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McCarthy is getting a bit of unfair stick imo. He's not the worst. Not ready for this level at the moment but he's got a serious pass and if he can sort his kicking he'll be an option for Leinster

That kick on the full was f**king brutal though

We're twice as f**ked if Murray gets injured. James Hart looks like a lad that's fell out the back of the pub and onto the Munster team bus.

Even the try he scored the week before last . Five yards out in between two defenders and he still nearly got held up

fishooks15 wrote:McCarthy is getting a bit of unfair stick imo. He's not the worst. Not ready for this level at the moment but he's got a serious pass and if he can sort his kicking he'll be an option for Leinster

That kick on the full was f**king brutal though

We're twice as f**ked if Murray gets injured. James Hart looks like a lad that's fell out the back of the pub and onto the Munster team bus.

Even the try he scored the week before last . Five yards out in between two defenders and he still nearly got held up

Yeah I'd go along with this btw

He doesn’t look like he’ll ever have the conditioning or physicality for professional rugby

Bit crazy that cooney is up north whilst Leinster have a kiwi

Duff Paddy wrote:Bit crazy that cooney is up north whilst Leinster have a kiwi

Letting him go West was an awful error tbh. He's been the one shining light on that turd of a season Ulster are having

I'd rate him ahead of Marmion too

Duff Paddy wrote:Bit crazy that cooney is up north whilst Leinster have a kiwi

At least he’s first choice at an Irish province

fishooks15 wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:Bit crazy that cooney is up north whilst Leinster have a kiwi

Letting him go West was an awful error tbh. He's been the one shining light on that turd of a season Ulster are having

I'd rate him ahead of Marmion too

Nah it was the correct decision at the time. He was well down the order and needed to move to get regular gametime

Conspicuous wrote:

fishooks15 wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:Bit crazy that cooney is up north whilst Leinster have a kiwi

Letting him go West was an awful error tbh. He's been the one shining light on that turd of a season Ulster are having

I'd rate him ahead of Marmion too

Nah it was the correct decision at the time. He was well down the order and needed to move to get regular gametime

It was def a great move for him personally anyway

Conspicuous wrote:He doesn’t look like he’ll ever have the conditioning or physicality for professional rugby

Ah he'll be grand if he sorts out his kicking and chills the beans a bit. He'll never be able to play like Murray but he could easily be a decent pro in the Aaron Smith mould.

fishooks15 wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:Bit crazy that cooney is up north whilst Leinster have a kiwi

Letting him go West was an awful error tbh. He's been the one shining light on that turd of a season Ulster are having

I'd rate him ahead of Marmion too

He wasn't great for Leinster when he got gametime. I wouldn't blame them for letting him go.

Diego wrote:

fishooks15 wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:Bit crazy that cooney is up north whilst Leinster have a kiwi

Letting him go West was an awful error tbh. He's been the one shining light on that turd of a season Ulster are having

I'd rate him ahead of Marmion too

He wasn't great for Leinster when he got gametime. I wouldn't blame them for letting him go.

Cooney has a Heino Cup winners medal after playing about 5 minutes in the final against Ulster IIRC

McCarthy will hopefully get one too ...... after having played a much bigger role this year

McCarthy has huge potential as his u-20 performances showed ...... he captained Carberry and Ringrose during that stint, lest people forget

anonymous_joe wrote:They'll find somebody else vain enough to take it on.

I reckon the SRU could step in there. The debt is reqally just directors loans.

EverReady wrote:I thought he was all over the shop. Hate having a go at such a young fella but thank fudge Joey was all composure

He was. The panicked kick out on the full from the turnover was terrible.

fishooks15 wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:Bit crazy that cooney is up north whilst Leinster have a kiwi

Letting him go West was an awful error tbh. He's been the one shining light on that turd of a season Ulster are having

I'd rate him ahead of Marmion too

Obviously Stockdale doesn't exist.

Any guesses as to whether the Leinster SF will be on Sat or Sun?

IRELAND UNDER-18 SCHOOLS Team & Replacements (v Wales Under-18s, Under-18 Six Nations Festival, Cardiff Arms Park, Cardiff, Wednesday, April 4, kick-off 2.30pm):

15. Chris Cosgrave (St. Michael's College)
14. Andrew Smith (St. Michael's College)
13. Ben Power (Campbell College)
12. Angus Adair (RBAI)
11. Aaron Sexton (Bangor GS)
10. Dylan Prendergast (Sancta Maria College)
9. Ben Murphy (Presentation College Bray)
1. Connor Morrissey (Mayfield CS)
2. Padraig McCarthy (Colaiste Pobail Bheanntrai)
3. Charlie Ward (Tullow Community School)
4. Conor McMenamin (Colaiste Ailigh)
5. Cian Prendergast (Newbridge College)
6. Sean O'Brien (Blackrock College)
7. Anthony Ryan (Clongowes Wood College)
8. David McCann (RBAI) (capt)

Replacements:

16. Tom Stewart (Belfast Royal Academy)
17. John McKee (Campbell College)
18. Tom Clarkson (Blackrock College)
19. Cian Hurley (CBC Cork)
20. Tom Ahern (St. Augustine's, Dungarvan)
21. Alex Kendellen (PBC Cork)
22. Ryan O'Neill (RS Armagh)
23. Nathan Doak (Wallace HS)
24. Paddy McKenzie (East Glendalough School)
25. Karl Martin (St. Mary's School, Drogheda)
26. Max O'Reilly (St. Gerard's School)

Ben Murphy is Richie Murphy’s son I think

3 Ulster centres in the backline there.

Conspicuous wrote:

fishooks15 wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:Bit crazy that cooney is up north whilst Leinster have a kiwi

Letting him go West was an awful error tbh. He's been the one shining light on that turd of a season Ulster are having

I'd rate him ahead of Marmion too

Nah it was the correct decision at the time. He was well down the order and needed to move to get regular gametime

Only went to Connacht on loan initially so we've only ourselves to blame if it's a poor decision in retrospect. Still, you're never going to be able to hold onto everyone. Nor should you

paddyor wrote:

EverReady wrote:I thought he was all over the shop. Hate having a go at such a young fella but thank fudge Joey was all composure

He was. The panicked kick out on the full from the turnover was terrible.

He looked spooked by the occasion. I'd be inclined to start him with the big guns in a Pro 14 game now, to bed him in

Leinster confirmed for Saturday the 21st of April at 3.30 on SKY. Munster are on the Sunday at 16.15 French time on BT.

Tecumseh wrote:

paddyor wrote:

EverReady wrote:I thought he was all over the shop. Hate having a go at such a young fella but thank fudge Joey was all composure

He was. The panicked kick out on the full from the turnover was terrible.

He looked spooked by the occasion. I'd be inclined to start him with the big guns in a Pro 14 game now, to bed him in

Yeah not a bad shout. He really just hasn't played enough. We can't expect all the young guns to simply arrive to the manor born a la Ryan. He's got a good pass and is certainly worth persisting with. Although what really are the chances of him playing with Sexton against Italian opposition.

cfm93 wrote:Leinster confirmed for Saturday the 21st of April at 3.30 on SKY. Munster are on the Sunday at 16.15 French time on BT.

Cheers!

Bt, feck sake, I’ll have to go to the pub again.

Shit time for Munster.

Willie Falloon wrote: Obviously Stockdale doesn't exist.

Hasn't had the same opportunity to shine in the white shirt as he has in the green.
Would definitely agree with Cooney being the story of the season at Ravenhill.

nardol wrote:Shit time for Munster.

Bloody disaster. Too late for me to get back on the Sunday and the Monday and Tuesday are national strike days in France. There is no trains to Spain today so will probably be the same

unseenwork wrote:IRELAND UNDER-18 SCHOOLS Team & Replacements (v Wales Under-18s, Under-18 Six Nations Festival, Cardiff Arms Park, Cardiff, Wednesday, April 4, kick-off 2.30pm):

15. Chris Cosgrave (St. Michael's College)
14. Andrew Smith (St. Michael's College)
13. Ben Power (Campbell College)
12. Angus Adair (RBAI)
11. Aaron Sexton (Bangor GS)
10. Dylan Prendergast (Sancta Maria College)
9. Ben Murphy (Presentation College Bray)
1. Connor Morrissey (Mayfield CS)
2. Padraig McCarthy (Colaiste Pobail Bheanntrai)
3. Charlie Ward (Tullow Community School)
4. Conor McMenamin (Colaiste Ailigh)
5. Cian Prendergast (Newbridge College)
6. Sean O'Brien (Blackrock College)
7. Anthony Ryan (Clongowes Wood College)
8. David McCann (RBAI) (capt)

Replacements:

16. Tom Stewart (Belfast Royal Academy)
17. John McKee (Campbell College)
18. Tom Clarkson (Blackrock College)
19. Cian Hurley (CBC Cork)
20. Tom Ahern (St. Augustine's, Dungarvan)
21. Alex Kendellen (PBC Cork)
22. Ryan O'Neill (RS Armagh)
23. Nathan Doak (Wallace HS)
24. Paddy McKenzie (East Glendalough School)
25. Karl Martin (St. Mary's School, Drogheda)
26. Max O'Reilly (St. Gerard's School)

Wow, check out the schools lads ...... had to Google a few of them

Letterkenny
Louisburgh, Mayo
Dungarvan
Wicklow town
Mayfield (Roy keane territory)

Great to see this kind of spread of representation ..... really bodes well

oh and watch out for Cosgrave and Smith at the back ..... 4th year and 5th year respectively

sewa wrote:

nardol wrote:Shit time for Munster.

Bloody disaster. Too late for me to get back on the Sunday and the Monday and Tuesday are national strike days in France. There is no trains to Spain today so will probably be the same

Had a hotel booked in Bordeaux once the Racing win was in the bag (50 quid) but flights to Edinburgh are impossible to get out on the Sunday and very difficult on the Monday. The connectivity of Bordeaux is piss poor, very annoying.

unseenwork wrote:IRELAND UNDER-18 SCHOOLS Team & Replacements (v Wales Under-18s, Under-18 Six Nations Festival, Cardiff Arms Park, Cardiff, Wednesday, April 4, kick-off 2.30pm):

15. Chris Cosgrave (St. Michael's College)
14. Andrew Smith (St. Michael's College)
13. Ben Power (Campbell College)
12. Angus Adair (RBAI)
11. Aaron Sexton (Bangor GS)
10. Dylan Prendergast (Sancta Maria College)
9. Ben Murphy (Presentation College Bray)
1. Connor Morrissey (Mayfield CS)
2. Padraig McCarthy (Colaiste Pobail Bheanntrai)
3. Charlie Ward (Tullow Community School)
4. Conor McMenamin (Colaiste Ailigh)
5. Cian Prendergast (Newbridge College)
6. Sean O'Brien (Blackrock College)
7. Anthony Ryan (Clongowes Wood College)
8. David McCann (RBAI) (capt)

Replacements:

16. Tom Stewart (Belfast Royal Academy)
17. John McKee (Campbell College)
18. Tom Clarkson (Blackrock College)
19. Cian Hurley (CBC Cork)
20. Tom Ahern (St. Augustine's, Dungarvan)
21. Alex Kendellen (PBC Cork)
22. Ryan O'Neill (RS Armagh)
23. Nathan Doak (Wallace HS)
24. Paddy McKenzie (East Glendalough School)
25. Karl Martin (St. Mary's School, Drogheda)
26. Max O'Reilly (St. Gerard's School)

5 Ulster boys starting (including captain)and another 4 on the bench. Good to see.

Also the u19 captain tonight as well. Ulster have some pile of centres starting at underage level this season.

Curtis/Hume with the 20s, Moore with the 19s and Adair/power tomorrow. Lowry and
Houston at 10 as well.

unseenwork wrote:IRELAND UNDER-18 SCHOOLS Team & Replacements (v Wales Under-18s, Under-18 Six Nations Festival, Cardiff Arms Park, Cardiff, Wednesday, April 4, kick-off 2.30pm):

15. Chris Cosgrave (St. Michael's College)
14. Andrew Smith (St. Michael's College)
13. Ben Power (Campbell College)
12. Angus Adair (RBAI)
11. Aaron Sexton (Bangor GS)
10. Dylan Prendergast (Sancta Maria College)
9. Ben Murphy (Presentation College Bray)
1. Connor Morrissey (Mayfield CS)
2. Padraig McCarthy (Colaiste Pobail Bheanntrai)
3. Charlie Ward (Tullow Community School)
4. Conor McMenamin (Colaiste Ailigh)
5. Cian Prendergast (Newbridge College)
6. Sean O'Brien (Blackrock College)
7. Anthony Ryan (Clongowes Wood College)
8. David McCann (RBAI) (capt)

Replacements:

16. Tom Stewart (Belfast Royal Academy)
17. John McKee (Campbell College)
18. Tom Clarkson (Blackrock College)
19. Cian Hurley (CBC Cork)
20. Tom Ahern (St. Augustine's, Dungarvan)
21. Alex Kendellen (PBC Cork)
22. Ryan O'Neill (RS Armagh)
23. Nathan Doak (Wallace HS)
24. Paddy McKenzie (East Glendalough School)
25. Karl Martin (St. Mary's School, Drogheda)
26. Max O'Reilly (St. Gerard's School)

I hear the 8 and the 12 are the two to look out for.

earl the beaver wrote:

unseenwork wrote:IRELAND UNDER-18 SCHOOLS Team & Replacements (v Wales Under-18s, Under-18 Six Nations Festival, Cardiff Arms Park, Cardiff, Wednesday, April 4, kick-off 2.30pm):

15. Chris Cosgrave (St. Michael's College)
14. Andrew Smith (St. Michael's College)
13. Ben Power (Campbell College)
12. Angus Adair (RBAI)
11. Aaron Sexton (Bangor GS)
10. Dylan Prendergast (Sancta Maria College)
9. Ben Murphy (Presentation College Bray)
1. Connor Morrissey (Mayfield CS)
2. Padraig McCarthy (Colaiste Pobail Bheanntrai)
3. Charlie Ward (Tullow Community School)
4. Conor McMenamin (Colaiste Ailigh)
5. Cian Prendergast (Newbridge College)
6. Sean O'Brien (Blackrock College)
7. Anthony Ryan (Clongowes Wood College)
8. David McCann (RBAI) (capt)

Replacements:

16. Tom Stewart (Belfast Royal Academy)
17. John McKee (Campbell College)
18. Tom Clarkson (Blackrock College)
19. Cian Hurley (CBC Cork)
20. Tom Ahern (St. Augustine's, Dungarvan)
21. Alex Kendellen (PBC Cork)
22. Ryan O'Neill (RS Armagh)
23. Nathan Doak (Wallace HS)
24. Paddy McKenzie (East Glendalough School)
25. Karl Martin (St. Mary's School, Drogheda)
26. Max O'Reilly (St. Gerard's School)

I hear the 8 and the 12 are the two to look out for.

Oh I bet. McCann is quality from what little I've seen of him.

Willie Falloon wrote:

unseenwork wrote:IRELAND UNDER-18 SCHOOLS Team & Replacements (v Wales Under-18s, Under-18 Six Nations Festival, Cardiff Arms Park, Cardiff, Wednesday, April 4, kick-off 2.30pm):

15. Chris Cosgrave (St. Michael's College)
14. Andrew Smith (St. Michael's College)
13. Ben Power (Campbell College)
12. Angus Adair (RBAI)
11. Aaron Sexton (Bangor GS)
10. Dylan Prendergast (Sancta Maria College)
9. Ben Murphy (Presentation College Bray)
1. Connor Morrissey (Mayfield CS)
2. Padraig McCarthy (Colaiste Pobail Bheanntrai)
3. Charlie Ward (Tullow Community School)
4. Conor McMenamin (Colaiste Ailigh)
5. Cian Prendergast (Newbridge College)
6. Sean O'Brien (Blackrock College)
7. Anthony Ryan (Clongowes Wood College)
8. David McCann (RBAI) (capt)

Replacements:

16. Tom Stewart (Belfast Royal Academy)
17. John McKee (Campbell College)
18. Tom Clarkson (Blackrock College)
19. Cian Hurley (CBC Cork)
20. Tom Ahern (St. Augustine's, Dungarvan)
21. Alex Kendellen (PBC Cork)
22. Ryan O'Neill (RS Armagh)
23. Nathan Doak (Wallace HS)
24. Paddy McKenzie (East Glendalough School)
25. Karl Martin (St. Mary's School, Drogheda)
26. Max O'Reilly (St. Gerard's School)

5 Ulster boys starting (including captain)and another 4 on the bench. Good to see.

Also the u19 captain tonight as well. Ulster have some pile of centres starting at underage level this season.

Curtis/Hume with the 20s, Moore with the 19s and Adair/power tomorrow. Lowry and
Houston at 10 as well.

Don't forget Sexton's a centre, though I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in the back 3 long term.

unseenwork wrote:IRELAND UNDER-18 SCHOOLS Team & Replacements (v Wales Under-18s, Under-18 Six Nations Festival, Cardiff Arms Park, Cardiff, Wednesday, April 4, kick-off 2.30pm):

15. Chris Cosgrave (St. Michael's College)
14. Andrew Smith (St. Michael's College)
13. Ben Power (Campbell College)
12. Angus Adair (RBAI)
11. Aaron Sexton (Bangor GS)
10. Dylan Prendergast (Sancta Maria College)
9. Ben Murphy (Presentation College Bray)
1. Connor Morrissey (Mayfield CS)
2. Padraig McCarthy (Colaiste Pobail Bheanntrai)
3. Charlie Ward (Tullow Community School)
4. Conor McMenamin (Colaiste Ailigh)
5. Cian Prendergast (Newbridge College)
6. Sean O'Brien (Blackrock College)
7. Anthony Ryan (Clongowes Wood College)
8. David McCann (RBAI) (capt)

Replacements:

16. Tom Stewart (Belfast Royal Academy)
17. John McKee (Campbell College)
18. Tom Clarkson (Blackrock College)
19. Cian Hurley (CBC Cork)
20. Tom Ahern (St. Augustine's, Dungarvan)
21. Alex Kendellen (PBC Cork)
22. Ryan O'Neill (RS Armagh)
23. Nathan Doak (Wallace HS)
24. Paddy McKenzie (East Glendalough School)
25. Karl Martin (St. Mary's School, Drogheda)
26. Max O'Reilly (St. Gerard's School)

SOB 4.0.. We all dream of a team of Sean O'Briens

Harsh on Doak to be dropped after getting the winning kick last game?

Was McKee not captain of the Ireland u18's that game too?

paddyor wrote:

EverReady wrote:I thought he was all over the shop. Hate having a go at such a young fella but thank fudge Joey was all composure

He was. The panicked kick out on the full from the turnover was terrible.

It was the right decision. Their FB was stuck in the ruck and there were acres of space behind. Just executed badly. As I said, it will stand him in good stead.

camroc1 wrote:

paddyor wrote:

EverReady wrote:I thought he was all over the shop. Hate having a go at such a young fella but thank fudge Joey was all composure

He was. The panicked kick out on the full from the turnover was terrible.

It was the right decision. Their FB was stuck in the ruck and there were acres of space behind. Just executed badly. As I said, it will stand him in good stead.

It was absolutely the correct decision. It wasn't panicked as such. More rushed as he saw the space and wanted to get the ball there before the space was filled. Awful execution.

I thought his passing was fine but he needs the kicking game too.

Will the Leinster tickets just go on general sale
I'm considering coming down and giving you my support

CM11 wrote:

camroc1 wrote:

paddyor wrote:

EverReady wrote:I thought he was all over the shop. Hate having a go at such a young fella but thank fudge Joey was all composure

He was. The panicked kick out on the full from the turnover was terrible.

It was the right decision. Their FB was stuck in the ruck and there were acres of space behind. Just executed badly. As I said, it will stand him in good stead.

It was absolutely the correct decision. It wasn't panicked as such. More rushed as he saw the space and wanted to get the ball there before the space was filled. Awful execution.

I thought his passing was fine but he needs the kicking game too.

I was wondering whether that was a plan he was sent onto the field with, give them the ball and let them start from their half ie keeping the ball out of our half as much as possible.

Winnie wrote:Will the Leinster tickets just go on general sale
I'm considering coming down and giving you my support

ST holders generally get first dibs, and then they go on general release. There will probably be Scarlets returns as well on offer closer to the match.