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I've seen a few comments that in Josh McDaniels (Pats OC) vs Wade Phillips (Rams DC) there should only be one winner.

Phillips builds great defences, just tends to run them the same way all the time.
The Pats scheme on a game by game basis and will expect to pick it apart.

goeagles wrote:

village wrote:Interesting story from the betting markets that the main odds setter's model told him to set the line as Rams by 3 points. His gut told him he couldn't do that so he set it at Rams by 1 point and as soon as the book opened, the flow of money drove it to Pats by 3 points.

Similarly listening to Brian Bilick (Ravens Superbowl coach) he said when he looks in detail at the match ups over the field he thinks they clearly favour the Rams but if he had to put money on the game he's betting Patriots all the way. Can't disagree.

I'm only aware of the line moving to 3 at the squarest of square shops (Bovada and SportsInteraction). It's only moved to 2.5 at anywhere where you can get down real money, online or in Vegas. For the record, moving from 2.5 to 3 is a bigger move than from 1 to 2.5.

Edit to add that I saw Rams -2.5 early at BetOnline. It was a hypothetical line that was up in the midst of the Pats-Chiefs game, being no action if the Chiefs came back and won. Moved pretty quickly to Pats.

New England in gambling terms are one of the public teams in the league where their fanbase drives the odds their direction. Dallas, Green Bay, and I think Pittsburgh are others.

Flyin Ryan wrote:

goeagles wrote:

village wrote:Interesting story from the betting markets that the main odds setter's model told him to set the line as Rams by 3 points. His gut told him he couldn't do that so he set it at Rams by 1 point and as soon as the book opened, the flow of money drove it to Pats by 3 points.

Similarly listening to Brian Bilick (Ravens Superbowl coach) he said when he looks in detail at the match ups over the field he thinks they clearly favour the Rams but if he had to put money on the game he's betting Patriots all the way. Can't disagree.

I'm only aware of the line moving to 3 at the squarest of square shops (Bovada and SportsInteraction). It's only moved to 2.5 at anywhere where you can get down real money, online or in Vegas. For the record, moving from 2.5 to 3 is a bigger move than from 1 to 2.5.

Edit to add that I saw Rams -2.5 early at BetOnline. It was a hypothetical line that was up in the midst of the Pats-Chiefs game, being no action if the Chiefs came back and won. Moved pretty quickly to Pats.

New England in gambling terms are one of the public teams in the league where their fanbase drives the odds their direction. Dallas, Green Bay, and I think Pittsburgh are others.

Plus they win and cover quite often in the playoffs - SB is more dicey. Brady over Goff is the key matchup for me and Brady wins hands down.

NE are playing their bets football now and rounding into serious form so they are my bet.

Do a thread

EverReady wrote:

Bowens wrote:Do a thread

Did it there you lazy cünt. Anything else you want like a foot rub?

Maybe an omelette. Thanks.

New AAF league about to kick off. Atlanta vs Orlando the first game. Three OSU players on Atlanta.

Interesting. I wonder what the general opinion is in the States?

Sydvicious wrote:Interesting. I wonder what the general opinion is in the States?

This hit went viral: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gySt_KwRnzI

People seem to like that it didn’t draw a flag. Almost certainly would have in NFL.

Apparently it beat the NBA in TV ratings yesterday. Houston vs OKC is a good NBA game too.

https://mobile.twitter.com/darrenrovell ... 5437066246

Watched the highlights of the opening games and it was quite good actually. Having read a bit into it I actually think people will welcome it. It's not competing with the NFL, it's basically like a supplement.

Yeah watching the game on now. Christian Hackenburg still sucks. The QB for Birmingham is good though. Didn’t even play in high school apparently.

Link?

Just ended. Birmingham kicked ass.

Last game of opening weekend starts in an hour https://www.vipbox.live/salt-lake-stall ... ots-1-live

I just watched a promo doc on it. So, it seems like it's all about gambling, they control all the teams and players....hmm. Or is it just fantasy football?

Bowens wrote:Apparently it beat the NBA in TV ratings yesterday. Houston vs OKC is a good NBA game too.

https://mobile.twitter.com/darrenrovell ... 5437066246

Both lost out to a re-run of AGT apparently

paddyor wrote:I just watched a promo doc on it. So, it seems like it's all about gambling, they control all the teams and players....hmm. Or is it just fantasy football?

NFL developmental league like Syd said above. They’re looking for a place to finetune QB and OL.

I was just reading more about the B’ham QB Luis Perez. Learned to play QB from watching YouTube videos. Nuts. He looked good, will be in the NFL next year I think.

No 1 pt conversion is interesting.

Commentators are terrible. Feel like they're gonna try and sell me diet pills or some shit.

Bowens wrote:

paddyor wrote:I just watched a promo doc on it. So, it seems like it's all about gambling, they control all the teams and players....hmm. Or is it just fantasy football?

NFL developmental league like Syd said above. They’re looking for a place to finetune QB and OL.

I was just reading more about the B’ham QB Luis Perez. Learned to play QB from watching YouTube videos. Nuts. He looked good, will be in the NFL next year I think.

They just put up a stat that 81% of the players in this league were signed at some point to an NFL contract. Given the massive amount of football talent in the US going to waste post high school/college/short NFL careers, it makes sense even if just a development league.

That's the case for the XFL as well which will be going head to head with this next year by the looks of things.

Are the NFL invested in the AAF at all? I only noticed now it's being shown on NFL Network!

paddyor wrote:No 1 pt conversion is interesting.

That and limited ads are the best part IMO.

LeinsterLion wrote:Are the NFL invested in the AAF at all? I only noticed now it's being shown on NFL Network!

Not yet. This explains where it could be headed
https://sports.yahoo.com/relationship-b ... 01424.html

Bowens wrote:

LeinsterLion wrote:Are the NFL invested in the AAF at all? I only noticed now it's being shown on NFL Network!

Not yet. This explains where it could be headed
https://sports.yahoo.com/relationship-b ... 01424.html

The UFL always aimed to have an established minor league relationship with the NFL, and it never happened. Same reason that what the NFL wanted NFL Europe to become never occurred because coaches if they had a developmental interest in a player wanted the player on their roster to learn the system, not on a different team under different coaches.

The guy running this league is Dick Ebersol's son. The elder Ebersol ran sports at NBC forever.

Memphis. Birmingham. Orlando. San Antonio.

I feel like these cities feature in every minor league football attempt ever.

Watching some of Salt Lake Stallions-Arizona Hotshots now. I like that they highlight local connections. 17 guys on Salt Lake for example from Utah colleges.

Flyin Ryan wrote:Memphis. Birmingham. Orlando. San Antonio.

I feel like these cities feature in every minor league football attempt ever.

Watching some of Salt Lake Stallions-Arizona Hotshots now. I like that they highlight local connections. 17 guys on Salt Lake for example from Utah colleges.

Teams have 52 players on each roster, with some selected by a territorial draft.[18] The territory assigned to a team consists of at least five colleges plus designated professional teams, one Canadian Football League, and four NFL teams (players from colleges outside the AAF footprint being allocated based on their most recent professional team).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_ ... n_Football

Bowens wrote:

LeinsterLion wrote:Are the NFL invested in the AAF at all? I only noticed now it's being shown on NFL Network!

Not yet. This explains where it could be headed
https://sports.yahoo.com/relationship-b ... 01424.html

Thanks. Interesting seeing what cooperation/connection there is already

LeinsterLion wrote:

Flyin Ryan wrote:Memphis. Birmingham. Orlando. San Antonio.

I feel like these cities feature in every minor league football attempt ever.

Watching some of Salt Lake Stallions-Arizona Hotshots now. I like that they highlight local connections. 17 guys on Salt Lake for example from Utah colleges.

Teams have 52 players on each roster, with some selected by a territorial draft.[18] The territory assigned to a team consists of at least five colleges plus designated professional teams, one Canadian Football League, and four NFL teams (players from colleges outside the AAF footprint being allocated based on their most recent professional team).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_ ... n_Football

I found that interesting as well. It makes people more invested in a team if they know there is home grown talent, especially if it's a new organisation.

Yeah, although it has limits on how far you can implement it. There are a grand total of 2 Division I-A football teams in the 6 states that make up the region of New England for instance. In contrast, such a system would be spectacular news for the 3 Florida NFL teams, Atlanta, and Dallas and Houston. Most egregious one would be the NHL. Toronto and Montreal would win the Stanley Cup every year.

So the no kickoff being replaced by a 4th and 12, you're only allowed to go for it on 4th and 12 if you're down by 17 or more points, or it's the last 5 minutes of a game. That shows me administrators (at least in this league if not the NFL) are scared of what I thought I'd do in that situation, just go for it in shootouts and deny the other team the opportunity to have the offense take the field. Pretty much the only reason we still have kickoffs now is the onside kick because no onside kick opportunity kills more games dead sooner, but this is still a flawed alternative if you have that level of restrictions on it.

Flyin Ryan wrote:So the no kickoff being replaced by a 4th and 12, you're only allowed to go for it on 4th and 12 if you're down by 17 or more points, or it's the last 5 minutes of a game. That shows me administrators (at least in this league if not the NFL) are scared of what I thought I'd do in that situation, just go for it in shootouts and deny the other team the opportunity to have the offense take the field. Pretty much the only reason we still have kickoffs now is the onside kick because no onside kick opportunity kills more games dead sooner, but this is still a flawed alternative if you have that level of restrictions on it.

Why 4th and 12? That would just result in a punt and then you might just as well do a kick off?

Sydvicious wrote:

Flyin Ryan wrote:So the no kickoff being replaced by a 4th and 12, you're only allowed to go for it on 4th and 12 if you're down by 17 or more points, or it's the last 5 minutes of a game. That shows me administrators (at least in this league if not the NFL) are scared of what I thought I'd do in that situation, just go for it in shootouts and deny the other team the opportunity to have the offense take the field. Pretty much the only reason we still have kickoffs now is the onside kick because no onside kick opportunity kills more games dead sooner, but this is still a flawed alternative if you have that level of restrictions on it.

Why 4th and 12? That would just result in a punt and then you might just as well do a kick off?

your choice is either a 4th and 12 from your own 28 or the other team automatically gets the ball at their 25

Flyin Ryan wrote:

Sydvicious wrote:

Flyin Ryan wrote:So the no kickoff being replaced by a 4th and 12, you're only allowed to go for it on 4th and 12 if you're down by 17 or more points, or it's the last 5 minutes of a game. That shows me administrators (at least in this league if not the NFL) are scared of what I thought I'd do in that situation, just go for it in shootouts and deny the other team the opportunity to have the offense take the field. Pretty much the only reason we still have kickoffs now is the onside kick because no onside kick opportunity kills more games dead sooner, but this is still a flawed alternative if you have that level of restrictions on it.

Why 4th and 12? That would just result in a punt and then you might just as well do a kick off?

your choice is either a 4th and 12 from your own 28 or the other team automatically gets the ball at their 25

except when there's a "r" in the month...

Flacco? Really?

Maybe the Broncos are looking for a bridge QB until someone they like shows up in the draft. I don’t think this year’s class is great.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ap- ... ocid=ientp

AAF had a conversation with Kaepernick.

Kaepernick asked for $20 million.

Tim Tebow Land, where you're a star without being that good a player, so you don't want to play in the lesser leagues (CFL, now AAF) in order to not confirm "yes, I'm not that good a player".

Patriots owner busted in Jupiter, FL for soliciting prostitution.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/02/22/new ... ution.html

Every NFL fanbase outside of New England right now:

Bowens wrote:Patriots owner busted in Jupiter, FL for soliciting prostitution.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/02/22/new ... ution.html

Every NFL fanbase outside of New England right now:

You would think he'd e paranoid about getting caught on hidden camera and would never use a pros place 4

Bowens wrote:Patriots owner busted in Jupiter, FL for soliciting prostitution.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/02/22/new ... ution.html

Every NFL fanbase outside of New England right now:

Well, not Washington's ay? Can't think of a more abhorrent person in the NFL, even Skins fans detest him.

Bowens wrote:Rosen isn’t going to make it in this league. Card should draft another QB, like the Browns did the year after taking Kizer.

This is from Dec 18. Just remember if the Cards deal Rosen and draft a QB #1 I was the first person to call it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BRZnL_XsEFI

Jason Witten must have lost his job as a pundit because apparently he’s coming out of retirement for the Cowboys.