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There has to be changes in the pack although I wouldn’t start Tracy unless he was the only hooker available. I’d go withZuLu wrote:Can't see that many changes in the pack myself, a whole new front row ain't happening for starters
Cue tearsirishrugbyua wrote:Breaking: Girvan Dempsey to depart #LeinsterRugby to join the @bathrugby coaching team
Any chance we could get a French ref for this? Really hope it's not Nigel or the other Welsh chap. Possibly Mitrea?Conspicuous wrote:There has to be changes in the pack although I wouldn’t start Tracy unless he was the only hooker available. I’d go withZuLu wrote:Can't see that many changes in the pack myself, a whole new front row ain't happening for starters
McGrath
Cronin
Porter
Ryan
Fardy
Ruddock
Leavy
Conan
Healy
Tracy
Furlong
Toner
Murphy
given lancaster is entrenched as attacks coach, it looked inevitable he'd move on if he wanted to expand his responsibilities.Nolanator wrote:
I suppose it's better for him to develop as a coach.
I'd heard Dempsey was leaving back in April but that he didn't want to leave.irishrugbyua wrote:given lancaster is entrenched as attacks coach, it looked inevitable he'd move on if he wanted to expand his responsibilities.Nolanator wrote:
I suppose it's better for him to develop as a coach.
WTF. That's a bolt from the blue. Sad to see him go? Did he perhaps feel his role was diminished with Lancaster? Could Nacewa replace him? Kind of the only man worthy really!irishrugbyua wrote:Breaking: Girvan Dempsey to depart #LeinsterRugby to join the @bathrugby coaching team
Nacewa is going back to NZ.hermie wrote:WTF. That's a bolt from the blue. Sad to see him go? Did he perhaps feel his role was diminished with Lancaster? Could Nacewa replace him? Kind of the only man worthy really!irishrugbyua wrote:Breaking: Girvan Dempsey to depart #LeinsterRugby to join the @bathrugby coaching team
Nacewa is going home isn’t hehermie wrote:WTF. That's a bolt from the blue. Sad to see him go? Did he perhaps feel his role was diminished with Lancaster? Could Nacewa replace him? Kind of the only man worthy really!irishrugbyua wrote:Breaking: Girvan Dempsey to depart #LeinsterRugby to join the @bathrugby coaching team
not sure if serious or some carbery related joke.boringperson12 wrote:I'd heard Dempsey was leaving back in April but that he didn't want to leave.irishrugbyua wrote:given lancaster is entrenched as attacks coach, it looked inevitable he'd move on if he wanted to expand his responsibilities.Nolanator wrote:
I suppose it's better for him to develop as a coach.
Makes sense to bench one of the locks so that they can replace one of the others but actually Fardy might miss out completely.ZuLu wrote:Are the people benching Toner and Furlong the same ones who wanted half our Test team not going to Australia? They can do 50-55 minutes, IMO.
No, just what I was told. Manoeuvred out.boringperson12 wrote:I'd heard Dempsey was leaving back in April but that he didn't want to leave.irishrugbyua wrote:given lancaster is entrenched as attacks coach, it looked inevitable he'd move on if he wanted to expand his responsibilities.Nolanator wrote:
I suppose it's better for him to develop as a coach.
Actually yeah I think that is his plan. I really hope it's not a case of them deciding not to replace him. Irish coaches have a poor record of having a bit of success and then hoping to absorb the loss of an outgoing coach which inevitably leads to stagnation. EOS and Kidinme both fell into that trap. And a similar situation was almost foisted upon Leo but he bravely fought against it with appointments of first Henry and subsequently Lancaster.Duff Paddy wrote:Nacewa is going home isn’t hehermie wrote:WTF. That's a bolt from the blue. Sad to see him go? Did he perhaps feel his role was diminished with Lancaster? Could Nacewa replace him? Kind of the only man worthy really!irishrugbyua wrote:Breaking: Girvan Dempsey to depart #LeinsterRugby to join the @bathrugby coaching team
Henry was hardly an appointment. McQuilkin was always going to be replaced, he was too senior a coach. Dempsey's role was reduced as a result though.hermie wrote:Actually yeah I think that is his plan. I really hope it's not a case of them deciding not to replace him. Irish coaches have a poor record of having a bit of success and then hoping to absorb the loss of an outgoing coach which inevitably leads to stagnation. EOS and Kidinme both fell into that trap. And a similar situation was almost foisted upon Leo but he bravely fought against it with appointments of first Henry and subsequently Lancaster.Duff Paddy wrote:Nacewa is going home isn’t hehermie wrote:WTF. That's a bolt from the blue. Sad to see him go? Did he perhaps feel his role was diminished with Lancaster? Could Nacewa replace him? Kind of the only man worthy really!irishrugbyua wrote:Breaking: Girvan Dempsey to depart #LeinsterRugby to join the @bathrugby coaching team
Was actually just about to say we could do worse than re-hiring McQuilkin and allow Stu to focus on other areas.CM11 wrote:Henry was hardly an appointment. McQuilkin was always going to be replaced, he was too senior a coach. Dempsey's role was reduced as a result though.hermie wrote:Actually yeah I think that is his plan. I really hope it's not a case of them deciding not to replace him. Irish coaches have a poor record of having a bit of success and then hoping to absorb the loss of an outgoing coach which inevitably leads to stagnation. EOS and Kidinme both fell into that trap. And a similar situation was almost foisted upon Leo but he bravely fought against it with appointments of first Henry and subsequently Lancaster.Duff Paddy wrote:Nacewa is going home isn’t hehermie wrote:WTF. That's a bolt from the blue. Sad to see him go? Did he perhaps feel his role was diminished with Lancaster? Could Nacewa replace him? Kind of the only man worthy really!irishrugbyua wrote:Breaking: Girvan Dempsey to depart #LeinsterRugby to join the @bathrugby coaching team
While you can't fault our defence much, it has been looser since McQuilkin. Probably need someone to come in with that as their main strength.
No idea if his situation has changed. I think he came in to help out Cullen in time of need. Might not be as interested playing second fiddle to Lancaster, if he's even available.hermie wrote: Was actually just about to say we could do worse than re-hiring McQuilkin and allow Stu to focus on other areas.
Would have been great, though we've Peel I'm not sure how long he'll last.rfurlong wrote:girve to connacht or ulster as backs coach would have made more sense?
He went back because his Dad was sick, right? If that situation has changed he might take the job. He's only ever been a defence coach. Never got a whiff of ambition off him beyond that, although I could be mistaken.CM11 wrote:No idea if his situation has changed. I think he came in to help out Cullen in time of need. Might not be as interested playing second fiddle to Lancaster, if he's even available.hermie wrote: Was actually just about to say we could do worse than re-hiring McQuilkin and allow Stu to focus on other areas.
interesting..boringperson12 wrote:No, just what I was told. Manoeuvred out.boringperson12 wrote:I'd heard Dempsey was leaving back in April but that he didn't want to leave.irishrugbyua wrote:given lancaster is entrenched as attacks coach, it looked inevitable he'd move on if he wanted to expand his responsibilities.Nolanator wrote:
I suppose it's better for him to develop as a coach.
Wasn't aware which family member it was and no idea what's happened there.hermie wrote:He went back because his Dad was sick, right? If that situation has changed he might take the job. He's only ever been a defence coach. Never got a whiff of ambition off him beyond that, although I could be mistaken.CM11 wrote:No idea if his situation has changed. I think he came in to help out Cullen in time of need. Might not be as interested playing second fiddle to Lancaster, if he's even available.hermie wrote: Was actually just about to say we could do worse than re-hiring McQuilkin and allow Stu to focus on other areas.
If the money's right it might not make a difference. Irish rugby should be awash at the moment but Nucifora et al would be reluctant to have Leinster go after an overseas replacement for Nacewa. The least they can do is make sure the Leinster backroom is solid as a rock.CM11 wrote:Wasn't aware which family member it was and no idea what's happened there.hermie wrote:He went back because his Dad was sick, right? If that situation has changed he might take the job. He's only ever been a defence coach. Never got a whiff of ambition off him beyond that, although I could be mistaken.CM11 wrote:No idea if his situation has changed. I think he came in to help out Cullen in time of need. Might not be as interested playing second fiddle to Lancaster, if he's even available.hermie wrote: Was actually just about to say we could do worse than re-hiring McQuilkin and allow Stu to focus on other areas.
You are correct, I believe, that he's only been a defence coach but with Cheika and Cullen, he was a prominent senior assistant. His profile would be lower if he was to return, imo.
They'd be clapping out a bunch of lads who lost to Ealing Trailfinders judging by the comments on here.Mullet 2 wrote:Are Munster providing a Guard of Honour this Saturday?
You would hope they have sufficient manners.
Boxcar Ira wrote:They'd be clapping out a bunch of lads who lost to Ealing Trailfinders judging by the comments on here.Mullet 2 wrote:Are Munster providing a Guard of Honour this Saturday?
You would hope they have sufficient manners.
Leinster won 2 out of 3 trophies on Saturday.Mullet 2 wrote:Boxcar Ira wrote:They'd be clapping out a bunch of lads who lost to Ealing Trailfinders judging by the comments on here.Mullet 2 wrote:Are Munster providing a Guard of Honour this Saturday?
You would hope they have sufficient manners.
Munster can only dream of that type of success.
Leinster Juniors?Liathroidigloine wrote:Leinster won 2 out of 3 trophies on Saturday.Mullet 2 wrote:Boxcar Ira wrote:They'd be clapping out a bunch of lads who lost to Ealing Trailfinders judging by the comments on here.Mullet 2 wrote:Are Munster providing a Guard of Honour this Saturday?
You would hope they have sufficient manners.
Munster can only dream of that type of success.
Yep, beat Ulster up in Coleraine.boringperson12 wrote:Leinster Juniors?Liathroidigloine wrote:Leinster won 2 out of 3 trophies on Saturday.Mullet 2 wrote:Boxcar Ira wrote:They'd be clapping out a bunch of lads who lost to Ealing Trailfinders judging by the comments on here.Mullet 2 wrote:Are Munster providing a Guard of Honour this Saturday?
You would hope they have sufficient manners.
Munster can only dream of that type of success.
Boxcar Ira wrote:They'd be clapping out a bunch of lads who lost to Ealing Trailfinders judging by the comments on here.Mullet 2 wrote:Are Munster providing a Guard of Honour this Saturday?
You would hope they have sufficient manners.
If Noel Reid plays then times are bleak. A double for Leinster would be nice but I think last weekend took too much of a tollZuLu wrote:Boxcar Ira wrote:They'd be clapping out a bunch of lads who lost to Ealing Trailfinders judging by the comments on here.Mullet 2 wrote:Are Munster providing a Guard of Honour this Saturday?
You would hope they have sufficient manners.
I'm very uneasy about it all. Our squad is deep but it's not like our second string would get out of the CC pool or anything