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Yer Man wrote:

hermie wrote:

Yer Man wrote:

hermie wrote:Hard to see Beirne playing much at 6 for Munster. Doesn't totally rule him out of playing there for Ireland (Carbery) but it lessens the chances.

I could see Beirne coming into the Ireland squad at #19, usually covering lock but with the option of 6.
And with Henderson in the team as well we can have a 7/8 cover at #20.

Beirne can play 6 and 8 so you can have an out and out 7 on the bench without any concerns, which will be nice.

Just think, Eddie Jones would probably pick:

4 - Toner
5 - Ryan
6 - Henderson
7 - not an openside
8 - Beirne

CM11 wrote:Schmidt would make it work.

Thing is that you still have a fantastic presence at ruck time with Beirne.

Yer Man wrote:

hermie wrote:

Yer Man wrote:

hermie wrote:Hard to see Beirne playing much at 6 for Munster. Doesn't totally rule him out of playing there for Ireland (Carbery) but it lessens the chances.

I could see Beirne coming into the Ireland squad at #19, usually covering lock but with the option of 6.
And with Henderson in the team as well we can have a 7/8 cover at #20.

Beirne can play 6 and 8 so you can have an out and out 7 on the bench without any concerns, which will be nice.

Just think, Eddie Jones would probably pick:

4 - Toner
5 - Ryan
6 - Henderson
7 - not an openside
8 - Beirne

unseenwork wrote:

CM11 wrote:Schmidt would make it work.

Thing is that you still have a fantastic presence at ruck time with Beirne.

Henderson ain't too shabby there either.

Yer Man wrote:Tbf Henderson, Ruddock and Beirne are probably all better at the breakdown than Lawes, Robshaw and Hughes.

camroc1 wrote:

Yer Man wrote:Tbf Henderson, Ruddock and Beirne are probably all better at the breakdown than Lawes, Robshaw and Hughes.

The Premiership reffing allowing no contest at the breakdown coming back to bite them in the arse ?

camroc1 wrote:

CM11 wrote:

fishooks15 wrote:Kearney has had some career. Good to see him put in a performance yesterday too as he was utterly dogshit for the first three.

He was not 'dogshit' or anything close in his first 3 games.

Why does everything have to be distilled down to either shite or brilliant on here?

Generally has to do with the colour of their provincial jumper, CM.

redderneck wrote:I'd like to see us look for more from the FB as playmaker/attacker - but has to be said; one of Seniors best games in a long while.

Moving on.

The pigdogs are muttering dark thoughts about preserving the integrity of the AP whilst wishing they were us really, when all is said and done.

Are there horses doing things to their royal family somewhere this week as well?

Duff Paddy wrote:The scoreline really flattered us.
Our pack is very good, with good depth.
Leavy played well but got absolutely left for dead early in the second half - and it happened against Wales as well.
Ringrose was the best player on the pitch.
Kearney man of the match was bizarre.
Our backs looked so blunt compared to Scotland, we really need some pace from full back.
Stockdale is a serious liability in defence, he needs to improve there.

fishooks15 wrote:

camroc1 wrote:

CM11 wrote:

fishooks15 wrote:Kearney has had some career. Good to see him put in a performance yesterday too as he was utterly dogshit for the first three.

He was not 'dogshit' or anything close in his first 3 games.

Why does everything have to be distilled down to either shite or brilliant on here?

Generally has to do with the colour of their provincial jumper, CM.

Not really tbh, I'd be saying the same thing if he was Munster player. He just wasn't at the races for the first three games, poor in the air and poor with ball in hand. If we had any alternative he surely wouldn't have even got the chance to play against Scotland

Not every critique of a Leinster player is mired in some provincial bias, even if saying he was 'dogshite' was somewhat hyperbolic.

Duff Paddy wrote:We’re good but the top teams will see our vulnerability in broken play. Gatland reckons any team who can keep the ball in play for longer than 43minutes can beat Ireland.

paddyor wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:We’re good but the top teams will see our vulnerability in broken play. Gatland reckons any team who can keep the ball in play for longer than 43minutes can beat Ireland.

Given a try knocks about 1.5-2 minutes off the clock, Gatland might have added that if Ireland score 4 tries they're likely to win. THere was 7 tries in total before the interception. Thats not including penalties which are about 1 minute. The score in last seasons game was 15-9 until the Roberts charge down. He's talking shite.

CM11 wrote:I see the players are in line for a 70k bonus for a GS win. I presume that's the 23 who tog out? Which is massive, to be honest. It wipes out the IRFU's windfall for a GS (1.2m) and eats into the championship prize money (5m).

danthefan wrote:

CM11 wrote:I see the players are in line for a 70k bonus for a GS win. I presume that's the 23 who tog out? Which is massive, to be honest. It wipes out the IRFU's windfall for a GS (1.2m) and eats into the championship prize money (5m).

I bet you the IRFU have some sort of insurance against it.

CM11 wrote:I see the players are in line for a 70k bonus for a GS win. I presume that's the 23 who tog out? Which is massive, to be honest. It wipes out the IRFU's windfall for a GS (1.2m) and eats into the championship prize money (5m).

Yer Man wrote:

grimoald wrote:Toner had a very good game, but it isn't a coincidence a couple of turnovers came when he missed the clearout - I remember 2, but the first was definitely on Watson after the Ringrose break.

First turnover pen that I remember had Ringrose and Toner going in to clear out.
Ringrose flat out missed the man, Toner couldn't manage to clear him - I think he'd been expecting a helper on the other side.
By the time the third man got there (Stander?) and helped Toner with the clearout, Barnes had called pen.

Best clearout of the entire match was a Toner effort in the first half on our left wing.
Scot reaches over for the ball, Toner just grabs him by the body (reaches past the arms/armpits) and wrenches them both away from the ruck.
Almost judo style.


It was one of the features of the game, we consistently cleared them out with only one or two men.
England simply couldn't do that in Paris.

Liathroidigloine wrote:We all know that we are going to be put through the grinder on Saturday, don't we?

I don't know whether to head for a walk in the hills with no reception for a few hours.

Willie Falloon wrote:

danthefan wrote:

Willie Falloon wrote:

danthefan wrote:We lost two early lineouts but it was fine after that.

Plus Henderson just can't call the lineout.

Henderson is Irelands lineout caller when he is starting. It's between himself and Toner.

Nope he can't do it. Just not able.

You must be thick like Mullet.

paddyor wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:The scoreline really flattered us.
Our pack is very good, with good depth.
Leavy played well but got absolutely left for dead early in the second half - and it happened against Wales as well.
Ringrose was the best player on the pitch.
Kearney man of the match was bizarre.
Our backs looked so blunt compared to Scotland, we really need some pace from full back.
Stockdale is a serious liability in defence, he needs to improve there.

The ones who butchered more chances than ours?

Uncle Fester wrote:

Willie Falloon wrote:

danthefan wrote:

Willie Falloon wrote:

danthefan wrote:We lost two early lineouts but it was fine after that.

Plus Henderson just can't call the lineout.

Henderson is Irelands lineout caller when he is starting. It's between himself and Toner.

Nope he can't do it. Just not able.

You must be thick like Mullet.

Honestly I love Henderson but I'd rather have Keet bellowing in the call from the far touch line than Henderson calling it.

TheBouncer wrote:Furlong is no joke my goodness

The carrying from our tight 5 blends so well with the flankers who've made hay on the deck every week.

Yer Man wrote:

paddyor wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:The scoreline really flattered us.
Our pack is very good, with good depth.
Leavy played well but got absolutely left for dead early in the second half - and it happened against Wales as well.
Ringrose was the best player on the pitch.
Kearney man of the match was bizarre.
Our backs looked so blunt compared to Scotland, we really need some pace from full back.
Stockdale is a serious liability in defence, he needs to improve there.

The ones who butchered more chances than ours?

Scotland's attack was so sharp they cut themselves.

Jim Lahey wrote:Anything other than a win on Saturday has to go down as a choke imo.
We are in form and England have been playing like a sack of shite all tournament.
We haven't had this type of expectation in a while, long may it continue

Uncle Fester wrote:

Jim Lahey wrote:Anything other than a win on Saturday has to go down as a choke imo.
We are in form and England have been playing like a sack of shite all tournament.
We haven't had this type of expectation in a while, long may it continue

The only away win in this tournament (other than Rome) was us in Paris. Lightning doesn't strike twice.

Uncle Fester wrote:

Willie Falloon wrote:

danthefan wrote:

Willie Falloon wrote:

danthefan wrote:We lost two early lineouts but it was fine after that.

Plus Henderson just can't call the lineout.

Henderson is Irelands lineout caller when he is starting. It's between himself and Toner.

Nope he can't do it. Just not able.

You must be thick like Mullet.

Honestly I love Henderson but I'd rather have Keet bellowing in the call from the far touch line than Henderson calling it.

Floppykid wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

Jim Lahey wrote:Anything other than a win on Saturday has to go down as a choke imo.
We are in form and England have been playing like a sack of shite all tournament.
We haven't had this type of expectation in a while, long may it continue

The only away win in this tournament (other than Rome) was us in Paris. Lightning doesn't strike twice.

How does anyone ever win a grandslam if that's the case?

danthefan wrote:It's not quite SOB clearing out the entire French pack but not bad from Ryan here. Hint of a neck roll I guess which isn't ideal.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/973161546108030976

danthefan wrote:It's not quite SOB clearing out the entire French pack but not bad from Ryan here. Hint of a neck roll I guess which isn't ideal.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/973161546108030976

Hellraiser wrote:

CM11 wrote:I see the players are in line for a 70k bonus for a GS win. I presume that's the 23 who tog out? Which is massive, to be honest. It wipes out the IRFU's windfall for a GS (1.2m) and eats into the championship prize money (5m).

I believe it's possible to take out insurance against the possibility. I'd also say the €70k is for any player that featured during the competition. Also you have to factor in the sponsor bonuses.