Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:09 pm
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the scar under his eye is not rugby relatedYOYO wrote:Didn’t he say on the Sky Sports after match interview that his friends call him quasimodo due to the constant war wounds to his face.Flametop wrote:How many seasons will Leavy last?
http://www.the42.ie/dan-leavy-leinster- ... 3-Apr2018/
I would not much care to punch Dan Leavy in the face I must say.Onelostbear wrote:may not be true but heard he got punched whilst in Donegal over a girl
Adam D'arcy getting dragged in by the hate mob ffs. Poor fucker probably thought being on the other side of the world might spare him. And the fact his initials dont match anyone in the group.JoeMangled wrote:on Gilroy, maybe he was just being an edgelord. Maybe he was calling the lads sluts.
This all feels a bit iffy.
The definition of social media is important too. Does whatsapp come under that broad term? I dont think the Ulster rugby establishment would revolt. The issue is as i see it, the blow ins will be less likely to renew season tickets based on whats happening on the pitch. You then look at die hards that populate that UAFC forum who may renew but claim they wont if the players aren't brought back. It would be interesting to see where renewals are sitting at the moment.Adetroy wrote:If the IRFU Have any sense they will drag out this review for all its worth. There really is a Twitter mob mentality abroad and they need to be very careful. They really are between a rock and a hard place. Come down too hard and It might look like a Dublin media fuelled response sticking it to some proud sons of Ulster, which would go down badly with the Ulster rugby establishment. On the other hand Not handing out substantial sanctions for bringing the game into disrepute despite the fact the knowledge only came out through a criminal trial, would do immense damage to rugbys brand particularly in the south. I have a feeling that we are about to see a rejigging of any future contracts with players about the use of social media no matter how private it’s use.
WhatsApp is not social media.Adetroy wrote:If the IRFU Have any sense they will drag out this review for all its worth. There really is a Twitter mob mentality abroad and they need to be very careful. They really are between a rock and a hard place. Come down too hard and It might look like a Dublin media fuelled response sticking it to some proud sons of Ulster, which would go down badly with the Ulster rugby establishment. On the other hand Not handing out substantial sanctions for bringing the game into disrepute despite the fact the knowledge only came out through a criminal trial, would do immense damage to rugbys brand particularly in the south. I have a feeling that we are about to see a rejigging of any future contracts with players about the use of social media no matter how private it’s use.
Leinsterman wrote:
In other news, apparently Gilroy had been stood down from Ulster duties pending an investigation.
There is a hell of a difference between the standards required in a criminal trial and the expectations for employees and employers. If we applied the standards of criminal justice to the workplace no one will ever get sacked for incompetence or disreputable behaviour. The harsh reality is, the bar is much lower when it comes to employee law and that is how it should be, Especially now that we live in a world in which image rights are bought and paid for.earl the beaver wrote:WhatsApp is not social media.Adetroy wrote:If the IRFU Have any sense they will drag out this review for all its worth. There really is a Twitter mob mentality abroad and they need to be very careful. They really are between a rock and a hard place. Come down too hard and It might look like a Dublin media fuelled response sticking it to some proud sons of Ulster, which would go down badly with the Ulster rugby establishment. On the other hand Not handing out substantial sanctions for bringing the game into disrepute despite the fact the knowledge only came out through a criminal trial, would do immense damage to rugbys brand particularly in the south. I have a feeling that we are about to see a rejigging of any future contracts with players about the use of social media no matter how private it’s use.
And how long exactly should they drag it out? Jackson and Olding have been found unanimously not guilty in a court of law where there is a presumption of innocence.
They have already missed nearly a year of rugby and there is a very real chance that without them Ulster will miss out on the Heineken Cup for the first time in history. Add inthe suspension of Gilroy? They'd alienate a huge fan base.
Well no, employment law is very stringent. Look at the link above.Adetroy wrote:There is a hell of a difference between the standards required in a criminal trial and the expectations for employees and employers. If we applied the standards of criminal justice to the workplace no one will ever get sacked for incompetence or disreputable behaviour. The harsh reality is, the bar is much lower when it comes to employee law and that is how it should be, Especially now that we live in a world in which image rights are bought and paid for.earl the beaver wrote:WhatsApp is not social media.Adetroy wrote:If the IRFU Have any sense they will drag out this review for all its worth. There really is a Twitter mob mentality abroad and they need to be very careful. They really are between a rock and a hard place. Come down too hard and It might look like a Dublin media fuelled response sticking it to some proud sons of Ulster, which would go down badly with the Ulster rugby establishment. On the other hand Not handing out substantial sanctions for bringing the game into disrepute despite the fact the knowledge only came out through a criminal trial, would do immense damage to rugbys brand particularly in the south. I have a feeling that we are about to see a rejigging of any future contracts with players about the use of social media no matter how private it’s use.
And how long exactly should they drag it out? Jackson and Olding have been found unanimously not guilty in a court of law where there is a presumption of innocence.
They have already missed nearly a year of rugby and there is a very real chance that without them Ulster will miss out on the Heineken Cup for the first time in history. Add inthe suspension of Gilroy? They'd alienate a huge fan base.
I did not suggest that employment law was not very stringent merely that the standards between criminal justice and employment law are substantially different. Above all else there is no presumption of innocence.earl the beaver wrote:Well no, employment law is very stringent. Look at the link above.Adetroy wrote:There is a hell of a difference between the standards required in a criminal trial and the expectations for employees and employers. If we applied the standards of criminal justice to the workplace no one will ever get sacked for incompetence or disreputable behaviour. The harsh reality is, the bar is much lower when it comes to employee law and that is how it should be, Especially now that we live in a world in which image rights are bought and paid for.earl the beaver wrote:WhatsApp is not social media.Adetroy wrote:If the IRFU Have any sense they will drag out this review for all its worth. There really is a Twitter mob mentality abroad and they need to be very careful. They really are between a rock and a hard place. Come down too hard and It might look like a Dublin media fuelled response sticking it to some proud sons of Ulster, which would go down badly with the Ulster rugby establishment. On the other hand Not handing out substantial sanctions for bringing the game into disrepute despite the fact the knowledge only came out through a criminal trial, would do immense damage to rugbys brand particularly in the south. I have a feeling that we are about to see a rejigging of any future contracts with players about the use of social media no matter how private it’s use.
And how long exactly should they drag it out? Jackson and Olding have been found unanimously not guilty in a court of law where there is a presumption of innocence.
They have already missed nearly a year of rugby and there is a very real chance that without them Ulster will miss out on the Heineken Cup for the first time in history. Add inthe suspension of Gilroy? They'd alienate a huge fan base.
It is a trial that should never have made court once the witness wasn't backing the prosecution.Adetroy wrote:I did not suggest that employment law was not very stringent merely that the standards between criminal justice and employment law are substantially different. Above all else there is no presumption of innocence.earl the beaver wrote:Well no, employment law is very stringent. Look at the link above.Adetroy wrote:There is a hell of a difference between the standards required in a criminal trial and the expectations for employees and employers. If we applied the standards of criminal justice to the workplace no one will ever get sacked for incompetence or disreputable behaviour. The harsh reality is, the bar is much lower when it comes to employee law and that is how it should be, Especially now that we live in a world in which image rights are bought and paid for.earl the beaver wrote:WhatsApp is not social media.Adetroy wrote:If the IRFU Have any sense they will drag out this review for all its worth. There really is a Twitter mob mentality abroad and they need to be very careful. They really are between a rock and a hard place. Come down too hard and It might look like a Dublin media fuelled response sticking it to some proud sons of Ulster, which would go down badly with the Ulster rugby establishment. On the other hand Not handing out substantial sanctions for bringing the game into disrepute despite the fact the knowledge only came out through a criminal trial, would do immense damage to rugbys brand particularly in the south. I have a feeling that we are about to see a rejigging of any future contracts with players about the use of social media no matter how private it’s use.
And how long exactly should they drag it out? Jackson and Olding have been found unanimously not guilty in a court of law where there is a presumption of innocence.
They have already missed nearly a year of rugby and there is a very real chance that without them Ulster will miss out on the Heineken Cup for the first time in history. Add inthe suspension of Gilroy? They'd alienate a huge fan base.
Good and proper shiner now.Onelostbear wrote:the scar under his eye is not rugby relatedYOYO wrote:Didn’t he say on the Sky Sports after match interview that his friends call him quasimodo due to the constant war wounds to his face.Flametop wrote:How many seasons will Leavy last?
http://www.the42.ie/dan-leavy-leinster- ... 3-Apr2018/
Wasn't expecting that at all. 4 or 5 Ulster boys starting as well.unseenwork wrote:Oh wow, the u19s smashed France 46-17. Azur Allison scored two tries.
http://www.irishrugby.ie/rugby/fixtures ... /41750.php
Good luck to them. A bunch of protestors, mostly from Belfast west and Dublin walking into East/South Belfast waving their shite.Van Rooj wrote:There's going to be a protest at Ravenhill on the thirteenth apparently.
Be nice to them fellas. As nice as you can be.
Extend them every courtesy because we love them.
IRFU brought this on themselves, he shouldn't have been in the squad yesterday and it wouldn't need to have been announced today.JoeMangled wrote:Gilroy story running as a front page article on the Irish Times, Independent and Breaking News.
Brilliant.
Bit more trade on the Ormeau hopefully!Willie Falloon wrote:Good luck to them. A bunch of protestors, mostly from Belfast west and Dublin walking into East/South Belfast waving their shite.Van Rooj wrote:There's going to be a protest at Ravenhill on the thirteenth apparently.
Be nice to them fellas. As nice as you can be.
Extend them every courtesy because we love them.
Brave people indeed, someone tell them not to bring tricolours with #IBeleiveHer on it.
Internet hardman alert. Lets face it willie one of our angry southern bull dykes would kick the living snot out of youWillie Falloon wrote:Good luck to them. A bunch of protestors, mostly from Belfast west and Dublin walking into East/South Belfast waving their shite.Van Rooj wrote:There's going to be a protest at Ravenhill on the thirteenth apparently.
Be nice to them fellas. As nice as you can be.
Extend them every courtesy because we love them.
Brave people indeed, someone tell them not to bring tricolours with #IBeleiveHer on it.
I can tell you now, if they are standing in front of me on the footpath, shouting their dung, invading my space and waving a tricolour, they will be heading, headfirst into the nearest hedge.
Again though, he has a point. If they show up at the main (Mt. Merrion) gate and don't have their local credentials in order, they're quite likely to get f**ked over. Hard.HighKingLeinster wrote: Internet hardman alert. Lets face it willie one of our angry southern bull dykes would kick the living snot out of you
I'm not trying to be an internet hardman.Van Rooj wrote:Again though, he has a point. If they show up at the main (Mt. Merrion) gate and don't have their local credentials in order, they're quite likely to get f**ked over. Hard.HighKingLeinster wrote: Internet hardman alert. Lets face it willie one of our angry southern bull dykes would kick the living snot out of you
People get their cars totalled for parking there... What do you think is going to happen to left leaning protest groups?
Not supporting the position, just pointing out where Ravenhill is.
Which part?DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:Willie i think thats a load of absolute ballix
I was thinking more the 'hey you guys' character from the GooniesYOYO wrote:Didn’t he say on the Sky Sports after match interview that his friends call him quasimodo due to the constant war wounds to his face.Flametop wrote:How many seasons will Leavy last?
http://www.the42.ie/dan-leavy-leinster- ... 3-Apr2018/
Cregagh's near gentrified these days I tell you.DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:Willie i think thats a load of absolute ballix
Calm your jets young WilliamWillie Falloon wrote:Which part?DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:Willie i think thats a load of absolute ballix
There are a bunch of wee bastids in that estate.
Wonder how many turn up, looking at twitter there now, the #suemepaddy and #IbelieveHer nonsense seems to have died down fairly quickly, still the odd one, but nothing like last Thursday/Friday.Winnie wrote:Calm your jets young WilliamWillie Falloon wrote:Which part?DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:Willie i think thats a load of absolute ballix
There are a bunch of wee bastids in that estate.
All Ulster fans should get a new team shirt with Jackson 69 printed on it
Be a lover not a fighter
If its raining there will be bugger all thereWillie Falloon wrote:Wonder how many turn up, looking at twitter there now, the #suemepaddy and #IbelieveHer nonsense seems to have died down fairly quickly, still the odd one, but nothing like last Thursday/Friday.Winnie wrote:Calm your jets young WilliamWillie Falloon wrote:Which part?DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:Willie i think thats a load of absolute ballix
There are a bunch of wee bastids in that estate.
All Ulster fans should get a new team shirt with Jackson 69 printed on it
Be a lover not a fighter
It's a week tomorrow since the verdict was read out. Already!!!
If you're discussing work via a certain messaging app (which Gilroy, Olding and Jackson may have done), your employer is entitled to any conversations or something like that. There was an EU ruling on it a few years ago I believe.earl the beaver wrote: How far can they go? Can they demand access to every player's text, WhatsApp and Facebook messenger? Emails? Confidential discussions with agents?