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paddyor wrote:Jason Witten must have lost his job as a pundit because apparently he’s coming out of retirement for the Cowboys.

Thank fudge for that, the mush-mouthed wit kant. Really was the anti-Romo when it came to punditry.

Kyler Murray isn't quite as much of a short-arse as many people were expecting.
Just over 5'10" (slightly taller than Russell Wilson).

And the Jets are looking to trade out of #3 pick, possibly the Raiders out of #4.
Cardinals could piss off a lot of teams if they draft Murray.

There seems to be a real possibility that the Jaguars could sign Foles for a year or two and also draft Murray or Haskins. What a time to be alive, can’t wait to see how it blows up in our faces

Could do a lot worse than signing Foles.

Murray will be off the board by the time Jags pick.

There’s been a bunch of [unverified Twitter] rumours that the Jaguars front office is all in on Haskins and will do what they need to to move up for him

People around the NFL believe “almost universally” the Cardinals will draft Kyler Murray with the No. 1 pick

https://mobile.twitter.com/BleacherRepo ... 0958096384

Stevus55 wrote:There’s been a bunch of [unverified Twitter] rumours that the Jaguars front office is all in on Haskins and will do what they need to to move up for him

Haskins ran a 5.0 40 today. That’s slower than Eli Manning. Want him to do well being an OSU guy but idk.

Due to "shiny new toy syndrome" there's going to be a lot of very good defensive players dropping to the middle / bottom of the first round - so looking good for teams who are already playoff contenders.

Expecting Kyler Murray to go #1 to the Cardinals.
Despite his slow 40 time, Haskins will go early.

A couple of the WRs really impressed with their numbers and physical appearance - esp DK Metcalf.
And the never ending rock/paper/scissors evolution of the game means TEs are back in fashion - and there are several very good prospects this year.


Antonio Brown appear to be looking at trade options with the Cardinals, Redskins, Raiders and maybe Jets.
Might be tough for Pittsburg to get a 1st rounder for him.

Personally, I'd rather spend the money on Le'von Bell...

Raiders apparently looking for trade offers for Derek Carr at the Combine.
While I can understand the idea that we could get a better QB than Carr, I just happen to think we have higer priorities.
Like: Right Tackle, Tight End (if Cook walks), Running Back, 2 x Wide Receivers, Defensive Tackle, 2 x Edge Rusher, 2 x Line Backers, Slot CB & Safety.
Apart from that, we're fine. Oh, and a Punter who can kick it past where the ball was originally snapped from.







Another season of suck...

Yer Man wrote:Raiders apparently looking for trade offers for Derek Carr at the Combine.
While I can understand the idea that we could get a better QB than Carr, I just happen to think we have higer priorities.
Like: Right Tackle, Tight End (if Cook walks), Running Back, 2 x Wide Receivers, Defensive Tackle, 2 x Edge Rusher, 2 x Line Backers, Slot CB & Safety.
Apart from that, we're fine. Oh, and a Punter who can kick it past where the ball was originally snapped from.







Another season of suck...

Getting rid of Carr would be a good move. He's way overpaid for what he can provide. Then go sign a place holder and draft somebody better.

Yer Man wrote:Due to "shiny new toy syndrome" there's going to be a lot of very good defensive players dropping to the middle / bottom of the first round - so looking good for teams who are already playoff contenders.

Expecting Kyler Murray to go #1 to the Cardinals.
Despite his slow 40 time, Haskins will go early.

A couple of the WRs really impressed with their numbers and physical appearance - esp DK Metcalf.
And the never ending rock/paper/scissors evolution of the game means TEs are back in fashion - and there are several very good prospects this year.


Antonio Brown appear to be looking at trade options with the Cardinals, Redskins, Raiders and maybe Jets.
Might be tough for Pittsburg to get a 1st rounder for him.

Personally, I'd rather spend the money on Le'von Bell...

I wouldn't be taking Metcalf early. He is fast, but runs very few routes.

Fant and Hockenson looked very good.

AB is a Raider - for a 3rd and a 5th.

Not sure I like it - because I still would have rather paid Mack - but I'm happy for the Oakland fans that get something to cheer about next season.

Also, the Steelers have over 21m in dead money now, so that's good for a laugh!

EDIT: Per Schefter, Raiders are adding money to Antonio Brown’s deal: He now will have three years worth $50.125 million - with incentives to go to $54.125 million, per source. Where there was no guaranteed money there’s now $30.125 million guaranteed, per source.

Marshall Banana wrote:AB is a Raider - for a 3rd and a 5th.

Not sure I like it - because I still would have rather paid Mack - but I'm happy for the Oakland fans that get something to cheer about next season.

Also, the Steelers have over 21m in dead money now, so that's good for a laugh!

EDIT: Per Schefter, Raiders are adding money to Antonio Brown’s deal: He now will have three years worth $50.125 million - with incentives to go to $54.125 million, per source. Where there was no guaranteed money there’s now $30.125 million guaranteed, per source.

It's basically 2 years of elite WR at about $35M (at which point we start to re-sign those players from Gruden's first draft).
For a 3rd and a 5th round pick.

So, we've traded:
Amari Cooper, a 3rd rounder and a 5th rounder (plus a wasted season) for Antonio Brown and a first rounder.
At less money that it would have cost to extend Cooper (whose agent would have been wanting something approaching OBJ's 5 year, $90M with $60M guaranteed).


I, personally, wouldn't have made this deal - a lot of money on a single player when we could have gone after a Safety, Linebacker, Defensive Lineman, Right Tackle, Wide Receiver and retained Jared Cook - and then targeted an Edge Rusher, slot Corner, and additional LB and WR in the first two rounds of the draft.
However, for the price we actually paid - it's a feckin' steal

Pittsburgh got robbed, thev're paid $20M to let AB walk, will only get a 3rd round compensatory pick for Bell (in 2020).
The Mack and Cooper trades don't look quite so bad now.

The shape of things to come?
It you can't or won't pay big money to extend superstars then it's better to trade them early rather than see them walk.
Of course, actually paying your key players should be plan A...


Mack still hurts

He’s 31 next year. Given that and his attitude, I’m not sure much more was going to be on offer.

I'm all for players getting paid, but Brown just seems like a dick.

Foles signs with the Jags - 4/88m. 50m guaranteed.

Best of luck to him.

Oh no, the BOAT is over!

Bowens wrote:

People around the NFL believe “almost universally” the Cardinals will draft Kyler Murray with the No. 1 pick

https://mobile.twitter.com/BleacherRepo ... 0958096384

So, Rosen traded to Patriots for their 32nd pick...?

Cards just signed Terrell Suggs, could mean no Bosa #1...

Marshall Banana wrote:Foles signs with the Jags - 4/88m. 50m guaranteed.

Best of luck to him.

Good signing. They will probably be most improved next year, over Niners.

It’s, eh, a lot of money. Hoping he goes well by I’m not overly thrilled.

Bowens wrote:Cards just signed Terrell Suggs, could mean no Bosa #1...

They're taking Kyler Murray.
Bosa to the Niners

Hopefully the Jets do something stupid and the Raiders can pick up Quinnen Williams (we're getting our stupid out of the way today - $16M for the Pats Left Tackle).

I think you’re right.

Free Agency signings so far...

http://www.espn.co.uk/nfl/story/_/id/26 ... gning-move

Pats are gonna clean up... again

Mathieu to the Chiefs I like. They have to be favorites next year.

DEsean Jackson to Eagles

Baltimore getting stripped bare on Defense

ILB - CJ Mosley goonnee to the Jets @ $85M for 5 years
OLB - ZaDariun Smith to the Packers @ $66M for 4 years
OLB - Terrell Suggs to Arizona @ $7M for 1 year
FS - Eric Weddle to LA Rams @ $10.5M for 2 years
WR - John Brown to Buffalo @ $27M for 3 years

On the other hand... they've just signed Le'Veon Bell

Steelers fans now on suicide watch?

OBJ

vintage_cox wrote: OBJ

F'ckin Cleveland - LOL
Take that OBJ

Damn.

Who saw that coming?!

Is this to encourage Eli to retire or what?

OBJ post from yesterday: "Often times in my life I found myself worryin about tomorrow or my future instead of livin in every single moment. So, I just wanna take a moment to thank God for where I’m at Today because tomorrow’s never promised. I’m just grateful for the opportunity he’s given me so far and even more thankful for whereever he’s takin me! I’m followin your lead... LUV"

A lesson there for young folk - life might be going great, happy with where you're at, everything cruisey... but if you stop worrying about tomorrow for just a moment... *BOOM* you're in Cleveland motherfucker!

Hard to work out any real clear cut "winner" in that deal.

If he re-works his deal, then probably the Browns - at the moment it's a 1st rounder, 3rd rounder and Peppers for a 2 year rental of OBJ (he can opt out prior to 2021). If they give him more money and convince him to commit for longer, then it's reasonable.

Giants may have gotten more elsewhere. Not exactly much to excite anyone about their team without OBJ.

OBJ - moving to Cleveland.

Eli - probably wishes he was moving to Cleveland too.

It's rather sad that the Raiders apparently have enough cap space to look at more big contracts in free agency, but don't have enough actual cash to get anything more done.

Probably have to look at older players who are willing to sign 1 year deals. Maybe Suh?

Cleveland has good spots. It’s not NYC but I would rather live there than some other NFL markets.

Bowens wrote:Cleveland has good spots. It’s not NYC but I would rather live there than some other NFL markets.

Like yoursef, I have travelled extensively around the states, and been to Cleveland many times.

Worse spots for me are: Green Bay, Kansas, St Louis and Buffalo. That's it. Detroit has way better 'burbs, before you suggest.

Yer Man wrote:Baltimore getting stripped bare on Defense

ILB - CJ Mosley goonnee to the Jets @ $85M for 5 years
OLB - ZaDariun Smith to the Packers @ $66M for 4 years
OLB - Terrell Suggs to Arizona @ $7M for 1 year
FS - Eric Weddle to LA Rams @ $10.5M for 2 years
WR - John Brown to Buffalo @ $27M for 3 years

On the other hand... they've just signed Le'Veon Bell

Steelers fans now on suicide watch?

Bell is heading to the Jets

Last I heard Baltimore were in for Ingram

LandOTurk wrote:

Bowens wrote:Cleveland has good spots. It’s not NYC but I would rather live there than some other NFL markets.

Like yoursef, I have travelled extensively around the states, and been to Cleveland many times.

Worse spots for me are: Green Bay, Kansas, St Louis and Buffalo. That's it. Detroit has way better 'burbs, before you suggest.

Cleveland and Detroit are basically the same. They double for each other in movies. Cleveland has places that would match somewhere like Grosse Pointe in Detroit, Hunting Valley for example. And the city of Cleveland itself still has some decent neighborhoods with nice historic architecture.

Places like Cincy and Indy and Pittsburgh are a lot like Cleveland and I’m not knocking them, but Cleveland like Chicago has nice beaches to use in the summer while the inland cities don’t.

The sunbelt has better weather obviously but most of the cities are sprawling and attractions can be far apart. Northern cities are older and things tend to be a little closer together which is a nice convenience. My family will always bring up how spread out things are in Atlanta when they visit. Same deal in Dallas, Houston etc.

OBJ must have been a serious problem in that building.

Bowens wrote:Cleveland has good spots. It’s not NYC but I would rather live there than some other NFL markets.

Interesting spot for someone who claimed he wanted that California lifestyle.

NE:

Patterson to Chicago
Flowers to Detroit
Allen to Miami
Brown to Oakland

Bill has plenty of draft capital to work with now. Expecting some kind of blockbuster(ish) trade.