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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:25 pm
by Ulsters Red Hand
Gilroy could be an option for the summer tour, he's been one of the best wingers in Ireland recently

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:16 pm
by Yer Man
Bored only just back up?

Anyone checked for Russian nerve agents?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:17 pm
by Banana Man
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:Gilroy could be an option for the summer tour, he's been one of the best wingers in Ireland recently
Eh.... he's played 4 games this calendar year? And one of them was like for 6 minutes?? Hasn't played in over a month.

Or do you mean like in recent times (past few years)??

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:17 pm
by Banana Man
Kyle Godwin signing for Connacht - good player but more a 12 than a 10 - need at 10 hasn't gone away

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:24 pm
by earl the beaver
Banana Man wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:Gilroy could be an option for the summer tour, he's been one of the best wingers in Ireland recently
Eh.... he's played 4 games this calendar year? And one of them was like for 6 minutes?? Hasn't played in over a month.

Or do you mean like in recent times (past few years)??
He's been injured a lot but he's been very good when he has played, just like last year.

I think if Earls is out and he is fit then he has every chance of touring in the summer.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:29 pm
by Banana Man
earl the beaver wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:Gilroy could be an option for the summer tour, he's been one of the best wingers in Ireland recently
Eh.... he's played 4 games this calendar year? And one of them was like for 6 minutes?? Hasn't played in over a month.

Or do you mean like in recent times (past few years)??
He's been injured a lot but he's been very good when he has played, just like last year.

I think if Earls is out and he is fit then he has every chance of touring in the summer.
I haven't seen a whole pile of him but did see Munster and La Rochelle games - but that being said 3 full games in 2018 - vrs Munster B, then La Rochelle, Southern Kings (where he got a hat trick to be fair) - isn't one of the best "winger stuff"

I just think he has too many chinks in his game for Schmidt, doesn't make him a bad player and no more than I would back my own, you do yours. But would be surprised to see him tour. That ship has sailed I think

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:29 pm
by feckwanker
earl the beaver wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:Gilroy could be an option for the summer tour, he's been one of the best wingers in Ireland recently
Eh.... he's played 4 games this calendar year? And one of them was like for 6 minutes?? Hasn't played in over a month.

Or do you mean like in recent times (past few years)??
He's been injured a lot but he's been very good when he has played, just like last year.

I think if Earls is out and he is fit then he has every chance of touring in the summer.
His face doesn't fit, Schmidt doesn't rate him, etc.......

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:31 pm
by earl the beaver
Banana Man wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:Gilroy could be an option for the summer tour, he's been one of the best wingers in Ireland recently
Eh.... he's played 4 games this calendar year? And one of them was like for 6 minutes?? Hasn't played in over a month.

Or do you mean like in recent times (past few years)??
He's been injured a lot but he's been very good when he has played, just like last year.

I think if Earls is out and he is fit then he has every chance of touring in the summer.
I haven't seen a whole pile of him but did see Munster and La Rochelle games - but that being said 3 full games in 2018 - vrs Munster B, then La Rochelle, Southern Kings (where he got a hat trick to be fair) - isn't one of the best "winger stuff"

I just think he has too many chinks in his game for Schmidt, doesn't make him a bad player and no more than I would back my own, you do yours. But would be surprised to see him tour. That ship has sailed I think
I don't think it has and honestly I think any talk of chinks in his game is completely overblown, he's a very well rounded winger who knows how to score tries.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:31 pm
by Lazy Couch potato
Godwin isn’t a kicker tho is he?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:32 pm
by fishooks15
The job Schmidt has done with James Ryan is nothing short of spectacular

Obviously identified him from the JWC, fast-tracked him into the squad and gave him meaningful game-time immediately on the tour last summer

Like the guy simply hasn't played that often for Leinster so no one would have batted an eyelid if he was left out of contention but he gets put straight in against France and goes on to be one of our best players of the tournament

Same deal with Porter to a lesser extent.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:32 pm
by Banana Man
earl the beaver wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:Gilroy could be an option for the summer tour, he's been one of the best wingers in Ireland recently
Eh.... he's played 4 games this calendar year? And one of them was like for 6 minutes?? Hasn't played in over a month.

Or do you mean like in recent times (past few years)??
He's been injured a lot but he's been very good when he has played, just like last year.

I think if Earls is out and he is fit then he has every chance of touring in the summer.
I haven't seen a whole pile of him but did see Munster and La Rochelle games - but that being said 3 full games in 2018 - vrs Munster B, then La Rochelle, Southern Kings (where he got a hat trick to be fair) - isn't one of the best "winger stuff"

I just think he has too many chinks in his game for Schmidt, doesn't make him a bad player and no more than I would back my own, you do yours. But would be surprised to see him tour. That ship has sailed I think
I don't think it has and honestly I think any talk of chinks in his game is completely overblown, he's a very well rounded winger who knows how to score tries.
And I do - one of us will be proven right and the other wrong.

I don't believe he is well rounded winger - outstanding going one way, less so the other IMO.

Opinions like arseholes etc

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:34 pm
by earl the beaver
Banana Man wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
earl the beaver wrote: He's been injured a lot but he's been very good when he has played, just like last year.

I think if Earls is out and he is fit then he has every chance of touring in the summer.
I haven't seen a whole pile of him but did see Munster and La Rochelle games - but that being said 3 full games in 2018 - vrs Munster B, then La Rochelle, Southern Kings (where he got a hat trick to be fair) - isn't one of the best "winger stuff"

I just think he has too many chinks in his game for Schmidt, doesn't make him a bad player and no more than I would back my own, you do yours. But would be surprised to see him tour. That ship has sailed I think
I don't think it has and honestly I think any talk of chinks in his game is completely overblown, he's a very well rounded winger who knows how to score tries.
And I do - one of us will be proven right and the other wrong.

I don't believe he is well rounded winger - outstanding going one way, less so the other IMO.

Opinions like arseholes etc
I know it's your opinion but I just can't agree in any form, his defence has improved massively over the past few years and was never remotely as bad as made out.

He's good under the high ball, tackles solidly, has a great step and decent speed. Main weakness is his boot.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:38 pm
by Banana Man
earl the beaver wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
earl the beaver wrote: He's been injured a lot but he's been very good when he has played, just like last year.

I think if Earls is out and he is fit then he has every chance of touring in the summer.
I haven't seen a whole pile of him but did see Munster and La Rochelle games - but that being said 3 full games in 2018 - vrs Munster B, then La Rochelle, Southern Kings (where he got a hat trick to be fair) - isn't one of the best "winger stuff"

I just think he has too many chinks in his game for Schmidt, doesn't make him a bad player and no more than I would back my own, you do yours. But would be surprised to see him tour. That ship has sailed I think
I don't think it has and honestly I think any talk of chinks in his game is completely overblown, he's a very well rounded winger who knows how to score tries.
And I do - one of us will be proven right and the other wrong.

I don't believe he is well rounded winger - outstanding going one way, less so the other IMO.

Opinions like arseholes etc
I know it's your opinion but I just can't agree in any form, his defence has improved massively over the past few years and was never remotely as bad as made out.

He's good under the high ball, tackles solidly, has a great step and decent speed. Main weakness is his boot.
We can go around the merry go round here all day -

I think his defence was as poor as being made out - limited by Cave being a good drift defender and Payne also at the back being excellent there.

Going forward he's as natural as they come. I think he is so/so on high ball and my feeling on his defence above, positioning wise he gets exploited and leaks soft yards.

He's not being picked for a reason.

I obviously don't want him to do badly if he is in green but don't believe he would add anything that we don't have to a RWC squad. His game hasn't significantly improved to merit him being picked.

Agree to disagree

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:38 pm
by danthefan
Dave Kearney will come in for Earls if there's any justice.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:46 pm
by Banana Man
Hendo and Kearney contract extensions confirmed

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:48 pm
by unseenwork
DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:
unseenwork wrote:
Porterbelly1 wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Lyttle if he stays fit will be our fullback, that may seem like a big if but sometimes it just takes a while for these young lads to settle out. Nelson will get his share of time as well.
Nelson is shite
Not at 15 he's not, away and shite.
He's not good though
Ach he's decent at 15, Ludik level but pacier. Youse are all letting the fact that he's a mediocre to poor 10 colour your views.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:50 pm
by unseenwork
Yer Man wrote:Squad for the RWC?

Not so much a question of how many names can be inked in, but what bolters could come into contention?
The talk about resting certain senior players in order to blood some newcomers misses the point that there are hardly any newbies we haven't already looked at.

Hooker - desperately need Scannell to get fit, and maybe someone else to step up - but who is there?
Props - frankly, they're sorted
Locks - Beirne will get a look over the summer and I'd like to see Dillane back in action
Backrow - Ruddock, vd Flier & SOB are injured - are there any realistic bolters?

Scrum half - basically sorted, only change might be Cooney into the squad with an eye on "emergency 10 cover"
Out half - prayer, lots of, for Johnny's health & gametime for Ross Byrne
Centre - sorted
Wing - vacancy here due to injury to Earls (and Conway), so Sweatnam vs A Byrne? A Westie?
Full back - assuming Larmour is viewed as a 15, then sorted


So, basically it boils down to Dillane, Cooney, Sweatnam and every player in Ireland whose name sounds like Byrne

feck sake: forgot Carbery @ 10 :blush: :blush:
Okay, priority to get significant gametime for him - although he stepped in beautifully on Saturday. :thumbup:
Shuffle down Herring for Ulster and give McBurney the Ryan and Porter treatment.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:56 pm
by Kanbei
Nucifora has confirmed it
"Iain is developing into a world class lock and has taken on the responsibility of calling the line-out in some crunch games for Ireland in recent seasons."

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:57 pm
by Mullet 2
Kanbei wrote:Nucifora has confirmed it
"Iain is developing into a world class lock and has taken on the responsibility of calling the line-out in some crunch games for Ireland in recent seasons."

Laughable

Everybody knows he's hasn't a rashers at lineout time.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:59 pm
by unseenwork
Mullet 2 wrote:
Kanbei wrote:Nucifora has confirmed it
"Iain is developing into a world class lock and has taken on the responsibility of calling the line-out in some crunch games for Ireland in recent seasons."

Laughable

Everybody knows he's hasn't a rashers at lineout time.
Bold faced liar that Nucifora.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:01 pm
by Ulsters Red Hand
Nelson as good as Ludik :lol: :lol:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:06 pm
by Despot
CM11 wrote:I don't think there's likely to be any bolters for the backrow but if I had to pick one, it'd be Deegan.
I’d put Conor Oliver in the possible bolter category

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:08 pm
by Trostan
Banana Man wrote:Best signing on as expected

Some good .....
Breaking News: @RoryBest2 signs IRFU contract extension to the end of the Rugby World Cup 2019 in Japan.

He has captained Ireland to a 1st win over the Springboks in South Africa, a 1st win against New Zealand and to the Grand Slam on Saturday.
A World Cup and he'll be in with the "Liginds".

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:09 pm
by unseenwork
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:Nelson as good as Ludik :lol: :lol:
Ludik's had a sharp decline into mediocrity.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:10 pm
by Porterbelly1
Kyle Godwin confirmed to Connacht

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:10 pm
by Flametop
What happened to the bored?

I thought it had imploded after the news broke that Simon & Rob have been awarded central contract extensions until after the 2019 RWC.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:12 pm
by Trostan
earl the beaver wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:Gilroy could be an option for the summer tour, he's been one of the best wingers in Ireland recently
Eh.... he's played 4 games this calendar year? And one of them was like for 6 minutes?? Hasn't played in over a month.

Or do you mean like in recent times (past few years)??
He's been injured a lot but he's been very good when he has played, just like last year.

I think if Earls is out and he is fit then he has every chance of touring in the summer.
I haven't seen a whole pile of him but did see Munster and La Rochelle games - but that being said 3 full games in 2018 - vrs Munster B, then La Rochelle, Southern Kings (where he got a hat trick to be fair) - isn't one of the best "winger stuff"

I just think he has too many chinks in his game for Schmidt, doesn't make him a bad player and no more than I would back my own, you do yours. But would be surprised to see him tour. That ship has sailed I think
I don't think it has and honestly I think any talk of chinks in his game is completely overblown, he's a very well rounded winger who knows how to score tries.
He's like an old fashioned striker in wendyball.
Gets in the right place, has the right attitude and plays heads up. And he's quick.

Could be an extra string in Ireland's bow.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:14 pm
by feckwanker
Lads, the Gilroy ship had sailed under Schmidt. Lots of other exciting young wingers out there to give a go to instead.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:17 pm
by Yer Man
unseenwork wrote:Shuffle down Herring for Ulster and give McBurney the Ryan and Porter treatment.
Should have been ahead of John Andrew in the Autumn so now we'd have an idea if he could challenge Herring.
We've done feck-all with him this season (as well as last)

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:17 pm
by earl the beaver
Yer Man wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Shuffle down Herring for Ulster and give McBurney the Ryan and Porter treatment.
Should have been ahead of John Andrew in the Autumn so now we'd have an idea if he could challenge Herring.
We've done feck-all with him this season (as well as last)
Injured a lot of last season no?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:18 pm
by Liathroidigloine
James Ryan has the sum total of 371 minutes for Leinster this season. He has started 5 games and subbed for 5 and has only played 80 minutes once, against the Southern Kings.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:19 pm
by irishrugbyua
Hendo signed 3 year central deal.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:20 pm
by irishrugbyua
Liathroidigloine wrote:James Ryan has the sum total of 371 minutes for Leinster this season. He has started 5 games and subbed for 5 and has only played 80 minutes once, against the Southern Kings.
hopefully adds to that significantly between now and the end of the season

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:21 pm
by Liathroidigloine
unseenwork wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
Kanbei wrote:Nucifora has confirmed it
"Iain is developing into a world class lock and has taken on the responsibility of calling the line-out in some crunch games for Ireland in recent seasons."

Laughable

Everybody knows he's hasn't a rashers at lineout time.
Bold faced liar that Nucifora.
He hates Ulster.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:22 pm
by Yer Man
earl the beaver wrote:
Yer Man wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Shuffle down Herring for Ulster and give McBurney the Ryan and Porter treatment.
Should have been ahead of John Andrew in the Autumn so now we'd have an idea if he could challenge Herring.
We've done feck-all with him this season (as well as last)
Injured a lot of last season no?
Possibly, he played Ravens & AIL in Autumn 2016.

Came off the bench 3 times this season - all when Andrew was starting.
The one time he got to bench behind Herring (Munster @ home) - he sat there for 80 mins.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:22 pm
by Diego
Liathroidigloine wrote:James Ryan has the sum total of 371 minutes for Leinster this season. He has started 5 games and subbed for 5 and has only played 80 minutes once, against the Southern Kings.
He seems to contradict so many things we "know" about Irish rugby:

We don't produce tall players
The ones we do are gangly, unathletic types (Dev, Darren O'Shea)
We don't promote young players until they've served their time provincially

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:23 pm
by feckwanker
irishrugbyua wrote:Hendo signed 3 year central deal.
:thumbup:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:32 pm
by Liathroidigloine
It's going to be a real tough job for Leo, Lancaster and Co to reintroduce the Irish guys back in. The pack should be ok as they have all been playing together bar Strauss/Tracey and Fardy.

The backs are a completely different kettle of fish. Sexton, Kearney and Ringrose should be grand but Isa has hardly played since Christmas and then there's McGraths injury. I'd imagine that we will see two different squads training separately, the one for Ospreys and then the one for Saracens.

Ospreys
Dooley Strauss Bent
Molony Kearney
Josh M Deegan Ruddock(?)
McCarthy Frawley
Byrne Reid ROL Daly
D Kearney

Byrne Byrne Abdalaze Nagle Connors Rock ?? ??

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:44 pm
by lorcanoworms
Flametop wrote:What happened to the bored?

I thought it had imploded after the news broke that Simon & Rob have been awarded central contract extensions until after the 2019 RWC.
Simon? Easterbunny?Dave? Leo?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:02 pm
by Apposite
irishrugbyua wrote:Hendo signed 3 year central deal.
Great news :thumbup: