Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:33 pm
Nah, 4 year extension. Clive Ross is building it for him.Porterbelly1 wrote:Kiss gone?
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Nah, 4 year extension. Clive Ross is building it for him.Porterbelly1 wrote:Kiss gone?
WoC said so on twitter but I’d take that with a huge pinch of salt. He did hint at wholesale changes which would be necessary including a few contracts ripped upPorterbelly1 wrote:Kiss gone?
Wouldn't think they're the most reliable of sources now, but hey I suppose you never know.DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:WoC said so on twitter but I’d take that with a huge pinch of salt. He did hint at wholesale changes which would be necessary including a few contracts ripped upPorterbelly1 wrote:Kiss gone?
Treadwellunseenwork wrote:Wouldn't think they're the most reliable of sources now, but hey I suppose you never know.DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:WoC said so on twitter but I’d take that with a huge pinch of salt. He did hint at wholesale changes which would be necessary including a few contracts ripped upPorterbelly1 wrote:Kiss gone?
Contracts to rip up?
VDM
Deysel
Coetzee (Probably won't happen)
Marshall (Probably won't happen)
Warwick
Diack
Browne
Treadwell (Probably won't happen)
Herron (Already ripped up)
He's crap! A waste of a jersey! Sooner he's gone the better.irishrugbyua wrote:Treadwellunseenwork wrote:Wouldn't think they're the most reliable of sources now, but hey I suppose you never know.DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:WoC said so on twitter but I’d take that with a huge pinch of salt. He did hint at wholesale changes which would be necessary including a few contracts ripped upPorterbelly1 wrote:Kiss gone?
Contracts to rip up?
VDM
Deysel
Coetzee (Probably won't happen)
Marshall (Probably won't happen)
Warwick
Diack
Browne
Treadwell (Probably won't happen)
Herron (Already ripped up)
Luckycharmer wrote:So who are the lads to look out for? Who will be starting 10 is Harry byrne a clone of his brother or different kind of 10?irishrugbyua wrote:Ireland u20 squad announced.
Prop
Jordan Duggan(Naas/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Jack Aungier(St. Marys/Leinster)
Joe Byrne(DUFC/Leinster)
James French(UCC/Munster)
Tom O'Toole(Bnbridge/Ulster)
Hooker
Ronan Kelleher(Lansdowne/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Diarmaid Barron(Garryowen/Munster) - capped as a u19
Second Row
Jack Dunne(DUFC/Leinster)
Cormac Daly(Clontarf/Leinster)
Charlie Ryan(UCD/Leinster) - u19
Matthew Dalton(Malone/Ulster)
Ronan Coffey(Shannon/Munster)
Backrow
Sean Masterson(Corinthians/Connacht) - capped as a u19
Joe Dunleavy(Malone/Ulster)
Aaron Hall(Ballynhinch/Ulster)
Matthew Agnew(Ballymena/Ulster)
Max Kearney(DUFC/Leinster)
Jack O'Sullivan(UCC/Munster)
Scrumhalf
Jonny Stewart(Queens/Ulster) - capped as a u19
Hugh O'Sullivan(Clontarf/Leinster)
Outhalf
Conor Dean(St. Marys/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Angus Curtis(Queens/Ulster) - capped as a u19
Harry Byrne(UCD/Leinster) - u19
Outside Backs
Tommy O'Brien(UCD/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Sean O'Brien(Clontarf/Leinster)
David McCarthy(Garryowen/Munster) - capped as a u19
Angus Kernohan(Ballymena/Ulster) - u19
Michael Silvester(DUFC/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Peter Sullivan(Lansdowne/Leinster)
James McCarthy(UL Bohs/Munster) - u19
Mark Keane(Queens/Ulster) - capped as a u19
Conor Hayes(Young Munster/Munster)
Only Logan or this committee that they keep drumming on about on UAFC would have the power to do that. Cunningham surely, would not be any further up the ladder than Kiss?DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:WoC said so on twitter but I’d take that with a huge pinch of salt. He did hint at wholesale changes which would be necessary including a few contracts ripped upPorterbelly1 wrote:Kiss gone?
Didn’t you make us all hop on the John Donnan hype train?Willie Falloon wrote:Luckycharmer wrote:So who are the lads to look out for? Who will be starting 10 is Harry byrne a clone of his brother or different kind of 10?irishrugbyua wrote:Ireland u20 squad announced.
Prop
Jordan Duggan(Naas/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Jack Aungier(St. Marys/Leinster)
Joe Byrne(DUFC/Leinster)
James French(UCC/Munster)
Tom O'Toole(Bnbridge/Ulster)
Hooker
Ronan Kelleher(Lansdowne/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Diarmaid Barron(Garryowen/Munster) - capped as a u19
Second Row
Jack Dunne(DUFC/Leinster)
Cormac Daly(Clontarf/Leinster)
Charlie Ryan(UCD/Leinster) - u19
Matthew Dalton(Malone/Ulster)
Ronan Coffey(Shannon/Munster)
Backrow
Sean Masterson(Corinthians/Connacht) - capped as a u19
Joe Dunleavy(Malone/Ulster)
Aaron Hall(Ballynhinch/Ulster)
Matthew Agnew(Ballymena/Ulster)
Max Kearney(DUFC/Leinster)
Jack O'Sullivan(UCC/Munster)
Scrumhalf
Jonny Stewart(Queens/Ulster) - capped as a u19
Hugh O'Sullivan(Clontarf/Leinster)
Outhalf
Conor Dean(St. Marys/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Angus Curtis(Queens/Ulster) - capped as a u19
Harry Byrne(UCD/Leinster) - u19
Outside Backs
Tommy O'Brien(UCD/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Sean O'Brien(Clontarf/Leinster)
David McCarthy(Garryowen/Munster) - capped as a u19
Angus Kernohan(Ballymena/Ulster) - u19
Michael Silvester(DUFC/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Peter Sullivan(Lansdowne/Leinster)
James McCarthy(UL Bohs/Munster) - u19
Mark Keane(Queens/Ulster) - capped as a u19
Conor Hayes(Young Munster/Munster)
Dalton has already played for Ulster at lock. He's a pretty special talent, in my humble opinion, future Irish international and maybe even further!!!!
Missing Ulster players include Lowry at 10 and Hume at 13, both of whom would be in contention to start. Clarke also missing at hooker???
The contracts i was specifically referring to were the NIQs but yeah. Deysel, VDM, Herron, Warwick absolutely. Wouldn't rip up Treadwell despite his form. Malone should go. Coetzee i think we need to take the chance with because we wont get anyone better but three well recruited NIQs would seriously help matters. Anderson seems to have a grip on the A's forwards who are by far the more polished unit. We need to pillage Leinster for Dooley and promote our A props. We need to integrate our backrows from a position of strength instead of throwing them in en masseunseenwork wrote:Wouldn't think they're the most reliable of sources now, but hey I suppose you never know.DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:WoC said so on twitter but I’d take that with a huge pinch of salt. He did hint at wholesale changes which would be necessary including a few contracts ripped upPorterbelly1 wrote:Kiss gone?
Contracts to rip up?
VDM
Deysel
Coetzee (Probably won't happen)
Marshall (Probably won't happen)
Warwick
Diack
Browne
Treadwell (Probably won't happen)
Herron (Already ripped up)
Niall Malone
Keep an eye on Kieran Campbell, the Ulster A team has been doing well but I remain sceptical about how he's handled certain things in the academy.
Outside of a couple of proven performers (Best, Hendie and maybe Herring and AOC), he's working with a bunch of bang average or outright poor guys (Black, Ah You, NDCR, etc) or guys who are still categorised as "having potential" (Rea, Timoney) who aren't yet the finished article.Willie Falloon wrote:Only Logan or this committee that they keep drumming on about on UAFC would have the power to do that. Cunningham surely, would not be any further up the ladder than Kiss?DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:WoC said so on twitter but I’d take that with a huge pinch of salt. He did hint at wholesale changes which would be necessary including a few contracts ripped upPorterbelly1 wrote:Kiss gone?
If Les does go, I wonder should they take a risk with Gibbs or get someone else in. I have been less than impressed with Gibbs' impact on the pack.
I thought John Donnan was going to be a good player for Ulster, he then had a number of long term injuries after underage level.Banana Man wrote:Didn’t you make us all hop on the John Donnan hype train?Willie Falloon wrote:Luckycharmer wrote:So who are the lads to look out for? Who will be starting 10 is Harry byrne a clone of his brother or different kind of 10?irishrugbyua wrote:Ireland u20 squad announced.
Prop
Jordan Duggan(Naas/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Jack Aungier(St. Marys/Leinster)
Joe Byrne(DUFC/Leinster)
James French(UCC/Munster)
Tom O'Toole(Bnbridge/Ulster)
Hooker
Ronan Kelleher(Lansdowne/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Diarmaid Barron(Garryowen/Munster) - capped as a u19
Second Row
Jack Dunne(DUFC/Leinster)
Cormac Daly(Clontarf/Leinster)
Charlie Ryan(UCD/Leinster) - u19
Matthew Dalton(Malone/Ulster)
Ronan Coffey(Shannon/Munster)
Backrow
Sean Masterson(Corinthians/Connacht) - capped as a u19
Joe Dunleavy(Malone/Ulster)
Aaron Hall(Ballynhinch/Ulster)
Matthew Agnew(Ballymena/Ulster)
Max Kearney(DUFC/Leinster)
Jack O'Sullivan(UCC/Munster)
Scrumhalf
Jonny Stewart(Queens/Ulster) - capped as a u19
Hugh O'Sullivan(Clontarf/Leinster)
Outhalf
Conor Dean(St. Marys/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Angus Curtis(Queens/Ulster) - capped as a u19
Harry Byrne(UCD/Leinster) - u19
Outside Backs
Tommy O'Brien(UCD/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Sean O'Brien(Clontarf/Leinster)
David McCarthy(Garryowen/Munster) - capped as a u19
Angus Kernohan(Ballymena/Ulster) - u19
Michael Silvester(DUFC/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Peter Sullivan(Lansdowne/Leinster)
James McCarthy(UL Bohs/Munster) - u19
Mark Keane(Queens/Ulster) - capped as a u19
Conor Hayes(Young Munster/Munster)
Dalton has already played for Ulster at lock. He's a pretty special talent, in my humble opinion, future Irish international and maybe even further!!!!
Missing Ulster players include Lowry at 10 and Hume at 13, both of whom would be in contention to start. Clarke also missing at hooker???
Lions player in waiting. Ah now.
I don't know how they train but if you looked at the A team theres some decent youngsters who look like Gibbes has had a bit of them. It does look like there are multiple forces (positive and negative) at work with the pack. When in the frame the rucking is much much better than its been in years. We do suffer from Best being the only threat over the ball. Henry just is succumbing to father time sadlyNolanator wrote:Outside of a couple of proven performers (Best, Hendie and maybe Herring and AOC), he's working with a bunch of bang average or outright poor guys (Black, Ah You, NDCR, etc) or guys who are still categorised as "having potential" (Rea, Timoney) who aren't yet the finished article.Willie Falloon wrote:Only Logan or this committee that they keep drumming on about on UAFC would have the power to do that. Cunningham surely, would not be any further up the ladder than Kiss?DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:WoC said so on twitter but I’d take that with a huge pinch of salt. He did hint at wholesale changes which would be necessary including a few contracts ripped upPorterbelly1 wrote:Kiss gone?
If Les does go, I wonder should they take a risk with Gibbs or get someone else in. I have been less than impressed with Gibbs' impact on the pack.
He can only polish a turd so much.
You hyped him more than that!Willie Falloon wrote:I thought John Donnan was going to be a good player for Ulster, he then had a number of long term injuries after underage level.Banana Man wrote:Didn’t you make us all hop on the John Donnan hype train?Willie Falloon wrote:Luckycharmer wrote:So who are the lads to look out for? Who will be starting 10 is Harry byrne a clone of his brother or different kind of 10?irishrugbyua wrote:Ireland u20 squad announced.
Prop
Jordan Duggan(Naas/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Jack Aungier(St. Marys/Leinster)
Joe Byrne(DUFC/Leinster)
James French(UCC/Munster)
Tom O'Toole(Bnbridge/Ulster)
Hooker
Ronan Kelleher(Lansdowne/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Diarmaid Barron(Garryowen/Munster) - capped as a u19
Second Row
Jack Dunne(DUFC/Leinster)
Cormac Daly(Clontarf/Leinster)
Charlie Ryan(UCD/Leinster) - u19
Matthew Dalton(Malone/Ulster)
Ronan Coffey(Shannon/Munster)
Backrow
Sean Masterson(Corinthians/Connacht) - capped as a u19
Joe Dunleavy(Malone/Ulster)
Aaron Hall(Ballynhinch/Ulster)
Matthew Agnew(Ballymena/Ulster)
Max Kearney(DUFC/Leinster)
Jack O'Sullivan(UCC/Munster)
Scrumhalf
Jonny Stewart(Queens/Ulster) - capped as a u19
Hugh O'Sullivan(Clontarf/Leinster)
Outhalf
Conor Dean(St. Marys/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Angus Curtis(Queens/Ulster) - capped as a u19
Harry Byrne(UCD/Leinster) - u19
Outside Backs
Tommy O'Brien(UCD/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Sean O'Brien(Clontarf/Leinster)
David McCarthy(Garryowen/Munster) - capped as a u19
Angus Kernohan(Ballymena/Ulster) - u19
Michael Silvester(DUFC/Leinster) - capped as a u19
Peter Sullivan(Lansdowne/Leinster)
James McCarthy(UL Bohs/Munster) - u19
Mark Keane(Queens/Ulster) - capped as a u19
Conor Hayes(Young Munster/Munster)
Dalton has already played for Ulster at lock. He's a pretty special talent, in my humble opinion, future Irish international and maybe even further!!!!
Missing Ulster players include Lowry at 10 and Hume at 13, both of whom would be in contention to start. Clarke also missing at hooker???
Lions player in waiting. Ah now.
They missed the Grobler stuff last summer pretty badly then.Uncle Fester wrote:He's right though. There are journalists lurking on this bored and they do lift stories/rumours from here, particularly from one paper that has a Sunday edition.Armchair_Superstar wrote:Stats just wants to be a mod so badly.
SASP turn him green for a minute there, it'll make his 2018.
Say nothing.
Playing for Ulster is higher up than an U20s game, or it least it used to be!Banana Man wrote:You hyped him more than that!Willie Falloon wrote:I thought John Donnan was going to be a good player for Ulster, he then had a number of long term injuries after underage level.Banana Man wrote:Didn’t you make us all hop on the John Donnan hype train?Willie Falloon wrote:Luckycharmer wrote:
So who are the lads to look out for? Who will be starting 10 is Harry byrne a clone of his brother or different kind of 10?
Dalton has already played for Ulster at lock. He's a pretty special talent, in my humble opinion, future Irish international and maybe even further!!!!
Missing Ulster players include Lowry at 10 and Hume at 13, both of whom would be in contention to start. Clarke also missing at hooker???
Lions player in waiting. Ah now.
I’m in no position after my words on Greg O’Shea
But given Ulster’s track record with forwards and the fact so inexperienced. Don’t think we can put any player as “higher than Ireland” before even playing a 20s game.
There won't be room for too many more on the heap if Rodney's there already.unseenwork wrote:Forgot Rodney, but his contract should be up at this season and hopefully won't be renewed. I would consider throwing Herbst on the scrapheap as well.
RBAI would have 3 but for circumstances, possibly up to even 5.irishrugbyua wrote:Of last seasons SCT winners the following players made the ireland u20 squad:
Belvedere - Max Kearney, Hugh O'Sullivan
PBC Cork - Jack O'Sullivan
RBAI - None
Coláiste Iognáid - None
He's not really what Ulster need.Brumby_in_Vic wrote:Yes Leiliifano's contract is up. Can't see him leaving though due to his support networks and young family.
suppose in theory they could have..unseenwork wrote:RBAI would have 3 but for circumstances, possibly up to even 5.irishrugbyua wrote:Of last seasons SCT winners the following players made the ireland u20 squad:
Belvedere - Max Kearney, Hugh O'Sullivan
PBC Cork - Jack O'Sullivan
RBAI - None
Coláiste Iognáid - None
RBAI would have had 2 if Lowry and Hume were fit. Callum Reid, if he kept at it, wouldn't have been too far away either. The RABI FB, Joe Finnegan wouldn't have been far away either and O'Donnell would be there if not for his (aledged) fallout with Campbell. I expect Reid to be a star next year, as long as he keeps his involvement within the game.irishrugbyua wrote:Of last seasons SCT winners the following players made the ireland u20 squad:
Belvedere - Max Kearney, Hugh O'Sullivan
PBC Cork - Jack O'Sullivan
RBAI - None
Coláiste Iognáid - None
Hume and Lowry locked in, had Reid just decided to join the academy then he would have been probably a guaranteed starter, Finnegan I think would have been in with a very good shot at it had he continued rugby, and had things worked out with O'Donnell he would have had an excellent chance of being in there.irishrugbyua wrote:suppose in theory they could have..unseenwork wrote:RBAI would have 3 but for circumstances, possibly up to even 5.irishrugbyua wrote:Of last seasons SCT winners the following players made the ireland u20 squad:
Belvedere - Max Kearney, Hugh O'Sullivan
PBC Cork - Jack O'Sullivan
RBAI - None
Coláiste Iognáid - None
Reid is clearly still playing.. so hope still there for next seasonWillie Falloon wrote:RBAI would have had 2 if Lowry and Hume were fit. Callum Reid, if he kept at it, wouldn't have been too far away either.irishrugbyua wrote:Of last seasons SCT winners the following players made the ireland u20 squad:
Belvedere - Max Kearney, Hugh O'Sullivan
PBC Cork - Jack O'Sullivan
RBAI - None
Coláiste Iognáid - None
More than likely not i agree but Who is available? Sopoaga would have been perfectunseenwork wrote:He's not really what Ulster need.Brumby_in_Vic wrote:Yes Leiliifano's contract is up. Can't see him leaving though due to his support networks and young family.
yeah as i said in theory they could have had.unseenwork wrote:Hume and Lowry locked in, had Reid just decided to join the academy then he would have been probably a guaranteed starter, Finnegan I think would have been in with a very good shot at it had he continued rugby, and had things worked out with O'Donnell he would have had an excellent chance of being in there.irishrugbyua wrote:suppose in theory they could have..unseenwork wrote:RBAI would have 3 but for circumstances, possibly up to even 5.irishrugbyua wrote:Of last seasons SCT winners the following players made the ireland u20 squad:
Belvedere - Max Kearney, Hugh O'Sullivan
PBC Cork - Jack O'Sullivan
RBAI - None
Coláiste Iognáid - None
well he is only on a gap year in nz so maybe he can come back into the fold next season.unseenwork wrote:Finnegan really was really rather good, supreme athlete.
Gibbes seems to just be forwards coach.goose81 wrote:I'm confused, I thought gibbes was brought in to be the coach with kiss heading upstairs just overseeing everything?
Who's doing what atm..
Kiss is DOR and still the head coach, he selects the team.goose81 wrote:I'm confused, I thought gibbes was brought in to be the coach with kiss heading upstairs just overseeing everything?
Who's doing what atm..
Hmm, possibly, wouldn't be surprised to see him togging out for Instonians to begin with. If he's still interested in rugby that is.irishrugbyua wrote:well he is only on a gap year in nz so maybe he can come back into the fold next season.unseenwork wrote:Finnegan really was really rather good, supreme athlete.
Willie Falloon wrote:Kiss is DOR and still the head coach, he selects the team.goose81 wrote:I'm confused, I thought gibbes was brought in to be the coach with kiss heading upstairs just overseeing everything?
Who's doing what atm..
Gibbes I believe was only named head coach as he had a clause in his Clermont contract that enabled him to be released for a Head coach role. He is essentially the forwards coach, only.
Everything really is binary with you isnt itunseenwork wrote:He's crap! A waste of a jersey! Sooner he's gone the better.irishrugbyua wrote:Treadwellunseenwork wrote:Wouldn't think they're the most reliable of sources now, but hey I suppose you never know.DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:WoC said so on twitter but I’d take that with a huge pinch of salt. He did hint at wholesale changes which would be necessary including a few contracts ripped upPorterbelly1 wrote:Kiss gone?
Contracts to rip up?
VDM
Deysel
Coetzee (Probably won't happen)
Marshall (Probably won't happen)
Warwick
Diack
Browne
Treadwell (Probably won't happen)
Herron (Already ripped up)
Never liked the lad.Ulsters Red Hand wrote: Everything really is binary with you isnt it