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After the German Army captured large numbers of the PPSh-41 during World War II, a program was instituted to convert the weapon to the standard German submachine gun cartridge – 9×19mm Parabellum. The Wehrmacht officially adopted the converted PPSh-41 as the "MP41(r)"; unconverted PPSh-41s were designated "MP717(r)" and supplied with 7.63×25mm Mauser ammunition (which is dimensionally identical to 7.62×25mm, but slightly less powerful). German-language manuals for the use of captured PPShs were printed and distributed in the Wehrmacht.[16]


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Now that is a lovely rifle.


Spent many a day cleaning and cursing the Canadian version.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:04 pm 
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hornets wrote:
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Now that is a lovely rifle.


Spent many a day cleaning and cursing the Canadian version.


i could still disassemble and reassemble it - blindfolded - in minutes flat


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:26 pm 
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Monk Zombie wrote:
hornets wrote:
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Belfast, 1980.(i.redd.it)




Now that is a lovely rifle.


Spent many a day cleaning and cursing the Canadian version.


i could still disassemble and reassemble it - blindfolded - in minutes flat


minutes.............keep at it old boy.... :D

I loved how you could spend hours cleaning the f**king thing and the instructor or CQ would still find filth.


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Monk Zombie wrote:
hornets wrote:
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Belfast, 1980.(i.redd.it)




Now that is a lovely rifle.


Spent many a day cleaning and cursing the Canadian version.


i could still disassemble and reassemble it - blindfolded - in minutes flat

And the old and bold never tire of telling us ;)


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I heard that it was "too bloody big, but could stop a truck with one shot" ... reasonably true?


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Nieghorn wrote:
I heard that it was "too bloody big, but could stop a truck with one shot" ... reasonably true?


don't think you can just hide behind a tree or a wall


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I heard that it was "too bloody big, but could stop a truck with one shot" ... reasonably true?



It wasn't too big for a conventional battlefield, it was a pain during fibua, but the ability to reach out and touch someone from a significant distance with a large round was useful.


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OptimisticJock wrote:
Monk Zombie wrote:
hornets wrote:
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Belfast, 1980.(i.redd.it)




Now that is a lovely rifle.


Spent many a day cleaning and cursing the Canadian version.


i could still disassemble and reassemble it - blindfolded - in minutes flat

And the old and bold never tire of telling us ;)



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:23 pm 
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R1 (FN FAL) 7.62 NATO was/is a lovely rifle.
Solid and without shit. Infantryman's wife.


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hornets wrote:
Monk Zombie wrote:
hornets wrote:
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Belfast, 1980.(i.redd.it)




Now that is a lovely rifle.


Spent many a day cleaning and cursing the Canadian version.


i could still disassemble and reassemble it - blindfolded - in minutes flat


minutes.............keep at it old boy.... :D

I loved how you could spend hours cleaning the f**king thing and the instructor or CQ would still find filth.

It's been nearly 25 years since I've touched one.

My new b-i-l is serving and on a visit to his mess recently I was challenged to strip one blindfolded. I was a lot slower than before, but you never forget.


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Can still strip her, too. My boy has the civilian model. An avid target shooter/marksman.

Does not beat the Lee Enfield Mk lll for ease of operation, IMHO, though. Cut my teeth on that.


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It's been nearly 25 years since I've touched one.

My new b-i-l is serving and on a visit to his mess recently I was challenged to strip one blindfolded. I was a lot slower than before, but you never forget.



Which military is still using them? There are all mothballed years ago over here.

I remember volunteering to carry the C2 (Bi-pod auto version) one ex during basic. What a f**king idiot I was, between the weight and stupid breast bandoleer........ Every time you went to ground it it dug into your ribs.


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hornets wrote:
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It's been nearly 25 years since I've touched one.

My new b-i-l is serving and on a visit to his mess recently I was challenged to strip one blindfolded. I was a lot slower than before, but you never forget.



Which military is still using them? There are all mothballed years ago over here.

I remember volunteering to carry the C2 (Bi-pod auto version) one ex during basic. What a f**king idiot I was, between the weight and stupid breast bandoleer........ Every time you went to ground it it dug into your ribs.

None. They had a deactivated one in the mess and were taking the piss out of me for being old.

Tbf, he's in the royal logistic corp, so they hardly know which is the dangerous end.


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hornets wrote:
happyhooker wrote:
It's been nearly 25 years since I've touched one.

My new b-i-l is serving and on a visit to his mess recently I was challenged to strip one blindfolded. I was a lot slower than before, but you never forget.



Which military is still using them? There are all mothballed years ago over here.

I remember volunteering to carry the C2 (Bi-pod auto version) one ex during basic. What a f**king idiot I was, between the weight and stupid breast bandoleer........ Every time you went to ground it it dug into your ribs.


You could have at least posed for a Clyde Barrow like photograph (small similarity to the BAR)

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Nieghorn wrote:
hornets wrote:
happyhooker wrote:
It's been nearly 25 years since I've touched one.

My new b-i-l is serving and on a visit to his mess recently I was challenged to strip one blindfolded. I was a lot slower than before, but you never forget.



Which military is still using them? There are all mothballed years ago over here.

I remember volunteering to carry the C2 (Bi-pod auto version) one ex during basic. What a f**king idiot I was, between the weight and stupid breast bandoleer........ Every time you went to ground it it dug into your ribs.


You could have at least posed for a Clyde Barrow like photograph (small similarity to the BAR)

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I did, you just can't see me as I was f**king boss at camo.

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Did anyone else look at this and read in that little boy`s face "I can`t whack him while you`re photographing us" :lol:


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hornets wrote:
Nieghorn wrote:
hornets wrote:
happyhooker wrote:
It's been nearly 25 years since I've touched one.

My new b-i-l is serving and on a visit to his mess recently I was challenged to strip one blindfolded. I was a lot slower than before, but you never forget.



Which military is still using them? There are all mothballed years ago over here.

I remember volunteering to carry the C2 (Bi-pod auto version) one ex during basic. What a f**king idiot I was, between the weight and stupid breast bandoleer........ Every time you went to ground it it dug into your ribs.


You could have at least posed for a Clyde Barrow like photograph (small similarity to the BAR)

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I did, you just can't see me as I was f**king boss at camo.

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not as good as the 4 leopards beside you


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Guess you take what you can get. If there's a good supply of ammo about, and your other option is a bolt action rifle ... ?

Apparently this famous fella is carrying several pieces of American kit (incl. the knife?).

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yeah, looks like a Ka-bar...


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Soldiers, cannon, close enough...

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Soldiers, cannon, close enough...

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Execution by cannon, Shiraz, Iran. 1890s.

Flashman talks of such matters.


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Feck me he's tooled up.


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The V 1 looks like it's been photoshopped on but I'm no expert and I'm going to ignore the possibility it is.


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I thought Spits weren't quick enough, and they used Typhoons to do that?

On another note, do any of you chaps know what guns these are?

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For context, my late half brother (red t shirt) was Australian army and took me out to Graytown (?) when we visited in 1991.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:01 pm 
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Late model spits were faster than typhoons, and tempests faster still. However, like the meteor, the typhoon was very fast in a dive, more so than a spit.

By that stage typhoons were used mostly as fighter bombers in Europe. And I think a meteor performed the first wing flip on a v1 as it’s guns jammed , and jets were at that time forbidden from flying over Europe lest ze Germans get their hands on some wreckage.


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I thought Spits weren't quick enough, and they used Typhoons to do that?

On another note, do any of you chaps know what guns these are?

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For context, my late half brother (red t shirt) was Australian army and took me out to Graytown (?) when we visited in 1991.


FN FAL (or variant) and M60. (And get that booger hook off the bang switch)

See the previous page for discussion on the Spitfire/ V1 stuff, Tempests were the best suited at the time to chase them down, but Spitfires did account for a few.


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Might have been Tempests I was thinking of :thumbup:

Cheers on the gun


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Plastic Sarrie wrote:
I thought Spits weren't quick enough, and they used Typhoons to do that?

On another note, do any of you chaps know what guns these are?

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For context, my late half brother (red t shirt) was Australian army and took me out to Graytown (?) when we visited in 1991.


Lolz @ Prince Harry !


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If you're in Aus in the pics it's probably an L1A1, rather than an FN FAL in the first pic. Same same/ but different. Based on the same weapon.


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Lolz @ Prince Harry !


I resent that :frown:


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Lolz @ Prince Harry !


I resent that :frown:


Apparently my friends' two year old shouted out my name recently when Prince Harry appeared on the telly with his missus.

I'll take it. :blush: :lol:


I wish I'd gotten a pic (it was pre-everyone having camera phones) when I did a tour of the gun vault at the Canadian War Museum. The specialists in charge realised I kinda knew what I was talking about (compared to the other people training to be tour guides who were more interested in 'history' than 'military-'). Took me around showing me all the 'coolest' rare guns they had. Let me hold onto an MG-42 and an StG 44.

It was an amazing cache that's not even visible to the public via a protective window or anything. They then took us to the art restoration lab, which got a lot of 'oohs' and 'ahhs' from the 'history' people, but I just wanted to go back to the weapons vault! :(


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Soldiers, cannon, close enough...

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"The prisoner is generally tied to a gun with the upper part of the small of his back resting against the muzzle. When the gun is fired, his head is seen to go straight up into the air some forty or fifty feet; the arms fly off right and left, high up in the air, and fall at, perhaps, a hundred yards distance; the legs drop to the ground beneath the muzzle of the gun; and the body is literally blown away altogether, not a vestige being seen." : :shock:


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... erans.html

Ignore that it's the mail.


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From the HMCS Rainbow

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Jesus Christ, look at those feet, no wonder they were always swabbing the deck. A little personal hygiene there sailor.


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FN FAL (or variant) and M60. (And get that booger hook off the bang switch)

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Booger Hook and Bang Switch.


Solid contributions.


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Taranaki Snapper wrote:
Soldiers, cannon, close enough...

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Execution by cannon, Shiraz, Iran. 1890s.


"The prisoner is generally tied to a gun with the upper part of the small of his back resting against the muzzle. When the gun is fired, his head is seen to go straight up into the air some forty or fifty feet; the arms fly off right and left, high up in the air, and fall at, perhaps, a hundred yards distance; the legs drop to the ground beneath the muzzle of the gun; and the body is literally blown away altogether, not a vestige being seen." : :shock:


I'd take that any day over a hanging or firing squad. Doubt you'd feel anything.


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