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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 9:50 am 
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Froome had the advantage yesterday that he knew that he had to commit. Dumoulin and Pinot leant on an already blown Reichenbach too much and wasted too much energy trying to get the other two to ride. They would have been better off just ignoring those two and concentrating on chasing. Pinot didn't do a huge amount of work either so it was effectively 2 chasing 1 for most of the time. The amount of Team Sky guys out on the road with bottles and gels was amazing too, one of the commentators said that every available employee was out on course yesterday.

Great ride by Dumoulin too to stay with one of the best climbers in the world on that terrain.

Noticed Pinot getting a bottle from the car on the last climb and within 20km of the finish - I thought that was banned or have they changed that rule? Although if it is just a fine then its worth the penalty anyway

Mick - its often easier to descend on your own as the line choice is your own and the risks are minimised as you don't have to second guess the guys around you and where they will break


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TD was mostly at the head of his group during the decent. He had full choice of line. CF descended like a lunatic. A brave lunatic.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 9:58 am 
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TD was mostly at the head of his group during the decent. He had full choice of line. CF descended like a lunatic. A brave lunatic.



They clearly slowed at times to allow the group to remain intact. Froome's ride was good but the greatest damage was done by the chasing groups poor efforts.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:12 am 
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TD was mostly at the head of his group during the decent. He had full choice of line. CF descended like a lunatic. A brave lunatic.



They clearly slowed at times to allow the group to remain intact. Froome's ride was good but the greatest damage was done by the chasing groups poor efforts.


Yes. It was largely their own fault.

Bennett was just being a cvnt with the Landis quip.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:17 am 
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Mick Mannock wrote:
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TD was mostly at the head of his group during the decent. He had full choice of line. CF descended like a lunatic. A brave lunatic.



They clearly slowed at times to allow the group to remain intact. Froome's ride was good but the greatest damage was done by the chasing groups poor efforts.


Yes. It was largely their own fault.

Bennett was just being a cvnt with the Landis quip.


Tad bit precious there. Simple fact is when your fellow pros start making comments openly about you ... Anyway, just re-watched the last 20km and very impressive.


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Denirostaxidriver wrote:
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BlackMac wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
TD was mostly at the head of his group during the decent. He had full choice of line. CF descended like a lunatic. A brave lunatic.



They clearly slowed at times to allow the group to remain intact. Froome's ride was good but the greatest damage was done by the chasing groups poor efforts.


Yes. It was largely their own fault.

Bennett was just being a cvnt with the Landis quip.


Tad bit precious there. Simple fact is when your fellow pros start making comments openly about you ... Anyway, just re-watched the last 20km and very impressive.


Bennett's team keen to distance themselves
https://twitter.com/LottoJumbo_road/sta ... tor=roadcc

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[i]Former rider and now Fabio Aru's coach Paolo Tiralongo watched Froome's victory on a small television screen in a UAE team car. Aru had finally quit the Giro d'Italia early in the stage after a terrible race.

Tiralongo is under pressure to explain why Aru struggled so much but had no problem with Froome's performance.

"I'm sure his ride will stay in the history of the sport because it came on one of the hardest stages of this year's race after three weeks of racing," Tiralongo said.

"We can only say chapeau because it was a while since we'd seen an attack like that turned the race upside down and give the winner the maglia rosa."

Tiralongo dismissed any comparison to Landis victory in the Tour de France.

"No, this is not like Landis' win. He's Chris Froome, he's not a donkey. He did a ride like Alberto Contador used to do."[
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 11:07 am 
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Denirostaxidriver wrote:
Tad bit precious there. Simple fact is when your fellow pros start making comments openly about you ... Anyway, just re-watched the last 20km and very impressive.

Would Bennet have said the same if it was Alberto Contador or Vincenzo Nibali? I very much doubt it.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 11:32 am 
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Gospel wrote:
Denirostaxidriver wrote:
Tad bit precious there. Simple fact is when your fellow pros start making comments openly about you ... Anyway, just re-watched the last 20km and very impressive.

Would Bennet have said the same if it was Alberto Contador or Vincenzo Nibali? I very much doubt it.


You can actually tell from his voice that he is not sure whether to say it or not and he is uncomfortable as fudge. Goes for it anyway and comes across like a snide wee kid to be honest


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 11:34 am 
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BlackMac wrote:
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Denirostaxidriver wrote:
Tad bit precious there. Simple fact is when your fellow pros start making comments openly about you ... Anyway, just re-watched the last 20km and very impressive.

Would Bennet have said the same if it was Alberto Contador or Vincenzo Nibali? I very much doubt it.


You can actually tell from his voice that he is not sure whether to say it or not and he is uncomfortable as fudge. Goes for it anyway and comes across like a snide wee kid to be honest


You're both being a little precious and digging into it a little bit too much.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 11:41 am 
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BlackMac wrote:
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Denirostaxidriver wrote:
Tad bit precious there. Simple fact is when your fellow pros start making comments openly about you ... Anyway, just re-watched the last 20km and very impressive.

Would Bennet have said the same if it was Alberto Contador or Vincenzo Nibali? I very much doubt it.


You can actually tell from his voice that he is not sure whether to say it or not and he is uncomfortable as fudge. Goes for it anyway and comes across like a snide wee kid to be honest

Miauw. Black taking some hurt onto the thread.


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Gospel wrote:
Denirostaxidriver wrote:
Tad bit precious there. Simple fact is when your fellow pros start making comments openly about you ... Anyway, just re-watched the last 20km and very impressive.

Would Bennet have said the same if it was Alberto Contador or Vincenzo Nibali? I very much doubt it.


You can actually tell from his voice that he is not sure whether to say it or not and he is uncomfortable as fudge. Goes for it anyway and comes across like a snide wee kid to be honest


You're both being a little precious and digging into it a little bit too much.


Nah. I would have had full respect for him if he had just come out and said it " I think the guy's a f**king cheat". That was just half hearted cowardice. I can't be arsed with guys like that.


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He literally did come out and say it :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 11:46 am 
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nardol wrote:
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Gospel wrote:
Denirostaxidriver wrote:
Tad bit precious there. Simple fact is when your fellow pros start making comments openly about you ... Anyway, just re-watched the last 20km and very impressive.

Would Bennet have said the same if it was Alberto Contador or Vincenzo Nibali? I very much doubt it.


You can actually tell from his voice that he is not sure whether to say it or not and he is uncomfortable as fudge. Goes for it anyway and comes across like a snide wee kid to be honest

Miauw. Black taking some hurt onto the thread.


I've said on more than one occassion that Froome should take his lumps. They f**ked up and I don't want them to use a technicality to weasel out of it. Froome should have stood down when the story broke and let the process take its course.

However the real one'd eyed ones are the people that are making it out to be more than it is. Every expert worth their salt has conceded that there is unlikely to be any deliberate performance enhancement involved.


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BlackMac wrote:
nardol wrote:
BlackMac wrote:
Gospel wrote:
Denirostaxidriver wrote:
Tad bit precious there. Simple fact is when your fellow pros start making comments openly about you ... Anyway, just re-watched the last 20km and very impressive.

Would Bennet have said the same if it was Alberto Contador or Vincenzo Nibali? I very much doubt it.


You can actually tell from his voice that he is not sure whether to say it or not and he is uncomfortable as fudge. Goes for it anyway and comes across like a snide wee kid to be honest

Miauw. Black taking some hurt onto the thread.


I've said on more than one occassion that Froome should take his lumps. They f**ked up and I don't want them to use a technicality to weasel out of it. Froome should have stood down when the story broke and let the process take its course.

However the real one'd eyed ones are the people that are making it out to be more than it is. Every expert worth their salt has conceded that there is unlikely to be any deliberate performance enhancement involved.

Fair play.

But it's cycling. There has been sooooo much controversy you have to be cleaner than clean. The fact the most dominant rider since Armstrong appears again not to be squeeky clean is a real real kick in the nuts to fans of the sport.


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Denirostaxidriver wrote:
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TD was mostly at the head of his group during the decent. He had full choice of line. CF descended like a lunatic. A brave lunatic.



They clearly slowed at times to allow the group to remain intact. Froome's ride was good but the greatest damage was done by the chasing groups poor efforts.


Yes. It was largely their own fault.

Bennett was just being a cvnt with the Landis quip.


Tad bit precious there. Simple fact is when your fellow pros start making comments openly about you ... Anyway, just re-watched the last 20km and very impressive.

No problem with what he said. Just shows the quality of the ride


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BlackMac wrote:
nardol wrote:
BlackMac wrote:
Gospel wrote:
Denirostaxidriver wrote:
Tad bit precious there. Simple fact is when your fellow pros start making comments openly about you ... Anyway, just re-watched the last 20km and very impressive.

Would Bennet have said the same if it was Alberto Contador or Vincenzo Nibali? I very much doubt it.


You can actually tell from his voice that he is not sure whether to say it or not and he is uncomfortable as fudge. Goes for it anyway and comes across like a snide wee kid to be honest

Miauw. Black taking some hurt onto the thread.


I've said on more than one occassion that Froome should take his lumps. They f**ked up and I don't want them to use a technicality to weasel out of it. Froome should have stood down when the story broke and let the process take its course.

However the real one'd eyed ones are the people that are making it out to be more than it is. Every expert worth their salt has conceded that there is unlikely to be any deliberate performance enhancement involved.

I'm sure his answer would be that they did not fudge up


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He literally did come out and say it :lol:


If he did, his team would have issued a far more chastising tweet.

Bennett was being a snidey twat. Or being deliberately ambiguous.


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He literally did come out and say it :lol:



Either say something worthwhile or say nothing at all. Something in between just makes you look like a fool.


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Bennett was careless but it was a cheeky throwaway comment, nothing to read too much into or get your panties in a bunch over.

Assuming it wasn't live streamed he may not have assumed they would post it anyway.


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I'm not being precious. I just think that Bennet is playing to the gallery because Froome's an easy target with the Salbutamol case hanging over him. Different rules apply when it's a Contador or Nibali making the big gains. Anyone who actually watched the stage could see that events conspired to give Froome the opportunity to get himself clear and then stay ahead. Team Sky exploded the Peloton leaving a very select group out front, the race leader imploded massively and the chasers failed to work together. Froome made most of his time advantage on the descents whilst the Dumoulin group sat up waiting for Reichenbach. It was a fantastic stage.


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Bennett was careless but it was a cheeky throwaway comment, nothing to read too much into or get your panties in a bunch over.

Assuming it wasn't live streamed he may not have assumed they would post it anyway.


He would have been better off not saying it in that case.

Quote:
“I didn’t say Froomey went out and rode on a bunch of gear and won the stage. I’m just saying he made a bigger comeback than bloody Easter Sunday.”


He does not have a great way with words.

But then why should he?


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first reaction is always the honest one
sad he had to walk that back today, but that's the game i guess


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He literally did come out and say it :lol:


Having just listened to Bennett on Eurosport, he lumps you in with all the social media idiots.


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Pinot looks screwed


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so the likely podium is froome, dumoulin, lopez, just as the bookies predicted at the beginning
another boring as fk grand tour :lol:


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Pinot shitting the bed once again.

This guy is getting so disappointing.


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He literally did come out and say it :lol:


Having just listened to Bennett on Eurosport, he lumps you in with all the social media idiots.


The key word in that little video was not when he referenced Landis (although that was funny) but was actually when he said "Bullshit".

That was a little video spot done when noone else around. That was an honest answer.

It also does not help that he has an ongoing doping case so you can't even defend him there.

Actually have a cycling injury question but might take that over on to the other thread. But anyone with hamstring history and resolutions feel free to throw up any advice. Starting to piss me off.


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Pinot ill by the look of it.


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Pinot shitting the bed once again.

This guy is getting so disappointing.


FFS look at the state of him.

Have some sympathy


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Well done Froome :thumbup:


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In Froome we have The Best There Is, The Best There Was, and I believe I can say this without fear of contradiction.


The Best There Ever Will Be


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You're just baiting the paddies now.


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You're just baiting the paddies now.


Why do you write that? It is not as if they have a claimant


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You're just baiting the paddies now.


Why do you write that? It is not as if they have a claimant

Because any British cycling success tends to get them worked up.


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Surely it's baiting Kenyans?


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You're just baiting the paddies now.


Why do you write that? It is not as if they have a claimant

Eh...


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You're just baiting the paddies now.


Why do you write that? It is not as if they have a claimant

Eh...

Sean Kelly ain't all that


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Some very sad individuals on this thread.

Anyway well done Froome, serious turn around for the ages. Suppose it serves Yates right for chasing the stages and time bonuses. Two spectacular implosions on the MS team.


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Serves Yates right?

Seriously? After you started your post stating there are some sad individuals on here?


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Gospel wrote:
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You're just baiting the paddies now.


Why do you write that? It is not as if they have a claimant

Because any British cycling success tends to get them worked up.


Not all of them. Just the pricks.

They are not all pricks...all of the time.

I do not think anon was serious anyway.

I hope not.


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