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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:54 am 
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On the upside Winston has said he is going Labour again so he is screwed.


Give Ron Mark an uncontested seat a la ACT and we get 2 or 3 MPs. Probably won't need them but we won't fudge them over like National would


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Does Ron Mark have the personality to get the votes Winston would (not that Seymour has any discernible personality and National gave Act a seat)? One way or another I can't see Peters being there next time.


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Totally agree - unless he runs the election and then does a Bill


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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On the upside Winston has said he is going Labour again so he is screwed.


Give Ron Mark an uncontested seat a la ACT and we get 2 or 3 MPs. Probably won't need them but we won't fudge them over like National would


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Does Ron Mark have the personality to get the votes Winston would (not that Seymour has any discernible personality and National gave Act a seat)? One way or another I can't see Peters being there next time.


I think that's Winstons big problem.

I don't think he does.

And Shane Jones has just looked an idiot so far


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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David Slack bang on the money on Bingles' legacy.

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How will we remember Bill? He's proud of how he carried New Zealand through the GFC, and that seems a fair enough proposition if you stand us alongside say the UK and the awful austerity agonies it went through.

It's just a pity he didn't seem to notice or worry enough about the snowballing housing crisis. It had its beginnings in the previous administration, but a little like the genius of compound interest, the longer you do nothing, the bigger it gets.

We have an enormous problem to unwind caused by ordinary houses costing ten and twelve and fifteen times the value of a year's pay in an ordinary job, and so much harm flows from that, it's hard to feel he deserves more than polite country rugby club applause.

A decent chunk of the voting public, will tell you that he...was a highly capable manager and the only one capable of doing it right, which is quite generous praise for a strategy that rested largely on enjoying immigration gains without paying for them.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/350331/farewell-then-bill-english


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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I bet Labour are stoked that Bills retirement took yet another policy backdown off the headlines , they are making a habit of this. I guess charter schools are the next issue they'll about face on. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news ... d=11992814
There's been no backdowns in government. This is a meme generated by government opponents in the blogosphere.

There has been compromise during the process of forming government, the water charge for instance but that was a Labour policy not a government policy.

The foreign buyer clause forcing them to sell within 12 months is odd I'll admit. I get what they're trying to do - that is to have foreign capital build houses and apartments, make their profit, then bugger off so that residents can buy and live in them creating stronger communities. Twyford has admitted it's not right so they are reviewing that part.

The rest is sound though and will help protect future generations from rapacious and sometimes corrupt speculator money distorting the residential property market.


Good lord.

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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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If I was a betting man, I'd bet on Bennett to take the top job.

I reserve the right to change my mind though.


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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If I was a betting man, I'd bet on Bennett to take the top job.

I reserve the right to change my mind though.


I’m not sure although I think they will have a women /man combination pm/deputy

I think Collins will be in there somewhere


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From elsewhere on events today...
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So national have finally conceded the election.

It took them a while.
Headshot. :lol:


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As someone who sees themself as a swing voter but has mainly voted national. I'd be happy to see either pullya benefit or crusher as leader. Those two stand the best chance of damaging taxinda to give Nikki Kaye or someone else a shot in 2023.


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Appointing Collins would be very Machiavellian. But I wonder if there isn't an even more frightening prospect for Jacinda. That's Adams leader, Bennett AND Collins deputies. So a seemingly balanced female leader flanked by two deranged old battle axes. It would clear the decks for the rest of the front benches to get on with making proper policy hits.


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Appointing Collins would be very Machiavellian. But I wonder if there isn't an even more frightening prospect for Jacinda. That's Adams leader, Bennett AND Collins deputies. So a seemingly balanced female leader flanked by two deranged old battle axes. It would clear the decks for the rest of the front benches to get on with making proper policy hits.
Please let this happen. A Canterbury water polluter as leader, with a crook and a bogan as deputies.


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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harvey wilson wrote:
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I bet Labour are stoked that Bills retirement took yet another policy backdown off the headlines , they are making a habit of this. I guess charter schools are the next issue they'll about face on. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news ... d=11992814
There's been no backdowns in government. This is a meme generated by government opponents in the blogosphere.

There has been compromise during the process of forming government, the water charge for instance but that was a Labour policy not a government policy.

The foreign buyer clause forcing them to sell within 12 months is odd I'll admit. I get what they're trying to do - that is to have foreign capital build houses and apartments, make their profit, then bugger off so that residents can buy and live in them creating stronger communities. Twyford has admitted it's not right so they are reviewing that part.

The rest is sound though and will help protect future generations from rapacious and sometimes corrupt speculator money distorting the residential property market.


Good lord.

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Let’s undo this.


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Tehui wrote:
If I was a betting man, I'd bet on Bennett to take the top job.

I reserve the right to change my mind though.


Bennett has no chance, rumours of her losing deputy before this announcement. She won’t get leader


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Collins has come out saying she wants it.

Didn't muck about


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Collins has come out saying she wants it.

Didn't muck about
They tried the nice guy approach - didn't work - now back to naked corruption and the very embodiment of dirty politics.

Will they never learn?


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Thai guy wrote:
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Collins has come out saying she wants it.

Didn't muck about
They tried the nice guy approach - didn't work - now back to naked corruption and the very embodiment of dirty politics.

Will they never learn?


Would be pretty naive to think dirty politics is just Nationals forte


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Sadly dirty politics and plain dumbarseness is common in all parts of the political spectrum


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Kahu wrote:
Sadly dirty politics and plain dumbarseness is common in all parts of the political spectrum


Mirrors the real world to be fair.

Only more exaggerated


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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True to form, Collins wasted no time. Straight off the mark.


I say give it to her. Pure naked ambition should be rewarded. She'll charge the cannons and then do it again to prove the first time was no accident. :o


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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True to form, Collins wasted no time. Straight off the mark.


I say give it to her. Pure naked ambition should be rewarded. She'll charge the cannons and then do it again to prove the first time was no accident. :o


For those of us with a strongly visual imagination, we'd appreciate it if you didn't use the work naked in the context of Judith Collins again.
Thanks in advance,
the visually sensitive.


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merlin the happy pig wrote:
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True to form, Collins wasted no time. Straight off the mark.


I say give it to her. Pure naked ambition should be rewarded. She'll charge the cannons and then do it again to prove the first time was no accident. :o


For those of us with a strongly visual imagination, we'd appreciate it if you didn't use the work naked in the context of Judith Collins again.
Thanks in advance,
the visually sensitive.


She was quite the thot when young.


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Go Chuckie Collins...another Muldoon in drag....


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Go Chuckie Collins...another Muldoon in drag....

Chuckie has a nice ring to it. There is a partly plausible scenario where National has a rabid mouth-foaming attack dog as a leader for the next three years then Adams or someone else takes over when any danger of Labour losing power starts to emerge. Don't want what National had for 8 years - a free ride from a totally useless opposition.

Amazing how quickly National's gone from unbeatable with an outstanding leader and deputy leader plus a slew of very competent Ministers to... jeez have they got any senior talent there at all?


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Go Chuckie Collins...another Muldoon in drag....

Chuckie has a nice ring to it. There is a partly plausible scenario where National has a rabid mouth-foaming attack dog as a leader for the next three years then Adams or someone else takes over when any danger of Labour losing power starts to emerge. Don't want what National had for 8 years - a free ride from a totally useless opposition.

Amazing how quickly National's gone from unbeatable with an outstanding leader and deputy leader plus a slew of very competent Ministers to... jeez have they got any senior talent there at all?
let's just hope our rugby team doesn't follow suit :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Kahu wrote:
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Go Chuckie Collins...another Muldoon in drag....

Chuckie has a nice ring to it. There is a partly plausible scenario where National has a rabid mouth-foaming attack dog as a leader for the next three years then Adams or someone else takes over when any danger of Labour losing power starts to emerge. Don't want what National had for 8 years - a free ride from a totally useless opposition.

Amazing how quickly National's gone from unbeatable with an outstanding leader and deputy leader plus a slew of very competent Ministers to... jeez have they got any senior talent there at all?
let's just hope our rugby team doesn't follow suit :lol:

Like England after '03?


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Watch this space....
You must hear a lot of chat in your job!

I couldn't possibly say.

The thing is that it's actually very easy not indulge in it, and just keep it zipped. Unlike other areas of the Public Service, our unit has never been responsible for a leak, or rumour being started or spread, and are very proud of that fact.


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kiweez wrote:
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You must hear a lot of chat in your job!

I couldn't possibly say.

The thing is that it's actually very easy not indulge in it, and just keep it zipped. Unlike other areas of the Public Service, our unit has never been responsible for a leak, or rumour being started or spread, and are very proud of that fact.



So, not Intelligence Service then. :P


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:lol: :lol: :lol:

That was quality Enzedder


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Amy Adams has thrown her hat in the ring.


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Amy Adams has thrown her hat in the ring.


Excellent...

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would vote :thumbup:


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Amy Adams has thrown her hat in the ring.


Backed by Kaye and Bishop too. She’s the favourite right now.

She’s smoking hot to boot too (thanks Smiley).


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Enzedder wrote:
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Watch this space....
You must hear a lot of chat in your job!

I couldn't possibly say.

The thing is that it's actually very easy not indulge in it, and just keep it zipped. Unlike other areas of the Public Service, our unit has never been responsible for a leak, or rumour being started or spread, and are very proud of that fact.



So, not Intelligence Service then. :P

An old oxymoron if ever there was one!


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Bridges will win.


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Bridges will win.


Who would you rather see win? I'm not trolling , interested in your answer and reasoning.


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merlin the happy pig wrote:
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True to form, Collins wasted no time. Straight off the mark.


I say give it to her. Pure naked ambition should be rewarded. She'll charge the cannons and then do it again to prove the first time was no accident. :o


For those of us with a strongly visual imagination, we'd appreciate it if you didn't use the work naked in the context of Judith Collins again.
Thanks in advance,
the visually sensitive.

:lol: Muldoon in a dress perhaps?


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Auckman wrote:
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True to form, Collins wasted no time. Straight off the mark.


I say give it to her. Pure naked ambition should be rewarded. She'll charge the cannons and then do it again to prove the first time was no accident. :o


For those of us with a strongly visual imagination, we'd appreciate it if you didn't use the work naked in the context of Judith Collins again.
Thanks in advance,
the visually sensitive.

:lol: Muldoon in a dress perhaps?


Can I go blind instead?


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"I love a good fight"

Just the person NZ needs in charge right now - a gun nut.

"Go ahead, make my day" x(


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Ghastly person , and one utterly compromised by her connections with Chinese money.

Surely the Nats can’t be that desperate ?


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That was then.

Now she’s swimming in Botox and bull semen .


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