Re: NZ Politics Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:35 am
Last election in 2014.Gordon Bennett wrote:He's currently MP for TTT. Took out Hone a couple of elections ago.jambanja wrote:Is Kelvin Davis a list MP?
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Last election in 2014.Gordon Bennett wrote:He's currently MP for TTT. Took out Hone a couple of elections ago.jambanja wrote:Is Kelvin Davis a list MP?
So which electorate did Winston win, was that a different oneGordon Bennett wrote:He's currently MP for TTT. Took out Hone a couple of elections ago.jambanja wrote:Is Kelvin Davis a list MP?
Northland.jambanja wrote:So which electorate did Winston win, was that a different oneGordon Bennett wrote:He's currently MP for TTT. Took out Hone a couple of elections ago.jambanja wrote:Is Kelvin Davis a list MP?
TTT's the Maori electorate; Northland's the general electorate.Thai guy wrote:Northland.jambanja wrote:So which electorate did Winston win, was that a different oneGordon Bennett wrote:He's currently MP for TTT. Took out Hone a couple of elections ago.jambanja wrote:Is Kelvin Davis a list MP?
Agree massive overreaction. So much hysteria on social media about it, every feminist has come out of the woodwork, although one person on Facebook I saw reckons Mark Richardson and Hosking etc are trolling the feminists with this...Jay Cee Gee wrote:If it's something that's within their control that they plan to do?Fat Old Git wrote:
There are lots of reasons why someone, male or female, may be temporarily incapable of doing their job. That's life. It shouldn't be a big factor for consideration when choosing your favorite candidate imho.
I'm not saying her intentions one way or the other would make me more or less likely to actually vote for her, I just think the response to a valid question has been a bit hysterical. It's something that could potentially affect her job performance, why aren't people allowed to ask.
They're not gone. They'll need to be integrated like all the other special character schools happily in operation. This means they are not run for private profit, that the teachers they employ must be registered, and that they teach a certain proportion of the approved curriculum. That is what schools need to do in order to get public funding.TheDocForgotHisLogon wrote:TTT's the Maori electorate; Northland's the general electorate.Thai guy wrote:Northland.jambanja wrote:So which electorate did Winston win, was that a different oneGordon Bennett wrote:He's currently MP for TTT. Took out Hone a couple of elections ago.jambanja wrote:Is Kelvin Davis a list MP?
With Davis the Deputy, I take it the close all charter schools policy is goooooooooooooooooooonnnnne?
Low hanging fruit trolling feminists though isn't it? I think it's more likely Richardson underestimated the Outrage Culture of the Internet Lynch Mob.jamesfreeman wrote:Agree massive overreaction. So much hysteria on social media about it, every feminist has come out of the woodwork, although one person on Facebook I saw reckons Mark Richardson and Hosking etc are trolling the feminists with this...Jay Cee Gee wrote:If it's something that's within their control that they plan to do?Fat Old Git wrote:
There are lots of reasons why someone, male or female, may be temporarily incapable of doing their job. That's life. It shouldn't be a big factor for consideration when choosing your favorite candidate imho.
I'm not saying her intentions one way or the other would make me more or less likely to actually vote for her, I just think the response to a valid question has been a bit hysterical. It's something that could potentially affect her job performance, why aren't people allowed to ask.
An idiot, shock jock like Richardson in stupid comment shocker.eugenius wrote:It was a stupid comment end of ...
Rationalise it all you like.
Don't be surprised if this stance softens quite a bit. The unions hated them and Little was a union man, hence the huge anti stance. Davis, on the other hand, is a fan. He has a favourite in particular in northland. Can't imagine he'd be on board with any policy which makes it harder for the school to succeed.Thai guy wrote:They're not gone. They'll need to be integrated like all the other special character schools happily in operation. This means they are not run for private profit, that the teachers they employ must be registered, and that they teach a certain proportion of the approved curriculum. That is what schools need to do in order to get public funding.
No it wasn'teugenius wrote:It was a stupid comment end of ...
Rationalise it all you like.
Its Eug , if you wanna read back through this fred he has "predicted" the last 2 election wins to Labour .brat wrote:No it wasn'teugenius wrote:It was a stupid comment end of ...
Rationalise it all you like.
She specifically made a statement that she didn't want the pm job as she wanted to start a family
If she makes a statement -be prepared to be called on it -otherwise get out of parliament
If she had said nothing previously then it would've been out of line - but as it was the question was in context
The amazing hypocrisy in this whole situation is that she's getting attention,and as yet totally unwarranted adulation,because she's a female
This is true, although grouch seems to take the prize on this forumHareaway wrote:Its Eug , if you wanna read back through this fred he has "predicted" the last 2 election wins to Labour .brat wrote:No it wasn'teugenius wrote:It was a stupid comment end of ...
Rationalise it all you like.
She specifically made a statement that she didn't want the pm job as she wanted to start a family
If she makes a statement -be prepared to be called on it -otherwise get out of parliament
If she had said nothing previously then it would've been out of line - but as it was the question was in context
The amazing hypocrisy in this whole situation is that she's getting attention,and as yet totally unwarranted adulation,because she's a female
Reply to your dog it has more political intuition
Haha.. and to think we started the whole thingSeneca of the Night wrote:Women are insane, and while I'm personally quite happy for them running for office, as individually many of them have fine qualities well suited to leadership, allowing them to vote is incredibly foolish, as their mass insanity comes to the fore.brat wrote:No it wasn'teugenius wrote:It was a stupid comment end of ...
Rationalise it all you like.
She specifically made a statement that she didn't want the pm job as she wanted to start a family
If she makes a statement -be prepared to be called on it -otherwise get out of parliament
If she had said nothing previously then it would've been out of line - but as it was the question was in context
The amazing hypocrisy in this whole situation is that she's getting attention,and as yet totally unwarranted adulation,because she's a female
As opposed to people like Barclay, who deny deny deny?True Blue wrote:I see Metiria Turei has admitted to breaking the law. Twice.
What a leader. Typical greenie.
What i said is actually a bit tough , Eug fights his corner well . He just gets a bit excitedbrat wrote:This is true, although grouch seems to take the prize on this forumHareaway wrote:Its Eug , if you wanna read back through this fred he has "predicted" the last 2 election wins to Labour .brat wrote:No it wasn'teugenius wrote:It was a stupid comment end of ...
Rationalise it all you like.
She specifically made a statement that she didn't want the pm job as she wanted to start a family
If she makes a statement -be prepared to be called on it -otherwise get out of parliament
If she had said nothing previously then it would've been out of line - but as it was the question was in context
The amazing hypocrisy in this whole situation is that she's getting attention,and as yet totally unwarranted adulation,because she's a female
Reply to your dog it has more political intuition
I wish she had just STFU. The Greens strategists need to be shot. Wilderbeast, you need to roll out Shaw. Get rid of Turei. Replace her with Genter.True Blue wrote:I see Metiria Turei has admitted to breaking the law. Twice.
What a leader. Typical greenie.
He was a 25 year old nobody. She's the leader of her party.Wilderbeast wrote:As opposed to people like Barclay, who deny deny deny?True Blue wrote:I see Metiria Turei has admitted to breaking the law. Twice.
What a leader. Typical greenie.
Fucken oathAuckman wrote:I wish she had just STFU. The Greens strategists need to be shot. Wilderbeast, you need to roll out Shaw. Get rid of Turei. Replace her with Genter.True Blue wrote:I see Metiria Turei has admitted to breaking the law. Twice.
What a leader. Typical greenie.
What Barclay did was off the scales f**king dodgy. He was also a politician when he did it.True Blue wrote:He was a 25 year old nobody. She's the leader of her party.Wilderbeast wrote:As opposed to people like Barclay, who deny deny deny?True Blue wrote:I see Metiria Turei has admitted to breaking the law. Twice.
What a leader. Typical greenie.
Also slightly different on the dodgy scale. He recorded a conversation. She committed benefit fraud and also illegally voted. Slightly worse for a politician to do.....
She should be on her arse but the media is so obsessed over the new LAbour leader and how awesome she is because she has boobs, that nothing will happen
Yup, Eug and Grouch are both good value. There isn't nearly enough respectful, good humoured political disagreement these days.Hareaway wrote:What i said is actually a bit tough , Eug fights his corner well . He just gets a bit excited
I missed that. What's the story? I did see NewsHub smelling blood in the water and going after her by doing some actual investigative journalism... again... and finding that her partner was registered at her address for a year while she was claiming the DPB, and that her mother was one of her flatmates. As a couple of us were speculating further up the thread, this could turn terminal for her down the track.True Blue wrote:He was a 25 year old nobody. She's the leader of her party.Wilderbeast wrote:As opposed to people like Barclay, who deny deny deny?True Blue wrote:I see Metiria Turei has admitted to breaking the law. Twice.
What a leader. Typical greenie.
Also slightly different on the dodgy scale. He recorded a conversation. She committed benefit fraud and also illegally voted. Slightly worse for a politician to do.....
She should be on her arse but the media is so obsessed over the new LAbour leader and how awesome she is because she has boobs, that nothing will happen
That's not 'dorky', it's fraud, again.The Greens co-leader has denied living with her daughter's father when she was illegally collecting a benefit, despite her name being listed on the electoral roll at the same address at the time.
Newshub reported that an official listing of addresses showed Ms Turei listed at the same address as Paul Hartley, in both 1993 and 1994.
Ms Turei said her name was listed at the address so she could vote in the electorate, but that she now realised it was a stupid thing to do.
"That was for the purposes of the electoral roll. I wasn't living in that house. And this will sound really dorky, and I totally understand that, but I put myself on the electoral roll there because at the time, the 1993 election, my best friend was standing for election in that seat, and I wanted to support her."
Saw that. She looked white as a sheet when they confronted her with it.TheDocForgotHisLogon wrote:I missed that. What's the story? I did see NewsHub smelling blood in the water and going after her by doing some actual investigative journalism... again... and finding that her partner was registered at her address for a year while she was claiming the DPB, and that her mother was one of her flatmates. As a couple of us were speculating further up the thread, this could turn terminal for her down the track.True Blue wrote:He was a 25 year old nobody. She's the leader of her party.Wilderbeast wrote:As opposed to people like Barclay, who deny deny deny?True Blue wrote:I see Metiria Turei has admitted to breaking the law. Twice.
What a leader. Typical greenie.
Also slightly different on the dodgy scale. He recorded a conversation. She committed benefit fraud and also illegally voted. Slightly worse for a politician to do.....
She should be on her arse but the media is so obsessed over the new LAbour leader and how awesome she is because she has boobs, that nothing will happen
From the NZHGreen Party co-leader Metiria Turei once enrolled at an address where she did not live so she could vote for a friend.
The MP enrolled at the address where her baby's father lived so she could vote for a friend who was a candidate in Mt Albert in 1993.
An electoral law expert says enrolling to vote at an address you do not live at is an offence.
Turei has also tonight confirmed her mother was a flatmate for part of the period she claimed the benefit in the 1990s.
I know was your mantra last time, and perhaps also the time before, but I expect that you may finally be right (assuming there is leakage from the Nats and not the Greens/NZF/TOP).eugenius wrote:As I've said - this will be a very close one .
Fat Old Git wrote:Isn't that what you said before the last election?eugenius wrote: A close loss this election followed by a landslide the next for Labour and co.
eugenius wrote:On the evidence of this debate Cunliffe will remain as Labours leader.
The election will be close but the Nat's will win.
Key will in all likelihood resign midway through his next term.
God I hope its not Bennett !
Cunliffe to win the next election and remain in power for two terms.
Funny that they won't investigate Fat Paula though eh?TheDocForgotHisLogon wrote:I missed that. What's the story? I did see NewsHub smelling blood in the water and going after her by doing some actual investigative journalism... again... and finding that her partner was registered at her address for a year while she was claiming the DPB, and that her mother was one of her flatmates. As a couple of us were speculating further up the thread, this could turn terminal for her down the track.True Blue wrote:He was a 25 year old nobody. She's the leader of her party.Wilderbeast wrote:As opposed to people like Barclay, who deny deny deny?True Blue wrote:I see Metiria Turei has admitted to breaking the law. Twice.
What a leader. Typical greenie.
Also slightly different on the dodgy scale. He recorded a conversation. She committed benefit fraud and also illegally voted. Slightly worse for a politician to do.....
She should be on her arse but the media is so obsessed over the new LAbour leader and how awesome she is because she has boobs, that nothing will happen
I fail to see how she gains points for anything, condoning illegal activity is quite simply puzzling, she only owned it because she thought, quite stupidly, that she could gain politically from it and it has backfired spectacularly.Wilderbeast wrote:What Barclay did was off the scales f**king dodgy. He was also a politician when he did it.True Blue wrote:He was a 25 year old nobody. She's the leader of her party.Wilderbeast wrote:As opposed to people like Barclay, who deny deny deny?True Blue wrote:I see Metiria Turei has admitted to breaking the law. Twice.
What a leader. Typical greenie.
Also slightly different on the dodgy scale. He recorded a conversation. She committed benefit fraud and also illegally voted. Slightly worse for a politician to do.....
She should be on her arse but the media is so obsessed over the new LAbour leader and how awesome she is because she has boobs, that nothing will happen
For the record, I'm not pleased with Turei's announcement but all parties have their illegal baggage. Turei gains points for owning it. She loses them all and then some for being completely unrepentant.
eugenius wrote:As I've said - this will be a very close one .
Interestingly a friend of mine was doing door knocking for Duncan Webb the labour candidate for ChCh central ( She's a Greenie ) and said that many of the serious National supporters in Merivale really liked Arden !
http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2017 ... s.html?m=1
Once again I find myself agreeing with Trotter .
Why has she done something illegalEnzedder wrote:Funny that they won't investigate Fat Paula though eh?TheDocForgotHisLogon wrote:I missed that. What's the story? I did see NewsHub smelling blood in the water and going after her by doing some actual investigative journalism... again... and finding that her partner was registered at her address for a year while she was claiming the DPB, and that her mother was one of her flatmates. As a couple of us were speculating further up the thread, this could turn terminal for her down the track.True Blue wrote:He was a 25 year old nobody. She's the leader of her party.Wilderbeast wrote:As opposed to people like Barclay, who deny deny deny?True Blue wrote:I see Metiria Turei has admitted to breaking the law. Twice.
What a leader. Typical greenie.
Also slightly different on the dodgy scale. He recorded a conversation. She committed benefit fraud and also illegally voted. Slightly worse for a politician to do.....
She should be on her arse but the media is so obsessed over the new LAbour leader and how awesome she is because she has boobs, that nothing will happen
She voted on behalf of someone else as well as herself, ie twice, not nothing at allThai guy wrote:I don't think she was specifically thinking about political gain. Why do some people automatically think that anything and everything a politician does is about their own personal gain. Why can't it be that she was fighting for the most vulnerable people in the country who are struggling under a broken and vindictive system?
As for voter fraud, that is nothing. Just the Greens' enemies searching for something else to stick. It's been noted Bill English votes in Southland but his primary residence is in Wellington.