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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:26 am 
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The first place team will qualify for the World Cup directly, while the 2nd place team will qualify for the Repechage competition.

Live on Kwesé Sports Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifws7PGLvB4

Teams:
Team: 2017 position | WR Rank
Kenya: 2nd Gold Cup | 28
Morocco: 1st Silver Cup | 38
Namibia: 1st Gold Cup | 24
Tunisia: 4th Gold Cup | 42
Uganda: 3rd Gold Cup | 37
Zimbabwe: 5th Gold Cup | 44

Schedule:
16 June 2018
Namibia v Uganda - Hage Geingob Stadium, Windhoek
Zimbabwe v Morocco - Police Grounds, Harare

23 June 2018
Namibia v Tunisia - Hage Geingob Rugby Stadium, Windhoek
Morocco v Kenya - Stade du C.O.C., Casablanca

30 June 2018
Kenya v Zimbabwe - RFUEA Ground, Nairobi
Morocco v Namibia - Stade du C.O.C., Casablanca

7 July 2018
Kenya v Uganda - RFUEA Ground, Nairobi
Tunisia v Zimbabwe - Stade Mustapha Ben Jannet, Monastir

4 August 2018
Uganda v Tunisia - Kyadondo Rugby Club, Kampala
Zimbabwe v Namibia - Police Grounds, Harare

11 August 2018
Uganda v Morocco - Kyadondo Rugby Club, Kampala
Kenya v Tunisia - RFUEA Ground, Nairobi

18 August 2018
Tunisia v Morocco - Stade Mustapha Ben Jannet, Monastir
Namibia v Kenya - Hage Geingob Rugby Stadium, Windhoek
Uganda v Zimbabwe - Kyadondo Rugby Club, Kampala

World Rugby: https://www.worldrugby.org/tournament/1832


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Zimbabwe team to play Morocco
15. Shingirai Katsevere (Zim), 14. Takudzwa Kumadiro (Zim), 13. Kudzai Mashawi (Zim), 12. Brandon Mandivenga (Zim), 11. Matthew McNab (Zim), 10. Lenience Tambwera (Zim), 9. Hilton Mudariki (Jersey Reds, UK), 1. Denford Mutamangira (Zim), 2. David Makanda (Zim), 3. Farai Mudariki (Tarbes Pyrénées Rugby, France), 4. Kudakwashe Nyakufaringwa (South Africa) 5. Fortunate Chipendo (Zim), 6. Takudzwa Mandiwanza (Zim), 7. Connor Pritchard (Griffith Uni Colleges RC, Australia), 8. Tapfuma Parirenyatwa(Zim)
Replacements: 16. Matthew Mandioma (CR Liceo Francés, Spain), 17. Gabriel Sipapate (Zim), 18.Lawrence Cleminson (South Africa) 19.Nyaude 20. Njabulo Ndlovu (UWC, South Africa), 21. Peter du Toit (Canada), 22. Ngonidzashe Chibuwe (Zim), 23. Dylan Baptista (Tottonians RC, UK)


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Namibia team to play Uganda:

1. Casper Viviers (Welwitschias), 2. Obert Nortje (Welwitschias), 3. Johannes (Aranos) Coetzee (Cheetahs, SA), 4. Ruan Ludick (Welwitschias), 5. Tjiuee Uanivi (London Scottish, UK), 6. Wian Conradie (UJ, SA), 7. Janco Venter (Maties, SA), 8. Pieter-Jan van Lill (Bayonne, France), 9. Eugene Jantjies (Welwitschias), 10. Cliven Loubser (Tuks, SA), 11. JC Greyling (Welwitschias), 12. Darryl de la Harpe (Welwitschias), 13. Johan Deysel (captain) (Sharks, SA), 14. Leslie Klim (Doncaster Knights, UK), 15. Chrysander Botha (Welwitschias)

16. Louis van der Westhuizen (Leopards, SA), 17. André Rademeyer (SA), 18. Desiderius Sethie (Welwitschias), 19. Johan Retief (Leopards, SA), 20. Rohan Kitshoff (Welwitschias), 21. Damian Stevens (Griquas, SA), 22. PW Steenkamp (Welwitschias), 23. Justin Newman (Leopards)


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Uganda squad

Asuman Mugerwa (captain), Adnan Mutebi,
Paul Sekate, Joseph Tamale, Saul Kivumbi
Collin Kimbowa, Eliphaz Emong, Robert
Aziku ,Charles Uhuru,Brian Asaba, Byron
Oketayot, Musa Mwonge, Arthur Mukama,
Aaron Ofoyrwoith, Conrad Wanyama, James
Injogat, Lawrence Ssebuliba, Pius Ogena,
Eric Mula, Ian Muyani, Justin Kimono (vice-
captain),James Odong, Adrian Kasito


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:24 am 
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I would love to see P Divvy at the WC!
Go Zimbabwe and Namibia!


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Completely forgot Johan Deysel was at the Sharks.


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Zim v Morocco live at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifws7PG ... e=youtu.be

Zimbabwe leading 7 - 3. Morocco blew 2 great try chances.


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Thanks for the link. Let's hope Zimbabwe can have a good run in this comp, it would be incredible to see them at the World Cup.

I'll be going along for the Kenya vs Uganda and Tunisia games. Will be out of town for the Zim game, gutted :(


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On the opening half. Morocco gaining ground almost every time they go wide, they look bigger, but terrible finishing and technical skills binned two or three tries. Zim seem to have had less attacking chances, but look far more clinical in their finishing, when they attack up the middle with basic well executed moves Morocco have nothing. Zim scrum is better. Zim look decent when they go up channel one carrying and recycling, but they haven't done that much. Zim are trying too much and spreading the ball wide early, would've done better if they got a bit more narrow in attack.

Morocco have the better flyhalf, far better moving his team around the pitch kicking from hand, and that's huge in African rugby if you have that and your opponent doesn't. The Morocco 10 has basically been the difference and put them into the lead after losing for most of the half. In contrast I've hardly noticed the Zim 10, nor any decent kicking from them.

14-16 to Morocco

There's surely sides better than this in the comp.


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I assume many of the Moroccan players play in France in the lower divisions.

Interesting that PDivvy didn't select the Pumas lock, Jannie Stander


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ox wagon wrote:
There's surely sides better than this in the comp.


Namibia should take the competition. Zim needs to finish at least second and then beat Samoa and Canada, amongst others, to get to the RWC


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Zim - Mar ended 23 - 23 draw. Loads of basic mistakes and a near fatal one where the Morocco fly half kicked the ball sideways into touch on his own 22m thinking it would be time out but it wasn't. Zim then got a penalty kick for the last action of the game but it was missed.


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Jensrsa wrote:
Zim needs to finish at least second and then beat Samoa and Canada, amongst others, to get to the RWC

There's no way Zim will qualify through the repechage based on this performance. They had a stronger side last qualifying attempt.

A big problem for them is very weak kicking from hand and place kicking. They need to find a better flyhalf (Cronje was massive for them last qualifying attempt). They have a strong scrum, decent carrying and recycling in channel one. But De Villiers seems to be getting them to push the ball wide early, where they're losing possession and not scoring.

There was a 5 to 10 minute period in the second half that summed it up. Zim's scrum destroyed Morocco, Zim got an easy penalty and missed. Then in the next play Zim had a lineout on halfway, immediately went wide and got bundled into touch. From the Morocco lineout Zim conceded a maul penalty, the Moroccan 10's kick was further out than Zim's, his kick was better but missed. The next play ended up in Zim defending their line, and the Moroccan scrum doing nothing against them. If they had a better place kicker, and attacked a bit more narrow, they would've done better through that. Doesn't look like De Villiers has got this right, looked like they were playing away from their strengths most of that match.

Ended 23-23, Zim missed a penalty to win it.


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ox wagon wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Zim needs to finish at least second and then beat Samoa and Canada, amongst others, to get to the RWC

There's no way Zim will qualify through the repechage based on this performance. They had a stronger side last qualifying attempt.

A big problem for them is very weak kicking from hand and place kicking. They need to find a better flyhalf (Cronje was massive for them last qualifying attempt). They have a strong scrum, decent carrying and recycling in channel one. But De Villiers seems to be getting them to push the ball wide early, where they're losing possession and not scoring.

There was a 5 to 10 minute period in the second half that summed it up. Zim's scrum destroyed Morocco, Zim got an easy penalty and missed. Then in the next play Zim had a lineout on halfway, immediately went wide and got bundled into touch. From the Morocco lineout Zim conceded a maul penalty, the Moroccan 10's kick was further out than Zim's, his kick was better but missed. The next play ended up in Zim defending their line, and the Moroccan scrum doing nothing against them. If they had a better place kicker, and attacked a bit more narrow, they would've done better through that. Doesn't look like De Villiers has got this right, looked like they were playing away from their strengths most of that match.

Ended 23-23, Zim missed a penalty to win it.


First match under PDivvy isn't it? Well, he has two weeks to fix it before they play Kenya, who should be a lot stronger than Morocco


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First match under PDivvy isn't it? Well, he has two weeks to fix it before they play Kenya, who should be a lot stronger than Morocco

It was probably the easiest match they're going to play, at home against the promoted side. If Kenya, Nam, and Tunisia are roughly where they've been previously Zim are going to be struggling for a top half of the log finish. I expected loads more from them tbh.


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ox wagon wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
First match under PDivvy isn't it? Well, he has two weeks to fix it before they play Kenya, who should be a lot stronger than Morocco

It was probably the easiest match they're going to play, at home against the promoted side. If Kenya, Nam, and Tunisia are roughly where they've been previously Zim are going to be struggling for a top half of the log finish. I expected loads more of them tbh.


I don't know how much his hands are tied, having to select Zim based players, as there are a number of SA based players he could possibly have selected (unless they weren't interested)
Jannie Stander - Pumas
Eli Snyman - Blue Bulls / Junior Boks 2016
Nyasha Tarusenga - WP
Tapiwa Mafura - Leopards
Stephen Bashera - Golden Lions

I don't know any of these players but they are playing at a higher level than any of the Zim based players


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HT: Namibia 26-3 Uganda

Not many people at the game in Windhoek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifws7PGLvB4

Jantjies playing for Namibia :)


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Namibia killing Uganda 38-6 after 54 minutes


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Seems Kwesé Sports will be broadcasting all the games on their Youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifws7PGLvB4


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Jensrsa wrote:
Not many people at the game in Windhoek

The main grandstand has the camera in it, is covered, and is full with the crowd preferring to sit in the shade. Most of the TV coverage is looking out from the stand, only see it when they score. The Zim stadium didn't even have a grandstand.

Nam are a level above the other sides that played today.


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ox wagon wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Not many people at the game in Windhoek

The main grandstand has the camera in it, is covered, and is full with the crowd preferring to sit in the shade. Most of the TV coverage is looking out from the stand, only see it when they score. The Zim stadium didn't even have a grandstand.

Nam are a level above the other sides that played today.


Definitely a more "polished" side. Any idea why Torsten van Jaarsveld isn't playing? Or are they giving more youngsters a go?


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Namibia 55-6 Uganda
Zimbabwe 23-23 Morocco


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Definitely a more "polished" side. Any idea why Torsten van Jaarsveld isn't playing? Or are they giving more youngsters a go?

Torsten is in the main squad of 34 (there is an additional group of 10 on standby which he isn't in). They didn't pick their strongest team for this one. Still have Torsten, Rohan Kitshoff (in the XV not the bench like this match), Bothma, and a couple of others that aren't established but good enough for the 23.

They've improved a lot over the last 5 years. Were ranked 18th last year, which at this level is high. The biggest improvement is in their backline play. Thought they would be struggling without Kotze in the squad, but it doesn't seem to be the case, looks like they have some potentially decent young 10s (presumably Kotze will return for them at some point though, he's only 30 and played last season). They've established some type of high performance academy for locally based young players, and fast track them into Rugby Challenge/Currie Cup side, they've created a pool of 120 guys from that. Most of the squad was born in Nam now (I only know of Bothma and Ludick that were born in SA out of the current squad). The advantage is when those players return to Nam club rugby from foreign pro competitions, all that knowledge is fed back into the Nam system. Every squad they pick now, has a focus on as far ahead as 2023, it's why they have 10s in their early 20s in this squad.

If they qualify for the RWC, they need to try and get Anton Bresler. He was in the extended Scotland squad in 2017, but wasn't capped and he's now left Scotland. 30 years old, so not young enough to gain residency qualification for anyone else.
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I don't know how much his hands are tied, having to select Zim based players, as there are a number of SA based players he could possibly have selected (unless they weren't interested)
Jannie Stander - Pumas
Eli Snyman - Blue Bulls / Junior Boks 2016
Nyasha Tarusenga - WP
Tapiwa Mafura - Leopards
Stephen Bashera - Golden Lions

I don't know any of these players but they are playing at a higher level than any of the Zim based players

They're all in the expanded squad other than Bashera. I do not know if they're in the main squad, or standby players though.

Zim need to copy Nam's model. Initially building the strongest squad possible, using any good player that will play for them, even if that means a lot of ancestry players. At the same time the club league needs to be streamlined and restructured. Nam have 28 clubs and an 11 team top division, which produces a champion and attracts sponsors. Zim have 17 clubs, split into a northern and southern divisions (one of the reasons for this was the fuel costs during Mugabe's mess), and no overall champion (meaning the side they send to the SA club comp, unlike the side Nam send, is not determined to be the best through competition). The Northern and Southern divisions are split into different tiers themselves, with sometimes 1st and 2nd teams from the same club playing in the top tier of a division. It's over complicated for so few clubs. They need a national club competition, probably of the best 5 or so clubs (probably mostly located in Harare), and all those teams need age grade sides from minis up. Having the strongest club system possible means the local players that make the national side, will be better equipped to do well and they'll be younger, meaning they're more likely to get pro contracts (and being from Zim, more likely to return with the acquired knowledge and feed it back into the system). If they do that, then like the Nam players the difference between those based abroad and those playing locally will not be as great, and a lot of locally based players will have experience of pro rugby abroad. Over time they can do away with desperately searching for anyone half decent that'll play for them also.

It seems there's a lot of politics in Zim rugby though. Brendon Dawson the current assistant coach, was the head coach for their last qualifying attempt (coached them from 2007-2015), it was a decent side. He was then sacked and most of that side gutted, only for him to return (after his replacement failed) as the assistant coach. If they're not purely focused on winning, they're going to struggle.

Zim should be so strong, that they're assured of qualification even through the repechage. Not just upset wins on a good day.


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Thanks Ox :thumbup:


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Pity about the result for Zim. In a competition of this kind, drawing a home game is as good as a loss. It's unlikely they'll finish any higher than third. Kenya will beat them in the next game.


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23 June 2018
Namibia v Tunisia - Hage Geingob Rugby Stadium, Windhoek
Morocco v Kenya - Stade du C.O.C., Casablanca

Round 2 today, and Tunisia's and Kenya's first matches.

Nam team:
1. Casper Viviers 2. Obert Nortje 3. Johannes (Aranos) Coetzee
4. Ruan Ludick 5. Tjiuee Uanivi
6. Rohan Kitshoff (VC) 8. Wian Conradie 7. Max Katjijeko
9. Eugene Jantjies 10. Cliven Loubser
12. Johan Deysel (C) 13. JC Greyling
11. Gino Wilson 15. Chrysander Botha 14. Lesley Klim

16. Louis van der Westhuizen 17. Desiderius Sethie 18. Nelius Theron 19. Johan Retief 20. Pieter-Jan van Lill 21. Damian Stevens 22. PW Steenkamp 23. Johann Tromp

PJ van Lill moves onto the bench and Kitshoff starts, both first choice backrows. Jaco Venter is replaced by Max Katjijeko, don't know much about these players, but looks like there's rotation of squad backrows also. Johann Tromp back into the side on the bench, a definite first choice backline player/centre. Darryl de la Harpe (a definite XV/23 player) out of the side, and JC Greyling (probably a first choice wing) moved to centre. So there's some rotation in the midfield also. Everything else is unchanged from the first round.


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The Kenya Simbas squad

15. Biko Adema (Nondies), 14. Edmund Anya (Strathmore Leos), 13. Peter Kilonzo (KCB), 12. Leo Seje (Impala Saracens), 11. Tony Onyango (Homeboyz), 10. Darwin Mukidza (KCB), 9. Samson Onsomu (Impala Saracens), 1. Patrick Ouko (Homeboyz), 2. Colman Were (Kabras Sugar), 3. Joseph Odero (Kabras Sugar), 4. Andrew Chogo (Kabras Sugar), 5.Oliver Mang’eni (KCB), 6. George Nyambua (Kabras Sugar), 7. Philip Ikambili (Homeboyz), 8.Davis Chenge (KCB, captain)

REPLACEMENTS: 16. Peter Karia (KCB), 17. Moses Amusala (KCB), 18. Curtis Lilako (KCB), 19. Malcolm Onsando (Kenya Harlequin), 20. Erick Kerre (Impala Saracens), 21. Mohammed Omollo (Homeboyz), 22.Zeden Marrow (Homeboyz), 23. Max Kang’eri (Homeboyz)

At least one bit of good news for Kenya rugby given the current shitstorm with the 7s team

"There was a sigh of relief for Kenya Rugby Union (KRU), who are going through financial difficulties, when Kenya Breweries Marketing Manager Christine Mwaura delivered a sponsorship cheque of Sh53 million."


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I compared that Kenyan 23 to the side that played Nam last year, and their Cup of Nations side at the end of last year. Backline is similar, but with some position changes. Pack has a lot of (new?) player changes in the XV, with forwards that were previously starting on the bench.

The new Kiwi coaches of Kenya, have talked about not being impressed with the Kenyan club games they've seen (particularly how stop start it was, and how few phases there were), and wanting fitter forwards and to play a multi phase game. Possible that they've decided the forwards that were being selected were not fit enough, and moved them to the bench.

At 10 (as previously posted, tends to be hugely important in African rugby if a side has a strong kicker from hand and the opponent doesn't), they've selected a player that was playing on the wing. At 15 they've picked a player listed as a flyhalf. Looks like it's been configured for the best running/carrying player at 10, and the best kicker from hand at 15. This tends to be a better setup for a possession based game, Jake White always did this when he was Bok coach (the best kicker from hand in the side was Percy at the back, the 10 was always a running/carrying player). If the pack struggles it can go wrong.

We'll get a good read on where Kenya and Zim are based on this match. I think Zim and Kenya are attempting to do something similar. Morocco had a very basic structure, with a kicking 10.


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There are 5 uncapped players in the Kenya squad this time.

"Kenya Under-20 international Edmund Anya will start at the wing with Kabras Sugar’s Colman Were starting at hooker. The Homeboyz trio of Mohammed Omollo, Zedden Marrow and Max Kang’eri all start from the bench."

Can't find anything on the Morocco or Tunisia squads, predictably their sports news is completely domination by football, and the Federation facebook pages are as much help as nipples on a breastplate. I guess they are mostly France based players with a few domestic ones.


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Stream link for today's matches:
https://youtu.be/92ldd3ejQMY

25 minutes in, Nam winning 26-0.


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69 - 0 now and still about 30 mins left.


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Nam win 118-0 :shock:

About all you can say after that is Nam can put together some slick attacking moves, and Tunisia need to work on their conditioning can't rugby if you're a fatty.


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It's depressing how no other nation in Africa (excluding the Boks of course) seems to be able to get near Namibia's level now after some seem to be catching up well in years past. Still, we will see how Kenya and Zim do against them yet.

Stream for Morocco vs Kenya ( good luck with commentary in Arabic! )
http://arryadia.snrt.ma/


Kenya just took the lead 7 - 0 after a few minutes.


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tabascoboy wrote:
It's depressing how no other nation in Africa (excluding the Boks of course) seems to be able to get near Namibia's level now after some seem to be catching up well in years past. Still, we will see how Kenya and Zim do against them yet.

Stream for Morocco vs Kenya ( good luck with commentary in Arabic! )
http://arryadia.snrt.ma/


Kenya just took the lead 7 - 0 after a few minutes.


I'd like to see another team as much as anyone, but Namibia has upped their game, which is a good thing for the sport.


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tabascoboy wrote:
It's depressing how no other nation in Africa (excluding the Boks of course) seems to be able to get near Namibia's level now after some seem to be catching up well in years past. Still, we will see how Kenya and Zim do against them yet.

Stream for Morocco vs Kenya ( good luck with commentary in Arabic! )
http://arryadia.snrt.ma/


Kenya just took the lead 7 - 0 after a few minutes.


I'd like to see another team as much as anyone, but Namibia has upped their game, which is a good thing for the sport.

Sure - I just wish others had kept up with them, perhaps the links with Welwitschias playing in SA competition is a big help although their record isn't good.

Morocco leading 10 - 7 heading towards halftime.


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Tense finish on the cards, Morocco 24 - 28 Kenya with about 10 to go. And Kenya a man down now after a yellow card.

Well done to Kenya who clung on, as Morocco made silly mistakes and didn't seem to have the skill or energy to take advantage of the one man advantage. Ended 24 - 28.


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tabascoboy wrote:
Tense finish on the cards, Morocco 24 - 28 Kenya with about 10 to go. And Kenya a man down now after a yellow card.

Well done to Kenya who clung on, as Morocco made silly mistakes and didn't seem to have the skill or energy to take advantage of the one man advantage. Ended 24 - 28.

Only watched the second half (will watch the rest if it ends up online anywhere). Morocco were done when their 10 went off injured at 60 minutes. Kenya seemed to struggle with the Moroccan pack more than Zim did. Morocco are weak up the middle when a side gets some momentum against them. Bit surprising Morocco got this close to Kenya and Zim, they're not really asking a lot of questions.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:03 pm 
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perhaps the links with Welwitschias playing in SA competition is a big help although their record isn't good.

This old one. Craven Week is just as important as any other SA comp they play in, and Zim has teams in that.

Their Rugby Challenge/Currie Cup side (Kenya has previously played in a past version of this comp), isn't about winning, it's about getting the best young players into the side as quickly as possible (as I posted above they have some type of academy system to fast track young/schools players now). They fast track young players into that shop window, where the best get signed by SA sides (similar to SA minnow unions). The real point of it is integration by a small producer into a global supply chain (in this case for rugby players), the players are worth more and more likely to get pro contracts the younger they are. It's why Craven week is just as important, the very best will be spotted then.

Zim and Nam have the same amount of teams (1 each) in the national club comp, that's the comp purely focused on results with little point in development.

There's a downside in this level of integration also, they lose all their best players from local competition, and excellent players may refuse to play for them. But it's the only real choice for a small economy. Daniel Adongo is the only Kenyan player that has taken this route, because the Sharks academy spotted him on a tour to Kenya when he was young, he then refused to play for Kenya.

SARU wouldn't stop Zim or Kenya integrating in the same way, if they pay their own way like Nam. Zim is already partially integrated, but SARU can't run their entire domestic game and national team for them. Kenya may not view this amount of integration as desirable, their economy could potentially manage more domestically.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:03 pm 
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Namibia look a class above nowadays. What a difference a few years can make...remember when they lost to Madagascar a few years ago?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:23 pm 
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That Namibia score :shock:

That spells bad news for Kenya and Zim. Can't see either of them turning over Nam.


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