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unseenwork wrote:No chance Herbst could get suspended while we're at it for shooting all them animals?

Roger Wilson was allowed to continue on after being done for drink driving wasn't he?
Isn't there also some sort of link between Bryn and that player management agency that does the recruitment for Ulster, as well as managing most of the players?
The whole place stinks.

Jim Lahey wrote:

unseenwork wrote:No chance Herbst could get suspended while we're at it for shooting all them animals?

Roger Wilson was allowed to continue on after being done for drink driving wasn't he?
Isn't there also some sort of link between Bryn and that player management agency that does the recruitment for Ulster, as well as managing most of the players?
The whole place stinks.

Hmm. I think Roger got a suspension, though I'd need to double check that. Yep Bryn used to work for Corner Flag Management which came to be known as Esportif, I think Jan still works for them?

paddyor wrote:Good read here.

http://www.aocsolicitors.ie/irfu-ulster ... c-opinion/

Obviously, that an the fact that evidence suggests that in oldings/jack sons case they are innocent of the charges brought against them, no matter what mob rule in the republic would have you beleive.


the IRFU aren't stupid, they know they have to be careful, if anything those guys being force out by the Dublin media and protests will not sit very well with many supporters within the province, if real Ulster rugby men make these decisions then it will be easier to accept, but if southerners are seen be the cause of it, there will be a huge fall out.

You guys may laugh at te aboveboard statement , but welcome to NI and our politics.

Jesus Willie.....

Willie Falloon wrote:

paddyor wrote:Good read here.

http://www.aocsolicitors.ie/irfu-ulster ... c-opinion/

Obviously, that an the fact that evidence suggests that in oldings/jack sons case they are innocent of the charges brought against them, no matter what mob rule in the republic would have you beleive.


the IRFU aren't stupid, they know they have to be careful, if anything those guys being force out by the Dublin media and protests will not sit very well with many supporters within the province, if real Ulster rugby men make these decisions then it will be easier to accept, but if southerners are seen be the cause of it, there will be a huge fall out.

You guys may laugh at te aboveboard statement , but welcome to NI and our politics.

I swear there are ministers in our government that don't think about Ireland as much as Willie does.

earl the beaver wrote:Being serious though is Gilroy's name not meant to be completely anonymous following the trial?

It came out during Earl. Well as good as

Diego wrote:I swear there are ministers in our government that don't think about Ireland as much as Willie does.

There were certainly those who took Pienaar's departure as something in which the border was an issue... But then I do live in Belfast, East.

How many seasons will Leavy last?



http://www.the42.ie/dan-leavy-leinster- ... 3-Apr2018/

Flametop wrote:How many seasons will Leavy last?

Reminds me of Paddy Wallace in his day, if he didn't have a fresh headwound he hadn't played that week.

Jim Lahey wrote:

unseenwork wrote:No chance Herbst could get suspended while we're at it for shooting all them animals?

Roger Wilson was allowed to continue on after being done for drink driving wasn't he?
Isn't there also some sort of link between Bryn and that player management agency that does the recruitment for Ulster, as well as managing most of the players?
The whole place stinks.

Brett Herron was also done for Drink Driving. Should have cancelled his contract after that. Would have saved a fortune rather than be paid for playing for Ballymena this season.

Van Rooj wrote:

Flametop wrote:How many seasons will Leavy last?

Reminds me of Paddy Wallace in his day, if he didn't have a fresh headwound he hadn't played that week.

Except Leavy is actually quite good at rugby

camroc1 wrote:

danny_fitz wrote:Flights to Bordeaux have gone fecking mental!

SNCF is your friend. Direct trains from Lyons to bourdeaux, and toulon to Bourdeaux. Just choose your airport, spend the night in that town, early train the next day to Bourdeaux.

You have clearly missed the hard part. How do you get back for work with a strike starting Sunday night?

Flametop wrote:How many seasons will Leavy last?



http://www.the42.ie/dan-leavy-leinster- ... 3-Apr2018/

Mullingar blood.

IRELAND UNDER-18 CLUBS & SCHOOLS Team & Replacements (v England Under-18 Counties, Underage International Match, HMS Temeraire, Portsmouth, Wednesday, April 4, kick-off 2pm):

15. Oran McNulty (Bath Academy/Millfield/IQ Rugby)
14. Tom Bacon (Henley College/Wasps/IQ Rugby)
13. Hayden Hyde (Harlequins Academy/Cranleigh School/IQ Rugby)
12. Saul O'Carroll (Buccaneers/Garbally College)
11. Shane Jennings (Ballinasloe/Garbally College)
10. Michael Cooke (Sedbergh School/IQ Rugby)
9. Charlie O'Doherty (Newcastle West/Ard Scoil na Mhuire)
1. Mark Donnelly (CBC Cork)
2. Aaron Hennessy (The Alfa Project, Scariff/Ennis)
3. Liam Winnett (Buccaneers/Marist College)
4. Eoin O'Connor (Waterpark/Gaelcholaiste Phortlairge)
5. Darragh Murray (Buccaneers/Coláiste Chíaráin)
6. Ed Brennan (Blackrock College)
7. Evan Murphy (Nenagh Ormond/Nenagh CBS) (capt)
8. Joshua Dunne (Nottingham Academy/Denstone College/IQ Rugby)

Replacements:

16. Mark Nicholson (Wicklow/Colaiste Chill Mhantain)
17. Fionn Flanagan (Bruff)
18. Paddy McAlpine (Campbell College)
19. Paddy Kelly (St. Munchin's College)
20. Chris Moore (Beechen Cliff School/IQ Rugby)
21. Shane Murphy (Skerries/St. Joseph's Rush)
22. Thomas Armstrong (Methodist College Belfast)
23. Tommy Downes (CBC Cork)

Van Rooj wrote:

Diego wrote:I swear there are ministers in our government that don't think about Ireland as much as Willie does.

There were certainly those who took Pienaar's departure as something in which the border was an issue... But then I do live in Belfast, East.

It's a nonsense though; Leinster weren't allowed keep Hines, Munster were blocked from signing Stephen Moore or signing an NIQ replacement for Botha. It's swings and roundabouts.

iarmhiman wrote:

Flametop wrote:How many seasons will Leavy last?



http://www.the42.ie/dan-leavy-leinster- ... 3-Apr2018/

Mullingar blood.

Explains why he looks like a tinker.

Hellraiser wrote:

iarmhiman wrote:

Flametop wrote:How many seasons will Leavy last?



http://www.the42.ie/dan-leavy-leinster- ... 3-Apr2018/

Mullingar blood.

Explains why he looks like a tinker.

As long as he is a winner.

How are you getting on? Do you think you'll ever cheer for your own province? Cavan I believe is not in Munster.

irishrugbyua wrote:IRELAND UNDER-18 CLUBS & SCHOOLS Team & Replacements (v England Under-18 Counties, Underage International Match, HMS Temeraire, Portsmouth, Wednesday, April 4, kick-off 2pm):

15. Oran McNulty (Bath Academy/Millfield/IQ Rugby)
14. Tom Bacon (Henley College/Wasps/IQ Rugby)
13. Hayden Hyde (Harlequins Academy/Cranleigh School/IQ Rugby)
12. Saul O'Carroll (Buccaneers/Garbally College)
11. Shane Jennings (Ballinasloe/Garbally College)
10. Michael Cooke (Sedbergh School/IQ Rugby)
9. Charlie O'Doherty (Newcastle West/Ard Scoil na Mhuire)
1. Mark Donnelly (CBC Cork)
2. Aaron Hennessy (The Alfa Project, Scariff/Ennis)
3. Liam Winnett (Buccaneers/Marist College)
4. Eoin O'Connor (Waterpark/Gaelcholaiste Phortlairge)
5. Darragh Murray (Buccaneers/Coláiste Chíaráin)
6. Ed Brennan (Blackrock College)
7. Evan Murphy (Nenagh Ormond/Nenagh CBS) (capt)
8. Joshua Dunne (Nottingham Academy/Denstone College/IQ Rugby)

Replacements:

16. Mark Nicholson (Wicklow/Colaiste Chill Mhantain)
17. Fionn Flanagan (Bruff)
18. Paddy McAlpine (Campbell College)
19. Paddy Kelly (St. Munchin's College)
20. Chris Moore (Beechen Cliff School/IQ Rugby)
21. Shane Murphy (Skerries/St. Joseph's Rush)
22. Thomas Armstrong (Methodist College Belfast)
23. Tommy Downes (CBC Cork)

Number of English players in that squad is a bit odd.... Even if IQed.

Solr is correct above (obviously) - but the IRFU have solrs too, and they've had some time to deliberate. I suspect the exit strategy has been much-discussed.

surprised to see this from a solicitor though....

Unlike in an office environment, neither Jackson nor Olding are required to interact with women as part of their duties of employment.

Not sure this is either factually correct, or material. UR/IRFU have female employees.

Hellraiser wrote: It's a nonsense though; Leinster weren't allowed keep Hines, Munster were blocked from signing Stephen Moore or signing an NIQ replacement for Botha. It's swings and roundabouts.

Don't disagree, I was just pointing out that yer man Falloon has a point when he says there are eejits that'll put a political slant on it all.
There are eejits that are putting a political slant on it all.

nardol wrote:

irishrugbyua wrote:IRELAND UNDER-18 CLUBS & SCHOOLS Team & Replacements (v England Under-18 Counties, Underage International Match, HMS Temeraire, Portsmouth, Wednesday, April 4, kick-off 2pm):

15. Oran McNulty (Bath Academy/Millfield/IQ Rugby)
14. Tom Bacon (Henley College/Wasps/IQ Rugby)
13. Hayden Hyde (Harlequins Academy/Cranleigh School/IQ Rugby)
12. Saul O'Carroll (Buccaneers/Garbally College)
11. Shane Jennings (Ballinasloe/Garbally College)
10. Michael Cooke (Sedbergh School/IQ Rugby)
9. Charlie O'Doherty (Newcastle West/Ard Scoil na Mhuire)
1. Mark Donnelly (CBC Cork)
2. Aaron Hennessy (The Alfa Project, Scariff/Ennis)
3. Liam Winnett (Buccaneers/Marist College)
4. Eoin O'Connor (Waterpark/Gaelcholaiste Phortlairge)
5. Darragh Murray (Buccaneers/Coláiste Chíaráin)
6. Ed Brennan (Blackrock College)
7. Evan Murphy (Nenagh Ormond/Nenagh CBS) (capt)
8. Joshua Dunne (Nottingham Academy/Denstone College/IQ Rugby)

Replacements:

16. Mark Nicholson (Wicklow/Colaiste Chill Mhantain)
17. Fionn Flanagan (Bruff)
18. Paddy McAlpine (Campbell College)
19. Paddy Kelly (St. Munchin's College)
20. Chris Moore (Beechen Cliff School/IQ Rugby)
21. Shane Murphy (Skerries/St. Joseph's Rush)
22. Thomas Armstrong (Methodist College Belfast)
23. Tommy Downes (CBC Cork)

Number of English players in that squad is a bit odd.... Even if IQed.

Yeah it's a weird one.

nardol wrote:

irishrugbyua wrote:IRELAND UNDER-18 CLUBS & SCHOOLS Team & Replacements (v England Under-18 Counties, Underage International Match, HMS Temeraire, Portsmouth, Wednesday, April 4, kick-off 2pm):

15. Oran McNulty (Bath Academy/Millfield/IQ Rugby)
14. Tom Bacon (Henley College/Wasps/IQ Rugby)
13. Hayden Hyde (Harlequins Academy/Cranleigh School/IQ Rugby)
12. Saul O'Carroll (Buccaneers/Garbally College)
11. Shane Jennings (Ballinasloe/Garbally College)
10. Michael Cooke (Sedbergh School/IQ Rugby)
9. Charlie O'Doherty (Newcastle West/Ard Scoil na Mhuire)
1. Mark Donnelly (CBC Cork)
2. Aaron Hennessy (The Alfa Project, Scariff/Ennis)
3. Liam Winnett (Buccaneers/Marist College)
4. Eoin O'Connor (Waterpark/Gaelcholaiste Phortlairge)
5. Darragh Murray (Buccaneers/Coláiste Chíaráin)
6. Ed Brennan (Blackrock College)
7. Evan Murphy (Nenagh Ormond/Nenagh CBS) (capt)
8. Joshua Dunne (Nottingham Academy/Denstone College/IQ Rugby)

Replacements:

16. Mark Nicholson (Wicklow/Colaiste Chill Mhantain)
17. Fionn Flanagan (Bruff)
18. Paddy McAlpine (Campbell College)
19. Paddy Kelly (St. Munchin's College)
20. Chris Moore (Beechen Cliff School/IQ Rugby)
21. Shane Murphy (Skerries/St. Joseph's Rush)
22. Thomas Armstrong (Methodist College Belfast)
23. Tommy Downes (CBC Cork)

Number of English players in that squad is a bit odd.... Even if IQed.

I started reading it and thought it was the English team he posted . The IRFU must be actively targeting young players in England with Irish heritage

The funny thing is that I bet Willie reckons he's representative of a "new modern Northern Ireland".

Leinsterman wrote:The funny thing is that I bet Willie reckons he's representative of a "new modern Northern Ireland".

Where's that and how do you get to it from the Northern Ireland I'm in?

Conspicuous wrote:

nardol wrote:

irishrugbyua wrote:IRELAND UNDER-18 CLUBS & SCHOOLS Team & Replacements (v England Under-18 Counties, Underage International Match, HMS Temeraire, Portsmouth, Wednesday, April 4, kick-off 2pm):

15. Oran McNulty (Bath Academy/Millfield/IQ Rugby)
14. Tom Bacon (Henley College/Wasps/IQ Rugby)
13. Hayden Hyde (Harlequins Academy/Cranleigh School/IQ Rugby)
12. Saul O'Carroll (Buccaneers/Garbally College)
11. Shane Jennings (Ballinasloe/Garbally College)
10. Michael Cooke (Sedbergh School/IQ Rugby)
9. Charlie O'Doherty (Newcastle West/Ard Scoil na Mhuire)
1. Mark Donnelly (CBC Cork)
2. Aaron Hennessy (The Alfa Project, Scariff/Ennis)
3. Liam Winnett (Buccaneers/Marist College)
4. Eoin O'Connor (Waterpark/Gaelcholaiste Phortlairge)
5. Darragh Murray (Buccaneers/Coláiste Chíaráin)
6. Ed Brennan (Blackrock College)
7. Evan Murphy (Nenagh Ormond/Nenagh CBS) (capt)
8. Joshua Dunne (Nottingham Academy/Denstone College/IQ Rugby)

Replacements:

16. Mark Nicholson (Wicklow/Colaiste Chill Mhantain)
17. Fionn Flanagan (Bruff)
18. Paddy McAlpine (Campbell College)
19. Paddy Kelly (St. Munchin's College)
20. Chris Moore (Beechen Cliff School/IQ Rugby)
21. Shane Murphy (Skerries/St. Joseph's Rush)
22. Thomas Armstrong (Methodist College Belfast)
23. Tommy Downes (CBC Cork)

Number of English players in that squad is a bit odd.... Even if IQed.

I started reading it and thought it was the English team he posted . The IRFU must be actively targeting young players in England with Irish heritage

The IRFU have always targeted exiles, odd to see so many in one team.

Conspicuous wrote:

nardol wrote:

irishrugbyua wrote:IRELAND UNDER-18 CLUBS & SCHOOLS Team & Replacements (v England Under-18 Counties, Underage International Match, HMS Temeraire, Portsmouth, Wednesday, April 4, kick-off 2pm):

15. Oran McNulty (Bath Academy/Millfield/IQ Rugby)
14. Tom Bacon (Henley College/Wasps/IQ Rugby)
13. Hayden Hyde (Harlequins Academy/Cranleigh School/IQ Rugby)
12. Saul O'Carroll (Buccaneers/Garbally College)
11. Shane Jennings (Ballinasloe/Garbally College)
10. Michael Cooke (Sedbergh School/IQ Rugby)
9. Charlie O'Doherty (Newcastle West/Ard Scoil na Mhuire)
1. Mark Donnelly (CBC Cork)
2. Aaron Hennessy (The Alfa Project, Scariff/Ennis)
3. Liam Winnett (Buccaneers/Marist College)
4. Eoin O'Connor (Waterpark/Gaelcholaiste Phortlairge)
5. Darragh Murray (Buccaneers/Coláiste Chíaráin)
6. Ed Brennan (Blackrock College)
7. Evan Murphy (Nenagh Ormond/Nenagh CBS) (capt)
8. Joshua Dunne (Nottingham Academy/Denstone College/IQ Rugby)

Replacements:

16. Mark Nicholson (Wicklow/Colaiste Chill Mhantain)
17. Fionn Flanagan (Bruff)
18. Paddy McAlpine (Campbell College)
19. Paddy Kelly (St. Munchin's College)
20. Chris Moore (Beechen Cliff School/IQ Rugby)
21. Shane Murphy (Skerries/St. Joseph's Rush)
22. Thomas Armstrong (Methodist College Belfast)
23. Tommy Downes (CBC Cork)

Number of English players in that squad is a bit odd.... Even if IQed.

I started reading it and thought it was the English team he posted . The IRFU must be actively targeting young players in England with Irish heritage

Kevin Maggs and Joe Lydon are employed to do just that. Before that it was former Ulster player, Mark Blair.

There appear to be a damned sight more, and a damned sight more mixed (ie between A&B schools, nr schools, clubs and exiles) u/a teams than up to recently. Obviously anyone with any sort of talent at all is being looked at seriously and several times.

Alex Wotten and Sammy Arnold are proof of the effectiveness of this increased focus on the exiles by the IRFU.

Marmion too

And Dan Touhy.

snigger

We should remember that Leinster and Munster have a cachet which is virtually unequalled in the club game in the northern hemisphere and is a real selling point when talking to these Irish qualified players from the UK. Although to be fair, such as the overwhelming strength of the Leinster academy system any Irish qualifier UK players will invariably end up in one of the other three provinces.

I am not sure the players mentioned fall into that category. There has been substantial increase only in the last 3 to 4 years in terms of finance and coaching along with the administration required to find and target Irishqualified UK-based players. Personally, I am hopeful that when London Irish return back into London, They will return to their roots and become a specifically Irish focused side. Even if they are ring fenced out of the premiership, they will provide a tremendous focus for Irish based players in the Southeast.

danthefan wrote:And Dan Touhy.

snigger

Here! No sniggering at Angry Dan, what I would give for him over Treadwell these days.

Van Rooj wrote:

Leinsterman wrote:The funny thing is that I bet Willie reckons he's representative of a "new modern Northern Ireland".

Where's that and how do you get to it from the Northern Ireland I'm in?

Apologies. Perhaps I should have said "slightly less prehistoric Northern Ireland"?

Leinsterman wrote:
Apologies. Perhaps I should have said "slightly less prehistoric Northern Ireland"?

You'd better not be suggesting them dinosaurs are real.

unseenwork wrote:Angry Dan

He is you know.

Van Rooj wrote:

Leinsterman wrote:
Apologies. Perhaps I should have said "slightly less prehistoric Northern Ireland"?

You'd better not be suggesting them dinosaurs are real.

They're just a bit long in the tooth

In other news, apparently Gilroy had been stood down from Ulster duties pending an investigation.

Leinsterman wrote:

Van Rooj wrote:

Leinsterman wrote:
Apologies. Perhaps I should have said "slightly less prehistoric Northern Ireland"?

You'd better not be suggesting them dinosaurs are real.

They're just a bit long in the tooth

In other news, apparently Gilroy had been stood down from Ulster duties pending an investigation.

And what of Pat Lam's extension?