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Most people who comment on stuff are human trash.Kahu wrote:You didn't see the reaction it got on Stuff huhgrouch wrote:I seriously doubt that it will raise an eyebrow here.guy smiley wrote:That Muffin Break story has stirred up a hornets nest in Aus as well. She’s copping what she deserves. Wage theft is wage theft.
Preach.The ‘Kiwi way of life’ is a low imagination horizon anti intellectualism based on exploitation of confiscated indigenous resources where ignorance & malice is celebrated by the rural volk while middle class attention is engulfed between school rankings & property speculation.
Got it round the wrong way. If you can deem these as upgrades then it’s capital spend, meaning you can add it onto the cost of your property. When you sell, your profit will be lower so you will be taxed on less.Fat Old Git wrote:I think they would be classed as upgrades rather than maintenance so unlikely to able to claim for them. Probably be taxed for them later as they will have added a capital "gain".Wignu wrote:Fairly obvious really, as an owner/occupier you have the choice to install these things and if you don't for whatever reason you are affected by the choice. However as a tenant you don't have the ability to make these improvements and in the past couldn't get a landlord to make these changes and unfortunately due to a lot of shitcvnt landlords out there, you're obviously not one of them, people have been forced to live in substandard housing. And just in case anyone comes up with the 'if you don't like it move' argument that's easier said than done in a lot of places.booji boy wrote:https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12206703
TBF I'm sure my house in Auckland is compliant except for the extractor fan in the kitchen. What makes me laugh is that I lived in the house just fine and dandy for 8 years without all the things I've since added:
Underfloor insulation
Additional ceiling insulation (already had ceiling insulation but deemed not good enough)
Domestic ventilation system
Heat pump
I've also supplied the tenants with a dehumidifier (I always used one as Auckland can be very damp) for use by the tenants if they choose.
Funny how as owner, occupier it's perfectly Ok but if you're letting it out to tenants you are held to a much higher standard.
Were you able to claim back the costs for the insulation, DVS etc in the house?
My personal experience is that I've had tenants that won't use whats provided as it costs them power. One even disabled the switch to the heat lamps and extractor in the bathroom so his kids wouldn't switch it on.
Another didn't seem to use the extractors provided or open any windows over the winter and the claimed it was our fault that the house ended up being damp because we hadn't spent thousands of dollars on a DVS system (although if we had he probably would have complained about power bills as well, given his reaction to the logburner possibly being replaced with a heat pump, but that's another story). Like BB, we used to live in the house and it was never damp despite having significantly less insulation at the time.
We've had some excellent tenants who have looked after the property well, but we're had some "interesting" tenants as well.
It’s an interesting one. Dig deeper and you’ll see most corporates (as well as political parties, universities and charities) offering unpaid internships. And TBF, Muffin Break weren’t looking for unpaid cafe staff; they were talking about corporate placements. Communications, legal etc.guy smiley wrote:That Muffin Break story has stirred up a hornets nest in Aus as well. She’s copping what she deserves. Wage theft is wage theft.
Most of it I have capitalised and I depreciate it as 'chattels' as you can't claim depreciation on the building structure itself anymore. So yes I am claiming it. I don't have a problem with it and I've happily made these improvements before they were made mandatory but as I said, I lived healthy and happily in the house without them for 8 years. So I don't think they are essential to making the house 'fit for purpose'. But as you and others have pointed out it's probably not a bad thing making these things mandatory as some landlords obviously don't want to spend a cent on improvements and their tenants are stuck in cold, damp shitholes.Wignu wrote:Fairly obvious really, as an owner/occupier you have the choice to install these things and if you don't for whatever reason you are affected by the choice. However as a tenant you don't have the ability to make these improvements and in the past couldn't get a landlord to make these changes and unfortunately due to a lot of shitcvnt landlords out there, you're obviously not one of them, people have been forced to live in substandard housing. And just in case anyone comes up with the 'if you don't like it move' argument that's easier said than done in a lot of places.booji boy wrote:https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12206703
TBF I'm sure my house in Auckland is compliant except for the extractor fan in the kitchen. What makes me laugh is that I lived in the house just fine and dandy for 8 years without all the things I've since added:
Underfloor insulation
Additional ceiling insulation (already had ceiling insulation but deemed not good enough)
Domestic ventilation system
Heat pump
I've also supplied the tenants with a dehumidifier (I always used one as Auckland can be very damp) for use by the tenants if they choose.
Funny how as owner, occupier it's perfectly Ok but if you're letting it out to tenants you are held to a much higher standard.
Were you able to claim back the costs for the insulation, DVS etc in the house?
Absolutely. That has been my attitude and so far it seems to have paid off with the tenants I've had. It also makes sense to look after and maintain my investment. It was my old family home for 8 years and I have a sentimental attachment to it. I don't want to let it get run down.Wilderbeast wrote:Sounds like you’re doing a good job booji. Definitely good landlords out there, I’ve had some but it’s been 50/50 I’d say. I’d say it’s actually good business practice to do well by your tenants as they’d be more likely to do well by you, but I have no landlord experience
Agree Wilderbeast, Booji certainly sounds like a good landlord. Have been on both ends of the spectrum and you get arsewipes in both.Wilderbeast wrote:Sounds like you’re doing a good job booji. Definitely good landlords out there, I’ve had some but it’s been 50/50 I’d say. I’d say it’s actually good business practice to do well by your tenants as they’d be more likely to do well by you, but I have no landlord experience
My comment was partly tongue and cheek, but good to know all the same. Although we use an accountant who knows all the ins and outs. So all we really have to do is make sure the information we provide her with is complete and accurate.Wilderbeast wrote:
Got it round the wrong way. If you can deem these as upgrades then it’s capital spend, meaning you can add it onto the cost of your property. When you sell, your profit will be lower so you will be taxed on less.
Property selling price less (property purchase plus capital improvements).
Fat Old Git wrote:My comment was partly tongue and cheek, but good to know all the same. Although we use an accountant who knows all the ins and outs. So all we really have to do is make sure the information we provide her with is complete and accurate.Wilderbeast wrote:
Got it round the wrong way. If you can deem these as upgrades then it’s capital spend, meaning you can add it onto the cost of your property. When you sell, your profit will be lower so you will be taxed on less.
Property selling price less (property purchase plus capital improvements).
And totally agree re it being good business practice to look after your tenants. We've always tried to do that if we can. Within reason anyway. One of our first tenants wanted us to install a much larger hot water cylinder so that she could take advantage of her power companies cheap night rates while still having multiple baths instead of showers. We politely declined that request. She was ok with that. Considered it a nothing ventured nothing gained situation I guess, and overall was good tenant. We did let her redecorate 2 of the bedrooms even though they were in good condition as she wanted a more vibrant colour. She offered to do the painting and we paid for all the materials, although she had actually offered to pay for those as well.
When she came to us with the request I almost jokingly said "sure, as long as it's not a hideous lime green." But I didn't thankfully, as that's exactly what she chose!
Hilarious! We've always used an agent to find tenants as they know how to do all the checks etc, and do it regularly. Whereas we'd only be doing it every few years.booji boy wrote: I have been very lucky and have had excellent tenants over the past ten years. Having said that I have a real estate agency manage the rental and they vet the tenants fairly thoroughly. So far so good.
The lime green comes back to haunt us every time we do anything to those rooms. They've been repainted several times since and yet it still seems to come though at the merest hint of a scratch or a knock. hang up a picture or take a poster down and bang there it is.booji boy wrote:Fat Old Git wrote:
When she came to us with the request I almost jokingly said "sure, as long as it's not a hideous lime green." But I didn't thankfully, as that's exactly what she chose!
No tenant of mine has ever offered to paint the place.
Touch wood, I've been very lucky and never had a bad tenant like the one you described. Plenty of my friends have though. Not a pleasant experience. I had one who struggled with the rent because the rental agency kept wanting to up the rental as the Auckland market went mental. So we froze the rent for a couple of years as he took great care of the place. But eventually he moved on. Living in Taupo it would have been an absolute nightmare trying to manage the place ourselves so we've had an agency looking after the place from the start. As you say, much less stressful plus whenever repairs and maintenance are required they have tradies/handymen on call.Fat Old Git wrote:We've always used an agent to find tenants as they know how to do all the checks etc, and do it regularly. Whereas we'd only be doing it every few years.booji boy wrote: I have been very lucky and have had excellent tenants over the past ten years. Having said that I have a real estate agency manage the rental and they vet the tenants fairly thoroughly. So far so good.
Mostly been lucky with very good tenants until recently. One family, who although they were lovely and looked after the property fairly well, also seemed to have regular money problems meaning they were regularly behind in the rent. We were understanding and gave them plenty of time to catch up, but it's still ended up being quite stressful. Our mortgage etc still had to be paid on time. They moved on to get into a different school zone when one of their children was about to start high school.
The guy who replaced them had great references, but turned out to be completely dishonest. We had go to the tribunal to get him evicted because he just decided he didn't have to pay rent, could have messy pets without even discussing it with us, even though he'd signed a tenancy agreement stating no pets, and was threatening when called on it. We actually wondered if he had mental health issues.
So after many years of good tenants and now have a property manger looking after the place. Much much less stressful!
Fat Old Git wrote:The lime green comes back to haunt us every time we do anything to those rooms. They've been repainted several times since and yet it still seems to come though at the merest hint of a scratch or a knock. hang up a picture or take a poster down and bang there it is.booji boy wrote:Fat Old Git wrote:
When she came to us with the request I almost jokingly said "sure, as long as it's not a hideous lime green." But I didn't thankfully, as that's exactly what she chose!
No tenant of mine has ever offered to paint the place.
so essentially the same as the folk who post hereTehui wrote:Most people who comment on stuff are human trash.Kahu wrote:You didn't see the reaction it got on Stuff huhgrouch wrote:I seriously doubt that it will raise an eyebrow here.guy smiley wrote:That Muffin Break story has stirred up a hornets nest in Aus as well. She’s copping what she deserves. Wage theft is wage theft.
I think there is a sense of community here though and the total nutjobs soon get weeded out. We may disagree on politics and other subjects but rugby is something we have in common and generally most are bloody good blokes despite our differences. You only need to look as far as the depression thread, alcohol thread or other threads where posters are suffering to see this shine through.Kahu wrote:so essentially the same as the folk who post hereTehui wrote:Most people who comment on stuff are human trash.Kahu wrote:You didn't see the reaction it got on Stuff huhgrouch wrote:I seriously doubt that it will raise an eyebrow here.guy smiley wrote:That Muffin Break story has stirred up a hornets nest in Aus as well. She’s copping what she deserves. Wage theft is wage theft.
I'm in the same situation as you - left Dunedin just over 2 years ago but decided to hold onto my house, and within a few days of me leaving, the property management company contacted me to tell me they'd found tenants. They're a retired couple who collect antiques and they've just signed on for another year, which suits me, as they're excellent tenants. I'm very conscious of responding ASAP when maintenance issues come up (ie. the washing machine on/off button stopped working, so I gave the go ahead within a couple of hours for the managers to buy a new one), and I actually met them a few weeks ago when I was down in Dunedin as I'm looking to renovate the kitchen while I have some spare cash. They could talk the hind legs off a donkey but were nice enough all the same.booji boy wrote:Absolutely. That has been my attitude and so far it seems to have paid off with the tenants I've had. It also makes sense to look after and maintain my investment. It was my old family home for 8 years and I have a sentimental attachment to it. I don't want to let it get run down.Wilderbeast wrote:Sounds like you’re doing a good job booji. Definitely good landlords out there, I’ve had some but it’s been 50/50 I’d say. I’d say it’s actually good business practice to do well by your tenants as they’d be more likely to do well by you, but I have no landlord experience
As I think I've mentioned before. I didn't become a landlord because I wanted to own a rental investment. I just thought it was prudent to hang on to my house when I left Auckland in case I decide I want to move back there one day. That was my motivation at the time and I might move back there one day. At least hanging on to it gives me that option.
kiweez wrote:It’s an interesting one. Dig deeper and you’ll see most corporates (as well as political parties, universities and charities) offering unpaid internships. And TBF, Muffin Break weren’t looking for unpaid cafe staff; they were talking about corporate placements. Communications, legal etc.guy smiley wrote:That Muffin Break story has stirred up a hornets nest in Aus as well. She’s copping what she deserves. Wage theft is wage theft.
Wasn’t there something a year or so ago about Labour importing “slave labour” unpaid internships..?
I’m actually all for it myself. As a younger person (many years ago) I did unpaid work experience to give myself some credibility on my CV and a foot in the door.
AgreeEnzedder wrote:kiweez wrote:It’s an interesting one. Dig deeper and you’ll see most corporates (as well as political parties, universities and charities) offering unpaid internships. And TBF, Muffin Break weren’t looking for unpaid cafe staff; they were talking about corporate placements. Communications, legal etc.guy smiley wrote:That Muffin Break story has stirred up a hornets nest in Aus as well. She’s copping what she deserves. Wage theft is wage theft.
Wasn’t there something a year or so ago about Labour importing “slave labour” unpaid internships..?
I’m actually all for it myself. As a younger person (many years ago) I did unpaid work experience to give myself some credibility on my CV and a foot in the door.
Absolutely nothing wrong with internships - so many people get a head start doing those during their studies.
From my experience (Admittedly not vast and a few years ago, though I have spoken to others who agree) internships aren't actually totally unpaid anyway.guy smiley wrote:Genuine internships are ok.
Exploitation in the name of them isn’t. They’ve increasingly been abused in recent years, some kickback is natural.
Richer ?BillW wrote:WTF?Gordon Bennett wrote:This is about compiling income tax returns. Different business. You might call them 'accountants', but professionally it's different.BillW wrote:Eh?Gordon Bennett wrote:Just so that you don't waste your time, accountants won't make hay from this. Tax advisors and financial advisors will. Slightly different training regime.Dark wrote:There are suddenly going to be a lot really really nice, renovated to the max "family homes"
Be a good time to be an accountant. Wonder I can train to be one in 2 years.
Accountants make the $ every time the International Accounting Standards Board (run by 'Big 4' accountants) change the rules on everyone. A different, but similar rort.
Accountants do your accounts.
They have to account for everything.
More paperwork.
More money.
So those people who have done my accounts for years, and have given me tax advice,what should I call them?
Seems an odd place to be taking interns tbf.deadduck wrote:The Muffin Break case in particular is purely exploitative.
If there was a genuine educational opportunity or any sort of exposure to the corporate structure that the "interns" get that might be beneficial to their careers at Muffin Break it would be perceived differently, but the internship seems of little value other than subverting the minimum wage laws for the employer. If the internship is replacing what would otherwise be a paid position, then it's not really an internship is it - if they're doing productive work then they should be paid.
Enzedder wrote:Absolutely nothing wrong with internships - so many people get a head start doing those during their studies.
Mr Mike wrote:Enzedder wrote:Absolutely nothing wrong with internships - so many people get a head start doing those during their studies.
That’s great, Mark Taylor will be buzzin hard about this newsKahu wrote:Golriz Gharaman and the Green Party have lodged a bill and would like to see some changes, such as prisoners being given the right to vote, Māori being allowed to switch rolls whenever instead of every 5 years, ban all overseas donations to parties with more transparency around local donors.Also this bill would reduce the political party threshold to 4%
I agree with these changes except I would like to see the threshold reduced to 1%
Mark's not a Maorimaxbox wrote:That’s great, Mark Taylor will be buzzin hard about this newsKahu wrote:Golriz Gharaman and the Green Party have lodged a bill and would like to see some changes, such as prisoners being given the right to vote, Māori being allowed to switch rolls whenever instead of every 5 years, ban all overseas donations to parties with more transparency around local donors.Also this bill would reduce the political party threshold to 4%
I agree with these changes except I would like to see the threshold reduced to 1%
the first bit mate....Kahu wrote:Golriz Gharaman and the Green Party have lodged a bill and would like to see some changes, such as prisoners being given the right to vote, Māori being allowed to switch rolls whenever instead of every 5 years, ban all overseas donations to parties with more transparency around local donors.Also this bill would reduce the political party threshold to 4%
I agree with these changes except I would like to see the threshold reduced to 1%
Haven't you heard - NZ First and Labour are going to do an ACT/United Future rortDark wrote:Kahu wrote:Golriz Gharaman and the Green Party have lodged a bill and would like to see some changes, such as prisoners being given the right to vote, Māori being allowed to switch rolls whenever instead of every 5 years, ban all overseas donations to parties with more transparency around local donors.Also this bill would reduce the political party threshold to 4%
I agree with these changes except I would like to see the threshold reduced to 1%
All stupid except the 4%
But she only chucked that in because Winston is a dead man walking, and they are looking like they could be
Doubt it would work for them tbf, but good luck.Enzedder wrote:Haven't you heard - NZ First and Labour are going to do an ACT/United Future rortDark wrote:Kahu wrote:Golriz Gharaman and the Green Party have lodged a bill and would like to see some changes, such as prisoners being given the right to vote, Māori being allowed to switch rolls whenever instead of every 5 years, ban all overseas donations to parties with more transparency around local donors.Also this bill would reduce the political party threshold to 4%
I agree with these changes except I would like to see the threshold reduced to 1%
All stupid except the 4%
But she only chucked that in because Winston is a dead man walking, and they are looking like they could be
Electoral reform should be decided by referendum.guy smiley wrote:Kahu wrote:Apparently the Electoral reform commission recommended these changes. Matthew Hooton thinks it's a shady ploy by the CoL to scamper back into parliament next election and wants to see it go to referendum. I don't think his suspicion is misguided but frankly, idgaf