown.


That*

Saffa13 is from Graaf Reinette. That is why I asked.


Graaff-Reinet*


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saffer13 wrote:
DraadkarD wrote:
Fangle wrote:
Thzt is half of Queenstown.


That*

Saffa13 is from Graaf Reinette. That is why I asked.


Graaff-Reinet*


:lol:


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Pap Vreters dont have to worry. Its going to be a wet summer lining up. Western Cape have one of the wettest winters in age and its usually followed by a wet summer Inland. Donnerweer is oppad.


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DraadkarD wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
DraadkarD wrote:
Fangle wrote:
Thzt is half of Queenstown.


That*

Saffa13 is from Graaf Reinette. That is why I asked.


Graaff-Reinet*


:lol:


:D


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This thread reminds me of an old joke

One Sunday morning in Bloemfontein this bum was sleeping of his bloutrein babalas under a tree when some towns folk came walking by. The following conversation ensued

Bum: Where are you going?
Town’s folk: To church
Bum: Why
Town’s folk: To pray for rain
Bum: Do you know what the Freestate looks like when it rains

The towns folk cuss at the bum and continue on their why. Sure as daylight that night the heavens opens up over the Freestate and it rains and rains and rains……. After a few weeks of this the same bum sits in the shelter of a bus stop on a wet Sunday morning when the town’s folk passes him again. The following conversation ensued

Bum: Where are you going?
Town’s folk: To church
Bum: Why
Town’s folk: To pray that the rain must stop
Bum: Do you know what the Freestate looks like when the rain stops……………..


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Pap Vreters dont have to worry. Its going to be a wet summer lining up. Western Cape have one of the wettest winters in age and its usually followed by a wet summer Inland. Donnerweer is oppad.


Ons hoop maar so Oom.


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DraadkarD wrote:
OomPB wrote:
Pap Vreters dont have to worry. Its going to be a wet summer lining up. Western Cape have one of the wettest winters in age and its usually followed by a wet summer Inland. Donnerweer is oppad.


Ons hoop maar so Oom.

Jy sal sien. In die goeie dae het die mense hier altyd gepraat van die 7 dae reen. Die jaar was so en dit beteken 'n warm somer vir die Kaap ios oppad wat reen vir die Binneland beteken. Weer het nog nie gedraai nie. Suid Ooster moet hier blaas, dan kry julle reen.


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OomPB wrote:
DraadkarD wrote:
OomPB wrote:
Pap Vreters dont have to worry. Its going to be a wet summer lining up. Western Cape have one of the wettest winters in age and its usually followed by a wet summer Inland. Donnerweer is oppad.


Ons hoop maar so Oom.

Jy sal sien. In die goeie dae het die mense hier altyd gepraat van die 7 dae reen. Die jaar was so en dit beteken 'n warm somer vir die Kaap ios oppad wat reen vir die Binneland beteken. Weer het nog nie gedraai nie. Suid Ooster moet hier blaas, dan kry julle reen.



Die binneland is flippen groot - en as die Vrystaat droog raak is hy taai om te rëen.

Hierbo het maar enkele druppeltjies geval, "paraffienrëen", maar daar is nog tyd. Die Vrystaat moet mielies plant, hul tyd is min .


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