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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:56 am 
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Jacinda pleads to teenagers joining the Labour Party doesn't mean they will automatically be sexually assaulted by lefty weirdos

Dudes name is being unsupressed soon. And it will be very funny watching Jacinda's response

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Jacinda Ardern says Labour is 'not a perfect organisation' in party conference speech

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has opened the annual Labour conference by addressing the problems the party has had with serious allegations in the last two years.

Ardern said the party had not been a perfect organisation and had serious work to do to put its members ahead of any political problems.

"We are not a perfect organisation. This year we have all been on a journey and we have learnt some incredibly "We know we have work to do and we are doing it," she said.lessons," Ardern said at the event in Whanganui.


"We may be a political organisation but that should not be the lens we use to treat our members. People first - politics second."

"We know we have work to do and we are doing it," she said.

The party was rocked by a serious allegation of sexual assault made against a staffer earlier this year. Two reviews - one into the alleged assault and another into the party's response to it - are expected to return in December.

The event was opened with a pōwhiri and address by Whanganui Mayor Hamish McDouall - a cousin of Ardern.

Ardern completed a version of her viral "achievements in two minutes" video during her speech to applause.

Hundreds of Labour members have descended on Whanganui for the three-day annual conference, where the party will elect a new president and is expected to make two major announcements.

During the conference, MP Poto Williams will hold a workshop session titled 'creating a safe and inclusive Party'.

According to the Labour Party, it will focus on how members and electorate groups can keep volunteers in a large organisation involved and motivated, and safe.

The session will identify when things are not safe and how to raise concerns and what to do when something happens.

There will be examples of where electorate groups have put into play best practice.

MPs and party members will also be talking through the new policies and processes that have been implemented by the party after recent events. Those attending will also be told how to identify scenarios and ask questions about this.

This is expected to be the first in a series of discussions about ensuring a positive culture in Labour.



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All the bullshitting is catching
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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Jacinda pleads to teenagers joining the Labour Party doesn't mean they will automatically be sexually assaulted by lefty weirdos

Dudes name is being unsupressed soon. And it will be very funny watching Jacinda's response

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Jacinda Ardern says Labour is 'not a perfect organisation' in party conference speech

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has opened the annual Labour conference by addressing the problems the party has had with serious allegations in the last two years.

Ardern said the party had not been a perfect organisation and had serious work to do to put its members ahead of any political problems.

"We are not a perfect organisation. This year we have all been on a journey and we have learnt some incredibly "We know we have work to do and we are doing it," she said.lessons," Ardern said at the event in Whanganui.


"We may be a political organisation but that should not be the lens we use to treat our members. People first - politics second."

"We know we have work to do and we are doing it," she said.

The party was rocked by a serious allegation of sexual assault made against a staffer earlier this year. Two reviews - one into the alleged assault and another into the party's response to it - are expected to return in December.

The event was opened with a pōwhiri and address by Whanganui Mayor Hamish McDouall - a cousin of Ardern.

Ardern completed a version of her viral "achievements in two minutes" video during her speech to applause.

Hundreds of Labour members have descended on Whanganui for the three-day annual conference, where the party will elect a new president and is expected to make two major announcements.

During the conference, MP Poto Williams will hold a workshop session titled 'creating a safe and inclusive Party'.

According to the Labour Party, it will focus on how members and electorate groups can keep volunteers in a large organisation involved and motivated, and safe.

The session will identify when things are not safe and how to raise concerns and what to do when something happens.

There will be examples of where electorate groups have put into play best practice.

MPs and party members will also be talking through the new policies and processes that have been implemented by the party after recent events. Those attending will also be told how to identify scenarios and ask questions about this.

This is expected to be the first in a series of discussions about ensuring a positive culture in Labour.




Which one of labours sexual assaulters is getting name suppression removed ?

The one at the grooming camp got permanent name suppression , I'm sure the judge being Michael Cullens brother in law and his sister being a former labour mp has nothing at all to do with that decision.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Fraser
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-t ... d=11081952


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:58 am 
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Jacinda pleads to teenagers joining the Labour Party doesn't mean they will automatically be sexually assaulted by lefty weirdos

Dudes name is being unsupressed soon. And it will be very funny watching Jacinda's response

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Jacinda Ardern says Labour is 'not a perfect organisation' in party conference speech

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has opened the annual Labour conference by addressing the problems the party has had with serious allegations in the last two years.

Ardern said the party had not been a perfect organisation and had serious work to do to put its members ahead of any political problems.

"We are not a perfect organisation. This year we have all been on a journey and we have learnt some incredibly "We know we have work to do and we are doing it," she said.lessons," Ardern said at the event in Whanganui.


"We may be a political organisation but that should not be the lens we use to treat our members. People first - politics second."

"We know we have work to do and we are doing it," she said.

The party was rocked by a serious allegation of sexual assault made against a staffer earlier this year. Two reviews - one into the alleged assault and another into the party's response to it - are expected to return in December.

The event was opened with a pōwhiri and address by Whanganui Mayor Hamish McDouall - a cousin of Ardern.

Ardern completed a version of her viral "achievements in two minutes" video during her speech to applause.

Hundreds of Labour members have descended on Whanganui for the three-day annual conference, where the party will elect a new president and is expected to make two major announcements.

During the conference, MP Poto Williams will hold a workshop session titled 'creating a safe and inclusive Party'.

According to the Labour Party, it will focus on how members and electorate groups can keep volunteers in a large organisation involved and motivated, and safe.

The session will identify when things are not safe and how to raise concerns and what to do when something happens.

There will be examples of where electorate groups have put into play best practice.

MPs and party members will also be talking through the new policies and processes that have been implemented by the party after recent events. Those attending will also be told how to identify scenarios and ask questions about this.

This is expected to be the first in a series of discussions about ensuring a positive culture in Labour.




Which one of labours sexual assaulters is getting name suppression removed ?

The one at the grooming camp got permanent name suppression , I'm sure the judge being Michael Cullens brother in law and his sister being a former labour mp has nothing at all to do with that decision.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Fraser
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-t ... d=11081952


Think the Labour MPs kid loses name suppression soon tbf

Just in time to celebrate 37,000 gun owners private addresses being publicly available through the gun buy back.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:10 pm 
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Another poll looks a bit dodge for them

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/117880 ... government


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Weed law for the referendum has been announced.

Sounds pretty good. Age (20) maybe a couple of years a bit too low, but personally will vote yes.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politi ... s-revealed

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How will you vote? Law to legalise personal cannabis revealed

A draft law that could legalise the personal use of cannabis has been unveiled by the Government.

Personal possession of 14 grams of cannabis, the sale of cannabis edibles, and growing up to four cannabis plants per household, could become legal in New Zealand.

The public will now be asked to vote "yes or no" on the Cannabis Legalisation and Control Bill at the 2020 general election. Justice Minister Andrew Little on Tuesday revealed the bill, and a new government website to provide information on both the cannabis and End of Life Choice referendum being held in 2020.

If passed, the cannabis bill would allow cannabis to be consumed, sold, and purchased for recreational use, by people 20 years or older.

"The primary objective of the legislation is to reduce the overall cannabis use and limit the ability for young people to access cannabis," Little said.

Consumption would be restricted to personal homes and licensed premises, which will sell cannabis products of controlled potency.

Licensed cannabis growers will not be allowed to also have a licence to operate retail premises, to prevent any company from dominating the market.

Smoking on the beach will not be allowed, for instance. Online sales will also be illegal.

Home cultivation of two cannabis plants per person will be permitted. But no more than four plants can be grown in a household, regardless of how many people, 20-years or older, live in the home.

A regulatory authority will be created to mange the licensing system and control the potency of products, and it will be expected to work with any law enforcement agencies.

Having a criminal conviction will not prevent a person from having a licence to sell cannabis.

Cannabis possession and purchase will be limited to 14 grams maximum. Cannabis consumers will be able to "socially share" the drug in quantities of the same amount.

Little said he had received advice that 14 grams was the amount a regular user would consume during a week.

Little said the referendum would be binding, meaning a government would have to enact the result of the 2020 vote, however this has been contested.

The referendum will be "indicative", meaning the Government-of-the-day would have to support it through the parliamentary process.

This meant any new Government after the 2020 election could decide to ignore a "yes" vote.

On Tuesday, Little said the first cross-party meeting on the bill would happen later this week.

The Green Party negotiated the referendum during Confidence and Supply Talks to form the Government.

Green Party drug reform spokesperson Chlöe Swarbrick said: "In this proposed law, you'll find a focus on reducing access to young people, on education and increasing support for intervention in problematic use."

National Party leader Simon Bridges has said he would not personally vote for legalisation, and the party would not commit to enacting the outcome of a referendum.


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Well, this cartoon in the Otago Daily Times has certainly created a lot of controversy.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/404 ... ing-review

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Yet another victim of labour’s rape culture talks about how the party threw her under the bus .

https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/05-12- ... -the-news/


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Yet another victim of labour’s rape culture talks about how the party threw her under the bus .

https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/05-12- ... -the-news/

Awkward timing for the creepy left....


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Well, this cartoon in the Otago Daily Times has certainly created a lot of controversy.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/404 ... ing-review

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While i think it was a terrible cartoon all things considered, could someone please point out the racism, all the rags in NZ have been calling it a racist cartoon and i just don't see it


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Yeah I don't see the racism either. Just that "bit early, poor taste" agenda folk get all cut up about.

I found it mildly amusing for topical content, but bordering on the "bit soon" to get away with. Probably no time is a good time to make light of poor kids in poor communities dying off in droves.
I'm a bit desensitised to that clout though.


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I think the cartoon is shit and in poor taste, but not racist

It is shit because it is obviously supposed to be a take on "first world problems" while people are suffering, but you shouldn't have to be a great at cryptic crosswords type person to get a cartoon.

It is poor taste because the subject matter is an incredibly stupid topic to be doing cartoons of.

Maybe next time he can do one about how stupid anti-vaxers are


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jambanja wrote:
Tehui wrote:
Well, this cartoon in the Otago Daily Times has certainly created a lot of controversy.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/404 ... ing-review

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While i think it was a terrible cartoon all things considered, could someone please point out the racism, all the rags in NZ have been calling it a racist cartoon and i just don't see it



There's your problem, the NZ papers are mostly cringy garbage . It's not racist it's just awful .

These are the same papers that applauded this piece of crap too. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12108336
So if I don't like what you say it's perfectly acceptable to call in a bomb threat so your venue cancels? Good to know.


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jambanja wrote:
Tehui wrote:
Well, this cartoon in the Otago Daily Times has certainly created a lot of controversy.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/404 ... ing-review

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While i think it was a terrible cartoon all things considered, could someone please point out the racism, all the rags in NZ have been calling it a racist cartoon and i just don't see it

It's like all those baby in the microwave jokes.
Black humour.


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This is quite funny. Not just for the screw up but because the week was called a week of delivery (by the journalist) and what did they deliver? Policy. They haven't delivered much more than policy in this whole term.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics ... relessness


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This is quite funny. Not just for the screw up but because the week was called a week of delivery (by the journalist) and what did they deliver? Policy. They haven't delivered much more than policy in this whole term.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics ... relessness



Ardern called it the year of delivery actually

Which makes it even funnier


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This is quite funny. Not just for the screw up but because the week was called a week of delivery (by the journalist) and what did they deliver? Policy. They haven't delivered much more than policy in this whole term.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics ... relessness



Ardern called it the year of delivery actually

Which makes it even funnier


I know. Maybe they wanted to cut it down to manageable pieces.


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Decision time on port Monday apparently. Huge, if big. https://twitter.com/Waterfront2029/stat ... 96898?s=19


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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/ ... r-conwoman

https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2019/c ... stitution/

I just read / watched a fascinating news story on fraudster Joanne Harrison and how her offending effectively led to former CEO of Ministry of Transport, Martin Matthews, getting pushed out the door of the new Auditor-General role by MPs in 2017. What a sad state of affairs.


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Tehui wrote:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/117926188/fraudster-joanne-harrisons-hidden-history-the-life-and-crimes-of-a-milliondollar-conwoman

I just read / watched a fascinating news story on fraudster Joanne Harrison and how her offending effectively led to former CEO of Ministry of Transport, Martin Matthews, getting pushed out the door of the new Auditor-General role by MPs in 2017. What a sad state of affairs.


I read that, f**king bizarre. Effectively forcing him to resign or be sacked for "a disability making his position untenable" or some-such, when none existed - But the allegation would have run his career into a wall..

Good to see plastics getting a proper look at. Plastic shit drives me nuts, absolutely everything is coated in plastics. I'm self employed in the garment industry and practically all blank polyester garments come individually wrapped in plastic bags. I throw out 10's of thousands every year, sometimes thousands a month. Plastic bags stuffed full of plastic bags, but it's practically every industry, even fruit and veges are often dished out in plastic.

Nuts barely describes it.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/cli ... or-plastic


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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/117926188/fraudster-joanne-harrisons-hidden-history-the-life-and-crimes-of-a-milliondollar-conwoman

https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2019/c ... stitution/

I just read / watched a fascinating news story on fraudster Joanne Harrison and how her offending effectively led to former CEO of Ministry of Transport, Martin Matthews, getting pushed out the door of the new Auditor-General role by MPs in 2017. What a sad state of affairs.


The only person I warmed to in that was the old bird who flukily discovered the offending. The scary part for me is this is just one of many many white collar criminals in this country.


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They didn’t release the report did they?


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Tehui wrote:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/117926188/fraudster-joanne-harrisons-hidden-history-the-life-and-crimes-of-a-milliondollar-conwoman

I just read / watched a fascinating news story on fraudster Joanne Harrison and how her offending effectively led to former CEO of Ministry of Transport, Martin Matthews, getting pushed out the door of the new Auditor-General role by MPs in 2017. What a sad state of affairs.


I read that, f**king bizarre. Effectively forcing him to resign or be sacked for "a disability making his position untenable" or some-such, when none existed - But the allegation would have run his career into a wall..

Good to see plastics getting a proper look at. Plastic shit drives me nuts, absolutely everything is coated in plastics. I'm self employed in the garment industry and practically all blank polyester garments come individually wrapped in plastic bags. I throw out 10's of thousands every year, sometimes thousands a month. Plastic bags stuffed full of plastic bags, but it's practically every industry, even fruit and veges are often dished out in plastic.

Nuts barely describes it.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/cli ... or-plastic



The part I don't like about this whole plastics bandwagon is the inaction on the part of the national and local government into improving our recycling infrastructure and instead they're just going down the path of banning stuff which both implicates the consumer as the cause of the problem (which they're not) and vilifies the product as inherently bad (plastic isn't). Virtue-signalling types have already started plastic-shaming people for god's sake.


Plastics are still a fantastic product and the problems attached to them are entirely management in nature and their should be a management solution. But that would require actually doing something a little bit hard, so fudge it, let's just ban them instead. Problem solved.


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Tehui wrote:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/117926188/fraudster-joanne-harrisons-hidden-history-the-life-and-crimes-of-a-milliondollar-conwoman

I just read / watched a fascinating news story on fraudster Joanne Harrison and how her offending effectively led to former CEO of Ministry of Transport, Martin Matthews, getting pushed out the door of the new Auditor-General role by MPs in 2017. What a sad state of affairs.


I read that, f**king bizarre. Effectively forcing him to resign or be sacked for "a disability making his position untenable" or some-such, when none existed - But the allegation would have run his career into a wall..

Good to see plastics getting a proper look at. Plastic shit drives me nuts, absolutely everything is coated in plastics. I'm self employed in the garment industry and practically all blank polyester garments come individually wrapped in plastic bags. I throw out 10's of thousands every year, sometimes thousands a month. Plastic bags stuffed full of plastic bags, but it's practically every industry, even fruit and veges are often dished out in plastic.

Nuts barely describes it.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/cli ... or-plastic



The part I don't like about this whole plastics bandwagon is the inaction on the part of the national and local government into improving our recycling infrastructure and instead they're just going down the path of banning stuff which both implicates the consumer as the cause of the problem (which they're not) and vilifies the product as inherently bad (plastic isn't). Virtue-signalling types have already started plastic-shaming people for god's sake.


Plastics are still a fantastic product and the problems attached to them are entirely management in nature and their should be a management solution. But that would require actually doing something a little bit hard, so fudge it, let's just ban them instead. Problem solved.


Recyclable plastics sure, a lot of it isn't though. I thought it was pretty clear there was a global plastic problem and we're not immune to it. Especially silly things mentioned like straws, plastic cutlery, all the one time use throw away crap that just permeates into places it isn't really required.

I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with banning the way items are packaged, or even available to us if there exists a more sensible alternative.


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Tehui wrote:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/117926188/fraudster-joanne-harrisons-hidden-history-the-life-and-crimes-of-a-milliondollar-conwoman

https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2019/c ... stitution/

I just read / watched a fascinating news story on fraudster Joanne Harrison and how her offending effectively led to former CEO of Ministry of Transport, Martin Matthews, getting pushed out the door of the new Auditor-General role by MPs in 2017. What a sad state of affairs.


The thing that annoyed me the most about that was how the use of name suppression had meant that she was really easily able to hide her past indiscretions.


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Tehui wrote:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/117926188/fraudster-joanne-harrisons-hidden-history-the-life-and-crimes-of-a-milliondollar-conwoman

I just read / watched a fascinating news story on fraudster Joanne Harrison and how her offending effectively led to former CEO of Ministry of Transport, Martin Matthews, getting pushed out the door of the new Auditor-General role by MPs in 2017. What a sad state of affairs.


I read that, f**king bizarre. Effectively forcing him to resign or be sacked for "a disability making his position untenable" or some-such, when none existed - But the allegation would have run his career into a wall..

Good to see plastics getting a proper look at. Plastic shit drives me nuts, absolutely everything is coated in plastics. I'm self employed in the garment industry and practically all blank polyester garments come individually wrapped in plastic bags. I throw out 10's of thousands every year, sometimes thousands a month. Plastic bags stuffed full of plastic bags, but it's practically every industry, even fruit and veges are often dished out in plastic.

Nuts barely describes it.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/cli ... or-plastic



The part I don't like about this whole plastics bandwagon is the inaction on the part of the national and local government into improving our recycling infrastructure ...


Totally agree with that. Using open bins for recycling which guarantee in many areas of the country that the recycling is scattered to the winds as soon as its put out. This stuff is easily solvable. Plus, let's have our own recycling infrastructure here (e.g. Flight Plastics?) so we can recycle and reuse here!


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There is no problem with plastics. If it goes in a landfill or is recycled then that is fine. And 99% of it does.

Go after littering if you care about it going into the ecosystem.


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You've got to be joking. Landfills are toxic mountains of shit. I'd sooner we looked at burning our rubbish in the Swedish model. We don't actually recycle either, we just send our plastics to somewhere in SE Asia and pretend it's taken care of.


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You've got to be joking. Landfills are toxic mountains of shit. I'd sooner we looked at burning our rubbish in the Swedish model. We don't actually recycle either, we just send our plastics to somewhere in SE Asia and pretend it's taken care of.


The swedish use a gasification model I think?


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You've got to be joking. Landfills are toxic mountains of shit. I'd sooner we looked at burning our rubbish in the Swedish model. We don't actually recycle either, we just send our plastics to somewhere in SE Asia and pretend it's taken care of.


The swedish use a gasification model I think?


Very high temp incineration...


single use plastics are a curse. The research coming out about how much of it is already in the environment at very small particle level is terrifying. We've f**ked things well and truly.

I've had to buy a bit of household stuff over the last few months... the packaging is f**king ridiculous.


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I have to say I haven't mentioned it, but it is pretty funny Winston strong arming Ardern to move Auckland's port to Northland.

The thing will cost f'***** billions just to drive trucks back to Auckland to drop shit off.


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Jacinda gets a major get outta jail free
card today...it wouldnt suprise me if she releases the two sexpest reports tommorrow .


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There is no problem with plastics. If it goes in a landfill or is recycled then that is fine. And 99% of it does.

Go after littering if you care about it going into the ecosystem.



99 % !!!

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Finland’s new PM >>>>>>>> Jacinda


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I have to say I haven't mentioned it, but it is pretty funny Winston strong arming Ardern to move Auckland's port to Northland.

The thing will cost f'***** billions just to drive trucks back to Auckland to drop shit off.


That's why they're pumping cash into the rail line between Whangarei and Auckland. I personally like the idea, the main transport hub in Auckland is Onehunga/Penrose which happens to have rail running to it. It'll create a lot of work in Whangarei which is needed.

It's really time to scale back trucking our goods around for everything and use rail. I'd also read a while back there could be an enormous transport hub around Palmerston North which would service the lower half of the North Island. Obviously rail can't service every town but making use of it and combining with best road services is good future proofing.

I thought it was a pretty good plan as population grows everything else is going to blow out. It's good someone has a plan seeing we've been let down in the past, Auckland itself is testament to not hearing up for what's ahead of us. If there's any way to lighten the load from Auckland and give the infrastructure a chance to breath I'm all for it.

If it can create employment in the provinces even better. Right now I'm looking for an escape from Auckland and head back to the far north simply because Auckland is getting more and more out of control.


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^^^ rail :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


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Sonny Blount wrote:
There is no problem with plastics. If it goes in a landfill or is recycled then that is fine. And 99% of it does.

Go after littering if you care about it going into the ecosystem.




Yeah cause landfill is infinite .

99 % !!!

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guy smiley wrote:
Fat Old Git wrote:
sonic_attack wrote:
You've got to be joking. Landfills are toxic mountains of shit. I'd sooner we looked at burning our rubbish in the Swedish model. We don't actually recycle either, we just send our plastics to somewhere in SE Asia and pretend it's taken care of.


The swedish use a gasification model I think?


Very high temp incineration...


single use plastics are a curse. The research coming out about how much of it is already in the environment at very small particle level is terrifying. We've f**ked things well and truly.

I've had to buy a bit of household stuff over the last few months... the packaging is f**king ridiculous.


I think the very high temp incineration results in gasification. You essentially get CO2, water and Hydrogen off it, with and metals etc ending up in a waste liquid that you can then potentially extract them from.

Agree re packaging. Frightening how untouched much of the plastic in the landfill that got opened up by the flood on the coast was despite being in the ground for 50 years. And frightening to think how many landfills we have near rivers and the sea.

Bread bags were something most people don't think about. There's no reason why they couldn't be made of a biodegradable alternative. It not as if they have to last very long. And that's just one example.


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guy smiley wrote:
Fat Old Git wrote:
sonic_attack wrote:
You've got to be joking. Landfills are toxic mountains of shit. I'd sooner we looked at burning our rubbish in the Swedish model. We don't actually recycle either, we just send our plastics to somewhere in SE Asia and pretend it's taken care of.


The swedish use a gasification model I think?


Very high temp incineration...


In other words, combusting fossil fuel products. And typically, altho’ not always, not even getting usable energy as a by product.

How about we return to the paper bags and the cellulose-based, resin-based or casein-based biochemicals of our forefathers. Or for the gormless youngsters, fivefathers.


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