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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:34 pm
by mr bungle
Rumham wrote:
Rugby is on a completely different level in NZ to anything other country or even sport I know of elsewhere. It's why you are such bitter pricks about losing, it is like mourning a death.
Really? Not much bitterness after Chicago. Would also have loved to have seen the Lions, particularly Irish reaction, should Poite have made his weird 'deal' at the death of the series in our favour and cost you a series victory. I think you'd be surprised how many genuine nz rugby fans looked on that series as one of missed opportunities but that ultimately the Lions played a great series and the draw was a fair result.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:50 pm
by tiddle
Yer Man wrote:Got a late invite yesterday to join a Dinner attended by one of the returning Lions players.
A few interesting titbits from the current England International... although nowhere near as much gossip as you might have gotten from a forward.
Launchbury or George

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:17 pm
by Zico
Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Anyone else want to get on board the "Padraigh Harrington third British Open" hype train?
No interest in golf, but if he's in with a shout by Sunday let me know and I'll jump in feet first.
Same here. That's a bandwagon I'll need the station in sight for. Best of luck Pod rig. :)

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:25 pm
by Lenny
I see that Sky have lost the rights for the US PGA this year. They're losing a lot of premium events, and it's not going to get much easier for them if they don't broaden their subscription base through development of new ways of delivering their product. I think that this was the issue for the PGA rather than one of price.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:32 pm
by Liathroidigloine
Lenny wrote:I see that Sky have lost the rights for the US PGA this year. They're losing a lot of premium events, and it's not going to get much easier for them if they don't broaden their subscription base through development of new ways of delivering their product. I think that this was the issue for the PGA rather than one of price.
They've lost so much that it's not worth my while having it anymore.

The one PRO12/14 game a week will be watched on a dodgy stream or in the pub.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:47 pm
by DiscoHips D'Arcy
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Lenny wrote:I see that Sky have lost the rights for the US PGA this year. They're losing a lot of premium events, and it's not going to get much easier for them if they don't broaden their subscription base through development of new ways of delivering their product. I think that this was the issue for the PGA rather than one of price.
They've lost so much that it's not worth my while having it anymore.

The one PRO12/14 game a week will be watched on a dodgy stream or in the pub.
Just on this conference system ballix that's coming in. Surely the Irish will be split two and two and if so which two of the 'big three' are together will be critical you would think.

Apologies to Connacht fans. Only expression that came to mind

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:54 pm
by Diego
Congrats to the new IRFU President, Philip Orr. :thumbup:

Thoroughly deserved after the best part of 50 years involvement at the top end of Irish rugby.

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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:00 pm
by camroc1
Diego wrote:Congrats to the new IRFU President, Philip Orr. :thumbup:

Thoroughly deserved after the best part of 50 years involvement at the top end of Irish rugby.

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:thumbup:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:24 pm
by Conn
DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Lenny wrote:I see that Sky have lost the rights for the US PGA this year. They're losing a lot of premium events, and it's not going to get much easier for them if they don't broaden their subscription base through development of new ways of delivering their product. I think that this was the issue for the PGA rather than one of price.
They've lost so much that it's not worth my while having it anymore.

The one PRO12/14 game a week will be watched on a dodgy stream or in the pub.
Just on this conference system ballix that's coming in. Surely the Irish will be split two and two and if so which two of the 'big three' are together will be critical you would think.

Apologies to Connacht fans. Only expression that came to mind
How about "How will the provinces be split?"

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:26 pm
by tiddle
Conn wrote:
DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Lenny wrote:I see that Sky have lost the rights for the US PGA this year. They're losing a lot of premium events, and it's not going to get much easier for them if they don't broaden their subscription base through development of new ways of delivering their product. I think that this was the issue for the PGA rather than one of price.
They've lost so much that it's not worth my while having it anymore.

The one PRO12/14 game a week will be watched on a dodgy stream or in the pub.
Just on this conference system ballix that's coming in. Surely the Irish will be split two and two and if so which two of the 'big three' are together will be critical you would think.

Apologies to Connacht fans. Only expression that came to mind
How about "How will the provinces be split?"
:lol: too simple

I think Munster,Connacht/Ulster,Leinster

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:43 pm
by RWC2015
Diego wrote:Congrats to the new IRFU President, Philip Orr. :thumbup:

Thoroughly deserved after the best part of 50 years involvement at the top end of Irish rugby.

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I remember him coming on as a sub in the 1987 WC agains Aus, after the game had been lost, taking a pop pass and levelling some lad :lol: probably my first rugby memory

At least I think it was him?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:29 pm
by Mr. Very Popular
Diego wrote:Congrats to the new IRFU President, Philip Orr. :thumbup:

Thoroughly deserved after the best part of 50 years involvement at the top end of Irish rugby.

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Good stuff, perfect man to look after the blazers :thumbup:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:45 am
by Brumby_in_Vic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar_vtl3OfdY

Cheetahs v Kings highlights. Strong finishes by Swart and Mapimpi

That 7 from the Kings coming from the side wasn't Cloete.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:07 am
by Rumham
I'm guessing everyone at Munster knew this a long time ago so and Rassie was just blowing smoke publicly.

Surely we could have found a better solution than this farce of having these jokers coach until December and then piss off. POC and ROG, come on down.
"The fact of the matter is that termination clauses in contracts are there for protection not only of the employee but also for the protection of the employer.

"That's something that's negotiated with each coach as they come in and it depends on the risks associated, the risks they see and equally the risk we might see. The reality is it is a protection for everyone. There was a nine-month clause in this particular case, Rassie called it and that's fine.

"Yes, it's not ideal but David Nucifora and Garrett Fitzgerald are working very closely together to find someone to come in to take up when Rassie leaves. That (the triggering of the clause) would have been earlier in the spring."
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/m ... 33266.html

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:51 am
by Liathroidigloine
How can Erasmus stay until December when it's shown he lied to Munster supporters?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:53 am
by Lazy Couch potato
I think frankly from the minute garret Fitzgerald et al knew the two lads were off being "truthful" to the media and the players would probably be fairly low down on my list of priorities.
Firstly we were still very much alive in the pro12 and saying anything to allow stability was prudent. Visibly we looked a fairly exhausted squad at that time. A greater media storm wouldn't have helped

Secondly the longer Garrett fitz has , without media spotlight to go and see who's available the better. For me I'd rather the right guy/guys eventually rather than having to just jump at whose available (I suspect akkermann to Gloucester was already done). I'd say we'll have a lot more white smoke once super rugby finishes up.
Thirdly I'd be looking at long term recruitment of players which yet again we seem to have done well. Cloete is be a fine addition and I think grobler is a low cost decent player that may surprise people. It'll be interesting to see who the new th project is but if he's the name that's been rumoured online he'd be a fine player.
Finally they definitely ran a very good preseason last year. We came out of the blocks well and in my opinion it was squad depth that did for us towards the end

It's a pro sport.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:17 am
by Nolanator
Has the new Pro12 format actually been published anywhere?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:19 am
by Mr. Very Popular
People looking to be butt hurt about this, get over it, the man stuck to his contract and did a great job in very hard circumstances, and has got the call from his country.
We were lucky to have him at all as he's made a lot of players that were floating along accountable and better.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:38 am
by Lazy Couch potato
Nolanator wrote:Has the new Pro12 format actually been published anywhere?

Rumoured today isn't it

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:46 am
by lorcanoworms
camroc1 wrote:
Diego wrote:Congrats to the new IRFU President, Philip Orr. :thumbup:

Thoroughly deserved after the best part of 50 years involvement at the top end of Irish rugby.

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:thumbup:
Nice guy is Phil.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:17 am
by grimoald
Jaeger came on for the Saders just there. Got a bit melted in one scrum, but outside looks a cracking player, running some really good tough lines, showing good hands and excellent body positions at the ruck.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:40 am
by Mr. Very Popular
EverReady wrote:When I break up with you MVP you better not take it as well
I'm already crying on the inside. :((

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:50 am
by rfurlong
I see a fair few NZers bitching about Jacksons refereeing on the canes-saders match

The supreme fooking irony :lol:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:51 am
by Rumham
Mr. Very Popular wrote:People looking to be butt hurt about this, get over it, the man stuck to his contract and did a great job in very hard circumstances, and has got the call from his country.
We were lucky to have him at all as he's made a lot of players that were floating along accountable and better.
I have no issue with that but just release them from their contracts with some compo from the SARFU then and move on.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:53 am
by earl the beaver
Lenny wrote:I see that Sky have lost the rights for the US PGA this year. They're losing a lot of premium events, and it's not going to get much easier for them if they don't broaden their subscription base through development of new ways of delivering their product. I think that this was the issue for the PGA rather than one of price.
Statement says that the PGA are moving away from a traditional TV deal. I hope they realise I don't want to watch it on my fücking laptop and pay through the nose to watch one or two groups or via snap chat or some shit.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:57 am
by sewa
Liathroidigloine wrote:How can Erasmus stay until December when it's shown he lied to Munster supporters?
Like you care :roll:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:59 am
by Mr. Very Popular
Rumham wrote:
Mr. Very Popular wrote:People looking to be butt hurt about this, get over it, the man stuck to his contract and did a great job in very hard circumstances, and has got the call from his country.
We were lucky to have him at all as he's made a lot of players that were floating along accountable and better.
I have no issue with that but just release them from their contracts with some compo from the SARFU then and move on.
I believe there's a few decent coaches in the mix and I doubt these lads will be able to walk away from their current contracts mid season, that stuff only happens in Ireland, so keeping 2 proven coaches at the helm until one of the other guys comes in is best for Munster, in my opinion anyway.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:06 am
by Diego
grimoald wrote:Jaeger came on for the Saders just there. Got a bit melted in one scrum, but outside looks a cracking player, running some really good tough lines, showing good hands and excellent body positions at the ruck.
Not ideal. Still, Munster or someone could do worse than pick him up you'd imagine.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:19 pm
by Brumby_in_Vic
Lazy Couch potato wrote:
Nolanator wrote:Has the new Pro12 format actually been published anywhere?

Rumoured today isn't it
Yeah supposed to be however there is talk that the Sharks want to join too

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:24 pm
by Lazy Couch potato
Add the sharks and go down to one Italian I wonder biv??

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:26 pm
by Brumby_in_Vic
Anyani was in Italy this week to have discussions with the FIR. Zebre were supposed to be moving down to Rome this coming season but it has gone all quiet. These players need to know what is going on

The Sharks will be a spanner in the works as they have been backed by Super Sport and have a history of buying Cheetahs players. Meyer Bosman, Coenie Oosthuizen, Ryan Pienaar, Jannie and Bismarck, Francois Steyn are big examples. SARU have done nothing to stop their unions from outbidding each other, that's why it is a mess and the Cheetahs have underperformed. Constantly rebuilding.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:32 pm
by Lazy Couch potato
Yeah I saw he was going there. Perhaps that's just me putting two n two together to get 47. One proper decent eyetie team and the sharks woul be far better obviously.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:35 pm
by Lazy Couch potato
I remember someone putting a "local " cheetahs team out recently.... serious talent pool.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:48 pm
by Brumby_in_Vic
Lazy Couch potato wrote:I remember someone putting a "local " cheetahs team out recently.... serious talent pool.
That was myself and the scary thing is that the bulk of those players are developed by two big Rugby schools.

If it is not Sharks signing their players it is the Bulls. This is why Australian and SA Rugby are struggling at Super Rugby level. It is more than poor coaching and skills.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:18 pm
by Rumham
Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Anyone else want to get on board the "Padraigh Harrington third British Open" hype train?
No interest in golf, but if he's in with a shout by Sunday let me know and I'll jump in feet first.
+7 over today so far :thumbdown:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:46 pm
by SASP
My baby brother is back in Rugby. He was far too good for any club here when he was young, trained with Ulster etc. Stopped playing for years as me Da had him playing GAA, and that pissed me off and all he go out of that was two knee injuries.

He's been working and living in Belfast for a few years now and was invited to train with Instonians. Back training yesterday. Fecking delighted, played mostly 9 and 10 as a kid. Hopefully the years away hasn't ruined him totally.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:47 pm
by unseenwork
SASP wrote:My baby brother is back in Rugby. He was far too good for any club here when he was young, trained with Ulster etc. Stopped playing for years as me Da had him playing GAA, and that pissed me off and all he go out of that was two knee injuries.

He's been working and living in Belfast for a few years now and was invited to train with Instonians. Back training yesterday. Fecking delighted, played mostly 9 and 10 as a kid. Hopefully the years away hasn't ruined him totally.
Oh fantastic! We could certainly do with some options at 10, hopefully it works out for him.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:53 pm
by SASP
May take him a while to get back up to speed.
Hopefully he can show a bit.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:59 pm
by unseenwork
SASP wrote:May take him a while to get back up to speed.
Hopefully he can show a bit.
Will be interesting what he makes of Andress and Roger as coaches.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:18 pm
by Risteard
SASP wrote:My baby brother is back in Rugby. He was far too good for any club here when he was young, trained with Ulster etc. Stopped playing for years as me Da had him playing GAA, and that pissed me off and all he go out of that was two knee injuries.

He's been working and living in Belfast for a few years now and was invited to train with Instonians. Back training yesterday. Fecking delighted, played mostly 9 and 10 as a kid. Hopefully the years away hasn't ruined him totally.
Been trying to get my brother to go down to my club at home but no hope of it. Gah head. His two/three seasons underage is it.