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In a very disappointing move it appears leinster/irfu have given Roman Salanoa an academy contract for the season, becomes IQ'd after this season: https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/academy-pl ... d=RS890020

Obviously not a fan of the move, but there ye go. :thumbdown:


Bit of a difference between developing someone who wasn't a rugby player and bringing in star underage players like Knox and More. If Salanoa makes it he'll very much be a product of Leinster Rugby.

There's a subtle distinction in that regard alright. Cullen mentioned genetics in the aftermath of the Euro loss this season. Saracens have guys like Skelton, Itoje, the Vunipolas. It's very hard to compete with teams like that if your squad is 100% homegrown. The French sides are totally unscrupulous in this regard. This lad Salanoa will probably struggle to make it but it's inevitable that we would see a little bit of this sort of thing beginning to creep in.

So what you're saying is... Ulster are actually ahead of the game in world-wide player recruitment :thumbup:

Ulster haven't pulled NIQ players into the academy before, unlike Munster and now Leinster.


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Except technically Salanoa is IQ


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Except technically Salanoa is IQ

Not yet he ain't.


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In a very disappointing move it appears leinster/irfu have given Roman Salanoa an academy contract for the season, becomes IQ'd after this season: https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/academy-pl ... d=RS890020

Obviously not a fan of the move, but there ye go. :thumbdown:


Bit of a difference between developing someone who wasn't a rugby player and bringing in star underage players like Knox and More. If Salanoa makes it he'll very much be a product of Leinster Rugby.

There's a subtle distinction in that regard alright. Cullen mentioned genetics in the aftermath of the Euro loss this season. Saracens have guys like Skelton, Itoje, the Vunipolas. It's very hard to compete with teams like that if your squad is 100% homegrown. The French sides are totally unscrupulous in this regard. This lad Salanoa will probably struggle to make it but it's inevitable that we would see a little bit of this sort of thing beginning to creep in.

So what you're saying is... Ulster are actually ahead of the game in world-wide player recruitment :thumbup:

Ulster haven't pulled NIQ players into the academy before, unlike Munster and now Leinster.


We would if anyone of talent actually came to live in this hole.


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Lads anyone know were the reduce to 60kph bit is on the M7 , is it still starting at Johnstown?

60?? That can't be right, I've never done 60 on that road

Roadworks going on since 2018.


All lanes are open now. It's 80kph for the moment but obviously moves quickly enough. Starts at Johnstown, yep.


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hermie wrote:
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Lads anyone know were the reduce to 60kph bit is on the M7 , is it still starting at Johnstown?

60?? That can't be right, I've never done 60 on that road

Roadworks around Naas to turn the road into a 3 laner.


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Haley, Bealham and Cooney cut from squad.

Carbery confirmed at 4 - 6 weeks out.


thats a surprise..

Joe saving Ulster from having Shanahan and Stewart as their scrumhalves. Sickener for Cooney.


To me it looks like Cooney brings a lot of sharpness and variety to the attack. I'd have him a lot higher up the pecking order but Schmidt doesn't seem to be a fan. He must value McGrath's defence higher.

They are both decent players and they are fighting for no 3 SH in the squad but it seems odd that Cooney has had no look in whatsoever.

Remember the days when our no 1 SH would struggle to make any other tier 1 nation's team? Now we have 4 guys there who would do a job in green.


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Leinsters pack during WC: Byrne, Tracy, Bent, Molony, Fardy, Deegan, Connors, Doris.


IF Penney is fit do you think Connors will be starting ahead of him? Do you reckon Baird will be fast tracked if so what position do you think he will end up?

Penny has had both shoulders operated on. Don't think he will be around for the start of the season. Could see Baird getting a few games at 6 to begin with, while he matures physically.

Penney is supposed to be back for start of season
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Uncle Fester wrote:
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Haley, Bealham and Cooney cut from squad.

Carbery confirmed at 4 - 6 weeks out.


thats a surprise..

Joe saving Ulster from having Shanahan and Stewart as their scrumhalves. Sickener for Cooney.


To me it looks like Cooney brings a lot of sharpness and variety to the attack. I'd have him a lot higher up the pecking order but Schmidt doesn't seem to be a fan. He must value McGrath's defence higher.

They are both decent players and they are fighting for no 3 SH in the squad but it seems odd that Cooney has had no look in whatsoever.

Remember the days when our no 1 SH would struggle to make any other tier 1 nation's team? Now we have 4 guys there who would do a job in green.


Ulster is the first time Cooney has been able to establish himself as starting scrumhalf, I know he was quite injury prone but he was down the pecking order at Leinster and behind Marmion at Connacht. I always quite liked him but wonder what was holding him back at the other provinces - was he injured most of the time?


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Always injured. Was challenging Marmion for a starting spot with the westies until yet another injury caught him.


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Uncle Fester wrote:
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Lads anyone know were the reduce to 60kph bit is on the M7 , is it still starting at Johnstown?

60?? That can't be right, I've never done 60 on that road

Roadworks around Naas to turn the road into a 3 laner.

Oh yeah fudge are those road works still going?? It starts by that big globe at the turn off for Naas. Probably too late now :blush:


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Lads anyone know were the reduce to 60kph bit is on the M7 , is it still starting at Johnstown?

60?? That can't be right, I've never done 60 on that road

Roadworks going on since 2018.


All lanes are open now. It's 80kph for the moment but obviously moves quickly enough. Starts at Johnstown, yep.

That sounds a bit better thanks for that.


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hermie wrote:
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Lads anyone know were the reduce to 60kph bit is on the M7 , is it still starting at Johnstown?

60?? That can't be right, I've never done 60 on that road

Roadworks around Naas to turn the road into a 3 laner.

Oh yeah fudge are those road works still going?? It starts by that big globe at the turn off for Naas. Probably too late now :blush:


The roadworks are still ongoing but all three lanes are open now in both directions.

The limit is 80, not 60.


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Coetzee starting for South Africa there.


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What kind of team do people think we'll see against England? Probably a stronger lineup. Maybe Furlong, Hendo, Ryan, Conan in the pack. I'd love to see good mates Cooney & Carty start at 9 & 10. We'll see if it happens. Maybe Addison at fullback with the first choice wingers either side of him? Any other thoughts?


I’d imagine the England match will be close to full strength, the first Welsh test squad members or combinations he wants to try out and the second Welsh test will see the xxiii he wants to play against Scotland. Centre must be bit of a conundrum now for Joe , Henshaw and Aki need gametime but he probably wants another look at Ringrose/ Farrell too . I’d say we’ll see something like this for England

Healy
Best
Furlong
Ryan
Toner
POM
VdF
Stander
Murray
Sexton
Stockdale
Aki
Henshaw
Earls
Kearney

Cronin
Kilcoyne
Ryan
Toner
Conan
Marmion
Carty
Larmour

So will Toner be substituting for Ryan and Ryan substituting for Toner?
Could be tricky in the timing. They could both be on the field twice at the same time


:lol: Hendie to start . The Ryan on the bench is prop John Ryan


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lorcanoworms wrote:
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lorcanoworms wrote:
hermie wrote:
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Lads anyone know were the reduce to 60kph bit is on the M7 , is it still starting at Johnstown?

60?? That can't be right, I've never done 60 on that road

Roadworks going on since 2018.


All lanes are open now. It's 80kph for the moment but obviously moves quickly enough. Starts at Johnstown, yep.

That sounds a bit better thanks for that.


worried about a speeding van that was on the N7 today just past Circle K ?you were definitely in a 100 kph zone


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hermie wrote:
RichieRich89 wrote:
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Haley, Bealham and Cooney cut from squad.

Carbery confirmed at 4 - 6 weeks out.


thats a surprise..

Joe saving Ulster from having Shanahan and Stewart as their scrumhalves. Sickener for Cooney.


To me it looks like Cooney brings a lot of sharpness and variety to the attack. I'd have him a lot higher up the pecking order but Schmidt doesn't seem to be a fan. He must value McGrath's defence higher.

I think Joe must have something very specific against Cooney who is objectively a better passer and kicker than McGrath. Certainly McGrath's defence is excellent, as is his support play and he seems like the kind of character you would want in your squad to boot. But is that enough to have him so far ahead of Cooney to not even want to take a look at the latter? Does Cooney go off script too often or something like that?


Agree. Think it might just be just a Joe blind spot. He does have them once in a while...


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Or maybe he’s just a better judge of players than some of us ? He’s a former scrum half isn’t he so I take it he knows a bit about the position. He’s had both players under his management at Leinster too


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Former wing.

He let Cooney go in favour of McGrath.


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Former wing.

He let Cooney go in favour of McGrath.


Must have been his son I was thinking of .

Still though, I reckon he knows his scrum halves better than us


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RWC2015"[quote="RichieRich89 wrote:
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Haley, Bealham and Cooney cut from squad.

Carbery confirmed at 4 - 6 weeks out.


thats a surprise..



To me it looks like Cooney brings a lot of sharpness and variety to the attack. I'd have him a lot higher up the pecking order but Schmidt doesn't seem to be a fan. He must value McGrath's defence higher.

I think Joe must have something very specific against Cooney who is objectively a better passer and kicker than McGrath. Certainly McGrath's defence is excellent, as is his support play and he seems like the kind of character you would want in your squad to boot. But is that enough to have him so far ahead of Cooney to not even want to take a look at the latter? Does Cooney go off script too often or something like that?


Agree. Think it might just be just a Joe blind spot. He does have them once in a while...[/quote]

Joe has his own system in place and most of the time he gets it right. Hopefully RWC2019 is one of the times he does.
Tough on any players let go, but them's the breaks.


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Captain Average wrote:
Hey nerds
Help me out here. I'm stuck on a few of the following:
I'm missing 6, 7, 8, 17, 27, 28 & 29
Goal is to identify the rugby world cup players names from the emojis

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Edit: Pic not showing when I link it for some reason.
Link here: https://imgur.com/rLZZAVv

7 is Damian McKenzie, 27 is Santiago Cordero. Think all the others were mentioned. 17 is tough, but guessing Jonah Homes


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Hey nerds
Help me out here. I'm stuck on a few of the following:
I'm missing 6, 7, 8, 17, 27, 28 & 29
Goal is to identify the rugby world cup players names from the emojis

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Edit: Pic not showing when I link it for some reason.
Link here: https://imgur.com/rLZZAVv

7 is Damian McKenzie, 27 is Santiago Cordero. Think all the others were mentioned. 17 is tough, but guessing Jonah Homes

What's the aubergine supposed to be phonetically? All I can see is cock, or variations thereof.


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Emmet Byrne is my new favourite pundit, some good scrum bits on twitter from
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Probable Munster side during the WC:

Cronin Marshall Archer
Holland Beirne
Botha O'Donoghue O'Donnell
Mathewson Bleyendaal
Sweetnam Scannell Goggin Wooton
Haley

Loughman, O'Byrne, Scott, Wycherley, Cloete, Casey, Hanrahan, Arnold

Not a bad side and any of Killer, Scannell, Ryan, Kleyn, Farrell and Conway could yet be added depending on selection calls.


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Nolanator wrote:
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Hey nerds
Help me out here. I'm stuck on a few of the following:
I'm missing 6, 7, 8, 17, 27, 28 & 29
Goal is to identify the rugby world cup players names from the emojis

Image

Edit: Pic not showing when I link it for some reason.
Link here: https://imgur.com/rLZZAVv

7 is Damian McKenzie, 27 is Santiago Cordero. Think all the others were mentioned. 17 is tough, but guessing Jonah Homes

What's the aubergine supposed to be phonetically? All I can see is cock, or variations thereof.

Depends on the name. In 8 it is Sex in Sexton, in 21 it is Dick for Cowan-Dickie and 26 it is Cock for Pocock


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I only managed Pocock.


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Emmet Byrne is my new favourite pundit, some good scrum bits on twitter from
Him :thumbup:


Yeah he has a great way of explaining technical stuff that makes it understandable.

He used to do a bit of punditry but seemed to disappear there for a couple years and like yourself I just saw him reappear today. on OTB.


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Except technically Salanoa is IQ

I thought she was Dutch.


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What time are most of our KO’s at during the RWC? Stupid oclock?


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Lads anyone know were the reduce to 60kph bit is on the M7 , is it still starting at Johnstown?

60?? That can't be right, I've never done 60 on that road

Apparently the number of speeding fines there runs into thousands


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Trostan wrote:
Conspicuous wrote:
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What kind of team do people think we'll see against England? Probably a stronger lineup. Maybe Furlong, Hendo, Ryan, Conan in the pack. I'd love to see good mates Cooney & Carty start at 9 & 10. We'll see if it happens. Maybe Addison at fullback with the first choice wingers either side of him? Any other thoughts?


I’d imagine the England match will be close to full strength, the first Welsh test squad members or combinations he wants to try out and the second Welsh test will see the xxiii he wants to play against Scotland. Centre must be bit of a conundrum now for Joe , Henshaw and Aki need gametime but he probably wants another look at Ringrose/ Farrell too . I’d say we’ll see something like this for England

Healy
Best
Furlong
Ryan
Toner
POM
VdF
Stander
Murray
Sexton
Stockdale
Aki
Henshaw
Earls
Kearney

Cronin
Kilcoyne
Ryan
Toner
Conan
Marmion
Carty
Larmour

So will Toner be substituting for Ryan and Ryan substituting for Toner?
Could be tricky in the timing. They could both be on the field twice at the same time


:lol: Hendie to start . The Ryan on the bench is prop John Ryan


Yes I know, had drink taken, still 2Toners though.


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Or maybe he’s just a better judge of players than some of us ? He’s a former scrum half isn’t he so I take it he knows a bit about the position. He’s had both players under his management at Leinster too

I'd wonder if Sexton had any input into the SH decision, given he plays with McGrath (sometimes)


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Trostan wrote:
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Trostan wrote:
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What kind of team do people think we'll see against England? Probably a stronger lineup. Maybe Furlong, Hendo, Ryan, Conan in the pack. I'd love to see good mates Cooney & Carty start at 9 & 10. We'll see if it happens. Maybe Addison at fullback with the first choice wingers either side of him? Any other thoughts?


I’d imagine the England match will be close to full strength, the first Welsh test squad members or combinations he wants to try out and the second Welsh test will see the xxiii he wants to play against Scotland. Centre must be bit of a conundrum now for Joe , Henshaw and Aki need gametime but he probably wants another look at Ringrose/ Farrell too . I’d say we’ll see something like this for England

Healy
Best
Furlong
Ryan
Toner
POM
VdF
Stander
Murray
Sexton
Stockdale
Aki
Henshaw
Earls
Kearney

Cronin
Kilcoyne
Ryan
Toner
Conan
Marmion
Carty
Larmour

So will Toner be substituting for Ryan and Ryan substituting for Toner?
Could be tricky in the timing. They could both be on the field twice at the same time


:lol: Hendie to start . The Ryan on the bench is prop John Ryan


Yes I know, had drink taken, still 2Toners though.


I hadn’t taken a drink all day, that’s my excuse


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Lads anyone know were the reduce to 60kph bit is on the M7 , is it still starting at Johnstown?

60?? That can't be right, I've never done 60 on that road

Apparently the number of speeding fines there runs into thousands


It’s gone now that the three lanes are open


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Yeah he has a great way of explaining technical stuff that makes it understandable.

He used to do a bit of punditry but seemed to disappear there for a couple years and like yourself I just saw him reappear today. on OTB.


He’s not exactly Mr Charisma


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What time are most of our KO’s at during the RWC? Stupid oclock?


https://www.rugbyworld.com/rugby-fixtur ... tures-2019

Our group matches

Scotland 8:45 Sun
Japan 8:15 Sat
Russia 11:15 Thur
Samoa 11:45 Sat


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Lads anyone know were the reduce to 60kph bit is on the M7 , is it still starting at Johnstown?

60?? That can't be right, I've never done 60 on that road

Apparently the number of speeding fines there runs into thousands


It’s gone now that the three lanes are open



There’s still an 80 kph restriction in force until hard shoulders are finished and construction of bridges and new exits is completed


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Jim Lahey wrote:
What time are most of our KO’s at during the RWC? Stupid oclock?


https://www.rugbyworld.com/rugby-fixtur ... tures-2019

Our group matches

Scotland 8:45 Sun
Japan 8:15 Sat
Russia 11:15 Thur
Samoa 11:45 Sat


:thumbup:

Not so bad then. The mrs will be happy that I’ll not have most of the afternoons boxed off for the games, leading to the rest of the nights spent in the pub.


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Jim Lahey wrote:
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Jim Lahey wrote:
What time are most of our KO’s at during the RWC? Stupid oclock?


https://www.rugbyworld.com/rugby-fixtur ... tures-2019

Our group matches

Scotland 8:45 Sun
Japan 8:15 Sat
Russia 11:15 Thur
Samoa 11:45 Sat


:thumbup:

Not so bad then. The mrs will be happy that I’ll not have most of the afternoons boxed off for the games, leading to the rest of the nights spent in the pub.


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